G2A Is So Bad Developers Would Rather You Pirate Their Games Than Buy From It 

Oh Todd!

God howard

Bugthesda yay Todd

Is it just endless approved torrents of fallout 76? Cause that's just evil Todd, your not EA...not yet.

😀oh really... Tehehehe

Pirate AAA games, buy indie games. Everyone wins!

Even then you'll be supporting G2A, which means you'd also be supporting fucking over indie (and any other) devs.

In case for lads who live under a rock/missed the joke, it a throw back on EA about loot box is a "suprise mechanic"

LMFAO 🤣😂

@Riedy bought whole sims 3 with al xpacs years ago. My sister can still play. Hope EA rots away.

Ok everyone, ask people to make fraud EA keys!

*I N T E R E S T I N G*

GENIUS

This is old news, TB covered this years ago. Since then, i've only used G2A to buy games i want to play but are from companies that enjoy screwing their customers, so EA, Ubisoft etc.

💡💡💡💡

Devs have also suggested pirating games when countries like Australia ban them.

That too.... The hotline miami dlc for payday 2 was given away for free to australians aswell. Since, hotline miami is banned there

The creator also made a patch for the torrent version, before he himself uploaded it, if Im not mistaken.

Yea, i think so

darkwood developers did the same, g2a seems to be a really shit place to buy games...

Good times...

Pepperidge farm remembers.

Didn't know Randy was capable of being talked out of anything. Maybe he should be talked out of being a CEO and stealing his employee's bonuses too.

It seems he likes shitty stores.

Didn't total biscuit have a talk with Randy Pitchford about g2a?

I think a lot of people were pirating the games anyway, but now they can do that and also feel good that they're "helping" indie developers.

I only pirate if I don't want to support the company, RIP Freeshop, bless Wii U USB Helper

@@ashurean I mean the Devs have a point if you are only willing to buy it at a massive discount from a fraudulent site that will cost them hundreds of thousands in chargebacks and investigations the pirates are better people.

@@NottJoeyOfficial Do you know something like Wii U USB Helper for Switch?

I thought they went at least semi legit a while ago. The prices were low as hell when they were full shady. Now the difference isn’t worth putting your CC and personal info into it.

Its silly but its true. Let me break to you how some of the deals work. A. Steals CC info. Buys games from the dev. and sells them on G2A for half of that price (or a 20% cut if its new or something). THEN the card owner is like " shit my CC info was stolen and used? block the card and do a chargeback to get the money. NOW the thing is. The chargeback happens to the devs. not G2A, so the devs. need to siphon through all that fallout, they loose money AND manpower to find and block all the keyes that were wrongfully bought. AND THEN the devs. get shit talked from people that bough the stolen keyes as to " WhY IsNt My KeY wOrKinG". So yes, in this regard pirating is less of a hassle for the dev.

@StraightupGamer not if you know how to avoid viruses and bitminers

@StraightupGamer i dont know how to react to this

@StraightupGamer Pirating games is actually pretty safe for the most part. If it's from a "trusted" cracker group and the torrent is from one of the more known sites and has many seeders then you likely won't get any viruses. Now that's not to say that you should pirate games though. I actually got a malware on my pc recently from downloading a game from a site called myabandonware I think, it's some site where people upload games that you can't buy anymore because they were abandoned and nowhere up for sale. I wanted to play a game that I used to play when I was a kid, however it didn't start on my PC. The exe did have a surprise for me though. So yeah, if you download something from some shitty site like that, then that's pretty risky. Of course it was my fault but I really wanted to play that game again :D

@@tabushka292 What was that game you wanted to play once more?

We should buy every game from EA using G2A so that their stock goes negative.

😒 Fuckers robbed me my bit monies. Let's just say that their "customer support" is a surprise mechanic since it doesn't exist. SURPRISE!!! 😒 *mxm*

... total biscuit died before bulletstorms hd rerelease came out

@@DuckRotation The Gearbox/G2A thing happened in April 2017

most gamer streamers would advertise even cocaine to kids if it was legal and someone offered them money for it. They are not exactly the most ethical or balanced kind of people

@@theguardian8317 There are plenty of good people on Twitch, problem is that there are lots of shitheads too.

@@ZakTheFallen Eyyy just like in everything else.

That’s because their affiliation program is open to ANYONE. All you have to do is sign up, and you get commission if someone uses your link.

They sponsore big personalities in eSports and offering them discounts on games. They also get the influencer to defend them so I wouldn't any of trust those streamers.

surprise discounts

GOLD

You should not buy anything at G2A - First - if the key is not stolen, you give EA money. Second - if you hate these companies, just dont buy there games.

@@dewinteryageu i think you missed the joke

As long as it's made by bioware

ShroudedWolf51 Holy shit

That's disgusting.

Yeah, they seem totally destroyed, haven't seen a game from them since.

Forget tinyBuild. They're the jackanapes who sell games on GOG, then refuse to update them. They deserve whatever they get.

Name I think that’s why they’re now more of a publisher than a developer now.

This is news to you? That's been going on for years. G2A's 'controversy' has been going on for years. This whole thing boils down to *he-said, she-said* with indie devs trying hard to protect their businesses, and G2A lapdogs telling everyone people like Jim Sterling are just making up controversy for views. There are just as many G2A supporters as their are G2A haters or they wouldn't be thriving as they are.

Who are some of the sponsored you tubers?

It really is a sad state of affairs that people would sell their morals for a quick buck. But that's just the world we live in.

Agreed with Komamura, it has been going on I don't know for how long but few years back this thing is a thing. The G2A is fraud basically. But yea ever since I still noticed whenever I watch RU-vid video or Twitch there's still someone being sponsored by G2A.

It doesn't matter who the sponsored tubers are. They're here for a payday and G2A is willing to pay them. Do I agree with it? No. But if it puts food on the table, it's their deal with the devil. Most you can do is simply spread the facts, and not argue with people about it. In the end being sponsored by G2A is no different than being sponsored by a skin gambling website. it's only harming those who buy into the scam (except it's the other way around for those who use G2A).

guild wars 2 blocks your account if u buy addons or the game from there xD

If I see youtubers that are sponsored by G2A, I stop watching them, and dislike any of their videos that youtube recommends to me. (I'm looking at you MxR Skyrim mod reviews!) There's no way they don't know the damage that G2A does, with as much documented fraud that G2A has participated in.

But you should buy EA games from that

@@nitishkapur8193 I would never endorse such an awesome suggestion.

@@dude-bz2bc Seriously? I wonder how they separate the keys.

I was about to post this.

Another reminder that Gearbox are sluts - if the Epic Games shit didn't clue you in to that :P

More like a "bromance"

@@vlc-cosplayer randy is a poison.

Smug Anime Girl Randy thinks squirting is magic. Literal magic. No words.

heck now im sad again

Aura Rowe So these are well known for this shit then?! When I'm looking for a good deal on ps plus I've saw G2A and considered using them in the past but ended up using my regular choice of cd keys instead

@@markwheeler4245 One thing on G2A is, people buy bulk in regions where keys are cheaper because of the financial situation, and then re-sell the keys for like 800 % markup, which is still way cheap in financially strong regions. Abusing a pricing system that is trying to be fair to gain a large profit, easy money. G2A is fucking garbage.

@@cynictrash3814 in a perfect world G2A would just act as a sale extender. Buying keys when they are cheap like now. But ya unfortunately its very largely just fraud, stolen cc's, etc.

I was just thinking the same thing. May he Rest In Peace.

Its funny how at one point, that was one of the worst games on steam, when it looks a damn sight better than what would come later, lol

I thought that came play looked familiar. I haven’t seen that game in almost a decade.

Yep, got a good chuckle out of me.

Took me a minute to realize you weren't talking about bully.

cough Nintendo cough

I was looking to see if G2A is legit because some of the 20 year old games that are still full priced on steam are very cheap on G2A. I think I will just go ahead and buy it off of G2A, because the studio that made the game has been out of business for 10 years.

Same.

:( now im sad.

Yes... though I am glad I can still listen to a cynical englishman talking about the video game industry. That's nice.

Stop making people sad

He'd be so pissed about how the gaming industry is going.

It's all part of the plan.

Good news i know where to buy epic exclusive games at now

@@nerdler7468 the enemy of my enemy is my friend. lol

I already have

@@rezcellent Keep spending Rez. Keep spending

Then you're a dumbass. You just wasting money to who know what, could be terrorists. Just pirate the games like the devs said. OR... actually buying games from legit sources?

@@SteveL11 EA... Legit.... Right...

Yep, will be buying all EA games from g2a from now on!

If they knew they were stolen and you could prove they knew yes.However it's very difficult to prove especially with digital goods. The laws their but the evidence isn't worst case they can be fined for being negligent like that will do much

The best approach would be a law suit. If the software houses can get granted by the courts access to G2A records stating how many of their keys have been sold by G2A and demonstrate that it was first and foremost a marketplace for fraudulently-obtained goods. I don’t reckon they’d be able to sue for damages (G2A can claim no knowledge) but they could go for an injunction on the grounds that it would then be clear that it was predominantly illegal use.

Nope. G2A cant know what games are stolen. So they dont know theyre selling stolen property. And so theregor arent a fence. Not their fault. According to the law, and the law has to remain that way in order to protect every other reseller. Sucks. But its the way it has too be.

Johnathan Era hence my suggestion of seeking an injunction. If a group of indies can establish that a significant portion of sales is illegal, then it becomes much harder for them to say “we don’t know”.

G2a can use the middle-man excuse legally because they're not dealing with the any stolen goods. Credit from the credit cards was the thing that was "stolen", so technically the keys were lawfully obtain; at the point of purchase; in the eyes of the key vendor. You're are right the law needs to catch up with intangible goods. I wouldn't say a car was stolen if it was bought with money from a bank heist.

The unexpected money losses are surprise mechanics, and we think they are quite ethical.

They're a private company, they can do whatever they want... /s

It's not fraud, it's a surprise fine.

I'll probably buy all EGS exclusives through them for the EGS platform.

They very well could. It would be nice if we could get the facts straight on this issue. Developers lose money when games are bought with stolen credit cards. G2A literally doesn't have to exist for that, and people would find other ways to sell such game keys if G2A didn't exist - for example, ebay! In fact, you can do this right now. ebay literally acts as a second G2A in the key resell market already. Discussing issues is fine but good lord. Must the facts be so messed up all the time? This gets us nowhere. When G2A dies, then well, ebay ain't gonna. Please fucking realize what the problem is.

Yep, G2A has always been a great spot for fraud and money laundering! BuT iT's NoT tHeIr FaUlT tHeY'rE jUsT tHe MiDdLe MaN

Wasn't there a SCOTUS case this session that puts a crack into the "We're just the middleman" defense? IIRC it was a lawsuit against Apple about unfair practices in their app store, tried to pull the "we're just a platform to sell apps, not an actual store" And the liberal justices + Kavanaugh of all people shot that down, at least in an antitrust setting.

And Darkwood is a damn good game as well.

its a beautiful fucking game. so good. so immersive. better than most horrror games out there.

I first torrented the game to try it out. After dying horribly while huddled behind a drawer inside the first safehouse, I bought it on Steam. Never in my life have I screamed like a little girl while getting torn to shreds by savage dogs and been actually happy about it.

Was about to post the same thing, gg to the Devs.

I followed Darkwood on IndieDB long before they applied for Steam Greenlight. The devs are really amazing, competent at what they do and genuinely care about the game they're making. The second it went on Early Access, I bought it. It was pretty rough around the edges back then, haven't really played since. Gonna have to give it another go with all this high praise being said about it.

surprise mechanics on the company bank account

@@Van-Leo Na that's Randy Pitchford mate xD

Turns out Gearbox magic is actually just piss

Same.

@@aceflibble Why would you google PC games? That's what Steam is for.

@@SupermassiveGaming cause steam does not show legitimate gameplay only crappy ass in game cinematic trailer crap

Most people either don't know or don't care, all they see is the lower prices.

@@SupermassiveGaming It is easier to search games on a browser than Steam's clunky store lol. Even if it's just the web version of Steam.

Lmao you are so full of shit I can smell it from here

I remember that. It was pretty much my first exposure to G2A, so thankfully I hadn't ever used the site prior to that coming out. The most wild thing was at the time people defending buying from G2A as just being a "smart, responsible consumer" and taking the best deals that they could. But like... you're only getting those deals by making use of a site skirting the law to begin with, so at that point wouldn't the "smartest" thing you could do as a consumer be to just pirate the game for even less cost?

Iirc they also uploaded a cracked version of 'No Time To Explain' where the only hat you could wear was a pirate hat. Other than that it was the full original release.

No kidding, Descenders looks like everything I wanted as a kid when I did time trials on racing games!

It's a good game! I've had it installed for close to a year now and still do a run now and then. You should know it's extremely challenging... like I haven't beaten half of the levels and I'm *STILL* not exactly sure what some of the controls do or how they're intended to be used, but I think that's a deliberately high skill ceiling. The music's great too.

Me too, I don't really hear of it. Its not a good sign that I am only hearing of it on a video pointing out that its BS.

Manored People don’t like it because it takes money away from developers. That’s essentially it. Bit if you don’t care about the developer, like they most likely don’t care about you, then who cares? Maybe if we keep buying these games off G2A, these developers will make some decent games and own up to their mistakes.

Ain't that the truth, I bought a physical copy of Stardew Valley 2 years ago for $20 (down from $30) and even at $30 it would've been completely worth it.

that also goes for kinguin

I'm still going to buy from g2a because it's cheaper

I recall that Digital Homicide was using this site to sell steam keys.

Goes for any unauthorized key resellers. I mean why in the world would they charge extra for "protection fee" if there are keys that do not work, sounds exactly like they already know that the game keys themselves were from shady sources that ain't exactly legit.

Go away or i shall taunt you some more...

No silly means that it is at worst annoying but harmless this site sounds like a place of fraud and theft.

@@pathora44 it's a Monty Python reference

WHAT!!!......is your favourite game ?

I fart in G2A’s general direction!

Sadly ya boi gada get payed food costs money and Google demonitizes him

I have a hard time getting angry at most channels who are sponsored by shady sites. But if it goes much beyond that...

@@android19willpwn I can understand a smaller channel struggling to get a decemt amount of money taking their deals but big channels have little excuse other than not caring or greed. MxR for example, with almost 2 million subs, has no excuse. He probably has sponsors lining up

@@ragnar97 he makes very sponsor unfriendly content now and he moved to California didn't he that place is expensive potential money is not garenteed money too subs does not mean dollars in the bank

Jessie TheMedic That's no excuse for signing with such a shady company. He should have some principals and integrity at least. I'd ask for help on Patreon before I'd ever make a deal with a scummy and shady business, it makes his character look bad.

Yep, saw the title and I had to check the date cause I remembered Totalbiscuit talking about this.

Yup I remember, feel's like such a long time ago now. There's 1 game I've ever bought on one of these sites and that's Fallout 76 for £10. And that's because the Bathesda didn't give a shit when they released it so I didn't give a shit when I bought it lol

@Rzejdi He's been dead for over a year.

@Rzejdi Also, how the fuck would this ever be about him making money`?

@@megamage911 how convenient...

Devolver famously cancelled their keys en masse and basically told people to get fucked if they had a problem with it. Total chad company

Same

I am amazed dumbfucks still buy games from G2A. This stuff has been known for a *long* time.

Or ubisoft game

@@chechar3dg Yup...

Be careful bro. Big companies like EA can put the manpower into figuring out who bought illegal keys and PERMANENTLY ban/disable your game remotely. Indie devs can't afford it and that's how G2A makes its money, by preying on smaller folks. So just avoid G2A altogether.

But then you register it on THEIR platform. Those fraudulent keys rarely last a week in your library, and if they think you're doing it too much they might just disable your entire account

"eso online" soooo, elder scrolls online online? Do you work for the department of redundancy department? :P

No worse than ATM Machine that so many people say. Lol

ESO base game is 10 bucks on steam summer sale if you and your friends were still interested.

@@vcrbetamax i played for about a month back after launch and haven't really touched it since. is it worth picking up now?

Mikie Swart I would recommend it. I got back into it with the new expansion that came out. ESO and FFXIV are both really good in my opinion.

I would steal the coffin and drop your nan on the floor. I need a good bed.

she's dead :) she don't need it

I have that burned to a disk :)

When i heard they did that i bought it on steam just to show my appreciation

Wrong, they do it because their game was total ignored, no streamer was playing it so they ask to pirate it to get promotion.

I bought that game too on steam just because of that

Hey if you upload game footage atleast they get free advertising

It's not about that. It's about the charge back on the stolen credit cards.

@@Ztygs I probably should have clarified but yes you're 100% right in that the chargeback is a problem. It was what was hinted at with illegitimate copies but should have been clearer.

Why would you buy a copy after you pirated it tho? If you played through the game and got everything out of it there is no point in buying it afterwards unless it has a mp. On that note is this just G2A or keyresellers in general? I rarely buy from G2A because they have this gold protect thing which costs like 2 bucks more to protect you from false keys. Not that 2 bucks is a lot but I always thought it's shady to have such a service in general. If you sell something it should work even without buying a premium service that guarantees it to work... It's like selling a car and saying it might not turn on unless you pay another couple of bucks to guarantee it will turn on.

@@WaidoGodX To be fair I've pirated a game, ended up really enjoying it and bought a copy when I had a bit more money. I've not even played my Steam copy yet. But I wanted to support the Dev at least a little when I could. And for your question: most key reselling sites are shady at best and like the video says if it's too good a deal to be true then...

@@WaidoGodX If "doing the right thing" is not enough for you and you need an incentive, then multiplayer, achievments, steam forum discussion, steam workshop etc.

Now I'm not one to defend trash most of the time... But don't torture yourself wasting money getting Fallout 76, why would you torture yourself.

What other key stores do you use? I'm gonna stop using g2a

@@wolfboy20 I use a site called allkeyshop (.com) which compares prices, I got a lot of games 5-10% cheaper here than on G2A Only get the AAA games as keys

@@DankBoyy00 cool! Do they sell digital cards too?

@@wolfboy20 Like gift cards?

@@DankBoyy00 nah like xbox live gold and psn plus cards

@Simon WoodburyForget Not really, most things are better than piracy, G2A just isn’t one of them.

@Garett Crook True, it’s only pretty good when it’s those companies though, doing it to indie devs or actually good games with good business practices isn’t.

Really? Rather messed up

Only if you make an account just buy the game without one I love g2a it’s soo chesp

@@bobtailsquid Because the keys ar stolen. Platforms should start banning accounts that register keys that later get charged back.

@@zippo718 They dont ban the accounts but they erase the game from your library and you cant get your money back

Never happened to me. How would that even work?

I do bethesda games that way.

I do for shitty AAA games

"Surprise chargeback mechanics"

Lightbearer Deepsilver has made my list as well

Yeah, no. I'd rather EA take my money than G2A. Every purchase you make from G2A makes them richer and gives them more legitimacy.

I wish you all the best, good luck!

it's cheaper on g2a ;3

F for the greatest gaming RU-vidr that has ever graced this planet.

Be careful bro, as money into G2A in ANY form allows them to keep their store open, allowing them to rip-off more smaller devs longer. Better to bleed the whole thing dry and burn its corpse. Plus half the CoD and Battlefield keys are flagged as illegal and banned by Steam within a DAY of purchase. Not even worth the hassle.

Don't bother with EA. Their DRM is so extensive the key would be cancelled minutes after any chargebacks. They own the platform so they're way better at cancelling your keys and wasting your money than any indie company

I don't :) that's why i buy from g2a

Muzz A lot are aren't they though? A lot of the big ones anyway.

Wow, this is so powerful.

@@michaelmichaelson6766 so brave so bold

Oh, everyone loses money, it's just bigger companies have slightly more tolerance for shrink and fraud.

ya maybe the big studios can take it better so don't complain as much as a indie dev getting ruined by it.

@Joker I guess you meant to say streamer... And also a lot of youtubers (influencers) were and and some of them still are sponsored by G2A

“I don’t even know who you are!”

Sometimes, it's better not to know.

and yet every streamer and he's dog is sponsered by them. i've used them for 4 years only ever had 1 problem and that was a $2 game that was $29 on steam and i could have gotten a refund if i wanted but cause it was so cheap i didnt care. the only thing i would recommend is using paypal because they protect you

@@MrTastyM7 No thanks. I use a different key website which is not shady like G2A and allows me to use the local bank too since I don't have Paypal or MasterCard or any of that.

Because G2A isn't responsible for that, its just a game selling website. Same way as how these keys are also sold on eBay but it isn't eBays responsibility. Also depending on where its based means they might not be prosecuted, this goes for companies like PayPal who would've been shut down and charged as criminals in the UK however can't be because they're based in the US.

@@samwell8 errr no they have EU office as well for paypal

Because G2A is running out of a country where they aren't breaking any laws.

you act as if our countrys don't do that already. america is a prime example

huehuehuehue~!

Except you'd still be supporting fraud and theft

@@AdmiralVortex It's like choosing between a fraud or another fraud, as example : Anthem.

@@bafle935 The difference is between directly screwing over the industry and indirectly screwing over the industry. DO NOT BUY FROM G2A, NOT EVEN EA GAMES

I agree with this. I'll buy AAA games from G2A aside from CDProjektRed, indie games where the developers are shitheads and/or implement and adamantly defend the use of Denuvo (Mutant Year Zero is a good example) and games that are exclusive to another launcher IE Epic Store, Origin etc.

Good old games?

GoG and Humble are great!

Eh GoG is amazing. But generally i agree

Stupid attitude. GOG is always superior to Steam. If the same game is available on both, you pick the one without DRM. I had the same attitude until I started building my GOG library. Now the goal is to get off of Steam altogether.

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But how are they not? If you buy stolen goods off ebay without knowing is ebay not a business? Not everything is stolen but some stuff is.

Why would you want to actively hurt the AAA industry? Be a fucking adult, if you don't like a video game company ignore them and don't buy their games.

I think you mean EA

@@jukahri Are you serious? Are you actually listening to what you're saying...?

They deserve each other.

"Activision Blizzard" or just Activision in general.

@@YahyaFalcon Aka: Activision Blizzard

Aight, I agree they are bad. But I wouldn't put anything above EA in terms of badness.