Hey man, is this the same process as the PID that you installed from Shades of Coffee? Im about to install it and I was wondering if I can use this video as a guide for the PID that I bought from Shades. Thanks!
@@moraesg00 this video serves as good guidance to understand how to remove the boiler to install the pid thermostat and how the brew relay is connected. I installed shades pid 2 months ago, if you read the directions carefully you cant go wrong. It takes many hours but it's worth it 👌
hope this helps people out. this is what I would consider the easiest follow along pid install. remember do this at your own risk and your warranty will surely be void after doing this.
Even though i am not installing the auber pid kit, this installation has been helping me install the shade of coffee pid alot easier. So thank you i just need to figure the steam attachment myself lol
@@nathancharlesworth8133 Honestly almost word for word jus excluding the steam attachment that I found out you really don't need. And wiring to the pid I just you the book provided to figure out
Thenks Joe, this is a really great teaching. Here's a shout out to your dad for his help. I have been on the fence for about a year deciding about this mod. Been leaning towards doing it and this video tipped the balance. Temperature surfing can be a little hit or miss so this seems to be the way to go. Update, I finally pulled the trigger and ordered the Auber PID for my GCP.
Thank You!! I completed everything today: cut opv spring, lamp dimmer switch on right side in front of steam knob, installed manometer on front right, moved Gaggia logo left, setup xmt7100 for 2 relays, pulled a perfect shot, and I now know the pressure is at 8.5 bar. You helped a lot!
Thank you! I bought the Auber PID kit awhile ago and have been planning to carve out some time to install it. Your great video gave me confidence to do it.
You've earned by sub! Nice video, I've seen other guys say it took them 5-10 hours to complete the PID install and I couldn't imagine why it took so long. I see what it involves now, and it looks like about a 1 hour job, soup to nuts. I REALLY like the color of your machine as well. I got the stainless model, and every time I see someone with anything other than stainless, it makes me wish I would have gotten a color. Nice work!
Thanks Tom I agree it’s really not that long of a job especially if you have a. Nice walk through. I will say I can see how it would take some folks a long time if you were just going off the written manual
I also chose the stainless steel finish for mine last year. About 2 months after I bought mine they released the EVO Pro model with a variety of new colors. I just completed the OPV spring mod with the 9 bar spring (the kit I bought came with 5 and 6 bar springs as well) and I'm going to do one of these Gaggiuino PID mods soon. If I decide to change the exterior finish color, I would remove all of the hardware and switches and then either do an automotive vinyl wrap to match the red color of my Eureka Mignon Specialita grinder, or I would have it powder coated. A small surface area like this wouldn't be too much with either application. My Italian woodfire pizza oven has a beautiful yellow powder coated finish, so that could also be a fun color to try to match.
Thanks for sharing. I am a bit concerned about the wires being routed through the narrow cut without any protection. With time, the wire isolation could get damaged (from the pump vibrations) and that will cause all kinds of trouble.
Hey Joe, I just acquired a Gaggia Classic w/ mod installed and would like to see a video on how to program it. There's an old Seattle Coffee Gear video, but I think an updated tutorial would be helpful. Thank you.
Great video, It helped me out so much. My only issue is that there's a water leak on the steam wand right below the clip is. Any idea on how to fix this?
very helpful video, thank you!! I'm currently working on mine and flipping back and forth between the instructions and this video. I noticed you plugged in both thermostat wires into the SSR whereas the instructions say to plug one in and the other from the steam thermostat. Is there a reason you didn't do this? And If I were to do this, how much more complicated would it be?
Sorry this was from awhile ago. I don’t think it would make a difference unless you got the model that has the timer built in then I’d say do what the instructions say
Thanks for taking the time to make this video! Where can one get thermal grease? Is it similar to thermal paste? To make sure I got it, the following tools are all you needed? Philips screw driver Flat-head screw driver Long nose pliers Wire cutter (or scissors) Electrical tape
Hi! First of all thank you very much for this great video. I have a couple questions though: How much longer does this process take if I want to control the steam temp in this workflow? And how much does the process shown here changes when considering adding the steam control?
@@Cjmink47 Right, it's a single boiler machine. Finally I hired a technician to do the work for me. I don't have the skill, knowledge, patience or time to spend on this mods myself 😅 I work long hours!
Very nice video! Thanks. It is even better if you can show the functions/features that this PID enabled. Also, there are two thermo stats right? Does this mod improve the steam as well?
Thank you for this! You actually helped me decide not to try this, I'm afraid I'll break something because I'm just not that handy. I'll buy a machine with a PID from the factory.
Joe-- great video! Subscribed! Assuming it worked right after install? Did you review in a later video? And did you program a temp offset due to the loss of heat from the boiler to the group head? Thanks!
Yes I programmed the offset because of that exact reason. Thanks for the sub. Here’s my review video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XMZ2loq88_8.html
@JoeyVaracalli How would that help if the purpose of ground wire is to ground the PID. As for the rest of the machine there's already two grounding wires.
Did the RTD and Relay come with the PID package? And, what values did you set for your gain, integration and derivative? Usually derivative is set to zero. Or, did you just use the factory settings?
Hey thanks for the good video! I have 2 questions: 1) When piggybacking the power leads from the power switch, why did you swap the connectors up and down? 2) Why did you place a jumper in the PID? Thanks! ~J
Has to do with how the power goes back to the pid I can remember exactly to be honest but it’s definitely necessary. The jumper was recommended by the distributor in the directions from auber I’m not sure what that controlled
Did you have a hard time getting your lid back on? Mine was hitting the SSR, and nothing I did would change that. My lid is...back on...but it's not right. I may need to relocate that SSR, did you have troubles?
I don’t believe so. The dedica is a much more complex machine on the inside since it runs on a thermoblock. I believe it already has pid built in you just can’t change the temp
@@JoeyVaracalli tku and sorry for my bad English, I mean if there is any difference in the pid installation between the gaggia classic pro and the gaggia classic 2012 model, once again great video and great advice tku for share your experience with all the noobs around the world.
Great video and very helpful! Is this the Auber PID without the preinfusion? If so does this also control your steam temperature and let it maintain a certain temperature similar to the brew temp?
Yea the steam pressure is way more amazing if your someone who likes milk based drinks this is a massive upgrade…. It’s the amber pid without preinfusion but the install is the same from my understanding
Thanks for the help gents! I am looking at the Preinfusion model so that I can have control of the steam as well. This was a great video with tons of helpful information 👍
@@JoeyVaracalli that would be great. I think its the same times two. I believe the kit comes with two thermometers and two SSRs. Im excited to install and take it for a spin.
Great video Joe, this is most helpful. I was curious which grinder you use for your Gaggia Classic? A few of the suppliers I contacted are telling me to spend up to $1000 for a grinder, twice the price of the Gaggia!
No I don’t have to do that… it’s silly. I have used many grinders if you like single dosing the df64 is great especially if u upgrade to ssp burrs but it’s also great as is. You can do something like the baratza sette 270 which I love especially if you get the wi only down side is it’s a bit loud. If you are in Europe I think the eureka mignon specialita is pretty dang good as well.
@@JoeyVaracalli Just make sure you don't destroy the heater connector. Mine was barely tighter than finger tight. The gasket does the work so you don't need it super tight
Did you set up the steam wand on the pod so you could have individual temp control? I didn't see that in the video or I missed it. I'm planning on doing that to run a hotter temp for steaming but not sure how to do it.
Yeah you can see another thermostat connected to the boiler I did not do that because the steam boiler hits over 300 degrees f so with a pid you can see when it hits that temp then start steaming
Damian Witonski demonstrates here how to remove internal ssr of an xmt7100 PID, and connect the second relay of a modified PID and test it: Remake - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WYm6hDPqtgA.html Original - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ewj5oXl_wk0.html
When you're working with the power switch you're actually working around US main voltage of 120V direct from the power outlet. So yeah REALLY DON't DO THAT! Un plug it before installation.
