@@BlacknWhiteBadger88 ... Agreed. Madison Square Garden isn't going anywhere. It just went through a billion-plus dollar renovation/upgrade; which literally added everything and brought it to the modern standards of today's arenas.
@Chris Simmons ... For more than 125 years there have been four different Madison Square Garden's in New York City. The first, located at Madison Avenue and 26th Street, was used for track cycling between 1879 until 1890. The second Madison Square Garden was constructed in 1890 on the same location as the first. Accordingly, Madison Square Garden is a piece of New York City history. The current building opened in 1968.
It's all about location and who will pay for it. If the new location is Hudson Yards, dead in the water. If it's the location of the old Hotel Pennsylvania (right across the street), they might be interested.
Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle already hosts a basketball team in the Seattle Storm of the WNBA. And I'm guessing that the gutting and rebuilding of the inside of what became Climate Pledge Arena was done with the idea of an NBA team eventually calling the arena home, besides having hockey and the WNBA.
@@S_Over_Street Been there for hockey and a WNBA game. I can see an NBA team there. Although Moda Center is a cool place to see a game, It’ll be nice to not have to drive 3 hours south to see the Wizards get their ass beat lmao.
It’s crazy to think all those arenas built in the 90s and early 2000s are now obsolete. I remember when most of them were brand new. I definitely think Seattle is long overdue to get their team back and should never of lost them in the first place. I really hope that gets done soon. As far as Vegas, why wouldn’t a potential new team share in arena with the Knights instead of building a completely new one? Well, like the video said, it doesn’t sound like a promising deal anyway.
Little Caesar’s Arena in Detroit, home of the Red Wings and Pistons has shops and restaurants that ring around the court/ice with s glass roof between them.
Can you imagine the 1st game for the new Sonic’s be the Oklahoma City thunder clay Bennett will get booed and will need security in and out of that arena.
I highly doubt that the NBA would be foolish enough to schedule the OKC Thunder for the inaugural home game of a new Seattle team. Think of the massive security issues that could cause. We assume the new Seattle team will be called the Sonics, as the city of Seattle, or was it Washington State, that retained ownership of the team name, colors and logo.
Because Vegas gets enough concerts and shows where the market can support a second arena, and there would be more money to be made in a building they control.
A few months ago I saw on my local news that investors from OKC were visiting Milwaukee’s Arena district scouting for ideas on what to invest in for a new arena and entertainment district. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Thunder announce a new arena in the upcoming years.
Should've done your research on the Wells Fargo Center before this video. They're renovated and upgraded the whole inside of the arena over the past 4 years. Its basically a new building on the inside.
If expansion happens there need to be balance in the number of teams. Add Seattle, Vegas, and Kansas City in the west and move Minnesota, Memphis and New Orleans to the Eastern Conference.
Not a Bulls fan, but I’ve been to the United Center 2 twice in 2022 and the renovations and the space in that arena are a game changer for sure. It’s a good place for a basketball game and concert
I go to the united center occasionally and the arena has always been in great form. It doesn’t even look like it’s from the 90’s, they constantly invest into the arena, which is great. The united center is the largest arena in the NBA, they’re not going to renovate it.
T-Mobile Arena in Vegas is already a good basketball arena. The lakers played preseason games there in the past, and it's relatively new. I don't see the need to build another arena in Vegas.
@@davidwesley2525 so? NHL arenas can host basketball with zero issue. Actually, most teams in the NBA have shared/currently share their arena with a hockey team at some level. Hell I think currently there are 10 NHL arenas in the NBA. That's not even counting arenas that host minor league hockey teams like Cleveland, or Orlando or Former NHL arenas like Atlanta.
It’ll have only been 56 years for the Clippers to have a home of their own. Memorial Auditorium in Buffalo was shared with the Sabres. San Diego Sports Arena predates the Clippers moving there. Los Angeles Sports Arena same thing. Staples shared with both the Kings and Lakers.
You should do NHL new arenas/renovations. This is what I know so far: Ottawa Senators - New arena Arizona Coyotes - New Arena NY Rangers - Possible New Arena thrown around Carolina Hurricanes - renovation Calgary Flames - New Arena planned
@@GoalHornGeek if they are contractually obligated to stay in that arena for an x amount of years it will. You just cant get out of an agreement, to find a new place ask the tampa bay rays.
@@SteelRhinoXpress no literally THE OWNER of the arena AND teams is saying they might build a new arena. Pretty sure if they are the owner, they are exempt. Especially considering they’d be closing the arena to expand Penn station
I’m not sure if “the wall” is a good idea for a pro basketball arena bc most pro basketball fans want comfort and that steep angle is anything but comfort. It’ll be interesting to see if the “the wall” is popular with pro basketball fans. I understand that upper decks are steep but those are the “cheap seats”.
@@night6724 I feel like basketball is different though in the fact that more fans are looking for comfort more than an intimidating atmosphere in the pros vs college hoops.
I see Seattle & Vegas getting expansion teams in the next 3 years. If any team was to relocate it would be the pelicans since the arena lease ends sometime next year
Kansas City built a new downtown arena a few years ago in the hopes of luring an NBA or NHL team. It was called the Sprint Center, but when Sprint merged with T-Mobile, the arena was rebranded the T-Mobile Center.
Capital One arena isn’t that bad - also feel like the quality of an arena should also be judged by how it integrates into the surrounding area. I hate the new Braves stadium because it’s far as hell into the suburbs (technically not even in Atlanta).
Yeah I don't think we could take a team in Tampa. Great sports fans but that'd be a lot to take on, esp given the Rays may move close to downtown, which is where the lightning (and that new team) would play. I wouldn't mind it, certainly, but I think between Orlando 90 minutes away and Miami 4 hours away, that's a lot in one area that isn't the Boston/NY/NJ or CA metroplexes
Stop. Y'all overthink this way too much with "Tampa" "Kansas City" even some say "second Chicago team" or "third New York team". in reality Vegas and Seattle are destined to get a team and MAYBE just maybe Montreal and Austin get one in like 30 years
There’s also discussions about the Dallas Mavericks looking for a new arena in the next few years. The American Airlines Center - which opened in 201 - feels outdated compared to other venues.
While the Mavericks and Mark Cuban might want a new arena at some point, there are also the NHL's Dallas Stars that would have to be considered in that equation. However, given the size of the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex; you can't completely dismiss the idea of a new arena, either. AT&T Stadium and Globe Life Field were built in Arlington, Texas. I suppose a new arena could be built out there.
How about ScotiaBank Arena home of the Raptors and Maple Leafs, it's starting to become iconic, but outdated. I don't think they'll move from that spot though it might get a big renovation in the future. United Center in Chicago is in a similar situation as well. Atlanta got a major facelift like that as well a few years ago.
I don't see any issues with the Capital One Arena in DC, it keeps up with renovations through the years and I believe there is additional renovations planned in the future. Also, where would you put a new arena? The current location is perfect. I just attended a college game at the Wells Fargo center in Philly and see no issues with that stadium either. It seems quite up to date to me.
Thought the same. Was just there last year for a game and thought the arena was very well updated and looked very nice on the inside. The outside looked plenty fine as well and was easy to get in and out of. I can maybe see the location as an issue because it’s practically an arena placed inside a neighborhood, but I feel the location is fine and pretty close to everything. Dude just doesn’t know what he’s talking about and obviously hasn’t been to Capital One Arena.
Yeah, that one could get a new arena within the next 10-15 years. It's still very modern and in good shape, so they could just keep it, but I think they want a new building.
MSG is a historic landmark no doubt. Also if the Knicks and rangers wanted out there's literally no land to build in Manhattan and I doubt the nba/nhl allow a team to leave Manhattan!!
Hockey rinks are WAY bigger than basketball courts. What are you talking about? In shared arenas, the seats on the ends are adjustable to move closer to the baskets, and additional seats are added on the sides.
I always wondered why they don't build basketball courts for like fans to shoot around while they wait for the game to start or have little events before the game starts like 3 point shooting contest
Well the main challenge is you're talking about 20 thousand people and even if only 10% of them want to shoot around that's 2000 people. Not enough room. But that said im sure the clippers and Ballmer will find a way to work around it and its a very compelling idea
@@redpillfreedom6692 Yes it had renovations twice already. Lipstick on a pig. New owners ARod & Lore have already mentioned a need for a new arena. No more renovations on that old building.
Could the Timberwolves possibly play home games at the Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, or is that arena not really ideal for the NBA? Granted the arena is also 20 years old.
The wild own that arena right? I don’t think the Timberwolves want to pay rent to another organization when they can just stay in their current home that they own.
Where the fuck did you pull the Magic from for relocating? I mean, they may have been a bad team for years, but they’re in the middle of the pack in NBA attendance this season, and it’s not like their attendance has ever been pathetic like in the NHL with the Panthers or Coyotes. And they have one of the newer arenas right now; Amway Center was built in 2010, and only five other NBA arenas are newer. if they are the only team you can think of in terms of relocating in the NBA, that it’s definitely not happening.
Las Vegas already has the multi-purpose T-Mobile Arena that houses the NHL's Vegas Golden Knights. Building a separate arena for an NBA team would make no sense and is a waste of money and resources.
@@sygonsen4925 Hmm, interesting. Vegas has a decent amount of other suitable arenas, not to mention Allegiant Stadium for larger capacity events. I would think they could squeeze a new NBA team.
@Baby Blu3 I don’t live in Vegas, so enlighten me a bit. As lucrative as UFC & Boxing is, Vegas doesn’t have an arena specifically for Boxing & UFC matches?
You don't have to use renderings for what basketball would look like at the new arena in Seattle, the NBA has already done a test run there with a sold-out preseason game between the Blazers & Clippers. There are photos of the place during the game. It was very much built with the expectation of a future NBA team joining the NHL team. There are already separate locker rooms ready to go and everything. It's a turn-key arena with a prospective ownership group that has deep ties with the NBA just waiting for expansion to officially be on the table to claim their team. Also, if any team might have a possibility of relocation it would be the Pelicans. Not Orlando.
Yeah man, I just found with this video what happened to Miami with the FTX fiasco. Like, this is a wakeup call for owners not to get involved with volatile naming rights like this. ALSO AGREE I WOULD BE GODDDAMN PISSED OFF TOO. LOl.
Oak View Group is planning to build an entertainment district just south of the Las Vegas Strip which includes an 18k arena. That project has a better chance of getting done than All Net Arena. OVG is the same group that renovated Climate Pledge Arena.
Oak View Group is finishing a major renovation of the former Baltimore Arena as the CFG Bank Arena which will be used mostly for concerts and entertainment events, similar to the T Mobile Center in Kansas City.
@@ccmgoalie35 Seattle Sonics Vegas Vipers Vancouver Captains Montreal Saints Kansas City Crowns St. Louis Spirits Kentucky Colonels Pittsburgh Ironmen Nashville Nights Baltimore Crows
bad idea for the NBA to consider Vegas, it's the #40 market, and there are two sports (almost 3) already there. Yes, it's a growing market, but look how long it took Phoenix to get all 4 sports.
I’m an arena junky and only this is disagree with is that out of all the arenas I been to the sixers and wizards are at the top of my list as the nicer ones. They are just huge like twice the size of the other ones I been to
Good for the Clippers and Balmer for constructing a home just for the Clippers. Seattle Arena is a completely new arena. The city wisely preserved the roof which is iconic. That is a beautiful facility. Hope they are awarded an expansion team -Kings. Fan
See the thing with America is that they like abandon there spiritual home that has only been used for 25 years and create a new stadium that will likely last for 20 years as well until so forth, just stick by your stadium and renovate it ffs
