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Fulltone Is Closed: Is This The End Of The Boutique Era? 

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@troymoss4515
@troymoss4515 Год назад
Mike and I were friends for a couple of years around 86 - 87 and I played bass in his band briefly. I wish I could remember all his pedals from that period but I distinctly remember a fuzz face and echoplex. He was a tone hound to a serious degree and a tinkerer. I recall him going to guitar shows and buying old pedals and then fixing them. I’m very happy for the success he had had, well deserved! Thanks for all you do Josh!
@Murdernadofdeth
@Murdernadofdeth 2 года назад
I absolutely love these historical dives that Josh does.
@DS-nw4eq
@DS-nw4eq 2 года назад
I'd love it if he designed a pedal that wasn't a reissue of someone else's pedal... because that's all they do now. He needs to get off of RU-vid and go back to work.
@fboccheciampe
@fboccheciampe 2 года назад
@@DS-nw4eq because a comment by someone under the alias "D S" said so in... Guess where, yeah exactly you got it, in RU-vid! Clever bwoy I've never thought you'd guess😧
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 2 года назад
It's very clear and solid reasoning. It's easy to follow and a pretty good arc for a freeform talk
@SS-gx7tg
@SS-gx7tg 2 года назад
@@DS-nw4eq lmao how many comments are you gonna post on this video repeating the same thing? Who hurt you? You sound disturbingly infatuated with how Josh is living his life and vocalizing your disapproval seems very important to you (as though we care). Don't like this channel? Don't spend your time commenting over and over about how much you don't like it. It makes you look obsessed and stalker-ish.
@8153max
@8153max 2 года назад
Fultone goes way back to Robin Trower… and that made Fultone king of the new univibe… that is how I was introduced to his products… he had that sound I was searching for … because as a kid at 16 I had the real univibe… and he was the first to remake that sound perfectly
@cjfredi
@cjfredi Год назад
Mike was the first IMHO. I wish I still had the original fuzz and univibe pedals I bought from him back in the mid 90s. Fulltone, Way Huge and Prescription Electronics were my favorites at that time. Good memories. I would say 30yrs is pretty damn good. Thanks Josh.
@trushack
@trushack 2 года назад
Several days late, but enjoyed this. A couple thoughts: 1) I think non-boutique pedal producers have taken a few cues from the boutique side of the house and, I think, have generally succeeded at capturing the essence and vibe of boutique pedals while keeping things relatively accessible and affordable. As someone else mentioned, the playing field has been leveled in favor of the bigger companies in recent years. 2) I also think the reputations of Boss and MXR and the like have rebounded partly in (possibly subconscious) blowback to the boutique craze. 3) "Boutique" as a category just doesn't mean anything particularly special any more. Not to say there aren't awesome builders doing creative things, but for a lot of years I think part of the cachet behind a boutique pedal was that it was a unique piece that you couldn't just grab off a shelf at Guitar Center and many of them didn't have non-boutique equivalents. You had to scour forums or find smaller independent stores, or maybe even contact the builder directly off of their geocities web page. Now, if you want an Orange Squeezer clone or Shin-Ei fuzz type of pedal you can probably have one inside of an online shopping cart inside of five minutes. Hell, there are MXR-branded Prince of Tone and Timmy pedals now! Just about everyone has one (probably more) boutique pedal in their respective collections now. That's not a knock on the pedal builders themselves, just the way the environment has evolved. Make no mistake; I LOVE "boutique" stuff and have and use all sorts of boutique pedals. But I think the novelty of them as a unique, interesting subset of music gear has long disappeared.
@glassslide
@glassslide 2 года назад
Josh---didnt get to see this "live" but thank you soo much for such a FANTASTIC dissertation on the history of pedals, really well done. super informative, super interesting, cheers!!!
@gregrandallbtsr03
@gregrandallbtsr03 Год назад
Hi Josh. I'm way late watching this, but wanted you to know how much I enjoy these Monday morning sessions. Thanks for helping us learn and understand more about the music and gear we love.
@JCleggy
@JCleggy 2 года назад
I am so thankful for Josh and what he does for guitar. I use almost exclusively multi-effects/modelers, but it’s only a matter of time before I pick up a JHS pedal. It’s really all about wanting to own something designed/created by someone like Josh.
@chadgilpin3356
@chadgilpin3356 2 года назад
Josh is literally the best source for any kind of pedal noise/news. Who hasn’t had an OCD or at least played something from fulltone congrats from a pedal lover
@RLiuMRG
@RLiuMRG 2 года назад
@ 40:42 mark: "There's not been a huge demand for Fulltone..." That sums up why Fulltone is shutting down in 8 words. Great history lesson Josh - thank you!
@IBZ565
@IBZ565 2 года назад
Please write a book on the history of pedals! I love these history deep dives you do and would buy a book about the history of pedals in a heartbeat, but only if Josh writes it.
@jonrobert631
@jonrobert631 2 года назад
I really enjoy this Monday morning format, I hope it continues! 👍🤘
@PMAWoodner
@PMAWoodner 2 года назад
I’m a little puzzled why everyone is taking Fuller’s explanation for shutting down at face value. His constant negative self-promotion would doom any business model, boutique or not. While companies like JHS, EQD, OBNE, etc are building new stuff as well as communities around their business, Fuller was ranting and raving to the point where artists were* embarrassed to use his products and even distributors couldn’t work with him. Does that mark an end of an era or just a singular case study in how to not alienate everybody?
@LorriSanga
@LorriSanga 2 года назад
This does factor for sure. But at the heart of any business is profitability. Josh has conformed profits are in the sewer in today's climate. Fuller has earnt his right to ride into the sunset.
@weschilton
@weschilton 2 года назад
Because Mike Fuller started his business 30 years ago, its older and ready to retire. Why is that so hard to believe? 30 years is a LONG time to run a small business.
@brendanrice1018
@brendanrice1018 2 года назад
@@LorriSanga idk if you read the comment you’re replying to. He’s saying that if you alienate enough people with your antics, it’s gonna hurt your profitability
@brendanrice1018
@brendanrice1018 2 года назад
Thank you!
@PMAWoodner
@PMAWoodner 2 года назад
@@weschilton if he said he was closing up shop because he wanted to retire, sure, but he said the business climate is the reason. He ran the business for 30+ years and is closing soon after he decided to be a right wing provocateur. Seems that decision has more to do with his profitability than anything else, considering he lost Guitar Center, probably other distributors, and basically made his brand toxic to a large percentage of his client base. Point being, I don’t think this comes down to guitar gear economics but a disastrous public relations decision.
@JB_Eckl
@JB_Eckl 2 года назад
Hey Josh, I think you accidentally skipped Z Vex a couple times in this discussion. When we were buying Fulltone pedals back in the day, we suddenly started getting into Z Vex and in a way, THAT was the signal that it was an 'era' and not just Mike Fuller. It's also significant that Z Vex didn't suffer from the 'stuck in the past' aspect of that era; products like the Fuzz Factory and the Seek Wah opened the floodgates for new ideas.
@ThemFuzzyMonsters
@ThemFuzzyMonsters 2 года назад
Darn, I remember ZVex early website! He was one of the first people to have demo videos of his products, and they were hilarious. That was years before RU-vid.
@JB_Eckl
@JB_Eckl 2 года назад
@@ThemFuzzyMonsters Wow, I forgot. I’d love to see those again
@phoenixvamvakias9329
@phoenixvamvakias9329 2 года назад
I was thinking the same, don’t forget about Zachary.
@ThemFuzzyMonsters
@ThemFuzzyMonsters 2 года назад
Zachary Vex has been in the business since the mid ‘90s, and to his credit, he has never made a conventional product.
@jawnedgaralice8606
@jawnedgaralice8606 2 года назад
I like these Monday lives. So many times you were there for us, now we're here for you to get things like this off your chest. The world really needs more of this attitude you guys are spreading here on this chanel. It's so calming, relaxing, soothing and funny at times a bit like therapy I didn't even know I needed. Cheers
@reginaldperiwinkle
@reginaldperiwinkle 2 года назад
The worst thing is that it's the end of the tube tape echo machine. I have one, it sounds amazing. It's the best sounding pedal I've ever heard.
@DS-nw4eq
@DS-nw4eq 2 года назад
According to Josh Scott, that was a horrible business mistake to design that great product you're enjoying. Josh Scott would know... he doesn't even design pedals anymore... he just reissues other people's work because he's busy pretending to be famous on RU-vid.
@cloudshad0ws
@cloudshad0ws 2 года назад
@@DS-nw4eq Yo you people are fucking weird.
@SS-gx7tg
@SS-gx7tg 2 года назад
@@DS-nw4eq You ok?
@donnareedfan
@donnareedfan 2 года назад
@D S Fulltone is going out of business, so Josh was right. DUH Too little thought before that adrenaline kicks in and you nasty-post, huh?
@stephenvignovich8654
@stephenvignovich8654 2 года назад
now where do we get tapes in tubes ,,,,Fuller left us hanging
@lucarossetto3493
@lucarossetto3493 2 года назад
Josh, I wish all the business owners would have half of the knowledge and passion about the environment they act in that you have. And I mean any branche, not only guitar pedals. Keep rolling us with you into this rabbit hole. We love it.
@srdjr6760
@srdjr6760 2 года назад
I love my Fulltone pedals. Great stuff made in the U.S. priced reasonably. I emailed Fulltone a few times and each time, got a reply from Mike himself. His replies were short and to the point, as can be expected by someone who is probably very busy. One email was an inquiry about the OCD Ge. He told me that since I had the OCD 2.01, I already had the best and I shouldn't bother with the Ge. Respect.
@billyshears6622
@billyshears6622 2 года назад
He told me to buy the cheaper Ranger because it was just as good. lol I have an OCD Ge and a custom red OCD and they are different. Ge is smoother, a tad mellower.
@MarkFromHawaii
@MarkFromHawaii 2 года назад
I've got a Clyde, a Clyde Deluxe, and a Mini DejaVibe. Some have complained how Mike was sometimes rude. I've never had a problem with him because I've never had a problem with his pedals. Toneful and built like a tank.
@CaevanOShite
@CaevanOShite 2 года назад
Late to this party. I was thinking, it seems that Fulltone was a culmination of both the best of the old guard, and the worst of the old guard, in several ways. As far as the pedals go, it was like Fulltone's primary goals were perfecting and expanding on things from the old Golden Age days, in durability and reliability as well as in sound and design quality.
@tickfawriver7990
@tickfawriver7990 2 года назад
I am a supplier to boutique pedal builders. I am sad to report that sales are down by 30%. If my sales are down 30% then the sales of my customers are down by 30%, Fulltone was one of my customers. This is real, between covid regulations, inflation and the recession it's near impossible for small businesses to survive.
@mr.astrophysics9115
@mr.astrophysics9115 2 года назад
Mike Fuller of Fulltone is a icon legend
@JTCox
@JTCox 2 года назад
To me it's just a passing phase in gear evolution. Boutique makers and smaller companies gave the pedal industry a much-needed kick in the butt with innovation and imagination, especially after the rack-mount era of the 80's-early 90's, and it was cool to have a close-knit group of small pedal builders that had a loyal following. kind of like finding your favorite underground band. Now it's gone global, and the market is flooded with tons of new "boutique" style pedals and companies making them. It's the ebb and flow of the industry. Boutique has gone mainstream.
@vcsuwar6126
@vcsuwar6126 Год назад
I think the DIY guys get a big assist in promoting the proliferation. The Boutique guys were big for pro musicians, but out of reach for a lot of hobbyists if not unobtanium for everyone alike. DIY guys sparked a collision between "boutique" and "obtainable." You don't make an affordable Tube Screamer, well then I'll make it myself.
@KattKirsch
@KattKirsch 2 года назад
Fulltone closing is a clear sign that maybe companies should provide customer service and also not shit on their customer base. Good riddance, and I'm glad we have companies in the modern era that are transparent and communicative with customers. You're doing great, Josh. Thanks again.
@weschilton
@weschilton 2 года назад
Oh do PLEASE get over yourself.
@bluzzjazz
@bluzzjazz 2 года назад
I love the unbiased way you talk about the history of pedals and the amount of knowledge you share. Great stuff Josh!
@davidmyzal7927
@davidmyzal7927 Год назад
Josh , Don’t forget Robin Trower was a huge a Fulltone proponent and made mention of Mike on many occasions in interviews and as you know had his own pedal named after him plus Mike devoted much of his time keeping Robin in the forefront of his business model at one time so as far not using marketing and social media didn’t need it when he had Robin I would guess . Genius on Mike’s end.. Just thought I shed some light on that .
@_NoDrinkTheBleach
@_NoDrinkTheBleach 2 года назад
I think that boutique pedals will always have a market, but it might be unrealistic to think that there's going to be another Fulltone sized company with the kind of output they had. I know a few guys that literally make their stuff in their garage and can only make 25-50 pedals in a run. The margins are probably very tight at that volume, but they always sell everything they make very quickly.
@davedoubleddykhuizen
@davedoubleddykhuizen 2 года назад
I would argue that we are presently enjoying the golden age of both pedals and synths, in both digital and analog realms, with the exception of that chip shortage....
@mantashaft
@mantashaft 2 года назад
Yes the chip and tube shortage is a cloud on this golden age… but it is golden for sure
@mikemorgan4774
@mikemorgan4774 2 года назад
I searched hard for my Fulltone SupaTrem pedal. I treated myself to something special from what was, at the time, a fledgling boutique pedal company. I paid way more than I had for any other pedal. But, it was a very early hand-built prototype. Unfortunately, about a month later I stepped on it too hard, and stripped the threads off of one of the pots. No biggie, but beyond my limited skills to repair. So I called the company and somehow talked directly to Mike. I remember it was he who picked up the call. Maybe he was the only one working there at the time? I asked him would it be possible to send it to him for repair at my expense, or could I just buy the part from him and have it shipped. He said he couldn't help me, and I really had no business bothering him with bullshit like this. He never got any more of my money.
@Ponabarte
@Ponabarte 2 года назад
"a rude pedal builder with bad customer service" 😬
@hectorayalasolivan7465
@hectorayalasolivan7465 2 года назад
Hi! I am a "boutique" pedal maker. I run a small business out of my garage, I sell pedals on order, as well as produce a standard line that I sell to local music shops. When I first started I would try to avoid the term boutique as much as possible, but I have embraced it as of late. I just make sure that my "boutique" focus is on good tone on a customer-by-customer basis, as well as art that they truly enjoy seeing on their boards. I have so much fun doing this, I hope it doesn't die. For me it's not even about the money, it's about the interactions with different people.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 2 года назад
I think Mike is going to do just that Small and big business does well but middle status is very hard His mission statement going forward is home studio in Nashville and maybe small runs What state do you work out of ??
@daydreamerpedals6800
@daydreamerpedals6800 2 года назад
Dude same. I just got started 4 months ago, started with repairs and mods. I've met some wonderful people in just a short amount of time.
@CarolMatzPiano
@CarolMatzPiano 2 года назад
It doesn't die as long as you do it! You may need to have another source of income in order to sustain it thru transitional times, but keep at it!
@hectorayalasolivan7465
@hectorayalasolivan7465 2 года назад
@@paulcowart3174 Huntsville, Alabama
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 2 года назад
@@hectorayalasolivan7465 have a website ??
@Enduringrevery
@Enduringrevery 2 года назад
I love all the history ! You should totally make a posters with your era’s breakdown! I’d hang it in my studio!
@lyleanderson5407
@lyleanderson5407 2 года назад
He's moving and semi- retiring to enjoy his golden years. Fulltone makes some amazing pedals with outstanding quality.
@bryanlewis9575
@bryanlewis9575 2 года назад
Josh, you are a class act! Thank you for a great, informative look at the evolution of the pedal world!
@cartoonvillains7080
@cartoonvillains7080 2 года назад
This live perfectly encapsulates why I follow and watch all your videos. Informative, fun, philosophical without being cork sniffy. Looking forward to Wednesday 🤘🏻
@cassdobbins1605
@cassdobbins1605 2 года назад
I feel like this is more a lesson in marketing than an indicator of a market shift away from boutique pedals. JHS, OBNE, Mythos, Wampler, Walrus, and a bunch of others have laid the blueprints for customer and community interaction in the modern era. You never saw Fulltone doing anything remotely similar. So, for me at least, it makes sense that they wouldn't be doing so well.
@Tony-Jabroni
@Tony-Jabroni 2 года назад
+ fulltones long storied history of bad customer service and general jerkiness.
@3Torts
@3Torts 2 года назад
We'll see how your feelings play out with the continued redistribution of our FIAT medium of exchange.
@3Torts
@3Torts 2 года назад
@@Tony-Jabroni and quality products
@unic0de-yvr
@unic0de-yvr 2 года назад
oh god, everything is just crypto discourse huh cool
@Tony-Jabroni
@Tony-Jabroni 2 года назад
@@3Torts no arguing that they made quality products. I’ve owned em for a long time, and have no plan on selling. 🕺🏻
@chiselcheswick5673
@chiselcheswick5673 2 года назад
Could we say Boutique is more personalised? I think JHS is maybe an example of a company in between pure boutique and say Boss, where the pedals have a personal feel to them but using more mass production techniques (and the benefits of them).
@chrisk.9752
@chrisk.9752 2 года назад
Great talk. I think the way you explained everything made sense. In my opinion this metaphorically signifies the end of the boutique era, but that does not mean the boutique side of the pedal industry is literally ending. I think there will always be a boutique market, even if it becomes much more niche. Thank you for doing these talks and preserving history.
@TheTubeDude
@TheTubeDude 2 года назад
Thanks Josh. I'm an old guy. For me it's saddening that Fulltone is over. I have many early Fulltone pedals.
@kidgloves2
@kidgloves2 7 месяцев назад
Fulltone is back! I hope Mike puts out new pedals in addition to his older ones. The Deja Vibe mkii is the best sounding vibe out there. Not to take away from the JHS vibe pedal. JHS obviously makes sick pedals or else I wouldn’t be here.
@BarqB
@BarqB 6 месяцев назад
True! Fulltone is Back!
@rawknbearbell7032
@rawknbearbell7032 2 года назад
My Deja Vibe is my favorite pedal overall. That said, I haven't jived with many other Fulltone pedals...But I've only played a few. The cases are indestructible. I'm sure it was getting hard to turn a profit. It will be interesting to see what happens with the brand
@petebrown8145
@petebrown8145 2 года назад
I just sold my Deja Vibe. We’ll built pedal but not for me. Sincerely hope it suits the new owner’s board.
@NebulaStudios1
@NebulaStudios1 2 года назад
Excellent presentation and overview. You hit the nail on the head with the term "True Bypass." I came in playing guitar in the late 60s and really took off in the 80s. I was living in Maryland in the 90s when Fuller hit. I shopped and hung out at Venneman's music, Victor Litz, and Wheaton Music. All local stores. The word came down "True Bypass" was the way to true tone. Boss was out. At the same time none of us (at least in my group of friends) knew what we were doing with respect to pedal order, power supplies, or cables. So much was magazines and word of mouth. I could look down any given night and see what my brother called the Electric Train Set of maybe 10-15 pedals powered by Radio Schack adapters on multiple Sears Roebucks power strips. Talk about tone suck and line buzz. So True Bypass was seen as the way. My first Fuller pedal was a project box 69 Fuzz, which I still own. Positive Tip so only batteries back then. Then wah, then Full Drive into Full Drive 10th Anniversary. Great stuff. When we started to learn more it was all about Pete Cornish. How do we get or build a rig like that? I am a HUGE Grateful Dead fan, so it was all about Jerry Garcia. I still have all the paper articles on what he was using and until the internet never knew how things were connected. Then it was strip it down. Just two pedals. Then it would build back up to 15 with the Ernie Ball volume pedal. All the articles said, don't use that unless it's modified. I have been fortunate enough to be able to afford these things and enjoy them. The information and products available today are amazing. Shows like JHS and TPS in England are the best and truly I have more respect for the companies when you can see who is behind them. I can't say enough good things about the JHS Unicorn and Panther. When I see these shows I am reminded of the days long ago sitting in my basement with friends, amps, guitars, and effects just hooking things up and playing at deafening volumes as the whole house reverberated. Good times.
@grahamnunn8998
@grahamnunn8998 2 года назад
As always, you and Nathan are the most eloquent on the subject. I find it amazing that any company hand-building pedals can keep going.
@jeremiahMc11
@jeremiahMc11 2 года назад
I wonder if the next era will be : Waitlist Era : Small batch builders specializing in one or only a few pedals. Im looking at places like Dan Drive, 1981 Inventions, and smaller places like BookWorm Effects and Basic Audio. I love that those guys love doing just a few things and focus on that.
@pimcramer2569
@pimcramer2569 2 года назад
I think it will be the DIY era
@TedSchoenling
@TedSchoenling 2 года назад
Not even kidding, no pedal is worth the wait that some builders have... only if you worship mojo....
@jeremiahMc11
@jeremiahMc11 2 года назад
@@pimcramer2569 oh ya, that’s a good point as well. Maybe 2030?
@DontWorryImAPilot
@DontWorryImAPilot 2 года назад
I have one of those pedals. It's the Quiet Theory Prelude. Not really a "waitlist" pedal...more like the "refresh the webstore" era.
@jasunhayhurst6975
@jasunhayhurst6975 2 года назад
Talon Electric doing "The Hog" pedal comes to mind. Killer pedal, almost always sells out instantly
@traceyoungs1637
@traceyoungs1637 2 года назад
That was really cool Josh- I absolutely love the historical perspective you have on things & I appreciate you sharing these thoughts ✌️
@kangaroofoot
@kangaroofoot 2 года назад
I hadn’t seen your videos in a long time. It’s nice to see that you’re just as passionate - if not more - than you were in the beginning. I loved this video, thank you for doing what you do.
@jhspedals
@jhspedals 2 года назад
Welcome back!
@kangaroofoot
@kangaroofoot 2 года назад
@@jhspedals Much appreciated!
@project_louder
@project_louder 2 года назад
Great talk, I really enjoyed your broad take on the evolution of the pedal market. My feeling is that one of the factors driving pedals in the future is the ease of use and new sonic possibilities with instruments other than the guitar - i.e. drum machines, synths. In fact, I’d love if you made a video about that.
@JeighNeither
@JeighNeither 2 года назад
Mike ran his company badly, & then after his most recent issues cost him half his customers, he quit. Hot take, but there are actually TOO MANY boutique pedal makers. Everyone & their dog is building pedals these days, & those that can't succeed, go out of business, that's how a free market works. When there are too many of something, & too small a demand, prices fall & companies fail. I seriously wish I would have picked up their mini Univibe w/the treadle when I had the chance though; it's already unattainably priced.
@3Torts
@3Torts 2 года назад
LOL. We haven't lived in a "free" market for 50+ years.
@werewolfmedialv
@werewolfmedialv 2 года назад
Totally, say stupid things, win stupid prizes!
@mleon1958
@mleon1958 2 года назад
Glad I got mine when I did!
@dragonpundit.6443
@dragonpundit.6443 2 года назад
Nope. Completely bullshit
@dragonpundit.6443
@dragonpundit.6443 2 года назад
Wokeass leftist nonsense killed him
@bubbahotep5439
@bubbahotep5439 2 года назад
Started buying Fulltone pedals when you had to call and talk to mike or someone else to find a local dealer. Mike was always knowledgeable, helpful, and quick to respond to questions via phone or email. Love your histories, and talks about all things about pedal timelines and their evolution. The TGP villagers are still carrying torches for Mike, Mason, and even you Josh, but only when your back is turned. Troglodyte Gear Pansies is what that truly are!
@joserdiazalmodovar1898
@joserdiazalmodovar1898 2 года назад
I have the most respect and admiration for Gentleman like you and youre peers in the Guitar Effects Design¡ You People make millions of Guitar Players Happy around the World so thanks a lot ¡🙏🎸✌
@matthewdancik5515
@matthewdancik5515 2 года назад
Josh, you are a gentleman and scholar, never stop being you. 500 years from now, your efforts here will still be influencing generations of musicians no matter what form music takes on. This information will always be relevant and so will your brand, which goes WAY BEYOND the product. You and all those behind you making this possible is the real product... the sales of the pedal is just a means to an end allowing you and everyone else to influence the world in a far greater way than just pressing a button to activate a searing lead tone. Though that too is important, who doesn't love a searing lead tone, am I right?! 😜😂🥰 Thank You!!!
@sparks3019
@sparks3019 2 года назад
Thanks for making this commentary, Josh. I smile every time I kick in my Morning Glory V2 feeding my Fulltone Distortion Pro.
@DavidFell
@DavidFell 2 года назад
So glad to get this additional history lesson, after being present for your Fretboard Summit talk. (but the guy who put a reverb tank on his guitar got robbed by not winning 😂) I know nothing about the controversy about Mike; I have 3 of his pedals in my very small collection. I almost asked you about this news in Chicago, so thanks for the thorough coverage today. If you haven’t be already made one, I’d like a video elaborating on pros and cons of true bypass.
@ralvknights
@ralvknights 2 года назад
A million thumbs up. Thank you Josh for doing this historic summit lecture on pedals, since pedals have set many of us free from being limited in our sonic explorations. My best musical friend and twin soul brother has said to me "Pedals are infinite in tone possibilities, you just combine them with different amps and other pedals (and guitars) and there seems to be no limits". The Digital revolution combined with the tone quality of organic pedal circuits is a happy place to be at. Keep rocking JHS pedals. This episode made me formulate a question for you Josh. It would be very valuable for us pedal nerds to have an episode with you going deep into telling which of your pedals you are most proud and feel that there is some tone happening that you created out of being very thorough in details. Put modesty aside for it and share your triumphs with us. It will be like having an insight tour guide to check your Pedal History Glories( morning glory jumps in mind). Hope you keep JHS going forward and where ever there is a dream for more tone options inside of guitar players there is need for a new pedal creation to give us the cure. A Fuzz Workstation with presets and Oscilation options plus other goodies comes to mind. Give us a Fuzz Galaxy. Join forces with all the fuzz gurus. Fuzz is a live thing that feels magical to play with.
@LPCustom3
@LPCustom3 Год назад
I’ve known Mike for 30 years! I’ve never had any issues with him and I wired up a lot of Fulldrives back in the mid-late 90’s which helped me get some things going(like the Rangemasters I built between 1997 to 2010. I wish Mike only the best!
@sgblues4238
@sgblues4238 2 года назад
Fulltone closing is not indicative of any change in the boutique pedal market. He lost Guitar Center as a customer and I’m sure that was more than his business could bear. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mike shutdown Fulltone but then turned around and started making small batch custom shop runs under a new name.
@sparks3019
@sparks3019 2 года назад
But he has Sweetwater…
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 2 года назад
Exactly what he is doing Going to Nashville Small batches and a home studio Screw California
@Ottophil
@Ottophil 2 года назад
@@paulcowart3174 california is the future of america. Don’t like it? Leave
@wordragon
@wordragon 2 года назад
@@Ottophil -Your facts are really just opinions in disguise...
@ShreddingFinn
@ShreddingFinn 2 года назад
@@Ottophil uhh not exactly...
@jomarthegreat1
@jomarthegreat1 2 года назад
I don't think boutique is over per se, but I think a leveling of the playing field might be happening. A similar thing is happening in the world of Eurorack synth modules (Mutable Instruments, WMD, to name a couple) but the difference there is that Emilie at Mutable made her stuff open source, so the designs will live on. There's always going to be a market for "less popular" brands that aren't mega conglomerates like Boss or Ibanez.
@patricklemire9278
@patricklemire9278 2 года назад
Can you sell 300,000 of one overdrive, have 30 employees and still be “boutique”? There needs to be another category Galactique.
@nayaleezy
@nayaleezy 2 года назад
I mean, Mike wasn't wrong.
@YOutsider
@YOutsider Год назад
he made the mistake of voicing his personal opinions at the expense of his brand.
@CarlosCruz-ox9wc
@CarlosCruz-ox9wc Год назад
Nope. It would be a lot easier to make them if the distributors didn't choose not to work with him anymore. He can try to blame it on whatever he wants, but it is largely his own fault
@newgunguy4176
@newgunguy4176 6 месяцев назад
...... aaaaaand, he's back!!!!! #phucdaprissyboys
@Aarlog
@Aarlog 2 года назад
Excluding all the political stuff from the equation was a bad call tbh. Before his comments on the BLM protests, Mike Fuller was in about as good a spot as any "boutique" pedal maker could dream of being in. But he couldn't keep his opinions to himself and HAD to let the world know - not on his personal accounts mind you, but on Fulltone's official FB page - and it cost him half his retail presence. Like it or not, consumers these days pay attention to that kind of thing, and in markets like pedals with a LOT of competition, they can just as easily look elsewhere for their overdrive/uni-vibe/etc. needs and not support someone who uses their brand to push their own political agenda. There are a LOT of people who don't want to support people with the views Mike espoused, and when these controversies pop up, people will see retailers continuing to do business with them as indirectly supporting the people in question. And retailers know that. Mike effectively threw all of his retail partners under the bus over a single FB post, and for that he's seeing the consequences.
@maskedmarauder3278
@maskedmarauder3278 2 года назад
Digital has opened the door to effects that are currently impossible to create any other way. It also allows getting effects much cheaper and with multiple functions and modes. Analog is still with us, it isn't an either-or situation, we can enjoy both.
@officialmetalwill
@officialmetalwill 2 года назад
Digital pedals suck. Plain and simple. They ALL sound like complete shit. 0's and 1's will never be able to replicate the tones of analog pedals.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 2 года назад
@@officialmetalwill with guitars, yea.....but with keyboards, digital pedals are great
@jhspedals
@jhspedals 2 года назад
@@officialmetalwill this just isn't true. We've shown over and over again that more often than not, people can't even tell the difference between digital and analog. Here's a really great example: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HSu1pWot2Cg.html
@maskedmarauder3278
@maskedmarauder3278 2 года назад
@@officialmetalwill Your loss. You are free to stay acoustic if you want. Use a rock to hit a tree to make beautiful, pure, music. You sound like the guy defending horses against cars. A horse can be better than a car unless you want to go faster or further than a horse can manage. Analog equipment minimizes what sounds you can make and record. Every sound that is recorded or processed has been irreparably altered. Amplifying a sound or using any tonal remedy creates the same shit you worry about. Music must be live without any electrical reinforcement to remain pure. The tiny difference in sound quality between the two is ever shrinking, while the ability of the artist continues to make the largest statement in music appreciation. Blaming equipment is the easy way out.
@colsontowingllc3309
@colsontowingllc3309 2 года назад
@@jhspedals you talk about mason vertex video several times...why no have him on the show???
@guitarz
@guitarz 2 года назад
History is very important to discuss ... for better or worse history needs to continue to be taught and talked about and this video is a great marker in time and discussion as to why....
@bpatts1652
@bpatts1652 2 года назад
Thanks Josh.... enjoyed this very much!!
@ShiningTrapezoid
@ShiningTrapezoid 2 года назад
"It's with a heavy heart that I leave all of these loyal employees that are like family without a job... so anyway I bought a 17 acre world-class recording studio in Nashville! Pretty cool huh?" Wonder if he was telling people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps while he was getting his ppp loans.
@mikegutterman3427
@mikegutterman3427 2 года назад
To me Zvex was the first boutique I remember seeing in my local stores and he is definitely still boutique. Death By Audio might be a more modern example as well.
@user-of1tx7ls9o
@user-of1tx7ls9o 2 года назад
I have something special for you 🎊🎮🎉✅..
@markbois1713
@markbois1713 2 года назад
Watch out it's probably not JHS with something special for you it's probably a scam especially if they want you to pay shipping and they use telegram.
@essghee149
@essghee149 Год назад
I believe that the desire for boutique pedals comes from the need to feel connected and special, for want of a better word. Not just a customer of a faceless corp. JHS may not be boutique by your definition but it feels that way and a lot of that is because of the connection and expression of the personality of the company largely through your YT channel. The fact that you also talk about other companies and pedal history shows that love/live what you’re doing and not existing just to sell a product.
@Danny_da_Gearho
@Danny_da_Gearho 2 года назад
Josh, you are the first guitarist other than myself that I have come across to make the hot wheels connection. The obsession with not only the function but the form, the consistency and the economics. Pedals are hot wheels for kids that grew up to play guitar! I'm up to about 230 pedals myself! I'd ask if you know a good therapist but having 4,000 plus pedals probably means you don't. Fulltone builds great pedals and I own somewhere around 15 fulltone pedals myself. Built extremely well and sound fabulous! True boutique probably will not ever die not unlike the blues. There is something earthy and mysterious about it. We all want something unique and hard to find. There will always be someone who wants to build it by hand and someone who wants to buy it. If it sounds good, they will come. It will price a lot of players out of the market because it's only going to get more expensive to buy.
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 2 года назад
And "the box" just like Hot Wheels!
@gwugluud
@gwugluud 2 года назад
Part of what causes me to choose to buy a piece of gear is the way it looks, lol.
@stevenvandemsky7290
@stevenvandemsky7290 2 года назад
@@gwugluud Looks are very important. Inside it’s just some transistors, resistors and capacitors - not very sexy. But the housing, the build quality, the colors, the labeling, the whole design of that small box - that’s what sets it apart!
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 2 года назад
@@briankehew579 I care about boxes for my pedals way more than Hot Wheels packaging. You can take your pedal out of the box and play with it, if your Hot Wheels are still in the package you might just be a reseller.
@Big_Bag_of_Pus
@Big_Bag_of_Pus 2 года назад
Even with your definition of a "boutique maker," it seems to me like that's a phase that all makers go through when they start. When a maker starts, they start small and do everything by hand and ae driven by enthusiasm, because they *can't* do it any other way. So to me, the question "is the boutique era dead?" is like asking "is it impossible to create a new, viable pedal company?" And that's a business/economics question. Mike's statement suggested that he can't make the economics work, and you corroborated that it's a valid point -- that it's hard for JHS. I think *that's* where the conversation should go. Why is it hard to make the numbers work in the pedal biz? A video about that would be instructive. Maybe rope in other makers, especially very small ones like Champion Leccy or Montreal Assembly who are facing those issues at that level.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 2 года назад
Yeah was was used years ago to differentiate from Boss...Ibanez and those other big brands but he eventually got fairly big
@MuggsyStyle
@MuggsyStyle 2 года назад
I imagine over saturation plays a part. how many tube screamer clones does a species need?
@disclabdisclab2595
@disclabdisclab2595 2 года назад
@@MuggsyStyle Just one more . . . like collecting wine.
@howardmaryon
@howardmaryon 2 года назад
These Monday talks are perfect for delving into thoughts and topics that do not have a place in the normal, more fun output, and allow for going into detail about important aspects of pedal history. Probably more interesting to collectors, but an overview of the industry is valuable coming from someone who is working in it every day. Please keep going with these.
@iggymcgeek730
@iggymcgeek730 2 года назад
Why are you stating the obvious? This is why he is doing it.
@DS-nw4eq
@DS-nw4eq 2 года назад
This is his marketing. Also, he needs to get off RU-vid and design pedals. All JHS does now is reissue other people's work.
@PetefromSouthOz
@PetefromSouthOz 2 года назад
Thanks Josh. This event and your discussion about it is the sort of thing that still interests me from the Historical, Sociological, and Economic Philosophy perspectives (I am 66 years of age). I am sure that sounds over the top but my interest relates to my own music history. I grew up in Brisbane (city), Queensland (state), Australia. (still in Australia just a different part) It was the late 60's to the early 80's when I was in my teens to early 20's. I remember hearing The Kinks "You really Got Me" and then The Stones "Satisfaction" and Hendrix's version of "All along the Watchtower and I was drawn in. I gravitated to "alternate" Music and went to see live Bands that slowly starting to emerge against the Disco thing. Music and Politics was a big thing in my life and in the life of a lot my friends and peers. Through this I then heard MC5 and the Stooges and this opened up a whole new soundscape of music that has never left me. As part of that I was in my local Pub (called a Bar in the US) in 1976 and a mate came in with a 45rpm record in his hand shouting "it's out". He was referring to The Saints "I'm Stranded/No Time " single. We used to go to their House/Rehearsal space aka Club 76 for parties. Very Loud music in small venues was the thing for a small number of people in Brisbane back then. As a lot of Musical Historians have written, it sparked a pretty big reaction and numerous Bands formed and was part of a similar thing in the US and the UK. I was asked to join a band despite the fact I could not play an instrument. It was fun and mad and short lived. But I noticed by then I was much better at knowing who was playing what than I ever was at playing bass lol. This has been the case ever since. Fast forward to the last few years and when I retired from work I decided to learn how to play Electric Guitar, and with my attraction to Distorted sounds, lead me to Pedals and I got interested in them. In the past Pedals were a rare thing for us, it was usually cranked Amps. Recently I discovered the Pedal that our Guitarist/Band Leader used was iconic. It was a Systech Harmonic Energizer. and it sounded amazing through his cranked Brownface Concert Amp. I also learned that "The Saints" Ed Kuepper used the MXR Distortion Plus on the first record, the Mastero Fuzztone was the sound on Satisfaction, Ron Asheton used Tonebenders etc etc. So I discovered your channel about the same time as my renewed Guitar journey. I really like the history and tech clarification content, and this is why I'm watching this vid. Ok now my thoughts on this topic. For me anything Boutique has always meant highly specialised, Handmade and therefore expensive. I'd also say that Guitar Pedals in general are a relatively Niche thing and so the Handmade Pedal is a very small part of a Niche Market. The issue that impacts anything in a Capitalist Economy including Guitar Pedals is profitability based on supply and demand. I'd say the massive COVID disruption to the supply/demand interaction had a big impact on the "Boutique" Pedal Industry. There is also broader systemic economic factors like flat wage growth that results in less disposable income. This effects demand. Then another thing connecting this stuff to Fulltone, as you pointed out Josh, there was no internet when Mike Fuller started. Given that historical fact, a lot of criticism about comments made in the past pre internet make no sense to me (that is a topic in itself), but it's apparent that they may have influenced others consumer choices more recently, and could also effect demand. Combine those factors and it is no surprise that a company like Fulltone is no longer economically viable without a large amount of reserve Capital in the future. Do I think the Boutique Era is over, yes I do. That said the Handmade pedal industry probably will continue as others have said. My best guess is it will be small, without much continuity as far as "Brands". Look forward to next week's episode.
@jhspedals
@jhspedals 2 года назад
Beautiful thoughts!
@sargentppeper
@sargentppeper 2 года назад
Well said and explained Josh!👍🏼 I’m happy I kept my 96 fiesta red Fulldrive 2. What a great pedal! 🎸
@stratosexual1329
@stratosexual1329 2 года назад
Thank you keeping this positive!
@oansun
@oansun 2 года назад
"don't argue about Fulltone, even though the two things might be pretty well connected 🙃🙃"
@DanielMedina-ri9xn
@DanielMedina-ri9xn 2 года назад
Definitely the end of an era. I've owned Fulltone pedals since 2005 and several of them are still on my main pedalboard. Great stuff made by musicians for musicians, following a musical philosophy. My view is the market is demanding and paying for different attributes for their pedals, so it's sad in a way. But Mike had a good 30 years and he and his company will always be icons in the history of the musical instruments.
@bobrg1459
@bobrg1459 2 года назад
Thanks for another engaging, scholarly, discussion. Among my first pedals were several Fulltones. I hav some original-run Fulldrives, a v1 OCD, a V1'69 , and a project box/label-maker Soul Bender (an ear-changing pedal!). I will forever be in debt to Mike Fuller for making sounds that moved me. BTW, I don't think we were lied to about digital sucking. Twenty to 25 years ago digital did suck. It has really improved and now many DSP effects are very good to excellent (IMHO). They make things possible that were very difficult or impossible with discrete components and early ICs. I don't think boutique is dead as long as there is Analogman!
@user-of1tx7ls9o
@user-of1tx7ls9o 2 года назад
I have something special for you 🎊🎮🎉✅...
@LeStraTele
@LeStraTele 2 года назад
I have a few Fulltone pedals. They are well made and sound great. I hope he figures out a way to keep going. Mike's opinions and beliefs are his. They shouldn't cause so much controversy. It's okay to disagree with people.
@secretagent4610
@secretagent4610 Год назад
Not according to libtards!
@chaseobassmusic
@chaseobassmusic Год назад
It’s okay to disagree with people, absolutely. It’s also okay to choose not to support people based on their morals. Both sides of the coin are completely valid, and if Mike opines himself out of business, that’s not his customers’ fault, or the market’s, or anyone’s but his alone.
@Texasbluesalley
@Texasbluesalley 2 года назад
I appreciate your ability to separate your feelings for the person and the products. A 30 year run as an independent smallish company in this industry is worthy of respect and study, even if the personalities involved are.... not great.
@williamhawkins69
@williamhawkins69 Год назад
I’m not sure I completely agree about DSP. I had a Zoom 9030 for many years in 1990s to about 10 years ago. I was happy enough but struggled with bedroom set up transferring to stage. One night playing at church during the holidays I just plugged my PRS straight into my MB calibre 22 and was astonished by the exquite tone. It was from then I started my journey back to pedals and true bypass. The pendulum has swung back a little bit with various digital modulation pedals that blend the digital and analogue signal but my gain pedals are mostly analogue. I’m just now come to grips with with buffers. I don’t feel lied to about digital, I came to my own conclusions using my ears. I’m still struggling to find a gain pedal that I’m completely happy with but that’s another story. I’ve been playing for 50 years. I only wish we had RU-vid and teachers like yourself in the 70’s. You, Brian and Mike and Dan have taught me so much. Thank.
@daveferrato3371
@daveferrato3371 2 года назад
Have not ever commented but have enjoyed your perspective for the last year or two. I am (now) a professional rock guitarist/vocalist at 71 after again out of my day job careers in publishing, advertising, PR and a couple years as guitar store owner in the mid 80s. I have owned pedals in all of the seven eras you defined. Threw mine away(! ) from the Genesis era when it was un cool to use pedals and straight into Marshalls was all that mattered. Had one amp and one guitar for 40 years --now have 40 amps not sure how many guitars and pedals on two boards that I use weekly, with some from I believe every era. Also use a Space Echo for some shows. I am blessed to play in projects where I get to create keyboard and string parts, and many pedals only see use on a single song, but as long as I can still haul the stuff I will. In any case thanks for your passion and dedication to your craft and to your audience.
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 2 года назад
I am just NOW getting into this so ... yeah! This era is coming to an end! 😆
@rikkydavidson1762
@rikkydavidson1762 2 года назад
Josh is an era
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 2 года назад
@@rikkydavidson1762 who wouldn't want to work at JHS? :)
@markmarcelo9342
@markmarcelo9342 2 года назад
I don't know if you can divorce the ethics from the business side. I loved my OCD, but when Mike started spouting sentiments I couldn't tolerate, I took it off my board and bought 2 other pedals from different companies to find a replacement before landing on a whole new dirt section that I enjoy more. If he didn't pop off the way i did, i probably would have continued to upgrade to the germanium edition.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 2 года назад
That's the problem about social media You need to think before you type but I feel bad about him getting persecuted for his opinion although I'm not sure what he said Better to keep your opinion to yourself these days
@tball5677
@tball5677 2 года назад
What he said wasn't wrong
@stanknugget
@stanknugget 2 года назад
I genuinely don’t know. What was he saying?
@srdjr6760
@srdjr6760 2 года назад
@@stanknugget He was complaining about unchecked arson and looting during the BLM riots of 2020. That was it.
@clayblondin4356
@clayblondin4356 2 года назад
The OCD is grainy and brittle. The rat literally sounds better
@RagdollOC
@RagdollOC 2 года назад
I would love to have a Fulltone tube echoplex. I could not justify the price, for me, but I would like one.
@danmar007
@danmar007 2 года назад
Sorry to hear that. They made some excellent pedals.
@uponcripplecreek1
@uponcripplecreek1 2 года назад
I love my OCD, Soul Bender, 69mkii, Full Drive 2mf, Plimsoul, and Fat Boost 3! I know that Mike has some significant personality issues but the fact is he makes great pedals. I at least appreciate that in his statement, he said not to feel sorry for him and acknowledged that he had made many mistakes. That’s more than most Ahole people are willing to do these days. I will keep using my pedals because they are awesome...just like I still listen to Chuck Berry because his music is awesome. I still listen to Phil Spector’s work too. I probably wouldn’t ever buy a new pedal from him again. I recently fell in love with an Xotic SL Drive, I love all the easy to access internal dip switches, maybe I have found a new favorite pedal company.
@druwk
@druwk 2 года назад
Just picked up an OCD 1.7, and it IS the Overdrive I’ve been looking for. Sounds great in front of many amps, and can carve out many great gain levels. Cleans up great with volume roll off. Plays well with others… The controversies aside, grateful for Fultone and Mike’s uncompromising vision and energy.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 2 года назад
Great stuff Ozzy is leaving Cali as well
@itchyvinyl
@itchyvinyl 2 года назад
I just got a 1.7 from Craigslist today for $85. The prices elsewhere have already jumped past $300. I like it better than the 1.4 I used to have.
@GMLineRat
@GMLineRat 2 года назад
"Just picked up an OCD 1.7, and it IS the Overdrive I’ve been looking for". You and me both. I bought my OCD 1.7 3 weeks ago, then added a Clyde Deluxe wah and Mini Deja-Vibe a week later...all before the buying hysteria started
@GMLineRat
@GMLineRat 2 года назад
@@itchyvinyl sales on Reverb of used Fulltone products are thru the roof right now.
@brainsplosion3000
@brainsplosion3000 2 года назад
digital pedals will fight us in a dystopian robot war
@TheMetal750
@TheMetal750 Год назад
Thanks for the deep dives Josh. It also allows me to just listen like a podcast while working rather than have to sit and watch for content.
@WyseAudioDevices
@WyseAudioDevices 2 года назад
As a student of the game myself, I really appreciate your dedication to the history and timelines that go along with the circuits. There is so much to be learned as a builder besides the electronics themselves.
@ishancooper
@ishancooper 2 года назад
In this day and age you just can’t separate a company, their ethics and the experiences you have around them. They’re definitely not mutually exclusive. With so many other companies making great gear, creating positive experiences, and building inclusive and creative communities .. the era of companies like Fulltone is gone.
@HashiAkitaPuppy
@HashiAkitaPuppy 2 года назад
"building inclusive and creative communities" WTF are you on about, i buy a pedal because it does what I want it to do. If not I don't buy it. I don't give 2 sh!tz about community and if I claimed I did, I would be full of it just like you are. I'm sure you have an iPhone or other tech that was made with materials unethically sourced and put together by sl4ve labor. Fuller made pedals, some good, some not so good and now it's over.
@fender0942
@fender0942 2 года назад
Every video I see about full tone they bring up Mike Fuller and he and his ethics. I have seen some examples of poor ethics from Mike but I’ve also seen some examples of great ethics as well. I’ve personally had some interactions with him that were very pleasant. I just think he was a ruthless businessman. His products speak for themselves. His comment that got him canceled I thought was spot on. At the time nobody wanted to say the truth of what was happening in our country but Mike had the guts to say it.kudos for that. The enemies that Mike made seemed to be by his doing. I never had both sides of the story but it did seem that he was ignorant at times to many people. The guy could build a pedal though. I’m sure there are things that have happened I just don’t know about so maybe I’m a little naïve to certain things. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes.
@keithschwartzmusic9461
@keithschwartzmusic9461 2 года назад
You are showing some palpable grief over this situation and its clearly not contrived - thanks for being real, Josh.
@aldersmoke1
@aldersmoke1 2 года назад
Where I live, I know of at least one major local guitar shop that stopped carrying Fulltone because of the things the owner said during the Floyd protests/riots; the guy didn't just lose Guitar Center. I'm absolutely NOT here to debate his politics, but given how many customers he lost over his statements, I don't think Fulltone can be used as a bellwether for the industry in general, nor can the fact of that PR fiasco be left out of discussions as to why it failed. What I will say is that there are arguably too many "boutique" builders in the marketplace, especially given the current plethora of low cost options, and this just frees up space for them. I would personally like to see things shift to where builders have to actually come up with new, innovative ideas instead of just putting out the umpteen thousandth fuzz/overdrive/reverb/etc.
@thebadterrorists5323
@thebadterrorists5323 2 года назад
"Stand up to woke go broke" heh? He should never have apologised.
@aldersmoke1
@aldersmoke1 2 года назад
@@thebadterrorists5323 Couldn't help yourself, could you?
@gitarboi6760
@gitarboi6760 2 года назад
There was a time where when I went to a show and spied the guitar players’s pedal board there was always a fulltone Pedal or pedals on it. With fulltone Closing it is most certainly the end of an error
@honkytonkinson9787
@honkytonkinson9787 2 года назад
When I started guitar in the 90s I only knew of a handful of pedal companies: EH, boss, dod and digitech, mxr, Danelectro, zoom… there wasn’t any expensive boutique stuff available as far as I knew. I started hearing about analog man, zvex, and fulltone in the early 2000s; they definitely changed the market!
@rhesreeves5339
@rhesreeves5339 2 года назад
It's like this content was designed for me the way JHS and the other makers mentioned design pedals, with a lot of work and care. Thank you Josh for being the guy who does so much to educate. Watching JHS Pedals enhances the experience of owning or buying Any pedal. I'm neutral about Fulltone, the brand. What is, is. I'm just here to learn but I don't think anyone could make an argument that Fulltone closing isn't historically significant if they'd seen as many rigs as I did in my 30 year long career. It was all Boss and Electro-Harmonix then a sea of Fulltone. You had to have 3 at least. Wow. End of an era.
@ranian02
@ranian02 2 года назад
Not talking about the enemies Mike from Fulltone made and the things he said is not only erasing a part of history but also ignoring something that may have been a factor in the company’s closing. A few nice pedals does not make up for those comments.
@nicholsonfile
@nicholsonfile 2 года назад
Why do we choose to minimize hatred to highlight hardware?
@bluepedalsrock9271
@bluepedalsrock9271 2 года назад
There’s plenty guitar based drama channels on RU-vid. JHS is a chill space.
@bluepedalsrock9271
@bluepedalsrock9271 2 года назад
@@stoneysdead689 Find me a JHS video where he speaks very poorly about a pedal builder. That’s simply not what this channel is about. You can easily find that type of content. Just not here.
@nicholsonfile
@nicholsonfile 2 года назад
@@bluepedalsrock9271 Yeah, Josh's silence on important issues related to music/pedal history is suuuuper conspicuous. I see it as willful ignorance.
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 Год назад
What did he say that was so bad?
@twenty3electronics
@twenty3electronics 2 года назад
The importance of Prescription Electronics to early boutique pedals always gets overlooked imo
@MattWhatsGoinOn
@MattWhatsGoinOn 2 года назад
I have completed my assessment of the content of your video and have come to the realization that it’s given me gas.
@doctorsynth1
@doctorsynth1 2 года назад
"sad divorced dad apartment" - lol, that's where I live. I love how much thought you've put into this topic, and I'm learning a lot from your experience and knowledge.
@VesiustheBoneCruncher
@VesiustheBoneCruncher 2 года назад
There are so many really good budget pedals covering pretty much every base. I think this is changing things significantly. I think the market is somewhat splitting down the middle - people who want EHX or down prices, and people who want something far more. I think the middle ground is going, because it struggles to offer more. Why would I pay boutique tube screamer prices for example, when I can get one for $20 from Behringer? If I want a nicer case, I don’t have to pay much more. There are in some cases slight sonic differences, but it’s very subjective as to what sounds better. It’s like this through the market. High end *can* do more with prices to match, and some people want to get into collecting, so that market is fine too. But I think the middle ground is in trouble.
@Patrick-857
@Patrick-857 Год назад
TC Electronic is a perfect example. Very difficult to compete with what they offer.
@robblazik7185
@robblazik7185 2 года назад
Just a thought, could the controversy that he was involved in be the cause of the declined revenue of the company and not less interest in that type of product?
@Trentstone121
@Trentstone121 2 года назад
You nailed it! Every other pedal builder is keeping the doors open. The only one to publically support the right is closing. Good riddance. I guess Ted Nugent isn't inspiring a lot of right wing kids to pick up the guitar. Who knew? Lol. Everybody.
@uncleswan3896
@uncleswan3896 2 года назад
“If I see you with a Fulltone pedal I will tag it and break into your house and loot it from you because it’s my free expression to do so.” his remarks are why the guy's business went under
@dumbguy9386
@dumbguy9386 2 года назад
I think the thing about "hand built" is long term repairability. Provided it hasn't been gooped up it's actually possible to fix things in a way that wave soldered surface mount boards are not.
@khimbittle7705
@khimbittle7705 Год назад
Very interesting! Still not sure how the old and current electroharonix fits into this discussion
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