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Further frustration with the Chinese 3M Half Face Respirator copy/clone.
It is very hard to pressure check this mask meaning you can't be certain if you have a safe air tight seal with the mask on.
If the mask is pressurising properly then it probably is fine however I would feel uneasy about using it with harmful dusts etc.
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@trycoldman2358
@trycoldman2358 6 лет назад
I fell into the trap and accidentely bought a chinese 3m and it doesn't work. Gotta get me a real one for working with asbesthos.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Actual 3M masks are quite cheap at least.
@trycoldman2358
@trycoldman2358 6 лет назад
Chewbacca not job, for removing old building material in our house
@flash98449
@flash98449 3 года назад
always check the reviews
@severussnape222
@severussnape222 4 года назад
The Market has been flooded with these Chinese copy 6200s almost immediately after the outbreak. Never losing a minute of opportunity. Unfortunately they are the only ones available at the moment and will work in a pinch.
@SW-ii5gg
@SW-ii5gg 4 года назад
It's like they knew it was going to happen.
@diavolescaCZ
@diavolescaCZ 4 года назад
There are holes under the red filter seals. No idea what for, but unless you put a filter on and it compresses the seal around those holes, you can't negative pressure check it. Those little cups could work, but would need to be just slightly smaller in diameter. I spent a lot of time at the store when I bought my first 6200 mask wondering why it wasn't sealing without filters while doing a negative check.
@222INFINITY
@222INFINITY 4 года назад
If you remove the material from the filter and keep the bayonet plastic ring and attach it to the filter and pop a water bottle cap into it it seals perfect, the cap actually snaps in place. You get a perfect seal. You quickly discover you have to in and exhale a few times to get the valves working.
@LordCakeskull
@LordCakeskull 4 года назад
The leak may be around the bayonet fittings, there tend to be gaps in the plastic moulding of the bayonets under the lugs themselves. The only way I can think of to test it would be getting something like the measuring cups, but with a diameter that matches that of sealing ridge on the filters.
@flipmemax
@flipmemax 4 года назад
I bought this exact mask, thinking it was a official 3M mask.. cause the retailer is a very popular dutch website so i trusted them to deliver an official 3M mask. For me the mask works fine, when i put my hands over the airvents on each side, the mask completely vacuum seals and i cant breathe! So my mask doesnt let any air through the exit vent :)
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 4 года назад
That means it's working properly lol
@Muhovc
@Muhovc 4 года назад
So the chinese mask came ian actual 3M box from a dutch retailer?
@Glock9999999
@Glock9999999 4 года назад
Its coming from the exhaust valve... its very thin and collapsing when you put negative pressure. Original 3M does same thing... only difference is it takes alot of negative pressure to collapse a 3M valve than a chinese one.
@andrewa00101
@andrewa00101 4 года назад
Thank you for this review series! I got bamboozled and ordered this knock off from amazon and your notes are consistent with my findings. I am ordering a proper 3M 6000 and P100 mask and filter from an authorized reseller. Imo the mask is ok for non industrial covid mitigation but you are better off just biting the bullet and getting a real 3M product.
@pan2aja
@pan2aja 4 года назад
dude seriously.. you are using particulate filter. Off course you can still smell things. Put on the chemical filter then you (probably smell very little smell )
@DanyDM_98
@DanyDM_98 2 года назад
Had this same problem with an original 3M 7502 mask, turns out it came bad assembled from factory. I completely disassembled it and then reassembled, and now it makes a proper seal.
@ms-qh3ic
@ms-qh3ic 4 года назад
actully the design of 6100-6300 series is very simple through, open and close all depend on that silicon valve.
@vanquishstorm3806
@vanquishstorm3806 4 года назад
With the 3M P100 7093 cartridge, the outer plastic casing can easily be decontaminated. With the pancake style filters such as the ones shown in this video (3M 2135 similar to 3M 2091/2097) can these style filters be decontaminated after use since the filter is fully exposed without a protective casing? I am considering purchasing the P100 2091 filters but if they are unable to be decontaminated without damaging the integrity of the filter, I will forgo that option and continue purchasing the P100 7093's. Thank you for the insightful educational knowledge shared throughout your videos.
@atifnajam1617
@atifnajam1617 4 года назад
Can you please guide how to clean or decontaminate the outer surface of 2135 filter you used in this video
@serbrat
@serbrat 4 года назад
no cleaning, no shaking out. 6035 may be better. For sterilization - hermetically seal the filter in a plastic bag and put it in a steam bath for... 15 minutes. and some kind of high voltage generator could be useful for electrostatically recharging the filter
@asspukeshit
@asspukeshit 4 года назад
Theres a hole under the gaskets, that's where the air is coming from.
@axeinthegame6853
@axeinthegame6853 4 года назад
Just say three not free
@plesher3515
@plesher3515 4 года назад
in the other video I was sure you said "bananaR" oil. I'm glad you showed the label this time. Yes its banana oil!! xD
@janakaye4172
@janakaye4172 4 года назад
This is probably a late response but I'll comment anyway. The reason theres a "leak" when you do the pressure test is because you're inhaling too forcefully. Try to inhale gently, just enough for the face seal to collapse. Once you feel that, stop inhaling and check if it stays collapsed (if it stays that means its a good seal). If it slowly returns to its usual state even when the valves are closed that could mean a leak or the mask is not a proper fit. Hope this helps. Also, you've got some good lungs there, bruv.
@SashaTheDog
@SashaTheDog 6 лет назад
Its always enjoyable watching you slowly drift into madness.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
I want to take the filters off but I can't! It's my curse, it's my eternal curse!
@Jp050808
@Jp050808 4 года назад
From what i can see, the air could be coming in through the area by the bridge of your nose. You did say chinese copies use a harder type of rubber instead of silicone and it may not be conforming properly to your face. I cant see the bottom portion of the mask so I cant really say. But still a good video. Very informative. Cheers
@manletopia4801
@manletopia4801 2 года назад
and the farting sounds it makes when he tests it you can hear it
@Sergei_Krankov
@Sergei_Krankov 6 лет назад
Ive never clicked so fast in my lie!! Great video 😀
@SeymourKitty
@SeymourKitty 4 года назад
Where can I find those peefree masks?
@Wwl3145
@Wwl3145 4 года назад
😂your reaction on p3 at the beginning on the vid😂😂😂
@WeaponCollector
@WeaponCollector 6 лет назад
Anyone ever suggest Talcum powder puffed into the air for a particle test? would that work?
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
No but good idea, did end up using this with lint and some other dusty stuff and it does seem to work.
@TheGamerGuy1981
@TheGamerGuy1981 4 года назад
After testing one of these vs my 3m 7003 from a real distributor... Night and day.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 4 года назад
Yeah tbh this is not a 7000 clone but a 6000 clone but yeah the real 3M masks are far far better.
@jhsyang
@jhsyang 4 года назад
Hey- great videos! I've watched a few and very informative. So is it your opinion that even a knock off mask- if one can properly test seal- and you throw away the chinese filter and use official 3M filters (they seem to fit knock off mask) then ok? I guess I'm wondering if the mask seals- then arent we only concerned with filter performance? Thanks.
@RuffKutz
@RuffKutz 5 лет назад
It's you english accent. Be proud of it! Maybe try some rubber bicycle tube to cover the inlet valves. 🇦🇺
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 4 года назад
I bought a few 3M 5103 and 5203 half face filters a few years ago and just opened one. The yellow filters appear to be glued to the mask and are not removable. I put some real force into trying to remove them. Did you ever hear of such a thing?
@empressmarga
@empressmarga 3 года назад
There is something wrong with your invalve fitting... i have not tested the mask on its bear specs but anything i doubt i modify... any points that i doubt to be a leak source i seal with clay and i would like to manifest that i have no leaks on my mod
@okkid7311
@okkid7311 6 лет назад
Two questions- does the Yugoslav camo kit have ir shielding and a random question- what's your favourite song? Mine's "Boys Keep Swinging" by David bowie
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
I'll have to do an updated test with a few other camos and include the Yugo/Serb stuff I have. For song. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yhDkgTckYnY.html
@okkid7311
@okkid7311 6 лет назад
Weaponsandstuff93 Cool!
@222INFINITY
@222INFINITY 4 года назад
Remove the orange washers under the filters ......their's your answer.
@P35-h4s
@P35-h4s 6 лет назад
hey question i dont know if you have played this game but i would wonder if you could do a video on the gas masks in the division its an open world looter/rpg shooter and gas masks are part of it but i want to know more about the masks that are featured thanks for reading :D
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Never played it so can't cover it. Nearly all the pictures I can see are 3M half face masks though.
@P35-h4s
@P35-h4s 6 лет назад
i agree thank you for your coverage
@elisabetzinker5036
@elisabetzinker5036 6 лет назад
To test it you would need some particulate that is very easy to sense by either smell or taste. The best thing i can come up with would be bitrex/denatonium benzoate powder. Its really easy to notice its horrible bitter taste when working with it. Its also not that hard to obtain. Where i live at least, most methylated spirits contain up to 1% of it. So even just concentrating them down a bit and creating a fine mist using and ultrasonic atomizer might do the job. Be careful where you work with it though, its hard to get rid of and quickly ruins any finger food or home cooking where you touch the produce for weeks to come. Best regards Elly
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
I don't know how well that would work with particulate filters as I already have Isoamyl Acetate but that cannot be used with particle filters, just vapour filters. Thanks for the suggestion though.
@elisabetzinker5036
@elisabetzinker5036 6 лет назад
Denatonium benzoate is a solid, usually sold as a fine fluffy white powder. When dispersing a concetrated solution of it via an atomizer, it should produce an extremely fine dust, depending on concentration and drop size, after the solvent evaporates. Maybe a filler material would be a good idea, as it can be quite overwhelming in its potency, and could lead to a false positive from even just the permitted 0.05%. Of course you could also just let it dry out completely and disperse it by other means, might not get as fine though. That said, i strongly recommend handling it as a solution wherever possible to avoid spreading the dust. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatonium I could run some tests with one of my Dräger 89 ABEK2-Hg-P3 if you'd like, maybe see which concentrations are reliable enough. Im a little busy at the moment though, and working with the stuff needs some careful preparation. Last time i handled it, i seriously couldnt eat any finger food for more than a week, no matter how much i scrubbed my hands.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Don't worry about it, I wouldn't bother getting anything that nasty to test if this cheap mask works properly.
@tumbo1984
@tumbo1984 6 лет назад
I would coat the junk filters in wax or put a latex glove over it and wrap the seal with a rubber band. Other than that no idea mate
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Already binned the shit filters as they were leaking everywhere, but good ideas, does seem to work though as have used it a few times since filming this for nuisance dust and I don't start sneezing or wheezing so it's good enough for DIY use.
@yorkshirecamper3705
@yorkshirecamper3705 4 года назад
i bought two chinese masks neither will seal
@SkeletonOnFire
@SkeletonOnFire 4 года назад
I got a 3M 3000 series respirator with 2097 filters, do you have any advice, i am new with respirators.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 4 года назад
It will only protect against particulates with that filter but otherwise it's fine
@tinkertom3683
@tinkertom3683 4 года назад
Avoid buying Chinese 3m knock offs as the quality is not the same as original 3m cartridges and pose a huge risk to your health not worth the price you pay.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 4 года назад
Well the masks are pretty basic and straightforward but yes the Chinese filters are awful.
@arthurtamayo6522
@arthurtamayo6522 4 года назад
Say: "pee free" Now say: "pee the" Now say: "pee thee" Now say: "pee the free" Now say: "pee th-ree" Now say: "pee three" You need a speech pherapissed, don't you?
@QuaabQueb
@QuaabQueb 5 лет назад
Man I wonder how ebay even permits them to sell these....hard to tell what is legit anymore, even from non chinese sellers. I also just uploaded a video taking apart one of these chinese 3M organic vapor charcoal filters if anyone is interested.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 5 лет назад
It's probably very hard to stop sellers, lots of illegal stuff gets sold on eBay, many people just make brand new accounts if the old one is shut down, so someone selling bootleg/copied equipment would be able to get away with it for even longer.
@QuaabQueb
@QuaabQueb 5 лет назад
@@Weaponsandstuff93 yep pretty much, it ebay can tackle it if they really wanted to. Also take a look at the vid I just uploaded pulling one apart, some one commented saying this is what a legitimate 3M filter would be built like. What do you think?
@DullPoints
@DullPoints 6 лет назад
Why not test it with smoke from burning paper or wood shavings? Those particles are 1 micron or less which would be blocked by these filters.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Maybe but I have used it while sanding and it worked.
@twilson7384
@twilson7384 6 лет назад
What is the best mask i could buy in the $30 USD price range (shipping included if possible). I don't have much budget but want something to have around just in case i need it. Also I'd rather not buy from Ebay for personal reasons.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Well I can't really recommend anywhere if you don't want to use eBay, can you find a US M40 mask in a surplus store for $30?
@twilson7384
@twilson7384 6 лет назад
Weaponsandstuff93 thank you very much for the input I may have to settle for Ebay.
@CoolestMcGuy
@CoolestMcGuy 6 лет назад
Hey do you think i should do anything else with my s10 other than vaseline it and wash it?
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Vaseline is probably not a great idea, just wash it with mild disinfectant.
@chrisgoogler
@chrisgoogler 4 года назад
It seems that your mask is big for your face, top corner is above the medial canthus of your eyes which maybe causing the air leak. Bad fit, bad seal.
@ColHogan-le5yk
@ColHogan-le5yk 6 лет назад
Lmao he said P3!
@mofi3641
@mofi3641 4 года назад
quality has its price...easy.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 4 года назад
Yup
@fatmegacat2682
@fatmegacat2682 6 лет назад
Nice video mate! Where's a good place to get a gp5 instead of ebay?
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Amazon
@jpbanaag9179
@jpbanaag9179 4 года назад
Hey bro, does the 3M 6200 with 2901 filters will work for airborn viruses? Thanks!
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 4 года назад
Yes they are P100/P3 so assuming someone is not coughing into your filter it would work.
@AM-bg9tq
@AM-bg9tq 6 лет назад
i bought the Chinese 3m, i brought it for when i do soldering, (new to this so noob). D:
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Does it work for you?
@AM-bg9tq
@AM-bg9tq 6 лет назад
I must point out first that i got the M 7502, as the air flow draws more from the bottem of the mask. the filter is a 6001cn "organic vapour" watching your video mentioning the diffrence between filtering particles and vapour - for solder i need to look into it. I smell a little bit of solder through the mask but it seems pressure tight, after putting it on i get a fat vein bulge on my forehead probably cuz air flow is reduced w/ mask. The main issue is the strap that goes over your head can detach from the mask easily and will fall off, very dangerous if this was used with somthing more toxic. i paid £15, however on screwfix, i think the mask and same filter was £45 o.o somethings up. !
@edgarlindo1284
@edgarlindo1284 4 года назад
I want cheap 3M mask. Can china copy can do
@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k
@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k 4 года назад
Bruh that mask is worse than an old GP5 or whatver.
@SmeefSauce
@SmeefSauce 6 лет назад
hey, i have been interested in gas masks for a while and im looking at getting me a new one, i maybe thought you would like to check it out as well. Its called a K1 and its a Korean mask. looks like it has some great features. its like the S10 + shalon 4a1 put in a blender
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
I know of the K1 but I've never seen one for sale at reasonable prices.
@SlavicBoi
@SlavicBoi 6 лет назад
Bootleg masks aren't good since they might not work
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Totally depends, if we include all "bootleg" masks loads of Russian masks shouldn't work but they do.
@mr.banzai
@mr.banzai 5 лет назад
hi what type of filter shall I use to filter out viruses or bacteria thanks
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 5 лет назад
P3 filters like the one in the video.
@mr.banzai
@mr.banzai 5 лет назад
wow thanks dude I never expected a quick reply , im so happy 😂
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 5 лет назад
Depends when you leave a comment, if it's a few minutes before I check the comments you get a quick response.
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 4 года назад
@Flawrence Isenhart It would depend on the type of gas, it's why NBC or ABEK-P3 type filters are recommended as they cover several types of vapour threats.
@shaungilmartin1505
@shaungilmartin1505 4 года назад
this is the problem I have with this mask.
@Justsomeoneyoucouldhaveknown
@Justsomeoneyoucouldhaveknown 4 года назад
Apparently people are living under a rock cuz I can tell that you have an accent. Furthermore they don't realize that "American" English came after "British" English so really us saying "pea three" is wrong and chronologically speaking "pee free" would be the correct saying. But at the end of the day English in general is the most complicated for whatever reason. Example Fish can be spelt Ghoti and it would be correct
@brandonmuralles2386
@brandonmuralles2386 5 лет назад
Can this help out with the zombie apocalypse with different filters
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 5 лет назад
Well zombies are not real so no idea how I can give you a scientific answer to fantasy.
@brandonmuralles2386
@brandonmuralles2386 5 лет назад
Weaponsandstuff93 ok but thanks
@j.w.r776
@j.w.r776 4 года назад
Try powdered chalk lol
@Alex-dn7jq
@Alex-dn7jq 2 года назад
Based Cockney conoseur
@MilitarySeeman
@MilitarySeeman 6 лет назад
Do you tried to block the inhale valves with corks? (Wine Corks)
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Nope I don't have wine corks laying around.
@MilitarySeeman
@MilitarySeeman 6 лет назад
Sad to hear, but I hopefully, you can solve the problem. I have a question: - When I worked in a Factory, where I have the option to wear a Half Face 3M Respirator, with filters on it ( Sadly, I don't know the filter type, but I guarantee it's not just a simple P3 filter like what you have in this video) Some portion of my coworkers back than sayed a very not logical thing about wear a respirator weekdays (5 day / week) 8 hours/ day: "You going to damage/get a disease, because you wear a respirator almost half a day, and it's healthy if you wear that respirator only 3 hour (Without joke, I don't think is logical what they saying, but I have a question). If someone wearing a half face gas mask very commonly (8 hours a day, minimum 5 day/week), there is any health risk around? Can I get any type of disease? (Of course, I washed back then the respirator before work, if not all the time I cleaned with some proper cleaner, but minimum with water mixed with hand soap.) (Sorry if I killed your several hunders of your braincells, I know you are not a specialist about respiratory diseases, I just wanted to know your opinion about it. I worked there with Fiberglass, Polyol, Isocyanide, and other unkown nasty stuffs. My question is not primary targeted, to annoy you, but I hope for further enlightment in this.) *I cleaned only the oral nasal cup part of the respirator.
@MilitarySeeman
@MilitarySeeman 6 лет назад
+ Joke: One of my coworker on there did actually: We have 8 hour / day work, and only weared 3 hour /day the half face respirator. Seriously: When the shift is beginned, he weared the gas mask. 3 hour later, when he go for a break, he camed back without respirator :D I weared the 3M Half Face Respirator all the time, when I worked in that contaminated Area. So, you can imagine, I'm the stupidest people on the factory...
@Brandfall609
@Brandfall609 6 лет назад
I bought a shms with a filter for 10 bucks, good deal?
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Yes
@jejex7759
@jejex7759 6 лет назад
Where you got it? Since mine looked like shit and they refunded me with a black PRV-U
@ioannisholden1108
@ioannisholden1108 6 лет назад
Would you say that 20 pounds is a good price for an shms?
@Weaponsandstuff93
@Weaponsandstuff93 6 лет назад
Yeah that's a decent price.
@Brandfall609
@Brandfall609 6 лет назад
I got one for 10 € with filter
@invisibleninja8221
@invisibleninja8221 6 лет назад
Hi
@Isolierter_Hazim
@Isolierter_Hazim 3 года назад
Привет из Малайзия
@millertary1324
@millertary1324 6 лет назад
this is rather off topic but that thumbnail pic of you looks slightly like Barack Obama.
@luissalazar3811
@luissalazar3811 6 лет назад
Caelan Miller Lol.
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