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G18 REQUIRED! FULL X-Treme X-Men Play Test and STATS BREAKDOWN! MARVEL Strike Force 

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@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Had some people DM me on Discord commenting about Nightcrawlers enhanced focus on his ult. This is true, and why at least in Test Drive that we see this to work and strip. If anyones actually used the ult with a 3 piece x-men in raids right now, at least at 3Y3R (mine) it does not. So there is some benchmark between what I have and what the test drive is in terms of the focus threshold. Keep in mind the test drive is fully maxed out. I suspect that Nightcrawler will need to be in the 5Y5R range at least with the ult focus to strip, but thats G18 as well. I also want people to keep in mind this is D0 we're talking about, think about added difficulties to this raid...
@Christopher-ro5xp
@Christopher-ro5xp 6 месяцев назад
Will running NC as skirmisher work?
@krysis54
@krysis54 6 месяцев назад
Full Xtreme can one shot all three nodes easily. G18 7rs gambit, gt16 1diamond cyclops, gt16 4rs nightcrawler, g18 3rs forge, g14 2rs sunspot. I did that easily so it could be done smaller. It's not about clearing all the buffs on beta ray bill, he can't taunt because of sunspot and when he does retaliate or take a turn, he doesn't hit. Teen lokis died without even trying.
@swiftnapalm7089
@swiftnapalm7089 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for taking the time to do a deep dive - always appreciated! Happy New Year (soon anyway lol)!
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Same to you!
@Anonymous_Virus
@Anonymous_Virus 6 месяцев назад
Just give them a 500% focus buff in raids
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
I mean yeah if Cyclops enhanced the teams focus to even 200% across the board this might be enough. Funny thing is everyone was saying 200% for the longest time, but it's only 100. Which 100% is good, but compared to how insane these resists are... and will only grow with higher difficulties.
@sebastiankowalski826
@sebastiankowalski826 6 месяцев назад
THX amd HAPPY NEW YEAR :)
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Happy new year!
@yehuo2825
@yehuo2825 6 месяцев назад
nice vid! when i test full xxm, i also faced similar issues as you and came to a conclusion that msf is doing the same bs as i1.x, so it seems like msf wants you to get your units to g17 - g18 to be able to struggle i2.0 - 2.2 and then i2.3+ you need g18 - g19 to struggle thru.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
I mean there is still that chance they just add 100% more focus on to Cyclops passive which may alleviate the low star issue. But, if they don't then yeah you're basically expected to have G18 Level 95+ F2P to make up for the lack of star stats.
@yehuo2825
@yehuo2825 6 месяцев назад
@@Boilon maybe msf wants more f2p and low spenders to quit!
@silvioguidi7268
@silvioguidi7268 6 месяцев назад
there is another thing that we all are forgetting. those teen lokis in raid hit like a truck couse of they're passive. when a bifrost in raid has a regen he will always counterattack. and that is what's making them so nasty to deal with in raid. but in the test drive they're not CAing couse it's not a raid, so wonder how long we can survive trying to remove they're buffs. when we fail, they simply CA and demolish our characters
@danutghidia5820
@danutghidia5820 6 месяцев назад
Nightcrawler has a 500% focus bonus on ult, thats why he removes all of them consistently
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
He may do, but that is also dependent on his base stat focus when its multiplied. If he's low stars it still won't be enough to do so RELIABLY. But, it's still better than Forge (who is garbage in focus).
@beardy7124
@beardy7124 6 месяцев назад
There giving more shards earlier so this is how they make it hurt. We’re going to struggle until we max out.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Naw shards is still the same for new characters, just we can farm them much earlier. They have been adding the passes though for new characters very quickly. 4-Star within a month is reasonable. Then the waiting game for farmability.
@gregmartinez7881
@gregmartinez7881 6 месяцев назад
It’s a similar team to wakanda war dogs with how they work but more offense. Idk about sustain anymore though man I think on some of these nodes we do lose someone and have to revive them in the match I think they’re designed that way now
@FranklinMorrison
@FranklinMorrison 6 месяцев назад
Do your numbers take into account Sunspot gives offense up on spawn that gives a focus boost? It is only first turn but that focus for the start is important. That means that NC should be able to remove bifrost buffs with Ult when you add another 50% focus from offense up.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
The Off Up from sunspot isn't really relevant to comparing the full team since in every scenario they will have it anyways, minus the 3-piece example currently. It's not clear actually WHEN Offense Up gives the boost, if it is before or after something like Cyclops passive is applied, which matters. But, when you compare it to the Test Drive, Forge still can't clear buffs, so we know that his isn't good enough (w Off Up) when you reference the Focus from chart, so it has to be higher than his still with offense up. We know what Forge's focus is at the Test Drive level, so all characters would have to have more than his base.
@lordmanshoon4
@lordmanshoon4 6 месяцев назад
It seems Xtreme X-men needs all characters really big to work well instead of Bifrost/Pegasus that huge Vahl/Kestrel kinda do their thing and you can save a lot of resources as f2p (not sure huge Nightcrawler can do it alone - mine at 4y4r and no osmium so no point now). It may be an issue to force players buying character offers but even if at max lvl they still are pretty bad when landing their hits, I wouldn't be willing to do it - they might be short-lived like Bionic Avengers/Web Warriors if no rework is in process.
@mattshort1144
@mattshort1144 6 месяцев назад
What ISO level are your calculations factored off of? ISO blue 3, 4 or 5? May have missed but not sure if was explicitly stated.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
it is 5. In the non Skirmisher instance its only going to make a differnece of 2% focus BASE STAT (which is actually functionally less the way they add it up) per level.
@Athelox
@Athelox 6 месяцев назад
raid team that´s dead on arrival.. way to go, Scopely, reminds me of the "apex raid team" of Wakanda back then
@kjdoomjr
@kjdoomjr 6 месяцев назад
I couldn't finish the boss in the trial even with the maxout. its so lame they keep putting iconic characters into weakly built teams. This scandal has to be the nesting doll for prof x, and the potential Excalibur team, and thats why we got this struggle team so fast.
@gregmartinez7881
@gregmartinez7881 6 месяцев назад
But what this means is we may have to manual these because we have to manage the cool downs and start the boss mode with basically everything available
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Well, I mean there will be some ability of Sunspot to charge them up ability energy wise, but through the Test Drive the only one reliably to clear buffs seemed to be Nightcrawler, but at MAXED. This is not a reasonable expectation for F2P so I think if he's not high enough stars or G18 minimum then he'll struggle to do what he can in the test drive.
@hawkeyes2814
@hawkeyes2814 6 месяцев назад
How do you beat this node, I keep running out of time
@TheMarosse
@TheMarosse 6 месяцев назад
Already have gambit 18. Gonna take them tô lvl 85 amd see If its enough like Pegasus and bifrost
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
I don't think it will be unless you got like 6-7Y. Sunspot is the only one i see being fine at 4Y possibly.
@ricko5364
@ricko5364 6 месяцев назад
Isn't the first strike designed for the f2p and 2.0 regular for the more advanced raid alliances ? You said it, this is going to be the norm, I thought it had been since Incursion 1. Usually, the highest tier/difficulty is not overly f2p friendly.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
They've never been clear about their intents ever. The reason the new one (well just powered up) version was released because they claimed technical errors preventing 2.3+ (now first strike)
@ricko5364
@ricko5364 6 месяцев назад
@Boilon And they probably never will 🤣🤣 sadly, the "recommendation" in the information box on the raid screen is probably our best source of information 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@ltoz
@ltoz 6 месяцев назад
Curious how this will play out with level 100 and ~ g16
@josephb6825
@josephb6825 6 месяцев назад
Was thinking the same. This is all tuned to lvl 100…which sucks BUT it does mean it is possible just expensive.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
There is a possibility level 100 will have some crazy focus scaling or something. This could change things so you don't have to G18, but keep in mind the stat gap between G16-G18 is pretty huge so not sure levels alone would compensate. This still means you're spending a lot of gold on them though if not gear.
@ltoz
@ltoz 6 месяцев назад
yeah, basically pick your poison.
@dalrunin4138
@dalrunin4138 6 месяцев назад
What would diamonds do for this team? Diamond 3 on all the chars? Again, not F2P friendly, but diamonds are in game and spenders would be able to do that now. Level 100 and gear tier 19 are expected additions to the game, which would make Xtreme Xmen better.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
I mean obviously I didn't really include diamonds because it's a bit unreasonable for F2P to expect this especially on new characters, and keep in mind you need 7Y just to activate diamonds. We don't know the power scaling of level 100, but its mentioned in the video. A lot of people just think Sunspot is going to make things okay for low stars and F2P, but frankly the way things are, it won't be.
@dalrunin4138
@dalrunin4138 6 месяцев назад
@@Boilon I only mentioned diamonds because you had one char, cyclops, with diamond stats. I believe you mentioned that even whales are struggling with the raid. I think diamonds are much like red stars when they first came out. Scopely said they weren't going to tune content for red stars, when they first introduced them. Red stars were completely random. No silver or gold promo credits, not even red star fragments if you got a duplicate. But content was quickly geared for red stars, before any of the targeted promo credits. Diamonds feel the same way. If not the current top raid, then definitely future raids will require diamonds on chars in order to complete.
@Fate26
@Fate26 6 месяцев назад
If the nodes are not beatable with 4y and 4r then what’s the point in buying the character? Just wait until it’s farmable.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Buying the character would get you shards ahead then F2P, I mean it makes the difference between an early 4 or 5-star before farmable, or higher if you splurge. But, if you're talking about light spending then yeah it's not a huge difference, if you want things NOW then you gotta pay up for it.
@jonathanwinkles3902
@jonathanwinkles3902 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for doing all the Math.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
My pleasure!
@Alexczy
@Alexczy 6 месяцев назад
Gt18???? Daaaamn
@Anonymous_Virus
@Anonymous_Virus 6 месяцев назад
Forge Focus Sucks!!!! HE Couldn't Clear His Dinner Plate!! I have him at 5/5 g16 t2 level 5 iso skirmisher and still doesn't clear shizz...
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Yeah his focus is pretty awful. Would need a larger Cyclops passive, or adding Focus to the skills in raids.
@nichlasfrost2960
@nichlasfrost2960 6 месяцев назад
Besides the obvious part of NC ult, I don't see you adress the fact that the units we get to use at g18 lvl 95, by no means hold the stats an actual g18 lvl 95 unit with the same amount of y/r would. Take NC just as an obviously example as you showcase his stats later in the video, a 7y7r iso 5 NC should be in the area of 440k power, the one we get to use is 338k power. Same goes for the entire rest of the team. So while this is a "deep" dive of sorts, I don't think it by any means represent the actual power of the team. My gambit is g17 lvl 95 and he does more dmg on his attacks than the one we get to use, and I've seen videos of a 7y7r NC ingame demolishing wave 1 on the boss node dmg wise, so again take it with a grain of salt, the team is not what we have, I'm not sure what frankenbride we got to play with, but the ingame is world better
@aznkukuboi
@aznkukuboi 6 месяцев назад
I'm starting to think they tuned this for level 100.
@dislikecounter5191
@dislikecounter5191 6 месяцев назад
Somehow got lucky and simmed the boss node with deathseed minus mags with apoc. Don't have a bio raid team so not much reason to beat mutant nodes. Nice to know I don't need to build them for this lvl if they don't work.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Well. You won't need to build Hive Mind probably unless you are actively clearing Mutant daily so.
@gregmartinez7881
@gregmartinez7881 6 месяцев назад
You use forges special first copy all effects from BRB spread to team then night crawlers ult strips all the buffs from
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
I mean if cooldowns were properly managed in the real raid that is more plausible. No point in ulting on Forge given his shit focus he won't clear it.
@tonyk4615
@tonyk4615 6 месяцев назад
I’m going to disagree with this. None of my xtreme x-men are tier 18. My alliance started doing the new incursion 2 raid the day it was released. I’m ftp “adjacent”. My NC is only 2 stars. I’ve been using the 3 piece plus apoc and AA and soloing my lane. (The boss node is always by committee). I’m seeing Forge’s biggest use on war defense.
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
You do know this entire video is still about the boss node. I can do the first two nodes as well.
@tonyk4615
@tonyk4615 6 месяцев назад
@@Boilon lol. Fair. I have a habit about responding in real time while I’m watching and not going back to revise my comments. But you’re right. I should probably watch the whole thing before commenting!
@jasonrice6966
@jasonrice6966 6 месяцев назад
Already told my alliance that if this isn't fixed then can kick me because I am done. Like a idiot I already have $200 in NC and Forge and if they don't work at 5y5r I am done. I'm not playing a game that decides if shit works or not based on if I spent enough.
@tommyliu7020
@tommyliu7020 6 месяцев назад
I only spent cores to unlock them
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
Sunspot likely will be fine if they're maxed. Nightcrawler and Forge might be not. 5Y5R though is functionally a fair bit stronger than 3 or 4 though. Typically after a F2P event a character is like 3.5 to 4 star max.
@mrspidermr21
@mrspidermr21 6 месяцев назад
You would open with Nightcrawlers ult in the actual raid. So this shows nothing
@Boilon
@Boilon 6 месяцев назад
It shows everything lol. Did you miss the part of Forge and Nightcrawlers ult testing? Watch the full video and check the focus stats.
@wingchild4446
@wingchild4446 6 месяцев назад
Cry in free 2 play. Game created by greedhuman
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