Politics means thoughts on abortion, police brutality, gun laws, voting rights and suppression or if they even believe there is a suppression, women’s rights, medical care, war etc. Those are enormous issues. You HAVE to talk about this and me ,personally , there’s no way it can work if you can’t agree on, at least, most of it. But again, that’s just me 🤷🏾♀️
SAli you said “ black is in “ like it’s damn fashion trend... she is literally from an urban area.... San Jose which had Latinos and Blacks when she was growing up... and she’s always been attracted to black men... she was dating black men before she even got with Freddy ... her date to HS prom ( previous photo shown on the show) was black... her first childhood crush/“boyfriend” ( a story told on the show) was black... she knew her marriage with Freddy was not gonna work or last but she forced herself to try and make it through... if anything I feel like her parents... mostly her mother influenced her to marry white and rich even tho she didn’t really want to be married in general to be begin with plus that’s not her type... the topic we are talking about TODAY is has to do with POLITICS and having DIFFERENT VIEWS not what race your partner is
@- facts! Jeannie in the past has already had Non-White boyfriends💀 she just so happened to see something in Freddy and they tried to make it work, but it didn’t 🤷🏽♀️it’s normal to have failed relationships. All that matter now is that she’s happy with her current relationship and is getting married👏🏼
You're right. Republicans are like democrats, the vast majority of them are both bought and paid for just like the media. Trump can't be bought and donates his President pay check every quarter.
@@ashleyhohmannmeldrum6947 So when he rose the GDP and brought the unemployment to record lows, that was to get out of paying his taxes too? Lets be honest, you can't even comprehend the tax argument they're trying to make against him. Also, Biden used the same tax loophole. But you won't say anything about that, will you? "Joe Biden Used Tax-Code Loophole Obama Tried to Plug" www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-used-tax-code-loophole-obama-tried-to-plug-11562779300
I can’t befriend/date anyone who throws jabs at a person based on who they vote for. Not everyone identifies with a party; some just vote on who they think will do better than the other.
- just that you assumed trump is the one she means, shows, you exactly know what she means lol!!! It’s not about abortion, it’s health care, climate change, trans right, he condemns everything except for white supremacy !!! And i can give you examples for every single topic
My concern is how/why are dating apps monitoring people conversations that’s violation of privacy... and have the audacity to publish that 43% increase
Problematic Politics -------------- Honestly I think there’s something about having opposing views that doesn’t need to be viewed as negative as people make it seem... because I feel that people have this idea that if you’re on one side or the other , you get deemed as the enemy... and I think it’s fine to have differences on some thing when it comes to politics but when you can’t agree on ONE SINGLE THING... even something that you would think this person would be open to hearing and understanding ( but turns out they aren’t so receptive) then that’s where things go wrong Children Making Change --------------- I think a lot of people have found ways to be apart of this movement whether it’s been protesting... donating back to black communities , fasting , posting their support... I think anyway to show that ur on the side of right is important... anyway to spread that message and the belief that Black Lives Matter is great! Children are the future and if you can instill in them to be advocates at a young age then you’re doing something right !
If someone puts their political party or ideology on their dating profile that clearly means it’s very important to them imo, and they probably aren’t interested in dating someone who’s on the opposite side. I think the same is true for religion, if someone puts that they’re atheist on their profile I feel they are probably very strong in their opinion on that and have no problem letting others know.
I feel like Garcell is a great addition to the real, I think her personality really gels with the other girls, more then Amanda and with each epidsode I see her confidence growing ☺️ I still miss Tamera though, not gonna lie!!
Children are way smarter than we were in the 80’ & 90’s. They know what’s going on, we need to create a way for children to be apart of movements they believe in.
Whatever your cause is BLM, abortion, whatever go volunteer with those organizations and actually engage in supporting communities. If you're anti abortion go volunteer to foster , or be a casa worker and learn what the lives of these displaced children look like and support them. If your pro BLM then go volunteer in a black community. Give your time to the cause besides the usual tweet and maybe protest. It's insulting to see how people think bashing the other side , retweeting or even protesting is all there is to their cause. And people have to learn how to discuss (not argue) opposing views because at this point the way they're coming at each other is two sides of the same coin. We have to live with these opposing citizens so we need to learn how to talk to each other.
Possibly an unpopular opinion and maybe the elephant in the room but I feel topics and conversations like this, that center politics and it being an election year, contributed to Tamera wanting to leave the show. I’m not saying it’s the only reason, but I think she peeped game and thought, it’s going to be heavy political discussions on top of everything else and she probably didn’t wanna go through what she did before with her and her husband. Particularly the “rumors” about him supporting 45 and whether or not she also voted for 45. Just something I’ve been thinking about.
It was hard for her to voice her views because she would constantly get judged. So, I don’t blame her. Do things that will give you peace, and not have you being judged everyday because you’re not saying what people think you should be saying.
I loved Garcells on RHOBH but wanted to see her more. I loved her backbone her integrity the way she stands up for her beliefs and her confidence in her viewpoints and refreshing honesty. Thank you guys for bringing her on the show! I appreciate her maturity SOOO much!
Everything is political, whether you want it to be or not. Your political views are a result of your values, morals, goals, and outlook on the world. Do what you want, but I have never heard anyone encourage people to date someones whose values and morals are not aligned or in opposition.
Yes it's important to discuss these things in a relationship. I am my 20s and want to make sure I know what I am getting myself into. I want to know about your political views, religion, culture and family structure before I get in too deep 💯 even in a friendship it wouldn't go far if we aren't on the same views.
I was married to someone for 20 years who had opposing political views and we are now divorced. It was great for the first 10 years. He’s a republican and I’m a democrat. Every political year we would get into heated conversation. Then when trump was running that was the end for us. It’s wasn’t our normal healthy political arguments. It was bad. We wouldn’t talk to each other for weeks because he was so committed to trump. It was pathetic. I’d rather date someone with the same political views I have.
So you don’t care if you don’t post on social media? Some people actually think that certain issues such as politics are private, so they might not wanna share it with everybody🤷🏻♀️
Exactly, and there are many other ways to support causes you believe in without posting about it on social media, some of which may be more effective (eg. donating money, protesting, etc.)
I have a friend since high school and in most things we dont agree on....but still are friends. It works, it just depends how you handle opinions of others. So when it comes to friendship it shouldnt matter if you have some oposing views in life. Ok I guess dating is different.
Dating a politics mix if you both agree😂🤣I’m not sensitive about politics, or race and all that Bc I’ve always known that people are who and what they are and I take that from no one. I talk politics for fun Bc I can’t even take any of them seriously
Loni; you are awesome. Maturity is being able to hear opposing views and still be able to love and respect the person. But what would you do if your kids, disagreed with your political views?
I disagree with my parents views regarding religion.... they have to accept it...which is a bit difficult... but well I am still not kicked out the house 😅 Kids should be allowed to form their own opinions and if it happens that they are different from the parents well they have to accept it and thats it. You cant force your kids to believe in the same things.
@@Niki91-HR Hello Niki91-HR, I hear you, but technically just like you don't have to accept their beliefs; they don't have to accept yours either... Freedom is a two way street, "but" if you remain respectful to your parents, you should be good. And, if you haven't been kicked out, it's because of their love for you. Also, disagreements "shouldn't" led to bad relationships. However, the leadership in the U.S. is showing a bad example of this. Not to get too spiritual, but the Bible teaches us not to believe anyone at face value; except God. So, when I'm talking to people I maintain this standard. But in addition to this, the Bible also teaches us to "love our enemies." So in this regard, I can also listen to their beliefs to better understand them as a person. That said, I like talking to "respectful" people who disagree with or have a different perspective than me and I've learned something interesting from doing so... Mainly, that most people can't "totally disagree" with others; even about religion. And that "universal truths" often cross the lines of public laws, religion, non-religious people and even our own conscience. A long story short; peace between opposing forces can only be attained when people or groups of people "focus on what they have in common, instead of their differences." Likewise, in families, the main commonality should be love; and that's one of the best reasons to maintain good relationships with others. Hope this makes sense and I wish you well in all things.
I'm finding it hard to be friends with my Republican friends. I'm finding I've lost respect for them because they still support Trump even with everything he says. It makes me question their core values.
I’m sorry this is your experience. It’s not easy to feel like people aren’t who you thought they were. However, I don’t question my Biden supporter friends despite him giving a eulogy at Robert Byrd, a klansmans funeral, saying poor kids are just as bright as white kids, thinking black people are a monolith and if you don’t know who you’re gonna vote for, you AINT black, saying he could stay hunkered in his basement in the pandemic because some black woman was stocking shelves, saying he doesn’t want his children to grow up in a racial jungle in regards to segregation. I COULD GO ON. The difference between Trump and Biden is if Trump says something stupid (AND HE DOES), you’ll hear about it from every media outlet for days, weeks, months, years. When Biden creepily can’t stop touching kids (and it’s on video so sorry bout it) and saying horrendous blunders, the media turns the other way and buries it. Supporters of each of them are no different. The media has just trained us to view one in a certain light. The fact is both of them have done and said awful things. People are voting for policies that they genuinely think will be best for their future children’s generation. Most of us want the same things, but how we get there looks very different. This helps me not view either of their supporters in a harsh light. People are doing the best they can. I think it’s more shameful that the third party candidate, a woman with a psychology degree and masters in business admin is treated like she doesn’t exist to the media. America isn’t going to get better as long as we allow the media to do our thinking for us.
Linda Why would a racist permanently fund HBCUs? The term is being used too lightly and people are going to lose their ability to see true racism and take claims seriously when the word is thrown in place of a coherent argument.
@@saraihopeful Racist- a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another. "the comments have led to her being called a racist". Just because he does something that benefit blacks doesn't mean he isn't a racist. That was a political move. That's like saying I have a black friend or a black family member to prove you are not a racist.
Let’s all be honest here this show is getting more political is one of the reason Tamera left. There’s no way she would be vocal in the conversations they are having. Say what you want to say about Jeannie and Adrienne but they’ve been more vocal on IG and social media while Tamera just stayed silence for months on BLM it’s pathetic she was getting paid twice their salary with how little she actually contributed
Let’s say tamera is a republican what’s wrong with that? We live in America and have free will of choice. Plus she seems like a warm kind person. 🤷🏾♀️
i think it depends how differently we think. If they believe in private healthcare and lower taxes then i can still be friends with them / date them but when it comes to social justice issues (racism sexism islamaphobia homophobia transphobia xenophobia etc....) i dotn think theres even a slight chance ot have a relationship witht hem
Trump voter and The Real fan here. I would absolutely be in a relationship with someone who voted Hillary or Biden. Politics is politics. It does not determine who you are as a friend, a companion, or a family member. It does not determine how caring you will be or how good of a person you are. I would absolutely be friends with people who vote differently than me as well. The more we surround ourselves with people who think differently than us, the more understanding we are of different perspective and why people believe what we believe. People are so content living in echo chambers that they literally think the other size is demonic for thinking differently. It's ridiculous. I can't be the only person who thinks this...
I don’t post or talk about politics but I care about what happens but I don’t I don’t post about it because that’s how arguments start and even if you share something funny about a certain situation somebody’s going to get butt hurt and attack you I still care about what happens to this country but I’m not willing to go as far as to identify as this party or that party and stay up-to-date with everything that’s going on because I don’t need that stress in my life and I don’t need the hate that I would get from other people. I’m neither Republican or Democrat or any of those parties I don’t like politics and to be honest all it does is it creates arguments between people and I’m not about that
people used to take their kids to KKK rallies, i see no issues with wanting your child (i personally think 10 & up) to be on the right side of history and being apart of a peaceful protest
I will say that one of the good parts of being gay is that you don't encounter this very much. I mean, there are some conservative gay people out there but they are rare. There can be other issues, and among the Democratic party there can be some disagreement on certain issues, but in terms of politics it's rare for there to be that big of a difference in politics that it's a deal breaker, and I'm thankful for that.
I honestly feel like Garcelle is too good for this show. When I mean good, I mean her career is way too advance for her to be sitting with these women. She needs to be on The View.
This is a U.S.A related topic. I am European and we very rarely talk about politics when dating, let alone with friends...Also, it is much less binary here, its not right or left or black and white, if you know what I mean.
Myronn Coleman really? Because the first episodes had a perfect white background- I’m not trying to cause controversy I’m simply asking from a interior design perspective
Celia E. I honestly think it’s a design cuz if u look at the way it’s subtly like a flowy orange line instead of a chipped orange print mess lol it’s like a pattern... she might be trying to do something different with her wall tbh
You can tell Adrienne is making sure her posture is poppin' and she looks good. Idk if I should be laughing cause its funny or upset cause she looks like she has no clue whats being said or whats going on lol
I'm sorry but I dont agree with garcell on this one. Kids should not be going to these protest. And on the part about the little Child with there fist up. Considering that a black women's child lost her life from a black man who shot up her car and she wasn't even in the protest,she was trying to get home, and her daughter is dead from a BLM protester? Hell no children should not be out there
Garcelle really said that she took her 2 young sons to a women's march. And we wonder why these cats grow up to act so emotional and feminine? A million man march? Yes. A woman's march. No.
In my opinion, no one should be protesting during a global pandemic. Virtual protests, such as boycotting amazon and online streaming services would greater effect our consumer driven economy which would have a measurable impact that could better promote material changes on the ground for victims of socio-economic and racial injustice as well as promote public health and safety. Especially under these circumstances, children should not be protesting in volatile situations. They can learn from a distance. Children have been victims of rubber bullet shots and tear gas. Not every city is burning with rage and in those areas it is safe. However, subjecting your child to danger is in poor form for obvious reasons. Furthermore, it impacts their view of protests to introduce them to this which are poorly led and not mission driven. If anyone cares to argue my past statement about them not being mission driven, trust me, I’m informed and we can have that conversation. I welcome it and look forward to comparing these protests to more effective ones that have been mission driven.
Yeah totally, I used to really enjoy watching this show because it was about fun topics about life, relationships, work, friends, family, fashion, and celebrity news. But now I feel like a lot of the topics are about or related to politics and very hard hitting social issues that both have strong opposite views from various people. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that politics and social issues are not important and that they should ignore it all together (I don’t mind if they talk about it from time to time) but too much of girl chat has been focused on the two, when before I used to come to the show to have a break from all that 😕
I personally think that's just logic i mean on minor things like maybe a few reforms on educations, the amount that should be given out to low paid workers etc ... i mean i don't think it's doomed to fail if y'all both mature and open but important things like abortions gay rights, anything concernant the human body right (woman and or male) how is it possible for you to not agree cause the problem if something in that situation happens then the mess that will happen would be very predictable boo boo. Especially in this day and age where you can now easy get involved and go on a protest, you should have your SO support in this moment
I honestly think kids going to protests isn't as great as it is made to seem. Just the thought of a child fighting for their rights doesn't sit well with me. That's how a lot of kids are forced to grow up too soon and have little to no childhood. A child should only focus on whatever most children focus on.
3:53 I don’t personally agree with this. I’m a hardcore democrat like garcelle but I don’t go on social media. I think the only one I have that I frequent is Reddit.
If we don't have the same political views, we can't be in a relationship or date. Friends, i don't care your political views. However, if you support agendas based on racism, sexism, etc, WE CAN NOT BE FRIENDS. This goes for religion too
They're are so many people out there that see no wrong in Trump. Whatever he does that's harsh or wrong, theirs always an excuse for it. Its ok to be republican. But to act and think the guy is a monarch, is ignorant and sheer stupidity. I dont understand how people can be so blind.
Jeannie is my girl, and I get there is still a lot of sexism out there. But as a woman, I can't get on the feminist talking points that American women are routinely shortchanged and don't have equal rights in this country. I wish feminists would stick with reproductive rights and not talk like they can't go to school, work any job, drive, vote, etc.
Egalitarianism os basically an "all lives matter" movment. Egalitarianism is just invalidating the struggles of women by saying that "men struggle too". Because want it or not the people affected by sexism are not men, they are women. Don't get me wrong men do struggle. However their struggle are not related to institutionalise sexism that women have to fight still these days. Which is why feminism is the appropriate word for equal rights, because women are the one deprive from it.
@@MarieT.-gy6kg You know how many males-older or younger are sexualy violated by another male.. Or female person and they won't say anything because "society" still thinks that no one can sexualy molest another man or a young boy.. If that isn't sexist I don't know what is.
@@anjakemperle4036 Sexism: The belief that the members of one sex are less intelligent, able, skilfull, etc. than the members of the other sex, especially that women are less able than men. (Cambridge dictionary) The men/ young boys who are not being taken seriously when assaulted is not sexism. It's in fact the total opposite. Men/ young boys are not believed because of toxic masculinity. This patrical society is based on the concept of gender roles. These gender roles dictate women to be weak, soft and caring creatures. While men are supposed to be strong at all times, never show a sign of weakness and are "sex machines". Otherwise they are mocked, insulted ("wimp", etc) and disregarded. Because of that when men get assaulted they don't say it or are shamed for it because men are expected to be strong. So if a man get assaulted it implies he was "weak" and so not "a real man". Futhermore, another reason why people don't believe/ shame men who get assaulted is because men are also expected to be those sex craving machines. Men are expected to always want and enjoy every sexual encounter they have. So when a man says he got raped, no one will take it seriously because they will assume that he enjoyed it (which is digusting btw). Men/boys victims of sexual assault are not ignored because of sexism. But because of toxic masculinity. Men are deemed as stronger which is valorising and benefitting most men. But at the same time because of that when some men have moments of "weakness" such as being assaulted, they get slapped in the face with the "you're a man, you should be strong" letting them alone in their suffering. That's why it's called toxic masculinity because although it benefits the vast majority of men, it's also harmful towards the men that don't fit into this masculinity narrative.
I made sure my bf and I were on the same page early on the relationship... then I found out he lied to me and voted for trump in 2016. I dumped his ass.
It’s almost as if Jeannies jumped on this bandwagon after being with a black man and the way she talks is as if she’s a black woman. Even the things she says in her Instagram, the first few times I’m like alright girls just having fun but coming from a black woman girl needs to stay in her lane.
SJ R I think people keep forgetting not a lot of people are into politics... Who the hell at 27 unless they are choosing to look into it and educate yourself purposefully or are trying to become an politician is thinking about politics like that... most people just know Democrat , Republican two parties... vote into whit house and then congress and th basics... but some people like Adrienne have grown and have had to go through an election/ presidency like this to really pay attention and grow up and actually look into politics and the policies that people in office are pushing for th American people... Jeannie didn’t say anything about race..l she was referring to age... And let’s not forget she is a minority as well... if anything she’s speaking based off her experience with her previous marriage in which she realized her ex husband didn’t have the same views as her once the controversial 2016 election came into play... to me she’s speaking as an ally and an individual who has grown... not just based off who she’s dating
My problem is when other races (especially democrats) take it as a badge of honor by trying to play the victim on everything "FOR US". It's fake, inauthentic and just looks straight up pathetic. We've already got enough if that ignorant mindset amongst our own people that's set us back enough. Nah, I'm good. Imma be alright. We need strength, not more weakness to keep setting us back.
Imagine being supportive of BLM, Not supporting Deportation, believing in systemic racism, or women's choice, or feminism, And have a significant other that doesn't care for those topics or actively go against those views. 🤪 To me I have to handle somebody being in a different party but the policies or political choices that you stand behind and that the person you're supporting stands behind is very different. That's the difference between political views and differing morals. And you could say 'agreeing to disagree' but Agreeing to disagree is for people who think that pineapple should be on pizza not if racism is real or if a woman should go to jail because she fell down the stairs while pregnant and had a miscarriage. Like you can have a difference in opinion but if your morals are not aligned with mine, (which yes some political views show a person's morals), or you want to support someone who's morals are hateful or vindictive or just disgusting then I don't want you in my life and that goes for a friend or a S.O ! I don't need that energy near me. I DON'T WANT IT 🤮 because I can't sleep nice to somebody knowing that they support someone who's taking or wants to take human rights away or somebody who is constantly spreading hate or people who don't seem to have compassion and empathy for people I'm cool off of it
