That was a dumb response from her, since the topic was racism in general, not BLM. As a WOC herself, she should also be educating her man, too. And it's not like there haven't been instances of racism toward the Asian community from black people. They've even talked about it on their show in the past. So it's not as if the black community can't learn from an Asian woman about what the Asian community experiences.
@@volcrazy89 u can learn from anybody tbh. Even white ppl. The thing is that Asians have pretty much always been regarded as the model minorities by white ppl. Even with America's racist history, theyre pretty much really well woven into the fabric of america. Ie, Asian women are highly accepted as spouses for white men in America bc its not really looked down upon to be or marry an asian. Maybe now, bc of covid, but before then....not really? Also, they make the most money in our country, more than even white ppl on average. I mean, Asian women's biggest struggles in america are being seen as too docile and too smart and too family oriented/too unable to divest from family interests and not being caucasian/pale enough. So i can understand why jeannie would say she feels its her place to listen.
Can i understand why? All skin colors are beautiful but i feel like “ I dont see color” is i love you for you Whatever color you are. Do you mean like what does color have to with this your lowkey racist or subconsciously color matters?
@@rawandosari851 I understand that may be the intention, but the idea that any person of color's life and culture arent crafted by that "color" is unrealistic. When you love who we are and what makes us awesome, refusing to acknowledge or "see" the color that contributed to making us that way is like turning a blind eye to a huge part of who we are. Typically the people we encounter who "don't see color" fail to understand what bothers us, how things hurt, why we make certain moves/choices, our beliefs and more
It might very well be the perfect answer but the reality is what Loni and Garcelle are saying. They are not justifying it but what they are saying is actually what is happening. Granted, the hope is that they make up their minds and do the right thing but that always isn't the case.
It’s the perfect answer for BLM and social justice issues and injustices towards Black men and women. However when it comes to relationships and them speaking on race. The other minority should also talk about their experiences. They should both speak on their experiences.
I feel like her parents as immigrants had their own struggles and listening isn't a one way street. It seems like Jay really respects her culture too, but a partner needs to respect the struggles of Asian immigrants in the United States as well. Vietnamese didn't come into this country with PHDs, some came by boat and worked hard labor to achieve the American dream.
She usually does. She is very authentic. I get so sick of other races telling Black people how we should feel. I've never told a Jewish person to "get over" the Holocaust or a person of Latin/Spanish descent how to feel about immigration or deportation and being separated from their children. The nerve of people who think that's appropriate.
But that low key puts them at risk just to satisfy us and I don’t think it’s worth it.. we’ll just have to deal with the changes until they feel safe to depart from their homes on a daily basis.
I agree. Just because you're a Black person and you're in a relationship with a White person doesn't take away ANY of your Blackness. You're still Black when you wake up in the morning and look in the mirror, you still have BLACK in your DNA, etc... That's like saying a white person doesn't love other White people because they're in a interracial relationship.
Adrienne and Jeanine reactions to the cheating thing is sooo Me!! like no excuses, you got months to sit down and be like hey I don’t want this no more and because of covid you got plenty of time to get your affairs in order to move on lol
Yes, Jeannie is also a minority but I think she realizes that right now with the heavy movement of Black Lives Matter that it’s just a moment for her to listen and support him through this moment in time. I highly doubt that they don’t have discussions about both of their experiences and cultures.
Jay Zeus your point is ridiculous. If you look at what I said, I pointed out that it’s unlikely that the two of them don’t talk about each other’s culture. In fact, he planned on going to Jeannie’s home country before the pandemic. She described that on the real and her RU-vid show. In the beginning of the pandemic there was increased hate towards the Asian community. It would only make sense that he supported her through that. You completely missed my point and I think you should visit and think about your own views of minorities. It’s very narrow minded and bias to assume Black people don’t know about the stories/history of other minorities. There’s a lot wrong with what you said about the movement for the Black community and that’s why it’s important to listen, learn, and support. BTW, the civil rights movement (MLK) and the Black Lives Matter movement may have the same goals and visions but they are two very separate movements.
Today Jeannie is a Minority because she’s with a Black Man. When she was married for over 10 years to a White man she identified more and immersed herself into what????Yall know the answer. Pick a color.
BRILLIANT DIVA Jeannie is a minority because she is NOT CAUCASIAN!!! Anybody in this country who is NOT CAUCASIAN is considered an POC... she is Vietnamese and Chinese... she’s always been proud of her culture , she’s told stories of how her momma came here from Vietnam , she’s celebrated Chinese New Year on the show, she’s brought Vietnamese dishes and etc.. who she’s with don’t have nothing to do with her race...
As much as I miss Tamera, I’m so excited for Garcelle’s presence at this great show. All the ladies are upfront and deliver such great conversations. Plus they are slaying these looks so beautifully! @TheReal Excellent!👌🏽❤️✨
It’s not okay to play with people’s feelings and not have conversations about what’s wrong. It was for better or for worse. If it’s gotten too bad, then leave. There’s no excuse for cheating period regardless of how hard your marrige has become.
I’m 1000% with what Jeannie is saying. Cheating is cheating. Respect yourself no matter what age you are and what circumstances you’re in. Can’t believe Loni said that
I think they meant not everyone have the money to just pick up and leave. Like women leave their marriage mentally first before they leave physically. I don't condone cheating but some people stay until their finances are up then they leave and in the mean time they already left the marriage spirituality and mentally.
@@kiamyal8698 Sure i believe that it is important for women to feel that they are quite secure before they can leave but Loni shouldn't have brought up the age thing man. Age doesn't have anything to do with it
''If quarentine (or life) shows you that you are with the wrong person, don't become the wrong person by doing wrong things''. I think this sentence is gonna stick in my mind for a long time, thanks Jeannie for that!
“Romantics at heart and good girls cause when you reach a certain age” Loni girl please, these are also grown women. I hear what your point of view is but that shouldn’t dismiss somebody else’s point of view. I completely agree with Adrian and Jeannie, if you’re so unhappy then just leave instead of cheating.
Cheating is NEVER ok in a Marriage unless that was agreed upon by both parties before committing to each other! To use COVID/Pandemic as an excuse is SELFISH & lower than low when some of us have lost loved ones to Covid 19 💔 I agree w/ Adrienne & Jeanie 💯
If you’re dating a nonBlack person that has little or a bad understanding of the Black struggle, 13TH on Netflix is a great place to start and ofc following with all the protests and movements from all our struggles. Loni was right, education is what they need but THEY!!! Need to have the desire to learn about us!! THEY SHOULD WANT TO LEARN
This is the main reason ( along with being physically challenged) why I 100%choose to stay single because if you choose to date interacially because the constant derogatory remarks and public hate isn't worth it.
I find it interesting that all four hosts have been or are currently in interracial relationships. Five if you count Tamera. That's a lot higher than the national average of about 3 percent.
I wonder if the statistics are higher pertaining to Black women specifically? Just because Tamera, Garcelle and Loni are all Black women (60% of the hosts) so I wonder if that might account for the increased representation?
@@KS-di4df It is probably an income/success thing. I feel that many black women who "make it to the top" date and marry outside of their race, because they struggle to find comparable black men.
Everyone looked so beautiful today 👀 In regards to race, I think a lot of it has to due with a lack of respect, interest, and understanding of everyone’s culture. I remember reading something that said “In the age of knowledge, ignorance is a choice,” and honestly it’s true.
Loni always tries to be devil’s advocate (in a good way). She always tries to see why someone did it, and doesn’t immediately look down on them. Jeannie and Adrienne often don’t go in the mind set, but Garcelle does what Loni does, and it makes the show so much more interesting. (If tam was still on, it’d be better)
I wish that Jeanie and Adrianne can come down from their cloud once in a while to see the reality of things. Not everyone has your money, not everyone has your mentality. I get what your saying and I AGREE but you have to try to figure why people do what they do NOT just judge them. You can’t compare your rich friends to the daily American woman or person.
People saying Adrien isn’t Hispanic bc that isn’t a race...stop coming for her. If she said she was white it would be a problem and if she said she was black it would be a problem. She identifies as her ethnicity and when she goes out into the world people see her as Latina. Periodt
I get your point...but Latin Americans come in a wide variety of races. If she were married to a white Argentinia or Cuban, or a black Dominican or Haitian, that's still interracial despite them also being Latino.
Antifa Slut I know that. I’m talking about her saying she’s in an interracial relationship because she is Latina and people leaving comments saying that it isn’t a race. We all know that, but for one race is a social construct so it’s not going to make complete sense anyway. And two, what should she consider herself if not Latina? Biracial ? That’s not usually socially acceptable for Latin people. Let her represent her community by claiming her ethnicity because anything she says it’ll be a problem for someone.
@@millieb710 Honestly, she comes from an interracial background given her DNA makeup, as a lot of Latinx people do. She herself probably doesn't think of it that way because it's from generations back, in her case. I mean yes I guess her relationship is technically interracial just as Tamera, who is biracial, was, but Adrienne still frames 'Latina' as a race instead of an ethnicity just as a lot of Latinx people do. She was shocked that she was 60% white in her DNA results on the show years ago, when Tamar was still a host. And fully or almost fully white Latinx people are notorious for calling their relationships with white non-Latinx people "interracial" because a lot of Latinx people think being Latin automatically makes them non-white (especially if you're in the US), which is inaccurate and honestly completely ignorant, since around 40% of Latinx people are white and it's the biggest subgroup in the Latin community. In the end, it's 'intercultural' more than anything, and it's no different than a German person being in a relationship with an Irish person. That doesn't really apply to this particular instance much, but it speaks to the bigger issue of so much misinformation being out there regarding race vs. ethnicity, particularly when it comes to the Latin community. Adrienne is a Latina host on a show full of WOC. She needs to get educated on this topic when she has this platform.
I can’t understand Jeannie she said she KNEW from the moment she got married it wasn’t right and she stayed for over 10 years? Her and Adrienne get defensive rather than realistic because they’ve been cheated on
I think she meant that there were "red flags" but she still loved freddy and vice versa. But it wasmore Freddy as far as I know. Bc Jeannie didnt want no kids and neither did freddy at the beginning. He later on changed his mind and knew he wouldnt be happy without kids. So yeah 🤷🏻♂️
Jeannie interacted with Freddy when he would come on the show in different segments. I could tell ahe really tried to run the relationship and be dominate over him. It was almost like she lacked respect in some clips. I don't know Every thing but it wasn't all freddy's fault.
Jeannie I understand you want to listen and it’s SO important to LISTEN to the black experience. However it’s important for you to talk about your experience and the Asian experience as well. As a Mexican I would want my significant other to understand MY experience. Listening to what is going on right now (or atleast what has been showed to us finally) BLM and social justice issues is important. Yes we should 🤐 and 👂. But let’s not disregard our experiences when it comes to having conversations w our significant others about race.
I’m not butthurt. it’s just important for other minorities to talk about their experiences to their significant others as well. (FYI other minority experience don’t negate the black experience) it’s so important to listen but it’s also important to speak on your own experiences as well.
Why can’t people just communicate with each other, instead of letting whatever it is that bothering them, to get to a point where you end up having affair and creating massive headache in your relationships. If you don’t talk or communicate with your partner, why be in a relationship, cause a relationship needs, love, understanding and communication. And without communication that relationship is screwed from the very start.
They would have this strong conversation when my girl tam quit the show. I’m glad they all are comfortable to finally have these hard topics on the show. I see growth
I think this is a very interesting discussion because atleast for me I would think people in interracial relationships would make sure to turn a blind eye to such a serious issue especially if there is situations where maybe even someone in their own families aren’t ok with them dating outside of their race... hell ! Tam last season said her dads family wasn’t very kind and ended up and shut them out just cuz he was with their mom who was black ! But as far as like... actually having to deal with SOCIETY and strangers looking at you and being mean and nasty towards you just based off the color of your skin... that very important conversation needs to be talked about especially when we have such powerful and controversial things goin on in our country with BLM & Police Brutality whether u witness or are a victim of it... it’s a convo that needs to happen especially if you visualize being with this person forever
Loni is right! It's easy to judge when you're younger, in love and don't have kids. Once you get responsibilities, the view will change. There are women who stay in marriages for the sake of the kids because they don't make enough money to take care of all their kids, nor do they have a support system. They're enjoying themselves in the process. It's not "right" and it's reality.
I think there’s a double standard here. When they were talking about men cheating on Ashley Maddison, everybody was appalled. But now that it’s women, it’s okay??
Totally agree, I don't agree with cheating but I can see how things can happen especially when you're relationship that lacks certain important things. You're not going to be willing to walk away from your marriage just because your spouse lacks good communication or isn't romantic. He can still be a good man who provides and who is understanding and supportive. It's alot of age and maturity. That's why the divorce rate is so high because there is no perfect person and people start leaving relationships because you just don't squeeze the toothpaste from the bottom.
Just packing up and leaving...IN THIS PANDEMIC???! 😭 but ofc Jeannie and Ade are right but what’s the REALISTIC thing to do especially in this twilight zone we’re living in isnt always gonna be the “right” thing. It’s rough out in them streets 😩
I hate when ppl talk about relationships with no grey area. It’s hardly ever one or the other. It’s rarely that easy. But then in a pandemic?! Like Loni said they ain’t tryna leave they just want a little love which is wrong but still.
Jasmine H exactly when, I adore my girls!!!, but they both were in long term relationships before where they were unhappy (like most of us). It’s always way easier said than done
Jeannie and Addrinne are very sensitive about this subject but i agree with them. We don't excuse men that cheat so i'm not going to coddle women either. I don't care if you and your spouse have open relationships if BOTH people are aware that your business, but we need to stop making excuses for cheating with sob stories. As a single person it is very unattractive to hear married people try to justify cheating and why they won't leave. Life isn't perfect and i know marriage has a lot of unexpected change, but it's the life you chose.
Totally agree with Garcelle and Loni, when you're in love and have limited experience within a relationship you can say that. I don't agree with cheating but I can understand it can happen, especially when you're relationship lack specific things that are important to you.
Adrienne and Jeannie, everything in life (especially marriages and relationships) is not always stay so neatly packaged! Sometimes an unintentional detours can be that experience that repairs/strengthens a relationship that is slowly falling apart!
Whoever runs this RU-vid account still hasn’t learned not to post a small snippet of a girl chat and follow it up with the full clip a few hours later! Smh
I find it interesting that all of these women are (were) in interracial relationships. Genuinely interesting. I wonder if that plays into their perspectives as people and makes it easier for them to get along
Loni no matter what... CHEATING IS NOT THE ANSWER!! How are you co signing cheating? Nah Then her just saying “well they’re just in love” no, that’s who they are as people. If you’re not happy, and you can’t communicate with the person you’re with about it, then you’re probably not with the right person anyway but cheating isn’t the answer
@@br00klynnative58 Race is like your DNA, shown by physical features, hair texture etc. Ethnicity is your culture, the way you have been raised eg. Food, dialects, traditions. Lastly, Nationality which is basically where you were born. So someone can be white/caucasian in race, ethnically latino and American but if they were in a relationship with another white person who is ethnically Swedish and English it would not be an interracial relationship because they are the same race
You know its phrases like this that confuses people in general like if there not races then why is it that wen your feeling out any application or survey etc when it says choose your race those two specific names hispanic/ latina comes up as a race I don't get it🤷🏽♀😕😕🤔
I get it tho. Hispanics can be "white" but we've never felt included with them. Feeling this we don't even know why we have to put "white" on an application
Shannon Phillip she’s saying cause Hispanics are so diverse , they don’t fit into a category but we are native . I guess she’s a light skin Hispanic and feels like she’s too white for the natives but too Hispanic looking for the whites . As a dark Peruvian women I never had this problem .
This is a cool topic, but what I did like about having Amanda is that she spoke for those of us that choose to date within our own race exclusively. I feel like we are shamed as being anti or it’s used as a form of hate just because I only date black men while these women are praised and encouraged to date any race. I have no problem with someone else chooses to do with their life as long as it doesn’t directly impact me, but I just appreciate discussions where it’s understood that we also can love who we love. It’s part of the reason why I made the personal choice early on to be with a black man and have black children because I know that there is a more intimate understanding and relationship between us...not to mention they are just the sexiest thing to walk the earth in my eyes 😍. I truly do love the topic though, given all of the ladies are or have been in interracial relationships.
Sreyleak Xavier perhaps you can’t feel the chemistry because one there’s a lag between all of em ( timing wise due tot hem being in different areas during filming) and two they aren’t in each other’s faces... the chemistry is there , always will be but it won’t be as noticeable cuz they aren’t physically around each other
Its not about chemistry its about the set-up. Kind of hard to have chemistry on a zoom meeting no matter how much they upgraded the camera quality. They clearly have a delay in hearing each other, makes it awkward. I think we are all over the virtual thing at this point.
An affair is an affair and it’s not on and not fair on anyone. You should respect each other and love one another and have the heart to move on and be open Honest.
I agree with Adrienne & Jeanie, online affairs are still just that... an AFFAIR. There's no justification for people who decide to "cheat" online because they want an "escape" AKA something different. It's still an emotional affair, and its wrong! I don't like the way it was being downplayed, call it what it is lol.