Love my impact but honestly there’s just way to much crap to go along with it. Today I killed a starling at 231 yards and a coyote at 239yards with my Vulcan 3. I know that sounds like a load of shit. But it’s the honest to god truth. If I had to give up the impact or the Vulcan it wouldn’t even be a question. I’m shooting 49.5G nsa slugs 970fps from Vulcan, and it’s consistency is absolutely mind blowing. It doesn’t matter what day of the week it is. That gun is absolutely shooting within 5fps of 970. And the barrel is rock solid!! When accuracy starts to fall apart I know it’s time to clean barrel and I’m right back on target. Honestly think 970 is a bit much, thinking of slowing down to 940-960 if I can keep same 1 inch accuracy at 100 yards. EDIT: yes my impact is amazing! And yes it can shoot slightly better then my Vulcan when I’ve got it perfectly tuned, and haven’t bumped the barrel. But keeping it perfectly tuned and never bumping the barrel is the tricky part. Yeah sure I can polish regs. And add barrel stiffener. Ect ect ect…. But I’ll take the gun that needs zero after market parts built like a tank and never breaks or looses its tune 10 out of 10 times.
That vulcan sounds like a real reliable workhorse! And yes i believe you when your saying your killing stuff at those ranges, thanks for watching mate.
I love my 35 cal impact m3 but for over 2k you would think you should have a lot of power adjustment's but you need a bunch of after market part. I shooting 105 gr slugs at 907 fps an 191fpe 2nd regulator 158 bar. I can get two mags of these tune. Huma Slug kit,delete 1st regalator,huma 2nd regulators,700cc bottle,barrel tenisioner,tungsten hammer.
This is exactly what I’m thinking I love my m3 it won’t be going anywhere but the thought of just taking the .30 vulcan out the box and it just shooting lights out is appealing
I use this on my MKII with a DonnyFl Tanto and the dB is still reasonable. Yes, a little louder but normal, as you’d expect without the OEM shroud. Mine is a .25, I shoot the Zan 33, 35 and 37gr with maximum tunes at around 1000-1020fps. Very accurate but all the Zan’s in both .22 and .25 tend to shoot great from 940-1040fps. The reason I’m commenting though is because on my M3, I have a tension shroud I made, similar to what you mentioned. I used a lock nut up front for stiffening the barrel and then removed the rear of the OEM shroud and slipped it over the carbon shroud I made. It screws on tightly up front in front of the lock nut that I machined. The OEM shroud is centered with o’rings that also stop air blow by out the rear. It is held tightly in place midway up the shroud with a TRS rail. It’s stiff, the OEM shroud over my set up keeps it very quiet and super accurate, shooting the Zan 30.5gr at 1050fps. The TRS rail covers most of it so it doesn’t look goofy. I’d post a picture here but can’t. There are close up pictures on my Instagram. kevinjstoughton Have a good one. Stoti
I have an M3 700 mm barrel, slug power kit, carbon sleeve not glued, standard superior liner 1:16, sumo moderator, in .22 with a barrel clamp and two delrin spacers bettwen the clamp and the barrel tuner shroud, in this way when I screw the shroud in towards the spacers and clamp, it creates tension in the shroud, as much as you can manually torque up the shroud against the clamp and spacers.....very simple solution, you only need 2 pieces of a 14mm ID x 19 mm OD Delrin washer and a barrel clamp that is screwed onto the place of the barrel front support....my groups also improved, I was shooting 34 gr at 960 FPS, 0.6 MoA at 54 yards...still fine tuning, hopefully I will find a better harmonics and decrease slight the group size...2nd regulator 140 bar, macro 16, Micro 4.2, valve roughly 6.5 to 7 lines....
Excellent idea Rafael , i have seen a few ideas like yours in the past, i believe ernest rowe has done a few different ideas based around the ability to torque up the shroud.i myself will probably invest in a bigger sound moderator but your ideas are definatly damn good and alot cheaper than buying the actual fx barrel tensioner kit.
@@PaulHamM3 the other benefit is that looks really neat, you dont even notice the black spacer washers between the shroud and clamp...it does not even look like it is tensioned, it just looks like a barrel tuner, which also keeps the gun quiet....I got M10 Delrin black washers and drilled 14mm hole on them because I could not find anything on the Internet at all with those dimensions, but certainly everyone has a drill at home....you probably will have to buy a drill bit 14mm from B&Q or something like that....half of the barrel towards the breach block is held very tightly by the clamp and barrel screw at the transfer port, and the other half of the barrel + shroud is under tension....it looks very nice, not visible to the ordinary Joe:)))...
@@gewoneou4719 hi, I used the one from a gentleman in Dubai or somewhere around there...I saw a RU-vid video, did some Google search and found his online shop, I think the holder is the only thing he sells...USD 95.00...PayPal and delivery to many countries...including UK....I hope it helps.
Nice video, interesting point with the extra noise. I’ve got the clamp fitted but no tensioner, noticeable results. As much as I love the m3 I think I need to try the agt Vulcan 3 in .25 Or .30 🤔
Thanks for watching sam,the noise is incredibly loud compared to what it was doing before, i will see if there is some way of getting a shroud to fit or maybe a different sound mod.
Haha funny you say that, read my post above. Love my Vulcan soo much I’m Actually going to buy the new uragan 2 in .25 soon as it comes out. Has same specs as Vulcan but more stock options and slightly better engineering.
My friend, you can put the original shroud over de carbon tensioner. Take off the part that is glued. Just need to close the space at the end off the original shroud to the air dont escape from back. 🤟👍
@@PaulHamM3 Yes, I removed the original shroud from the gun and on the back where the piece is screwed on, I heated it up a little with a hot air gun for the glue to break. Heat it up a little until some smoke starts to come out. Then hold the piece with pliers and try to unscrew everything of the shroud.Place something between the pliers and the piece to not scratch.At start, it will come out without problem.When that is done, just screw the shroud in the carbon tensioner and place the silencer in the shroud.in the end, just arrange a shape to cover the rear so the air doesn't come out. a little bit of tape around it to test.
@@FMSA86 so your removing the cone shape end that slides over the barrel ? Would it be possible that you could send me some photos to my email address ? Sorry for all the questions but i would really like to see the finished results ? Paulham49@gmail.com
Just found your vid as I’m considering buying one of these kits. I was, additionally, going to include the carbon fibre stiffener that fits directly around the liner - did you consider one of these or is it unnecessary? You do answer one concern I had - namely the likelihood of additional noise. Did you ever find a shroud to fit or, did you go down the larger mod route? Would appreciate an update on how you’ve got on with the rifle subsequently. Thanks for posting, very informative 👍
@@mikeyb9819 since i done this video i have removed the barrel tensioner and just use the standard barrel with the carbon fiber sleeve, i found that long term the kit didnt really help with any point of impact shift, i did keep the rear barrel holder block fitted though and as of now ( three years) its all been ok, sometimes i get a point of impact shift, sometimes not, i dont really understand it.
Good question mate! I suppose you could say its a question of harmonics and how any type of tensioning device affects accuracy. I myself havent ever used a barrel band but it would be interesting to see if a cheaper product would do the same thing.
@@PaulHamM3 I use the barrel band with the FX Harmonic barrel tunner and getting interesting results. much better than without it shooting at 75 yards. I was just curious. Dont have the Tensioner kit to compare. They make it sound like at 100 yards its shooting very tight. thanks for the input!!
@@nephtalilucero8084 i think that whatever you fit to your rifles barrel will either affect its accuracy in a good or a bad way. My main reason for adding the tension kit was to tighten everything up so i would stop losing my zero, maybe a barrel band could do the same job?.
how are you getting the cracking sound if the projectile is under the speed of sound? I'm a little confused. you do need a better moderator though. my donny fl koi reduces the shot down to 75.4db. the standard fx old style mod is not that great.
Thanks for the comment, firstly let me appologise for the confusion when i said "cracking" i didnt mean the slug is breaking the sound barrier, i meant that the muzzle report is extremley loud without the shroud fitted as this is what helps keep the sound down. Check out my other video and you will see how i remedied this issue without having to buy another sound mod. On a seperate note i am currently in the process of getting another fx rifle ( .25 crown) and i will be getting a donnyfl sumo,so i might do a little video on what mods are quietest downrange. Cheers for watching.
Yes...i recived my barrel tension kit..and now my gun is with donny FL shogun so loud that i cant shoot zan 30gr over 1000fps in my backyard....and the tension kit bring's a bit of tension but it is definetly not the holy grayl....maybe the huma Air tension kit.....but fx sucks and the quality is not good for they prices
I think thats why FX started selling the carbon fibre sleeve and why they brought out this barrel tensioner, but its all a question of harmonics i guess.
Yes, installed the tenshioning kit last night, shot it empty in my garage, the cracking sound was way way so loud that it made a whole in my soul, when i removed the shroud as i am installing it, i knew its gonna bark, but that was too loud even with my Wheirough moderator on, that used to silent the gun to mechanism sound only
When installing the 800mm and only the new block that clamps the barrel you can easely screw on the old shroud for only 2 or 3 turns, then measure the distance between the schroud and the block and make a piece on the lathe to fit inbetween. This way you can tension the 800mm barrel using the original shroud. I think that you could use a longer shroud from the 800mm .35 barrels but i am not sure because the short shroud looks kinda weird. I'm also working on a super moderater to fit the 800mm tensioner kit. What i also notice is that your valve is verry far out to the front and that makes me think that you installed the hammer power kit and spring and also "THE RUBBER BALL". With the newest models M3 you realy don't need that rubber ball because there is a rubber stop in the valve. So when you take out the rubber ball you will gain travel in the valve and also gain power and you would still be on line 4.
You have some great ideas my friend and the one about the super moderator sounds like a excellent idea. As for the front valve on my M3, everything on my M3 is a early standard model and i dont have any extras such as a slug power kit or any rubber balls fitted in the valve, i was aware that some people tried to fit the slug power kit to there early M3s and ended up having issues but i didnt bother, my valve is 14mm off the block and gives me excellent accuracy and consistancy, i do have other tunes but i prefer this one as i get the best performance out of my M3.
@@PaulHamM3 oh that explains why you have the valve so far out... ok no problem everyone hzs his own gun anx makes his own tune ! about the super moderater... it will be 2/3 over the barrel up to the bottle and 1/3 beyound the barrel to keep the 800mm short as possible. Updates come soon i have finished the project.
@@moekakke my tune was given to me by liam at wildman slugs uk and it worked first time ( check out my M3 video) my friend also bought a .25 M3 700mm sniper and that tune also worked great but before hand he had fitted a slug power kit and had all sorts of issues.
@@PaulHamM3 the most important for me is that the POI shift is zero with this tensioner kit. Also tuning the harmonics is verry easy, you just tighten or loosen the barrel. I have done about everything that i could do to increase power... if i wanted i could go way more but i'm only shooting .22 36grainers so no need for that. And also the bark that comes with the tune to 40 grain slugs is at this time (without goog silencer) just too much and not backyardfriendly. I have the regulators on 195 and 160 bar, i reordered the belleville springs in the second regulator, installed the power block, slug power kit with tungsten hammer, huma barrel transferport, 800mm tensioned barrel, high power slug pin probe... I got everything perfect now i just going to setup the looks a bit better by adding the saber long rail and offcourse a big ass silencer.
@@moekakke awesome buddy,you really have pimped your M3 out. Like you say, the POI shift is now zero with the tensioner kit fitted where before it was forever losing it.
Im glad its not to loud for you with the Tanto fitted, but you are also shooting a lighter weight projectile at a slower speed than me. I am yet to test my pellet tune with this set up ( same as you,hades at 900fps) thanks for watching jeff.
Fall on it and see what happens to it. It's a bench gun not made for hunting really! If u add on all the extras to make it right, then it's to Heavy! BS barrel liner is 8mm thick!
That depends on the type of hunting/shooting, you do. Because i am physically disabled,all my shooting is done from a all terrain vehicle or a pick up and generally weight is not an issue. Thanks for watching my video.
Two things hinder the Impact . A weak valving with inconsistency in velocity . The barrel is to flimsy for the weight on the slugs and velocity shooters are looking for . FX is going to have to do some homework , there are new players out there .
I agree, the liner system does need a complete overhaul, its a complete lottery if you get a decent one and whilst my M3 has been accurate and consistant, plenty others havent.
@@PaulHamM3 I have spent a lot of money upgrading my MKII 3rd generation to be as close to the M3 . I purchased a 30 caliber Skout Epoch a few months back . It is expensive out of the box but has not given me any problems . I shoots better and more accurately than my Impact 22 caliber which I have spent a lot of time trying to dial in . The valving to the plenum has always been an issue , which contributes to a less than ideal group at distance . If you get an opportunity to shoot the Skout Epoch , I think you will like it .
My valve is out 14mm off the block and has absolutly nothing to do with the increased noise, this is caused by the removal of the barrel shroud.in the years since i uploaded this video i have sinced decided to not use the barrel tension kit as it didn't really make a difference to POI shift in the long run.
