Future Ghetto of St. Petersburg, Russia. (Murino, Worst District of The City) 

sometimes it's the *lack* of comprehensive city planning, like in the States :/

You said humans... yes if you look to any individual human then you see one, but if you look at the whole picture what you see is just biomass, human-ants, fry-fish... the only purpose of life is to feed big sharks like real estate developers, banks, car manufacturers, government officials, etc. Work, buy, die, leave your offspring to repeat this cycle again and again... what a wonderful life

I agree absolutely and one thing that really impressed me is the amount of beautifully kept parks and green thoroughfares . It does look sterile and I am sure parts are however there will be lovely clean parks for the children to play in predator free . And I can tell you for free that anyone caught in a kids park up to no good will have an unpleasant suprise lol . In fact there will be wide birch lined avenues to walk in . It is a standard part of the design brief . Near me in England there is a large city with one park full of needles used condoms and dog excrement and no trees anywhere

i would write a comment about trees parks before i saw your comment. There is no Green !!!! No trees WHAT THE FUCK ... This city make a person mad , depressing. Very very very bad planinng very bad place to live.

>interested mainly in short-term profits and bribes welcom to russia

Well, the thing is, all the post boxes are located on the first floor, so you don't even have to go upstairs or so 😁

Наш почтовый сервис - это дерьмо. Если вам нужно что-то получить на почте, вы приходите на почту и получаете. Почтовые ящики в каждом лобби. Но они ставят только рекламу пиццы и счета за жилье. Счет зарплаты 1/3 - почтальон. I almost forgot. In Soviet buildings, mail works a little better.

Lol.

Haha

@@КонстантинКякк Yes.

they played sim city after several vodkas! :p

Trees take 25+ years to grow up decent size. By that time the district will be uninhabitable

No they won't. More cars, we want more cars! It's not fashionable to use public transport.

@@maximzhuravlyov9530 more cars means more Pollution

@@Легушька-г1б get big tree and plant that

@@kathylesnewski5442 they don't really farm adult trees all that much. It's deemed to be expensive, and this is very inexpensive housing for people with no expectations of anything but very basic things

I have thought of this exact thought myself. Very glad he does.

imagine learning russia yazek.. 😄😄

Basically that's the Varlamov channel he mentioned in the beginning. I'm studying Russian and I stumbled upon that channel. Lots of very good content on it and it's such a shame that only a couple of his videos have English subtitles! There's videos about urban life, but also about travelling. He's been to Somalia, Syria and other extreme places as a tourist.

It is valid for all languages, I let you imagine the contents that are lost for those who do not know Russian and Chinese

Imaginate la calidad de contenido que muchos de nosotros perderíamos si...

does look like an office park. hope they all have dachas for the weekend. I think they do.

"Technological slave" that is so apt and poignant, and very evident in this age we live in, mindless zombies seem to be everywhere.

Whatever you say but Ikea has some great designers and if you go to Sweden youll see one of the best city-development plans and in the world

those concrete boxes are now worth 20 years of wage in europe unattainable millenial dream, to have a concrete box of your own

@@atropa6053 Is truth, the point here is there is not any life around these constructions in the biggest country.

@@atropa6053 I am guessing there is more life in a ghetto, routine and monotony kills.

@*ОωО / As you say.

@*ОωО / So stablishmets are far away?

Wouldn't say it encourages when you from the beginning move such people there.

Google the Glasgow red road flats, they've demolished them and the lower rise replacements have decreased crime. It's the same all over the UK. Demolish the 1960's high rises (which are identical externally to Soviet blocks of the same era) and the crime and depression slightly lifts, so it's not just the type of people it's the architecture that actually contributes to it.

@@whynotagain3639 doesn't lower buildings mean less density and less density often means less problems congregate into the same small area. It is just that these towers, of course on way way smaller scale that what we see in this video, do work. Everything that is too much is not healthy, but when only 1-3 towers are close and middle class lives it usually doesn't create any more crime than in other types of urban planning. There is a large advantage at least in Soviet planned tower districts, you get way more public and green space than in some 19th century planned city like Paris. Those Paris courtyards are often so small, dark and depressing :/

If there were developments like that on the outskirts of London I guarantee you they'd be in demand too. These are cheap, giving young people an opportunity to buy instead of renting. Low prices + access to St. Petersburg job market = success. Edit: I guess what I'm getting at is that the design of this place is market-driven, and considering the fact that these aren't subsidised housing or anything like that it won't necessarily attract more crime. Living in St Petersburg isn't getting any cheaper, so these will continue to be in high demand.

@@EllidaWangel these cheap anthills would be very popular and attractive in most big cities that can't satisfy housing demand. If there is good access to metro it could even focus on people who do not use cars and then those parking spots could become pretty large green spaces.

Anthills have some social life. This type of neighbourhoods are just storage for people and their cars.

@@zokraft On point!

Yeah that's what everybody calls them in Russia.

robert gorlee Concrete in English. Beton is french

Genci Numani бетон in russian

sabbath ouijas It is not a Russian word. It was borrowed from French. This is a fact. Cannot argue with facts. “ Beton- Etymology Borrowed from French béton (“concrete”), from Latin bitūmen (“asphalt”).”

@@gnumani stfu

Those people are same culture. That is not case in U.S.

What was the rent? 🤔

@@pyellard3013 It's about 200-300$ /1 month for one-room flat. 400$ for two-room.

@@luckyone8927 Thanks..

@@luckyone8927 Okay that is a nice price for st. peterburg for a new building.

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@@johntravolta2334 you studied there in the 80s too?)

It's so! Look at the Sergey Kuznetsov's home and at the his projects!

Catgirl Russia is underpopulated

@@alexandraSashY How come they are building so much?I have seen the over production of buildings everywhere .America got so overpopulated

overpopulation? what overpopulation?!?! ever took an airplane? if not go for an adventure and look down to all those "overpopulated" area's,

Catgirl it’s 10th in the world in population. US is number 3 after China and India. Considering Russia is the biggest country in the world it’s not dense at all with roughly 140 mil people. However, in recent decades most people are moving into urban areas mainly for superior infrastructure and jobs (agriculture being on the decline). So you see a lot of large complexes like that are relatively inexpensive for people to acquire and still be able to be near a cosmopolitan city. I have to say there are different types of these, some are actually quite nice, like around Moscow area. It just depends on who builds it.

@@caryn9561 Overpopulation in the big cities - more than they can have at once. But they do this intentionally - to have better control over the people.

Montana is beautiful.

Living in concrete hives is not natural for humans. In the USSR, people were given apartments and land. Residents of St. Petersburg, in addition to their apartments have 500,000 land plots (average area from 600 to 2000 m²) outside the city, most of the plots with different buildings.

I live in large, apartment, single level, Billings.....my backyard is a park....I love Montana! retired US Army....

Watch out for Joseph Seeds people

trust me Chet, ghettos in Montana are waaaaaaaaayyyy worse

like new york

@John Proctor Having lived in Chicago - a great architecture town, and one of America's most segregated cities - much of my life, I've seen things that have been done badly and things that have done well. Architecture is not just about the buildings, it's about the people who use them and the surroundings they create.

I agree, Canadian and this seems really nice. We have literal food deserts surrounding housing projects on this side of the world. There were so many food shops, and its close to the train to the city, and probably lots of young people around to be friends with.

Probably because he wiped out some million people by famine and forced collectivism - no need for more than 5 level buildings then - also since those times Europe's population has grown 3 times....

@@domandoria5362 You are an expert at making nonsensical connections. The majority of Americans live in one or two story houses - must have been the greatest mass murder ever! Also, collectivism itself does not kill anyone, rather it is the problem of outdated agricultural theory, droughts, and a million other complicated factors. Reducing it to just "workers controlling things = mass starvation" just shows you defend tyrannical economics. Don't do that.

@@heyitstobias or because it made it harder to bomb

Готов платить за уютные пятиэтажки с подземным паркингом по 3600 евро за метр как в Гамбурге? За Сталиным хер плачет ёпта.🤦

The 5 story buildings is because that's the max you can build and still expect people to walk the stairs without an elevator.

"What a dump!"

"A logical set of cells on the 14th floor" (Vance Packard).

go look up london ghettos and you will see more depressing

Every city has a poor side to it even the “great” America

@Chidori457 oh cool

Yes, Russian cities are being destroyed by this kind of "development" and become unsuitable for a living.

Absolutely, almost all old districts have parks and many green zones and now we have concrete jungle

I said the same thing about Las Vegas years ago - A ugly box sitting in the dessert attracting desperate souls. Today, they're scaling to construct more single-family homes instead of hotels or apartments. Makes that dessert more welcoming to reside. If Russia can at least do the same by building a mass community of single-family homes. You'll have a family-oriented environment, privacy, and the freedom to BBQ on your front porch. After all, Russia is the biggest country in the world. Plenty of real estate to build a single home community. Historically, concrete jungles can turn for the worst (Take Brooklyn and Queens for example). However, the Government like this idea cause it provides more housing on a single lot. It's also easier to keep track of the population when issuing consensus. So of course the regulations will be more lenient for these developers creating an ugly mess.

@@БорисИванов-т7о I completely understand and I'm sure many Russians would agree with you. You guys have been living in these type of structures for a very long time under the Soviet Union and it's only been 18 years since the fallout. So I'm not surprised by your remark for which I respect.

It is a new area,trees will be planted but forests exist a short distance away and large modern shopping centers will pop up soon as they have in all such areas here. The city center(these are NOT in St Petersburg but in the countryside of Leningrad Oblast so no city regulations apply. Since the city is 25 minutes away by metro none these apartment owners are deprived of the social and cultural options of St Petersburg. New modern apartments are affordable and after more shopping and restaurants open they will spend more time in their neighborhood. I grew up in th suburbs of the Capital of California and my parents were so happy to buy a new house with school across the street but there was nothing, no trees, lawns or parks and only later did it fill in with shopping centers, cafes and trees were planted by the new home buyers. It took years for the area to look nice but it did by the time I got to high school and we moved further out to new development with no trees and shops and it took my parents 2 decades to fix up the bare dirt to become a nice yard. These apartments in Marino are more developed than how our neighborhoods developed so I do not see how horrible these are. These are starter apartments or working class, and they have secure safe homes and neighborhoods so 90% of the world would be happy to see the positive aspects of their first home there.

@@Victorcr1000 I totally agree. What's even mindblowing, is that these complex are NOT Government housing like we have here in the US. Each unit are paid to own rather than renting. Yet, they're built like apartments similar to ours as halfway housings (inmate homes after release) with no green spaces as you explained. Here in the US, these complex would be considered as Condominium than apartments. But our condos here have theme parks, plants, and shops nearby unlike apartments. The developers could've done a better job indeed.

SHADOWED kiss They dont care What trees..a few years the weather kill that look Be a acidic fromage of pastels Waiting 4 next acid tripdudeeee

Yes, it is much safer there, but the city must prohibit building residential houses higher than 10 stories. The lower the better.

doctornatural gamer+ America has nothing to do with anything in this video.

@@PerthTowne Why? This place kinda looks like COOP City in NYC

Why do Americans have a much higher standard of living than Russians? Ghettos....... silly you. Enjoy your low wages and pitiful standard of living comrade.

Oh wow, new russian neighborhood not for poor people looks even better then American ghetto. What a success!

You are welcome. We are't like the media show us

Illinois and russia is the same thing. Crappy depressing weather from both placesn

I can show you horrible can architecture can be. Just type Bežanijski blokovi, this our capital Block estate from 1976-1980s. Whats more interesting is that they are expensive, not to mension newer architecture on this part of city. Our city Belgrade is full of this buildings.

если что-либо не устраивает, то у любого и каждого всегда есть возможность продать и переехать в другой район, или город.

This actually looks nice and is much needed for the housing crisis. This looks nice, and as a young person, I'd love to live close to the train, good fast food and friends. Seeing nice big blocks like this made me almost want to move there, and I live in Canada. This is not ugly or bad at all.

or montreal even...

Cmon man thats just depressing

You can thank Corbusier for that.

Actually ussr bought French projects for such buildings in 60's and it created those familiar soviet looking buildings

То е ть строим десять домов на 1000 квартир и получаем 20 тыщ

This houses stay on former agriculture territories, that's why there r no 🌳 still.

No building with handicapped entrance vancity All sidewalks must have easy access Stops LIGHTS Guess that's what they called PROGRESSIVE Or door handle must be ergonomic

Rent is cheaper, you can afford to go spend time in nature if that is what you want. I would argue that the overall quality of life is better with this type of city planning. Go to reakjavik and pay 1,5k € / month for a studio apartment in a wooden two stories house, because building is banned and nothing will be built.

@@googleuser2609 Developing country? According to what metric???

Handicapped people are not taken into account in Russian urbanism... it’s revolting how much the towns are unfit for the latter, Peter included

No it would look nothing like Vancouver. This would be considered a total disaster if they built something like this in Canada or the U.S even if it more green space and trees In North America and the UK, we've mostly learned from the past and would not build like this. They are still using the same planning and building ideas from the 1960s..they didn't even bother to see what ben done in other countries in the past 50 years. The way they treat the space around the building, the parking, and the way they deal with the street is like text book 1960s, when everyone all of a sudden had a car had a car and they didnt know how to deal with the issue. the design of the shops within the building is also bad

@@zochbuppet448 The shops being on the ground floor of the buildings is definitely not bad - it usually didn't happen in the 1960s. It comes from Jane Jacobs' idea of having active street frontage and it's exactly what happens in Vancouver, Hong Kong and various other places which exemplify successful and safe apartment block living. This Russian development is far from perfect, but it really is nowhere close to the horrors of 1960s US/UK housing projects.

@@zochbuppet448No en Europa ni en Eu contruyen ya nada de esto porque están en la quiebra. Se mueren de envidia del crecimiento econòmico de Rusia y estas rápidas soluciones de su gobierno para evitar los callejeros que ya hay miles en sus países.

Seriously?

No, he was being facetious. Although they might help.... What you see here is simply residential planning focused around profit and not aesthetics.

these what u get when u play too much minecraft..

Excellent idea actually, we bomb each other's cities but why spoil the surrounding nature more than we have to? There are already powerful more eco friendly bomb alternatives to nukes but no one would be persuaded to give up the edge just for the eco benefits :(

Government & "developers" don't care. In here nobody cares how people live.

@@ghostrun640 If the settlements are dispersed, this leads to large expenditures on infrastructure, water supply, sewerage, heating and electrical networks, roads, and no one will be able to buy . If a person wants a separate house, he can build it for himself, many do so.

Murican = American for those readers who do not have a real mastery of the English languages slang.

@@boddah92108 tooork owhr jhobbs

Never been afraid of Russians. I suppose they’re just like anyone else. Just regular people, who just happen to speak a different language.

Mister Methuselah cheers from Australia.....I agree, where's trees and pets, bicycle lanes, park benches.... ugh

Are americans afraid of russians?😁😁😁

Why would you think Russia would be exempt

Joseph Aziz Exactly lol

Joseph Aziz At no point did I imply that Russia is exempt. Maybe you should read my comment again.

LOL the Russian construction company didn't make any mistakes here. They PURPOSELY did it this way because they know they can make more profit, and save more on materials cost using this method. They knew exactly what they were doing.

Harry Martens Some are much worse than others. Some are far better for humans to live.

You idiot , it’s fucking Russia you nob

You just need Peter The Great - to build You a City at Ireland ! Have You been to Russia ?

Yeah

I too am from Ireland. I hate high-rise buildings. I think small is better.

How's living there?

Как твой город?

Привет, сосед!

@Max Schmidt и тебе добра, сосед

@@archlich4489 Not so bad, but the main problem of the city is that there is no transport(

That district is bad, but I often think that it protected our city centre. If we build such low quality, high capacity districts far away, we avoid overcrowding city centre and building them in place of green spaces, historical structures. What I mean is that lately we started to rapidly increase density in the city centre. Nowadays we build just barely better projects than "Perkunkiemis" right next to the old town, in a lot more sensitive areas. Due to those real estate developments decrease our green spaces, trees are cut, historical buildings demolished. This is clearly happening in Šnipiškės with all those new densely packed 8-10 story apartment buildings. Or even inside old town, like Paupys, where historically nothing similar to those new dense 6 story buildings has ever existed and that area was unique due to nature, lack of urbanization. It is ironical that when Soviet factory stood more nature and historical pre war structures were preserved than after district's "revival" with modern buildings which take even more land area and are built right next to the Vilnelė river.

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What was the rent like and the year/duration of your stay? And nos. of rooms?

@@learndesignwithdev Well the apartment I stayed at was actually two adjacent apartments combined into one so it was pretty big. Two full bedrooms, two full baths. It was an Airbnb during the world cup so I don't know the real price.

yes, people who say it's bad, ought to try it out. when I lived in Bangkok, I enjoyed my apartment, and the ease to get around the city.

@@VladFTA. Ohh, I thought you were there for studies or work assignment. Thanks for the info.

Look like government BUILDINGs of bronze Damn I cant spell bronze Holy christ

Agreed

It will be hilarious if you will actually start building those modern commieblocks in Cali. Then the ironical name of that state, Commiefornia, would fit it even better

@@ivansychevainen7076, Mid-rise & high-rise apartment buildings (5 stories+) are already common in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Oakland, Los Angeles, Long Beach, & San Diego. But, we need more of them in areas where hypocritical Green Neo-Marxists are concentrated: San Diego's northern suburbs, San Fernando Valley, Ventura-Oxnard, Santa Barbara, Goleta, San Luis Obispo, Monterey area, suburbs of San Jose, SF Peninsula, Berkeley, Contra Costa County, Marin County, Wine Country, and Santa Rosa area.

there are no sprinklers, but there is a fire hydrant on every floor.

Shut up

Stop having kids then. Your over populating the world.

Bridges Dont Fly you have no logic

@@mrknowmyself No you have no logic. Stop having so many kids and your life will be good. I'll bet your a single mother.

@@mrknowmyself Your complete garbage

@@BridgesDontFly haha its about competence do u even realize Paris is the most densly populated city in the world? And wth is about single mom

Distopian city😃

Another bright idea.... Sherlock.

If you like living in a pigeon box good for you

@@coolkingakram. No, these are starter apartments for young couples or elderly moving from older apartments, they start at about $18000. Not many middle class would be there, they would have traded up by now to better locations. In a year or two, there will be large shopping malls and mega grocery stores however so the value of the apartments will increase. The middle class is sticking to the city center, or Petrogradskaya and other diverse areas.

It could only be better than a few places i seen.

@@xtxt9135 indeed . If you go out of Moscow even a small way and move off the main roads the Houses are often way way worse .

@@Hugofreddie i meant in the west and asia. I have not yet had the pleasure of visiting russia, so i cannot say.

Crime is very low in St Petersburg possibly because there are so many emotional and intellectual outlets just over the border into the city limits.

Welcome!

Baklykov. Live have a good day my friend ! Hope one day russian and polish ppl will be closer together. Unfortunately it’s not happening with these disgraceful politicians from both countries. Keep up the good work ! 👏🏻

Клоун что ты ноешь. Когда твою семью переселяли из коммуналки новую квартиру тебе дали бесплатно.

What you write here is not exactly what I was saying about. Low price is not an excuse for a loosy planning and antihuman anthills with no infrastructure. And no, don't be naive, people are not agreeing on conditions. Go to their VK group and see what they discuss. They all demand for more parking lots, schools, kindergartens, police dept, polyclinics, more road connections with Saint Petersburg, and more.

@@realrussiablog they got what they paid for.

And yes, and no. The thing is Russia already have enough of examples of how they develop way better neighborhoods in the same price range.

@@realrussiablog Sergei, unfortunately, near a metro station in St. Petersburg there are no new areas in the same price range. More or less good areas with an average number of storeys are two times more expensive per square meter.

Future home for rapists and drug dealers

true. many pluses!

Parks and "green areas" are a must around residential areas in my opinion. I don't want to go to the city center or to the countryside for that, I want to pass by and through them on a daily basis just to lighten up every day life.

I saw a soccer park

Unpopular Opinion it’s hard go away from Murino, Devyatkino etc by the car, because of traffic, especially morning/evening

Unpopular Opinion buses stop in the same traffic with the cars, because there is only 1 narrow road from Murino to Petersburg

Which town in Northern England are you from?

@@googlesucks7840 I am from Bulgaria 😂

@@samuil-vasilev Then my friend, you can count your blessings.

It's a house out of the rain and weather. It has a bed, bathroom and kitchen. That's enough.

Who will pay for that?

Agreed, doesn't look pretty, but doesn't strike me as one of those hoods that you wouldn't walk through without fearing for your safety

Double S Give it time it will turn into a ghetto. You will not want to walk the halls. It looks like it now.

If you lived in a concrete jungle. You would not make that statement. Just cause it "looks" pretty does not mean the living conditions are. But you are a perfect example when tourist visit Brooklyn ghetto's and see these tall so-called "amazing" structures. They say the same thing, "It doesn't look like a ghetto". And I didn't mention China...

It is not, it is an area that young couples can afford their first home. These people are buying or own them outright so that sort of factor makes them more stable communities. You could walk through any neighborhood in St Petersburg including this one(remember this is not the city, they have no regulation or say because it is in outside the federal city limits of St Petersburg) at 3am alone and not fear unlike similar areas in every western city. Gangs are hanging out, or drug dealers on the street corners. The depressing aspect is lack of green space development and parking. But they are only 25 minutes to the city center with 500 parks and vast arrays of activities using cheap public transportation. Russians tend to live outside the home, there is so much to do out and about and only sleep at home. I moved from a 14 room home in California to a small studio in the city center of St Petersburg in 2000 and did not miss the smaller home at all, I instantly found real freedom in not cluttering up my space and live outside the home with unlimited social and cultural activities. I lived 6 miles from San Francisco over the Gold Gate Bridge in one of the most desirable and expensive areas of the country and moving to that tiny 35sq meter apartment in the heart of St Petersburg was a dramatic step up in quality of life and very very low cost of living. Compared to SPb, SF is a village with limited safe areas and a lack of access to culture and a less friendly atmosphere. And that is about the best in the US.

Being in Russia and telling about Russian district, I sure never appealed to American-like ghettos. It will be our own Russian version of ghetto.

Matt but utilities will be a pain for Russians if they decide to live like US in big plots. It's a cold place and lines for gas, heating will incur extra cost burden on families. Russia is not rich like US. Sad but true.

@@learndesignwithdev Russian cities are much better to live in than US cities but suburbs like this one are not so good due to lack of services. Suburbs in the US are very inefficient so few people do anything but work to support their home and seldom have savings or take vacations. I would estimate there is a 1 in 500 that US suburban residents have ever been to a major museum or seen a real ballet, or seen a real art gallery but they have seen and use fast-food drive-through "restaurants" and have big shopping malls and absolute need for car for each person over 18 in the family. Suburbs are far more soulless than cities or very rural life in the US. The main entertainment is TV watching until falling asleep and starting the commute into work the next morning, traffic jams in the evening and tv again and repeat until the weekend when one is busy taking care of the yard. At least the people in the video have easy access to culture and social activities by cheap public transportation. Russians have a benefit of a lot of public services and a higher PPP rate than US families. It is much cheaper to live in Russia and it is possible to live well with no debt. It is safer, families more secure, have easier access to a great education, and is a friendlier society than the current-day USA. The last time the middle class was healthy and dominate in the US was in the early 1970s but for anyone less than wealthy it is a struggle to live.

Wow, so many generalizations, and many of them incorrect.

@@stanspb763 Well those were very sweeping generalizations, the kind only someone who's never traveled around the USA would make. I'll admit I'm not at all the typical American bcuz I decided early on not to go into debt. In fact I even paid off my house last December so I don't owe anyone a cent. My house prior to this one was all alone out in the country with wild-life everywhere and no human noise-pollution. For my current house Google "Baypoint Market 33040." That's the island I live on, about 150Km from the mainland. It's a stilt-house because of the potential for flooding and I have my boat on a dock right behind my house. I don't like living in 'cookie-cutter' suburbs, so I don't.

@@stanspb763 some good points

So right and sad!

Move to the countryside. Idk how it is in your country, but in Russia it would be much cheapier then living in a city. Idk why people actually still tend to move to the cities, seems like some kind of masochism to me.