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Full Send Carb Mod and explanation Echo CS-590! 

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@cle569
@cle569 2 года назад
Ppl always say husqvarna vs sthil are like ford vs Chevy; however I like my echo the toyota of chainsaw
@gordonhenderson1965
@gordonhenderson1965 Год назад
Dunno, the Echo really is a much less tech saw than the other two. No circuit boards in this. That's why this 'Toyota' is cheaper than the Ford and Chevy.
@coolestguyontheplanet723
@coolestguyontheplanet723 Год назад
Wouldn't that be more like a Saab
@scootypuffjr.
@scootypuffjr. Год назад
I have Toyota, and an Echo.
@juanesteban8827
@juanesteban8827 8 месяцев назад
Just consider how many times Toyota has won Lemans!
@wrstew1272
@wrstew1272 6 месяцев назад
@@gordonhenderson1965- sometimes low tech is far better than high technology. Like zero electronics to break and try to get replacement parts for. The new ones work great, or don’t work……take your pick and pay for the ones that suit your requirements 😂
@Engine4dragon
@Engine4dragon 2 года назад
Part number for the Walbro nozzle check valve with no governing hole is 86-578-1 its $8
@robertwoerner20
@robertwoerner20 Год назад
The little slot on the jet is an alignment mark for install, that way you can line the needle up correctly
@MrHammGutsnGlory
@MrHammGutsnGlory 3 месяца назад
Just subscribed. Thanks for the well informative instructional video. I just purchased the cs-590. If I start the have problems, I will come back to this video.
@michaellove3948
@michaellove3948 Год назад
Holy shit I’ve been having idle issues and issues with my cs590 dying after throttle for months and been tearing her apart. I just swapped out my high jet nozzle for the full send one (I didn’t seal up the hole like you did I punched out the entire jet) and holy crap it completely fixed all of my issues she is purring again , I would say this is the #1 most important carb mod for the 590 by far and may be the reason for most of its problems actually
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL Год назад
Here is a perfect solution for mixing up. JB weld use the bottom of a beer can or soda can and then you throw it away when you're done easy clean up 🙌🙏
@Stanny936
@Stanny936 2 года назад
I bought petroleum resistant JB weld to do this mod. After banging on the high jet a few times with my punch, I noticed the hole on the top reduced one diameter a decent amount. I was hesitant on applying the JB weld so I decided to just go with it. This helped a decent amount. After seeing your video, it makes me want to go back and complete the mod. Subscribed for sure!
@Parkerpalmer987
@Parkerpalmer987 2 года назад
Cs 590 is a torque monster 👹!!!! Nice job 👍
@ejsocci2630
@ejsocci2630 Год назад
Thanks for your videos ,I enjoy them.
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 2 года назад
I mix epoxy on masking tape with a fat zip tie, works marvellously
@ritterjon
@ritterjon 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tips! Much appreciated!
@IowaPerformanceSaws
@IowaPerformanceSaws 2 года назад
Awesome Buddy. You do such a good job of providing valuable, or at least useful information and tutorials on what, how and why you're doing things. Cutting cookies is fun to watch- but if you really want to become a better enthusiast or sawyer- you need to learn. And, you're funny, and relatable. I think you should be climbing the ranks if my opinion counts.
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thanks man! The best job I ever had was teaching HVAC in the Air Force. I learned that, when you need to teach others how to do something, you learn the subject matter in depth at an exponential rate. I also learned to teach the material with the students questions in mind. A lot of students won't ask their questions, and so you must answer them as you teach expecting the questions even though no one has asked. I'm so thankful for everyone on RU-vid who I learn from. Tinman, John, Joe, Walt, Matt, Ironhorse, and on and on. But they all have the same problem...they leave out the minutiae, which leaves their students not fully understanding. Teaching is so rewarding when done right. To both students and teacher.
4 месяца назад
Thank you for your service! I love your videos, entertaining and very informative, just enough humor and smart ass to be totally relatable like a friend explaining shit! Keep up the good work and we'll definitely keep watching
@AthosTFC
@AthosTFC Год назад
I think a welch plug would also work over that governing hole and it is easily removable. Great video, i really learned a lot from your channel!
@dentondunn4346
@dentondunn4346 2 года назад
New Echo Timberwolf owner here. Subscribed!!!!!!!
@MrHammGutsnGlory
@MrHammGutsnGlory 3 месяца назад
I just wanted to include that cleaning the spark arrestor on my weed eater helped improve the performance dramatically, so maybe look at the spark arrestor on the chainsaw to see if it had gotten clogged, if the performance seems to have gotten bad. Anyways, thanks again for the video.
@zeromark202
@zeromark202 2 года назад
Amazing Job!!!! Finally a cs-590 video that explains technical information and on what to do! Saw has been out for years and you Sir have the most informative video! Thank you Thank you!! Can I ask why you put the deflector angled towards the left side vs to the right side stock? I can’t believe it’s not hitting the limit on the coil, as least it doesn’t sound like it. So the 620 unlimited coil & larger carb isn’t as much of a issue as the stupid H-jet bypass on the 590/620 carburetor’s. That hole is what it sounds to me is the most restrictive lagging performance deal on both the 590/620’s. The muffler modifications of course have to be done as well as the limiter cap tabs. Appreciate your time Sir, best video on the RU-vid for the Echo CS-590 TimberWolf!! That saw screams now! Great job! 👍 So 😎!
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thank you! And please, for the love of God, share the video! Been trying to grow my channel, but it can be difficult. As far as the deflector goes, it is on just like it was from factory, you are probably seeing me talk about it when the camera is on selfie mode. It makes it a mirror image. I'll do a tuning video of it tomorrow if I have time. Get the tac out and see what it spins at. If all goes well, on Wednesday I will have a Wack-Off video of it running against itself in stock form. I hope you check out my channel. I've got lots of good content. Or so I think.
@j.chrisbeck7492
@j.chrisbeck7492 Год назад
Deflector still going to the right side, it's the camera gives a backwards image, look at the sign on the wall.....
@zeromark202
@zeromark202 2 года назад
Do you have a tachometer? There cheap around $25-30 bucks, would love to see what rpm’s the saw is revving to. I’m still waiting on tinman’s cs590 build to be uploaded and finished.
@Houseworksaws
@Houseworksaws 2 года назад
On the 620 carb to get it to actually tune I punch the jet out rotate it a lil and reinstall then you can tune it to the moon. Those jets have to be lined up in order for that bypass passage to work. So simply turning it will block it off.
@wrstew1272
@wrstew1272 6 месяцев назад
Definitely different carburetors. Look closely, maybe because he is in Canada and requirements are different for the manufacturer? But different.😊
@joescissorhands141
@joescissorhands141 2 года назад
To be clear, you were showing an "extra" jet, and - if 1 were to do this at-home, they would *not* actually be removing the jet from the carb? They would simply be opening the carb's cover on that side, and plugging with JB? Just wanna be clear!! Cannot believe it but actually had my 590 not start after mussing its carb the other day (it's ported and had been running-lean from a plugged filter, which I still cannot understand but it was running lean as heck and cleaning it made it go haywire and die when I pulled trigger..) May've flooded it, have the factory spec settings tuned in (3/4ths on the H, 1 3/4 on the L, just double-checked that is the OEM tech manual spec, has a good carb-tuning instructional actually am hoping the starting points are OK-enough for my ported&flowed unit..) "Truly modded"...man this is almost subjective in "common parlance" but I posit this is objective and that NO 590 muff-mod that opens up the rear half can be optimal, they all inherently allow atmosphere "into the mix" by the flange meaning you're altering charge-dynamics for the worse...you can fix it super easily though, using that big top-hole "for access" to the central baffle-wall, enlarge its passage-holes at least 75%+ to the front-half and then seal the top-face ENTIRELY, and make your new exit(s) on the front-face of the muffler (I made mine as a pair, though I could've made 1 exit w/ 2x the size, a pair of 1/2-as-big just has a better sound IMO!!) I did mine to about 75% surface area of the OEM exhaust flange area, though to be fair my flange is widened & port-matched into the muffler but I figured that'd only really affect the characteristics of the port itself not muffler-requirements, and all the books emphasize to go a bit smaller, than risk going a lil too-large, on your muff's final exit....makes sense when you consider how well off-the-shelf saws can perform w/ their choked-up muffs, my 2511 has like barely 1/4"sq exit not even!!
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Correct. Just fill the hole while it is still in the carb.
@zeromark202
@zeromark202 2 года назад
I take the air filter cover off and just use the knob off the cover to hold the air filter while I’m tuning, yes those tiny carb H/L slots suck, that makes it where I can see better inserting the screw driver during tuning adjustments.
@dentondunn4346
@dentondunn4346 Год назад
Can you turn the high jet with a small screwdriver or it take a special tool? It doesn’t have limiter’s on mine, took them off
@zeromark202
@zeromark202 11 месяцев назад
Yes the jets are slotted for a flathead screw driver. Echo makes a special tool to remove the limiters which I have PN: 91075 a drywall screw works but can damage. I buy new limiter caps since there only .99 cents a piece cut the tabs off and re-insert them back in makes it much easier to get the screw driver on them and turn.
@MrHammGutsnGlory
@MrHammGutsnGlory 3 месяца назад
Question: Can I do the easier muffler mod without having to do the carb mod?
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 3 месяца назад
Yes
@WreckitRalphie
@WreckitRalphie 2 года назад
Carb settings after jb weld and muffler mod please
@DerrickOrtiz-g3l
@DerrickOrtiz-g3l 2 месяца назад
But what did you actually adjust the carb to?
@timboslicehannawacker5259
@timboslicehannawacker5259 2 года назад
Tinman used a 620 carb for the 590 I think
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Ahhhhh, that explains it! Thanks!
@woolchaff
@woolchaff 2 года назад
he also stated in a video it didn't help much, but the 620 coil did help
@Just1NSubl1M
@Just1NSubl1M 2 года назад
Love the video!
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
@Mikzone-zb6jk
@Mikzone-zb6jk 2 года назад
I just bought the tool echo makes to remove those red caps it's a reverse thread tool best $15 I spent in a while.
@lancejanvrin9688
@lancejanvrin9688 2 года назад
If you don't mind, what's the part number? I'm having a little trouble searching for it.
@michaellove3948
@michaellove3948 Год назад
I also added paper gaskets and some shellac compound stuff between the carburetor on both sides to help steal things up because there were no gaskets originally and I feel like that’s a huge design flaw so that with the nozzle is a fucking crazy monster chains, I can actually read it and get it tonight for stroke anymore and you Lena to fuck out. The crazy thing is when I was trying to tune it I had the high I’d like one and a half it wanted a full like 3 1/half plus with us mod after I was done I was not expecting that. I was getting a ton of bars on the low and I could not Revit initially then I just opened that high jet and what bam .
@jwoods345
@jwoods345 2 года назад
Seems strong and sounds sweet. Unlimited coil next?
@bryantitus6634
@bryantitus6634 2 года назад
Unlimited coil for the win.
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Where can I get an unlimited coil? I know the 620 has a higher limit, but...it's still limited isn't it?
@bryantitus6634
@bryantitus6634 2 года назад
@@novicelumberjack well... Yes, but it's limited much higher. Really, the 620p carburator is the biggest upgrade. Flows more and better. But the unlimited coil will allow you to tune properly without the coil kicking in/off.
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
@@bryantitus6634 👌
@donjohnson9170
@donjohnson9170 Год назад
That line is for line up the hole for needle valve
@timothybyrom5560
@timothybyrom5560 2 года назад
She cuts EH.
@j.chrisbeck7492
@j.chrisbeck7492 Год назад
Glad you shared this, I have the same saw, it's running real nice right now, but after I do some of these cool mods I might need to do this
@timmacon6549
@timmacon6549 10 месяцев назад
I would like to know how many turns out from seat position for high and low jet
@frankz1125
@frankz1125 2 года назад
Sounds good
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
@EcSsAwS
@EcSsAwS 2 года назад
Nice job.
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
@ToddAdams1234
@ToddAdams1234 2 года назад
Looks like you’ve got a winner now. I noticed a momentary lack of RPM gain during all of those accelerations, what’s up with those? “Maybe” another tuning issue, or is it something else?
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Good ear! Your Definitely right. This is usually from the low side being too lean in my experience, but I was having such a hard time finding the screwdriver slots, I kinda gave up. Plus, listening to it on video afterwards, I was able to hear a lot more detail. Before I do the Wack-Off, I'll spend a copious amount of time dialing it in and getting it perfect. Hopefully it will make a difference.
@ToddAdams1234
@ToddAdams1234 2 года назад
I just wanted to make sure that I wasn’t “hearing things”. Thanks for your timely response! ☺️
@wrstew1272
@wrstew1272 6 месяцев назад
I fly radio control aircraft, and a rich engine will not work as well as a properly tuned engine. Fact from 22 years of tweaking needles. If you do this modification, be advised that temperature changes and humidity changes will affect the performance. Modify at your own discretion 😊
@williamtoney2599
@williamtoney2599 Год назад
The slot in the main jet is a conversation piece…….😂
@hickerbilly345
@hickerbilly345 11 дней назад
If you didn't have the bar upside down you probably wouldn't have had to JB weld that hole.
@larrywarner9314
@larrywarner9314 Год назад
Tinmans carb is totally different
@mainrig4981
@mainrig4981 11 месяцев назад
you can limit restrict flow put a copper wirel in the hole and by thickness you can regulate the ammount of flow
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 11 месяцев назад
Why would I want to do that? Zero flow is desired, not restricted flow.
@tomsommer54
@tomsommer54 Год назад
I would like to you put a tachometer on the saw to see where it reaches.
@Ceemysix
@Ceemysix Год назад
Broody, is this mod applicable to the 620 also?
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
Never know until you try, 👍🆙 Big Guy!
@cgriebel1
@cgriebel1 Год назад
Boedy, are you sure that "screen" in the nozzle isn't actually the check valve? Just asking..
@MotoLife541
@MotoLife541 2 дня назад
I guarantee that's a check valve like most the newer carbs have. Once the check valve goes bad the carb won't prime and you get a bunch of air in your primer bulb.
@ΘοδωρηςΓουρζης-ο1χ
Is this a cs590? My cs590 isn't black and red. The local dealer didn't bring timberwolf chain bar.
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Yes, CS-590. I died the plastics. I have a video of it. It looks amazing!
@ΘοδωρηςΓουρζης-ο1χ
@@novicelumberjack I also paint. Thank you
@rchighfield1
@rchighfield1 2 года назад
Seems a little quicker to rev now that it’s not smothered.
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
We'll see what it does in the cut.
@razoredgesaws4202
@razoredgesaws4202 2 года назад
👍
@jaimecornejo2185
@jaimecornejo2185 2 года назад
Now put a redbeard saws air filter and some west coast felling digs 3 point and it will be more of a beast
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
I've got bigger plans for this saw. Just saying...
@ejsocci2630
@ejsocci2630 Год назад
Awesome awesome 👏🏻
@kevinwilson8350
@kevinwilson8350 Год назад
Love this guy.
@ChevyGuy70
@ChevyGuy70 2 года назад
Lol seems like I’ve gotten behind on some videos 😂 awesome video😎👍
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Glad you're catching up!
@exploringwithdonald8444
@exploringwithdonald8444 2 года назад
I have this same saw
@Talachachannel
@Talachachannel 2 года назад
Goofy jobs….
@CharlesBrisco
@CharlesBrisco 2 года назад
Mine turns 14to15k purty easy
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
How did you get past the limited coil?
@CharlesBrisco
@CharlesBrisco 2 года назад
@@novicelumberjack with stock coil an port work ushud see 13k or touch more 620 coil will let it go up a lot more after port work
@scavuman
@scavuman 2 года назад
Subscribed a while back, and I have to say that I really enjoy the content, and now look forward to the next video, Good Stuff !
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
@jonathanhensley8685
@jonathanhensley8685 2 года назад
The line on the high jet is for proper alignment to the fuel circuit
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thanks for that. I figured it out as I got further along. Hey, I had a good friend all throughout my childhood named Jonathan Hensley. Are you him?
@jonathanhensley8685
@jonathanhensley8685 2 года назад
Not sure lol I had a lot of friends through school come and go in my memory is not the best I’m 43 years old from a small town in Marshall North Carolina been messing around with chainsaws for many years and thoroughly enjoy it. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼
@exploringwithdonald8444
@exploringwithdonald8444 2 года назад
9:28 how do you replace that little thing
@BoedyPennington
@BoedyPennington 2 года назад
Well, I have two separate carbs there. I just knocked that one out to show it to the camera, so you don't need to take it out. But if you did...just knock it back in gently and exactly the way it was to begin with.
@exploringwithdonald8444
@exploringwithdonald8444 2 года назад
@@BoedyPennington yeah I have some old carbs and needed the jet check valve for my other chainsaw , I am working on just got a new carb for my Stihl MS250
@sean7119
@sean7119 2 года назад
What was your settings on the carb when you got it dialed in?
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Shoot man, couldn't tell ya. I'll try to remember and check tomorrow. Don't be afraid to ask again to remind me.
@mjengland1
@mjengland1 2 года назад
@@novicelumberjack I'd like to know this too! Thanks
@WreckitRalphie
@WreckitRalphie 2 года назад
@thenovicelumberjack I'd like to know as well. Also what type of jb weld did u use
@robbevington1754
@robbevington1754 2 года назад
good job
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thanks!
@jackpinesavageadventures3142
@jackpinesavageadventures3142 2 года назад
👍🌳🇺🇸
@AATreeService
@AATreeService 2 года назад
U can go down to the local hardware store and get a reverse thread machine screw. The limiter removal tool is also reverse thread. Was Tinmans carb from a 600/620?
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Great tip! Someone else pointed out that it was a 620 carb. Forgot about that.
@evgrin1507
@evgrin1507 8 месяцев назад
Such a nice beam just to waste on a few cookies 🤦‍♂️
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 8 месяцев назад
Nope, I got a LOT of cookies from it. Not just a few.
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 2 года назад
The echo 620 series has an unlimited coil!
@jimpann
@jimpann Год назад
People curse because they cannot express themselves with an intelligent choice of words. Any idiot can curse.
@rtdc5662
@rtdc5662 Год назад
Thanks for your expert opinion. We can't all be as high society as you though. Intelligent talk is just that. Talk
@jimpann
@jimpann Год назад
@@rtdc5662 your welcome!
@prestongodsey3567
@prestongodsey3567 Год назад
Actually scientific research has proven that the use of "bad" words is one trait of above average intelligence. So maybe you could do a little research before trying to pass judgement on other people, so you don't look fucking stupid
@notmee587
@notmee587 Месяц назад
It is you're NOT your. Intelligent
@jimpann
@jimpann Месяц назад
@@notmee587 AI speech app at its finest.
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