FUV RALLY! Spring 2023 

Same. Also encouraged :)

How much are you down?

@@goncalomantas I have ~400 shares. I don't quantify it in terms of loss. I invest because I believe in the idea and the team, despite recent changes. I'm not gambling. I'm choosing to help, in my small way, a company with as good as you can get in corporate responsibility. At least in the US.

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The next version will have doors. Jesse and Chris addressed this as 99% of the potential buyers want them. I know from experience, you get wet when they are not there. Plus people that live in cold climates will not buy it unless there are optional doors. It's coming soon and it'll make a much better vehicle. It'll also have a steering wheel which will make it much easier to steer and park. The current design is not good for city driving.

No. This is an autocycle, not a car. A billion motorcycles and scooters have no doors and they are still in extremely high demand. Be satisfied with the rare luxury of the wrap around windshield with wiper, washer and defroster; joined to a roof with rain gutters and surrounded by a certified crash cage. This is a very low cost EV when you consider you save $1000 every year through the much cheaper insurance rate and no fuel to buy. No air bags or catalytic converter to steal, no clutch to wear out, no timing belt that is a disaster when it breaks. It is a utility vehicle which has a different meaning from recreational vehicle. FUV owners do commute year around. We stay dry in rain, there are several videos proving that. We have heated seats and hand grips so we only need wind breakers and no biker gear.

@@popeyegordon - Tell this to Chris as he's moving the product in a different direction. He's a great leader and is planning to change the product. So, better let him know now that it is no longer needed as you have the verifiable evidence that it's just fine the way it is. This will allow him to not spend unnecessary money on things like doors. Being the FUV Owner you are, you know better than Chris (listen to the customer base). Let him know and they can just go down the path of zero changes as this is the perfect vehicle.

​@@billsmith5960 I thought they had to go without a wheel to make the packageing work. How do you accelerate now, is there a pedal? Does it work well with the upright seating position?

@@billsmith5960 I live in a cold climate and bought one. Drove it to work in 2 degrees Fahrenheit. It is warmer than the motorcycle!

You are precisely where doors and climate control are a bad idea for sustainable light EVs. Enclosed glass compartments are deadly, they become solar ovens very quickly. That could kill your dog quickly. Arizonans tint the FUV's clear roof and the brow. They add ventilated seat covers and a fan on the dash. Enclosure adds too much weight, then you expect AC, another weight and power penalty that sucks the battery dry prematurely. A billion motorcycles and scooters have no wrap around windshield and roof. That's a billion people getting by OK without climate control. BUT every one of them wishes they had the luxury and safety Arcimoto provides. I'm in hellishly hot and humid Florida. You could not pay me to add doors. Too many self entitled Americans demand the comfort level that is only appropriate for heads of state and royalty in formal attire. Get humble and live sustainably! Our survival depends on it.

I can point out that you overooked the primary use that is of most importance - substituting this for a car to reduce envirnomental impacts. I bought my last gallon of gas 8 years ago. I drove an e-bike for 7 years to be able to afford my new FUV. "Non-local travel" became obsolete for the next several centuries when the science consensus reached 99.9% for global warming causes. There is only one way to travel without stealing more than your fair share of resources from future generations and that does not include motorhomes unless they are you only residence. Use busses, trains or bicycles for longer trips. I have no sort of 'slow charging' issue with mine becuse I use it responsibly as my only transportation. Just plug it in each time I get back home for easy L1 charging. In 18 months I have never run my battery down below 40% charge. L2 charging is for those in a hurry. No one single video can nullify the greatness of a vehicle.

@@popeyegordon You just made my entire point that this is for local travel only (and vacation rental use). You just wanted to blow hot gas about how you never leave home and we're stealing (whatever that means) resources because we do. Get a life.

@@papasquat355 You are the very epitome of what is killing our biome. We know how to handle you - a carbon or mileage tax on your vehicle use. EV drivers and environmental remediation projects will benefit from the taxe penalties you pay when you refuse to refrain from using more than your fair share of resources, thus stealing more than what you need from future generations who will miss it. I can travel far from home all I want without making our problem worse, it is called public transportation. But I also refuse to fly until we have more electric planes. There are not enough in service yet. Train travel is a delight.

@@popeyegordon You sure do get worked up when people agree with you. I'd hate to hear you if they don't agree. Good day sir.

@@papasquat355 That didn't happen. You tried to peg this as a special use vehicle when it actually has a broad appeal. Owners report that once they get one their car sits unused in the driveway.

Yes. You are the only one. Reverting back to the use of fossil fuels would be a huge mistake that Arcimoto would never consider. EVs are the least complex vehicles, hybrids are the most complex.

The steering fix was completed several months ago. All new vehicles have a hard time when starting out because it is a very expensive undertaking and this one is a new concept which requires out or the box thinking to understand what it offers. On top of that they started up just as a pandemic and a war economy hit!

@@popeyegordon their range is very low.. many reviewere were worried about even making it to 60 miles on a full charge.. Initiially i was invisioning this vehicle as a good fleet vehicle for USPS and Traffic controll operations or beach patrols or parking enforcement operations etc. but looks like these things are not even in the vision there.. they are mostly interested in setting up dealerships for vacation rentals of these vehicles as their way to make money. I bailed months ago,, after losing 60 percent of my investment.. and it dropped suptantially more after that. had i held on.. i would be down over 95 percent. I think there are many other better options for people, that are cheaper and provide most of (and more) of what the FUV provides.. For those that can't ride an electric bicycle.. there are some recumben or semi recumbent electric 3 and 2 wheel bicycles . And those ones can be taken on public transit if needed. And those ones can be charged essentially anywhere, which adds to the convenience. this vehicle, as i see it and as i see the founder seeing it, is really just a recreational vehicle for people who like to ride motorcycles and can afford something that is more expensive than an ordinary motorcycle. It is not a vehicle for the masses, IMHO.

For a good perspective on what doors, windows and climate control does to the range and efficiency of light EVs, just look at the latest iteration of the Smart Car EV. The range is just 58 miles EPA rated. Decide if you want fun or climate control, you can't have both in a light EV.

@@popeyegordon - Since someone came up with zip up doors, what is their decrease in range. I look forward to the response. It will help out Chris on if he needs them or not. You will be a great help to this product.

Yep. That's me(and my pups 😊) at the timestamp you're mentioning! They are a custom made addition done by a very talented guy in Eugene area who is currently laid off by Arcimoto but hopefully will be back with them soon. Would be a shame for them to let him go elsewhere.

​@@billsmith5960 I'm not sure what you're asking? You think the added zip-up uppers will decrease the range? They weigh a few pounds at most so I'd say the weight is negligible. If anything, they may ADD RANGE when the uppers are installed as they increase the aerodynamic profile and reduce drag

@@timothyharris6927 - No they don't (according to a long time owner of the FUV). Having full doors on a Smart car reduces it's range to 58 miles. So, you have full doors, thus the mileage must have gone down too. This is why this owner is pushing for no full doors as they war not necessary as you never get wet or cold when driving one. I'd have to believe this poster as he posts the same phrase over and over again about full doors. Plus he's a real owner.

This video and 500 happy owners are the salve for your pain. This company was not started as a racket for get rich quick nimrod investors. The goal is a new class of more sustainable transportation. It works for me.

@@popeyegordon dont you get tired of doing that? Are you paid to comment on those videos? I think you are...

@@goncalomantas The shill gambt is an extremely lame failed debate strategy. Don't you get tired of stealing more than your fair share of resources from future generations by driving an excessively heavy and over powered steel caged climate controlled lounge couch?

Yes, yes, yes for the fourth time yes. What is wrong with you? I know for a fact you got my answer the first time.

@@popeyegordon I am sorry for always asking the same question every time

How can you tell from this video?

Range is an issue for some.

@@popeyegordon I'd question anyone who bought one thinking they'd primarily use it for off-grid road tripping or a family of five.

@@pdahandyman OK, but what does that have to do with attending a rally that requires overnight stops to charge the battery?

False. That's only the best option for money grubbing unpatriotic businesses and buyers with no loyalty to their country. I have vowed to only buy US made vehicles for my entire life. Anyone can see the YT videos of cheap Chinese vehicles that are imported and found to be lacking, needing changes to be legal on our roads. Most of them are not even capable of our highway speeds and you pay extra for lithium batteries. Buying an import is stabbing your neighbor in the back. Be American, buy American.

If they wanted to stay in the US, then move to the SE US. Eugene is an expensive place to live and thus you need to pay more. Plus, it's not really known for manufacturing. Go to places like SC and all of a sudden you are closer to suppliers and a trained labor base. Plus with a cost of living that is less, you don't have to pay as much. Just drive down 95 around Spartanburg, SC and you'll see tons of automotive manufacturing and suppliers. Plus a few huge EV battery plants.

No. This design proves 3 wheels are more practical for specific uses. You had to willfully ignore the proof to post something like this. A billion motorcycles and scooters have two wheels and yet those drivers drool with envy when they see the Arcimoto. I get the motorcycle rate on my insurance, saving me $900 every year before considering no gas to buy. It is perfect for my needs.

It was going to zero with the current product. With the next version, they will change the serious flaws in it and make it into a good selling and profitable product. Chris is the new CEO and he's doing a great job on informing us and giving us those little snippets of what the future will bring. This is why I support the company today. Change was needed and we will see the results. I'm Pro-Arcimoto!

Rune is alone in his arbitrary claim that it looks stupid. Rune's values are very wrong. In 2023, looks are not about fancy paint or sleek body panels, they are about sustainability. This beats every vehicle you think looks better because you have invalid tastes. 500 owners, thousands of renters and millions of drivers all think it is a beauty. I can't go anywhere without getting thumbs up, waves and intense questioning about my silent emissions free futuristic vehicle that is here now. Ignore the troll who tried to tell you there are serious flaws. There are only minor flaws that come with any new design, all being updated.

Your rant is ignorant. The price is just right, no other new light EV can beat this value. Mine is paying for itself in just 8 years because it is so incredibly cheap to own and operate compared to any car. They already have a huge factory and tooling investments to pay for, it can put out up to 50,000 autocycles a year. Pushing a new ebike that has not been in production yet means abandoning the very expensive factory and tooling and starting over. They did the right thing by putting the Cybertrike MLM on hold. You want to come off as some kind of pontificating manufacturing expert and yet you didn't even know what that new bike was called!

Once you actually own one of these quirky vehicles, all that doom and gloom crap doesn't matter. I spent $24K on my FUV, cheapest way to electrify my commute in SoCal, and an instant upgrade to my quality of life. Arcimoto has proven their worth to me, and I have no regrets.

@@popeyegordon You have replied to 3 of my comments on 3 different videos and EVERY time it is the dumbest thing I have eave heard. your right they should keep selling a 100 mile range no door 2 seat ev for $24,000 when you can get a EV from Chevy, Nissan, and mini with 4 doors 4 seats 250 + miles of range and faster, more comfortable, more featured, better looking full fleged cars for the same price of a 2-4K more? You are so very smart, you clearly know people, and you know that people always want to pay the same or more for something that is worse in every way.

@@barnabasseadog7660 I am happy you like it now you either have to admit that most people are not like you and would rather buy a EV from Chevy, Nissan or mini that is better in EVERY way and has at least 2.5X the range for the same $24K to 2-4K more. Do you guys understand that I want this company to succeed? you can root for a crashing and burning EV all you want, just know that It will take the company with it on the way down. they need sales and money to stay in business AND the FUV at its current price is not going to save them in any way shape or form.

@@philodox7599 And you still fail to learn a single thing about what an autocycle is or why it is so important. Once we got the warning about global warming the resonsible people are stopping their damaging behaviors which included long trips in personal vehicles. You can not deny that the average car trip is with one occupant and an empty trunk for a destination les than 3 miles away. You also reveal your innumeracy by ignoring the fact that autocycles save us $1000 a year in insurance, every year, for as long as we own them. My FUV is paying for itself in just 8 years while your cars are a never ending money pit and a waste of resources unless you have a family. I did exactly what you describe people wanting by buying my Arcimoto.