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Galileo and Why He was Really Convicted of Heresy 

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On October 31, 1992, the Roman Catholic Church admitted it had been wrong to condemn Galileo Galilei for promoting the Copernican astronomical theory. After a 13 year investigation into the persecution of Galileo that led to his official condemnation in 1633, Pope John Paul II rectified a wrong that forced the Italian astronomer and physicist to live the last years of his life in exile, and worse yet, to recant his proven discoveries to save his hide.
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@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut 6 лет назад
Now that you know about Galileo's story check out this video and find out about Dr. William Brydon and the Massacre of Elphinstone's Army: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EH0s2fHOHwQ.html
@MegaNetty1
@MegaNetty1 3 года назад
Hello, Gods Creation! Have you taken the time to watch this video? Are Catholics really saved? Watch it and let me know what you think. Thank you! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vknUpipM8DU.html
@aaraveddie3095
@aaraveddie3095 2 года назад
Instablaster
@carsonianthegreat4672
@carsonianthegreat4672 4 месяца назад
Why are you misrepresenting the history of Galileo?
@andrewprahst2529
@andrewprahst2529 3 года назад
A few corrections: Galileo did not have conclusive evidence of the heliocentric model when he began teaching it. He was accused of teaching things that were not confirmed. There were many christians of the time who believed in the heliocentric model, but he tried to teach it even after being told to cease and desist. It wasn't until he was under house arrest that he provided sufficient theory.
@timothyscheidler6365
@timothyscheidler6365 2 года назад
Slight correction - he was teaching heliocentrism as a fact, whereas it t had not been proven. He was told not to teach it as a fact, but was allowed to teach it as a theory.
@andrewprahst2529
@andrewprahst2529 2 года назад
@@timothyscheidler6365 Thanks
@timothyscheidler6365
@timothyscheidler6365 2 года назад
@@andrewprahst2529 you're welcome.
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus 2 года назад
He still did not provide conclusive evidence even then. The final serious objections to heliocentrism were not answered until the early 1800s, when the creation of more powerful telescopes allowed better evidence to be gathered.
@HpPmL
@HpPmL 2 года назад
@@CantusTropus you're absolutely right, it was definitely proven in 1838 by Bessel, eventhough there was sufficient observational evidence before that. In itself Heliocentrism as Galileo was teaching it was completely wrong.
@cernowaingreenman
@cernowaingreenman 6 лет назад
And even today, great educated people like Neil DeGrass Tyson continue to propagate the story of how Galileo was a "martyr for Science" standing up against the anti-scientific Church. Kudos to "Today I Found Out" for clearing up the historical aspects of the non-scientific aspects of the conflict between Galileo and the Pope.
@kintsugikame
@kintsugikame 2 года назад
“great educated people like Neil Degrass Tyson” oh man, I had a good laugh at that one 😂
@marksimons4108
@marksimons4108 Год назад
@@kintsugikame Flatearth banjo on youtube
@kintsugikame
@kintsugikame Год назад
@@marksimons4108 why?
@kintsugikame
@kintsugikame Год назад
@Gittana-ip2ms Specialization is not the paradigm you think it is. Spending 6+ years and thousands of dollars getting an “advanced” degree like Tyson’s isn’t a display of intelligence, it’s a display of obedience. A lot of people like Tyson who specialize in one area of study tend to be educated far beyond their intelligence. He’s never invented or contributed any real scientific work to his field, apart from revoking Pluto’s planet designation. He’s listed as a “science communicator” - he’s a good performer and he’s good at presentation, he’s good at collecting funds for scientific research (which, granted, is a noble and important part to play) but he’s rarely involved in any actual research and I just wouldn’t call him a “great” or “educated” person. He’s certainly no da Vinci or Einstein. He’s not even a Sagan or a Feynman.
@joalnith
@joalnith 6 месяцев назад
I got here from a Neil degrasse Tyson video. He called Galileo a pompous ass and told about the simplicio story.
@alexlandherr
@alexlandherr 6 лет назад
Galileo: *I didn’t expect the astronomical inquisition...*
@ATLockhart
@ATLockhart 5 лет назад
No one does...
@Sggggggggggg
@Sggggggggggg 4 года назад
Lol
@pvbutmemeverofficial10
@pvbutmemeverofficial10 4 года назад
Lol UwU OwO -_-
@jmchez
@jmchez 6 лет назад
Galileo was a supremely good debater at arguing for correct scientific analysis (moons around jupiter, spots on the surface of the sun) and, also, supremely good at arguing for completely erroneous scientific analysis (comets were cloudy disturbances in the atmosphere and the tides were caused by the earth sloshing the water as it moved). He said that the moon couldn't pull the water from a distance because that sounded like witchcraft. When other people pointed how wrong his own bad ideas were, he called them idiots and made enemies of them. Not a very diplomatic man that's why no jesuit came to his aid, he had offended most of them. Newton once said, that "tact was the act of making an argument without making enemies" and he was talking about Galileo. Of course, Newton was a total jerk who made enemies of those who couldn't fight back. Leibniz asked for a report from the Royal Society to clear his name after Newton accused him of stealing the idea for the calculus. The President of the Royal society was none other than Newton. When Leibniz died, Newton was quoted as saying, "Ha, hah, hah. I broke his heart". (That's just obscene!) At 86, Newton also said that one of his greatest achievements was dying a virgin; Sheldon Cooper has nothing on Newton in the weird a-hole department. Newton also predicted that the world would end in the year 2060. Watch out! Oh wait, weren't we talking about Galileo?
@_Gaby_950
@_Gaby_950 3 года назад
Haha thank you so much for this lol. Both entertaining and informative.
@marksimons4108
@marksimons4108 Год назад
Does the moon control the tide of the great lakes too?
@jmchez
@jmchez Год назад
@@marksimons4108 Yes, but because the mass of the water in those lakes is so much smaller than that of the oceans, the Great Lakes tides are about 2 inches, on average. Smaller than the wind-generated waves on the surface, so they are unnoticeable.
@DarkKnight-em7ue
@DarkKnight-em7ue 9 месяцев назад
Well, many great inventors were a*sholes. 1. Thomas Alva Edison, the greatest a*sholes of them all, he stole patents, etc. 2. Nikola Tesla, he's an a*sholes towards Einstein, he literally mocked the quantum theory. 3. Pythagoras, he literally drowned a follower of his cult, when his follower found out that irrational numbers are real. And many more.
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman 6 лет назад
You're missing one key element ... he was a tonsured cleric, and thus subject to canon law. Without that, he wouldn't have been subject to the trial.
@Psychodegu
@Psychodegu 6 лет назад
He also went around stating that his works were divine revelations.
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 6 лет назад
Common folk were victims of the inquisition as well.
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman 6 лет назад
BlackEpyon not executed as such. They were, except in a few exceptional cases, executed by the crown, not the church, based upon a second pro-forma, judge trial based upon their church trial confession/conviction. The exceptions mostly involve the papal states, where the distinction was blurred, as the crown was the pope. Two edged sword, that... outside of rome, in Catholic nations, a tonsured cleric, friar, hermit, or monastic was immune to civil law. And non-tonsured were immune to execution by the church save for leading a schism, assaulting a cardinal on church property, or capital crimes in the papal states....
@douglasclerk2764
@douglasclerk2764 9 месяцев назад
Tonsured? Not apparent in his portraits . . .
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman 8 месяцев назад
@@douglasclerk2764 Few non-monastics retained the tonsured hair.
@jorgeramos597
@jorgeramos597 5 лет назад
Benedetto Castelli told him that if Galileo provided evidence as proof of the Copernican theory they were willing to reinterpret scripture. But Galileo could not comply successfully because his “evidence” was not accurate.
@jl9062
@jl9062 5 лет назад
Yepp (although I believe it was a letter, rather than a speech to Galileo?) Unfortunately many people still believe the Galileo affair was a conflict between "rational science" vs "evil church who wants to suppress science"
@Pimeduseroos
@Pimeduseroos 6 лет назад
Thank you Simon for all the great videos. It is a time well spent.
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 6 лет назад
As always interesting and informative . Thank you for posting !
@jacob_90s
@jacob_90s 4 года назад
I remember hearing a while back that another issue Galileo had was that to fully prove his theory would have required a theory of gravity, which itself requires Calculus, both of which were developed after Galileo's death.
@marksimons4108
@marksimons4108 Год назад
Earth dont move as michelson and morley proved!
@MickeyD2012
@MickeyD2012 6 лет назад
Convected? Ow. And you thought being burned on a stake sucked.
@paultubbs3510
@paultubbs3510 6 лет назад
The Original Gamer Convected made me think convection ovens, typo for the win lol
@fleskhjertafan93
@fleskhjertafan93 6 лет назад
Thunderbolt and lightning very very frightening me. Galileo
@avlisk
@avlisk 6 лет назад
Excellent! Made me laugh.
@josephvictory9536
@josephvictory9536 6 лет назад
Fantastic summary of all points. I really enjoy that you went into the underside of the politics and highlighted the often easily forgotten fact that despite his arrest. Galileo was a very faithful catholic. Even showing in the quote the fact that most of modern christianity has developed along the line of self and scriptural inquiry that Galileo had in many ways exemplified. Man i just get more impressed with this channel over time.
@modolief
@modolief 6 лет назад
Superb work, extremely informative, thanks very much!
@MS-dp2py
@MS-dp2py 6 лет назад
I always look forward to all your videos and channels updates
@music4ever1981
@music4ever1981 6 лет назад
According to this, Galileo was "convected" of heresy, instead of being "convicted" of it.
@CaptainKent
@CaptainKent 6 лет назад
Hey Simon, how about a video on "The Metric Conversion Act" of 1975 in the United States. It was an interesting time to live through. I only wish it had worked. :/
@originalhgc
@originalhgc 6 лет назад
Right? In 6th grade we learned the metric system inside-out, in preparation for switching. Then, fizzle.
@OriginalDonutposse
@OriginalDonutposse 6 лет назад
I live in the us and decided it’s finally time to just use metric and offer the conversion after saying the metric units. Then, they can see it’s not that hard once you get used to it, and it’s something anyone can do. Seriously, if you can memorize 32, 98.6, 212, you can remember 0=32 16=61 and 37=100 and 100=212.
@carportchronicles1943
@carportchronicles1943 6 лет назад
The only lasting contributions from this act are 2-liter bottles of soda and the way vehicle engine displacement is described.
@celluskh6009
@celluskh6009 6 лет назад
The US has always been metric. Feet and pounds and so on are converted from the KMS system. I think Tom Scott has a video on this already. Really, Americans couldn't do things more backwards.
@greatwolf5372
@greatwolf5372 6 лет назад
originalhgc I don't know where you live but metric is taught in American schools. Most Science problems especially in high school use metric.
@deplorableamerican9451
@deplorableamerican9451 6 лет назад
Glad I decided to watch this. I skipped past it because I knew just the simple story as to why. Thanks!
@joeldeakin2003
@joeldeakin2003 6 лет назад
Galileo Galileo, Galileo let me go
@anonymousvlogger8608
@anonymousvlogger8608 6 лет назад
I was literally just reading about Galileo.
@savagefysik9375
@savagefysik9375 6 лет назад
I love your videos, but you should be clear. In that day, there was a HUGE difference between "convicted of heresy" and "convicted of suspicion of heresy." Had he actually been convicted of heresy, he'd never had left the Vatican. In addition, his 'heresy' wasn't the Copernican model itself, but going against (brazenly I might add) a previous Papal order. In addition, 'Two Worlds' was absolutely a rebuke of the Pope. Galileo was a headstrong and overly arrogant person. It's the general historical belief that he knew exactly what he was doing, but believed he had tacit approval from the Pope because of... I kid you not... a likely clerical error from an earlier Papal document concerning an earlier Vatican investigation.
@alexporter7379
@alexporter7379 5 лет назад
In many ways Galileo was an asshole, a correct asshole, but an asshole none the less.
@rhodesianwojak2095
@rhodesianwojak2095 5 лет назад
this
@Autobotmatt428
@Autobotmatt428 3 года назад
@@alexporter7379 David Bently Hart put it like this when you really look into this event what you find are two very egotistical men butting heads.
@alexporter7379
@alexporter7379 3 года назад
@@Autobotmatt428 Aye, that's as I've heard it as well. Ego was a strong factor in the entire event.
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ 3 года назад
@@alexporter7379 How so?
@louismelahn1805
@louismelahn1805 6 лет назад
“Medici” (some of his patrons) is pronounced “MEH-dee-chee,” just FYI.
@Gamingderpmonglers
@Gamingderpmonglers 6 лет назад
In every video when he says, "Hello, I'm Simon Whistler," I alway reply with a "hello" back.
@themejin93
@themejin93 6 лет назад
Love you guys, but you may have missed some important points. First, Copernicus was a monk, and his model was held as a possibility though not widely accepted. Second Galileo made most of his arguments using really poor math and, if I recall correctly, tides. It wasn't his view that was the primary issue, but how he got there. Mostly his house arrest was for calling the pope an idiot and not for the heliocentric model, which others at the time held as true/ a possibility.
@hugehappygrin
@hugehappygrin 6 лет назад
He was being held on the charge of not only calling his peers idiots, but also he frequently plagiarized their work.
@celluskh6009
@celluskh6009 6 лет назад
Copernicus was not a monk, and his view was widely accepted despite being banned by the church and being the reason Galileo was imprisoned. The Pope revoked his protection from Galileo because of the perceived slight, rather than imprisoning him specifically for it.
@themejin93
@themejin93 6 лет назад
Cellus KH I stand corrected on the monk aspect, thanks for that. The banning didn't really take effect, or was even really a concern until the Galileo issue occurred
@jl9062
@jl9062 5 лет назад
@@celluskh6009 Heliocentrism was NOT accepted by the majority in the early 17th century. Geo-centrism made sense in terms of SCIENCE back then. Heliocentrism was still weak.
@celluskh6009
@celluskh6009 5 лет назад
What science? That was half a millenium after the Arabs developed the models that Copernicus popularized in Europe. There's a big difference between people who bother to figure things out, and, as Copernicus put it, "babblers... completely ignorant of [astronomy]"
@MrTohawk
@MrTohawk 6 лет назад
Just finished Brechts Live of Galilei for uni so this is right on time.
@lazyperson2000
@lazyperson2000 6 лет назад
Could you do a video on how the internet could crash and the aftermath of such a thing? Thank you for making these videos (I've learned so much interesting information). :)
@TheFaraway8
@TheFaraway8 6 лет назад
Misspelling in the title, in the notification... GENIUS.
@TheFaraway8
@TheFaraway8 6 лет назад
Misspelling in the actual video....not so much. Bet this shits still clicking off the hook tho
@whosreallytheboss
@whosreallytheboss 6 лет назад
Great story! THANK YOU! :)
@inisipisTV
@inisipisTV 6 лет назад
It should be worth noting that Martin Luther's Protestant group and other Reformed church are on the rise, including the 30 year war happening at that time, and much of Galileo's finding seems to agree with Johann Kepler's works, who is an ardent Calvinist, also greatly contributed to Galileo's conviction. The reason most of Galileo's books are published in Holland is because it's supported by the Dutch Reformed Church.
@vulgardisplayoftruth2060
@vulgardisplayoftruth2060 6 лет назад
inisipisTV, I think he knew not to piss on the country that he seeked sanctuary in after fleeing his persecution. Plus they were also seeking new technology & science that would give them a commanding lead against competing countrys.
@lynnmartz8739
@lynnmartz8739 6 лет назад
Galileo's time in Rome during his Inquisition was in the home of the ambassador, and when he finally was allowed to return to House Arrest in his own home in Florence he was nearly a broken man. As for being good friends with the Pope, not so much as Galileo apparently thought! And certainly not after his Inquisition!
@KarasekUS
@KarasekUS 6 лет назад
+inisipisTV Except Galileo was celebrated by the Church, including audiences with the pope and enjoyed a career teaching at Catholic universities, where the Copernican theory was being taught for 100 years by that time already, while it was Martin Luther who rejected Heliocentrism as contrary to the Scripture and actually burned an effigy of Copernicus at a stake as a heretic. Protestants also persecuted Rheticus, the protestant mathematician who collaborated with Copernicus on improving the mathematical model of the system. They accused him of being a homosexual and ruined his career, he had to relocate from Wittenberg to Krakow. That was one of the reasons the scientific community of the time rejected Galileo's claims - other models were producing better calculations of positions of planets. And BTW, Copernicus was a Catholic cleric, and was persuaded and commissioned to develop the Heliocentric model by four Catholic bishops, including future pope, to whom he later dedicated the manuscript.
@KarasekUS
@KarasekUS 6 лет назад
+Lynn Martz Galileo wasn't persecuted because of his views on Heliocentrism, but because he was an asshole, going around and offending people, and alienating his benefactors, including the pope. And the Inquisition bent over backwards to be lenient to Galileo, including stretching the proceedings and revising its decisions in his favor.
@rhodesianwojak2095
@rhodesianwojak2095 5 лет назад
@@KarasekUS ^^^
@julians7268
@julians7268 6 лет назад
How does one get convected of heresy? *edit* Please note the spelling before responding. People have devoted a lot of time responding to this as though it was a genuine question. I'm just poking fun at a misspelling that is, or was if they corrected it, in the title.
@pantaleimona
@pantaleimona 6 лет назад
Julian Sloop lol
@Hashgamm
@Hashgamm 6 лет назад
Julian Sloop they stuffed him full of it, changed his shape to convex...duh duh duh Convected!
@Thanatos420
@Thanatos420 6 лет назад
By being dropped into a volcano in one of the most extreme acts of corporal punishment ever! Lol.
@samanthastuessel7986
@samanthastuessel7986 6 лет назад
Julian Sloop Julian Sloop It used to be a law. Ever hear of the witch trials? Or the bloody 300 years of England? All convictions of Heresy.
@samanthastuessel7986
@samanthastuessel7986 6 лет назад
Weeblet ABM I seriously just noticed it was spelled wrong when I read someone elses comment 🤣🤣 went right over my head there LOL
@TCDooM
@TCDooM 6 лет назад
Thank you. Good listening it was. If you really remember all you record, you must know a lot! 😁
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 5 лет назад
galileo was never tortured and was in fact given a nice room with a personal valet during his trial
@TheJavaMonkey
@TheJavaMonkey 6 лет назад
The “C” in “Medici” is pronounced “Ch.” Med-ee-chee.
@AP-yx1mm
@AP-yx1mm 6 лет назад
Note that the Church didn't have anything against Copernicus, because at that time it was not that important, it is after the Council of Trent(the catholic answer to lutheran/reformation movement) that they had this knew approach, with Giordano Bruno as first victim...
@Veellinn
@Veellinn 6 лет назад
Yeah, there was a lot of politics involved as well. And politics could very well kill you. I mean, just look at the Thomas Moore.
@joshduthie3401
@joshduthie3401 6 лет назад
My understanding is that this stuff was critically important for navigation. The old model, while being wrong in it's basic tenant, was actually very detailed and complicated and did predict the planet's movement correctly - while the new theory was critically undeveloped and would have lead to navigation errors and hence deaths.
@eliasfrp
@eliasfrp 6 лет назад
Read more about Giordano Bruno, and you might find out that he wasn't so much a scientist, but more a heretic indeed.
@lynnmartz8739
@lynnmartz8739 6 лет назад
While the Council of Trent and the Church's upset over the Reformation/Protestantism movement likely played a big part, if I recall correctly Copernicus had the good sense to not publish until he was about to die. Galileo may have thought his personal relationship with the Pope would give him some leeway. I had not heard that the Pope or anyone else thought that Simplicio could have been interpreted as being the voice for the Pope. Just that with all going on, Galileo went too far in pushing the heliocentric version when the Church had said you can't believe in it.
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR 10 месяцев назад
Giordano Bruno was a lunatic though? I mean his story is tragic, but it's for ending up killed as a result of untreated mental illness. It's unrelated to Trent and Copernicus. Also which canons in Trent were in any way applicable to astronomy? I don't remember reading anything about that in there.
@blueoak116
@blueoak116 Год назад
Well done. Thanks.
@Dionysus-senpai
@Dionysus-senpai 6 лет назад
Convection, noun "the movement caused within a fluid by the tendency of hotter and therefore less dense material to rise, and colder, denser material to sink under the influence of gravity, which consequently results in transfer of heat." Just thought I'd point this out along with the rest of the comment section.
@KittenoftheBroccoli
@KittenoftheBroccoli 6 лет назад
OK wait. At first I thought the title was just spelled wrong, but it's even spelled wrong in the video. I just... I can't even...
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 6 лет назад
"Galileo and Why He was Convected of Heresy" *_*convection intensifies*_*
@tomzeman5964
@tomzeman5964 4 года назад
The wheel in the sky stopped turnin when the fool on the hill saw the world spinnin round
@JohnFDonovan-by1nt
@JohnFDonovan-by1nt 4 месяца назад
My understanding is that what also emboldened the Church to go after Galileo is that many of the leading scientists of the times supported the Ptolemaic system and were rather glad Galileo got his comeuppance as he was viewed in that community as being difficult and arrogant. Pope JPII also warned the church never to make theological judgements based on science because by its very investigative nature science does change, quite frequently as the support in some scientist quarters for the Church's decision on Galileo showed.
@stevensmiseck3526
@stevensmiseck3526 6 лет назад
Nicely done summary. Enjoyed it. Since so many are focused on your pronunciation of “Medici”, I thought I’d thank you for the correct pronunciation of “err.” 😉
@SuperKingslaw
@SuperKingslaw 6 лет назад
Very well stated!
@gerardacronin3095
@gerardacronin3095 6 лет назад
Convection is how heat transfers, not how Galileo was CONVICTED.
@extraSPARErib
@extraSPARErib 6 лет назад
Gerarda Cronin no, that is an oven, radiation is how that shit works ... then convections you we find LARPing at, in the Wonder Woman outfit you ... made ... buy a life now on eBay, just, not mine, it is free for all to mock and enjoy, and hate, and touch tips with. Ggggaaaaaayyyyy much. Naw. Just with my ... own two cacks ..
@xxXthekevXxx
@xxXthekevXxx 6 лет назад
Typos are common on this channel. Which is kinda strange, considering how many times they read over their content before publishing it... if they hired me, I’d catch all this shit immediately.
@trevorclayton2131
@trevorclayton2131 6 лет назад
que?
@Treatsandthreadscom
@Treatsandthreadscom 6 лет назад
lol
@colacurciolaw7745
@colacurciolaw7745 6 лет назад
Getting "convected" has to hurt like hell.
@wanggalileo2067
@wanggalileo2067 6 лет назад
Glad my parents named me after him
@Edithae
@Edithae 6 лет назад
So basically...he trolled the Pope and got punished for it.
@dw6528
@dw6528 2 года назад
The Catholic summation is published online at the Vatican Observatory web-site. In that article they acknowledge the a sun-centered Copernican universe was considered heresy at that time - because it conflicted with their current interpretation of scripture.
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR 10 месяцев назад
​@@dw6528 Heresy? Is that the word they used? Opposing a Church stance is very different from heresy. The former is a call to humbly try to understand the Church's reasoning and, if unable (due to time or mental faculties), obey regardless. Meanwhile heresy is heresy no matter the time period and it must be of a grave, core matter. If Galileo was condemned as a formal heretic for heliocentrism back then, then all of us are heretics as well. Because what is heresy is unchangeable. But it's not: There's not a single Apostolic letter, Biblical support, Ecumenical canon, or any sort of Papal letter that even suggests that holding Heliocentrism is completely contrary to Christianity. Not even by implication. Zero.
@dw6528
@dw6528 10 месяцев назад
@@alonsoACR DW: The word heresy in Latin is "hæresis" - which defined as a school of thought or a philosophical sect. The probably was - the holy interpreters of scripture within the church at that time - would not take it as a compliment - for a common person to suggest or infer they got it wrong.
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR 10 месяцев назад
@@dw6528 I didn't expect you to reply with the etymology. The meaning changed over time, but the definition held in the Catholic Church is in the Catechism (CCC 2089): "Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same" (fyi the Catechism is published in Latin, this is the English translation) The conditions then are: - Obstinate: You were confronted, offered to debate it, yet remain stubborn. - Post-baptismal: It's only applicable to Christians - Denial: You openly refuse it. What qualifies? "Truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith" refers to something specific we call _dogma._ This includes the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Sacrifice of the Mass, etc. They must be 1. straight from Scripture, or be a necessary consequence of it and 2. declared as such in Council or by the Pope (in limited scenarios). Whatever "holy interpreters of scripture of the time" say DOES NOT matter AT ALL. I can call them idiots all day and still not be a heretic as along as it's not something ACTUALLY defined INFALLIBLY. Really few things qualify as dogma. I can actually refuse the legitimacy of the Bible, yet it's NOT heresy because it's not a dogma. I can call the Pope a dummy, use the Bible as paper towel, call the Vatican's scholars deluded idiots, cheat on my wife, destroy a car, and it will still NOT be heresy.
@samsiangchin8394
@samsiangchin8394 3 года назад
ngl, the narrator's voice is very soothing.
@ENDfilms44
@ENDfilms44 6 лет назад
It's misspelled to convected in both the youtube title and in the video. lol
@silkworm6861
@silkworm6861 6 лет назад
Nice. Shame you didn't mention the "E pur si muove" subplot (which might be a myth, but still interesting)
@PilsnerGrip
@PilsnerGrip 6 лет назад
It reminds me of a video of a devout Catholic that calls the show Atheist experience and argues heavily against the theory of evolution with much conviction, but once he's informed that "by the way the Catholic church accepts evolution now" he immediately responds "oh then I accept it too then" ...
@DrakoDragonis
@DrakoDragonis 6 лет назад
''sheep'', what can I say :)
@Veellinn
@Veellinn 6 лет назад
At least he is consistent is his devotion to church. I mean creationists are really big in USA for some reason, despite that not following catholic church doctrine at all.
@Veellinn
@Veellinn 6 лет назад
Aaah, that explains it. For some reason I thought they identified themselves as such, but it is true I should have taken history more into consideration. What are they anyway? Protestants?
@andymcl92
@andymcl92 6 лет назад
I feel I should point out that this immediate belief in something you don't understand isn't confined to discrete groups within the Church. I don't know the number of times I've had to inform people that a headline along the lines of "Scientists prove that...[insert shocking revelation here]" actually means the opposite of what the journalist reports, or that the "scientists" probably didn't really do their job, and yet many of my Facebook friends just believe it because "a scientist said so" without them even considering peer review (because they don't know how science or clickbait work!).
@andymcl92
@andymcl92 6 лет назад
Correct. Neither does "a devout Catholic" misunderstanding scripture have anything to do with the content of the scripture (or arguably with the scholars interpenetrating it within context, whether geographical, political, historical etc.). But it does have to do with the individual and/or whatever preacher [reporter] they listen to.
@carsonianthegreat4672
@carsonianthegreat4672 4 года назад
This is a total misrepresentation of what happened
@therealong
@therealong 4 месяца назад
The video is still available and commented on.
@carsonianthegreat4672
@carsonianthegreat4672 4 месяца назад
@@therealong yeah, and a total fabrication of history
@DaremoTen
@DaremoTen 6 лет назад
I had hoped for some additional words on the provenance of E pur si muove. I don't think it's something that needs it's own video, but is still really interesting.
@LadyWayen
@LadyWayen 6 лет назад
Should have added the relic middle finger of Galileo in some church in Florence
@gregallenmolick
@gregallenmolick 6 лет назад
CONVECTED!
@lackcerebro
@lackcerebro 6 лет назад
"Thunderbolts and lightning very very frightening me" -Galileo
@daisy8284
@daisy8284 6 лет назад
"Convected"? Lol
@sebastianhartung4407
@sebastianhartung4407 6 лет назад
had to look that word up because i wanted to know whether it actually exists :D
@fafinaf
@fafinaf 6 лет назад
Convection? Poor guy
@schregen
@schregen 6 лет назад
Haha that avatar is funny! 🍄💋🍄💋
@anyideas_
@anyideas_ 6 лет назад
I always like to know how Galileo was transported of Heresy.
@Vortexfugue
@Vortexfugue 6 лет назад
Would kind of suck if he was not only convicted but also convected as well.
@vanir_freyr
@vanir_freyr 6 лет назад
I'm digging the shirt, mate. Lookin' sharp
@panthar1
@panthar1 6 лет назад
Like any history video, there is a lot of details that are often missed. I read a book on this a while back, and I recall that he had a decree from the pope to publish his works. It was only when a new pope arrived that the decree was not accepted by the church and problems arose with the church. Plus there was other factors as other commenters have pointed out.
@dw6528
@dw6528 2 года назад
Yes - he had a decree to publish a "Neutral" exposition on the subject - in which he was not to appear to contradict the Church's current position. He disobeyed that decree - and argued for a sun-centered Copernican universe which was against the church's current position. It is said that during his inquisition he asked for forgiveness and asked if he could re-write it. He was denied that request. You can check the Catholic Vatican Observatory article on the subject where they acknowledge the sun-centered Copernican universe was considered heresy at that time.
@spacemissing
@spacemissing 6 лет назад
The moral of this while thing is "Don't Fight The Powers That Be On Their Own Ground."
@chrisstylwin8475
@chrisstylwin8475 6 лет назад
Good save.
@gold4963
@gold4963 6 лет назад
"Convected?"
@JayFlowie
@JayFlowie 6 лет назад
GOLD 1515 burnt?
@Thanatos420
@Thanatos420 6 лет назад
Extreme heat transfer. It's what happens when you get too close to lava. You instantly burst into flames due to convection. Basically, Galileo was deemed a heretic...and thus, tossed into a live volcano apparently. That or microwaved lol.
@gold4963
@gold4963 6 лет назад
Thanatos420 Seriously?
@Thanatos420
@Thanatos420 6 лет назад
Depends on what you mean by seriously. Was he really tossed into a microwave or volcano? No. Not really. That was a joke. But is that actually how convection works? Basically, yes. In real life, if you got too close to lava, not only would your body burst into flames (without even having to touch it) but all the water in your body would boil instantly from all the heat around you. All of this because of convection (extreme heat transfer) essentially acting as an oven on your body, both inside and out. That part is actually true, yes.
@gold4963
@gold4963 6 лет назад
Thanatos420 Thanks for clearing that up.
@rasapplepipe
@rasapplepipe 6 лет назад
In a convection oven? Man catholicism was no joke back then.
@bittu2507
@bittu2507 3 года назад
true
@bittu2507
@bittu2507 3 года назад
Religion is Shit
@RGNRK-rm1eq
@RGNRK-rm1eq 2 года назад
@@bittu2507 people are shit
@hugehappygrin
@hugehappygrin 6 лет назад
You never know where you find history. I found this bit of history in The Ring of Fire: The Galileo Affair by Eric Flint.
@bobomob111
@bobomob111 5 лет назад
I had no idea just how incredibly ballsy he was
@davidcoyne9448
@davidcoyne9448 6 лет назад
A vid on Kepler would be grand.
@flukislucas
@flukislucas 6 лет назад
So the church transported Galileo via heat cells? Nice!
@bradfordeaton6558
@bradfordeaton6558 6 лет назад
Galileo failed to heed a very basic lesson: don't crap in your own nest.
@verdatum
@verdatum 6 лет назад
God, I wish more people knew the real story. I was taught the story wrong so many times. You told the story correctly. I still say his dialogue comes off as Galileo being a total dick. That was unwise.
@alexseguin5245
@alexseguin5245 6 лет назад
The real story isn't much different. Church still looks bad, Galileo was still treated unfairly.
@readhistory2023
@readhistory2023 6 лет назад
Taco Pro I take it you made up your mind about the smoking or non smoking seating?
@Xo-3130
@Xo-3130 6 лет назад
Alex Seguin Actually given the time he was living in he was actually treated nicely. Keep in mind that this is the late middle ages. Only nobles clergy and Kings had anything resembling human rights and most crimes had serve punishment and in some cases they didn't need much of a excuse to kill or torture you.
@zeromailss
@zeromailss 6 лет назад
Well, people always thought that they are the center of the universe Nothing new
@jonbowman7686
@jonbowman7686 6 лет назад
Well, from our perspective we *are* the center of the observable universe, so they'd be correct. Other than that you've got a good point.
@edwardrhoads7283
@edwardrhoads7283 6 лет назад
It is too bad the center of our universe may not even be in our universe much like the center of a balloon is not located on the "universe" on the surface of a balloon
@jonbowman7686
@jonbowman7686 6 лет назад
You're right that there is no center of the entire universe. It could even be infinitely large. But because light travels at a finite speed and the universe has a finite age, there is a center of the _observable_ universe from each person's perspective. But from the universe's "perspective" there is no center. Everything is simply expanding away from each other at a sufficient distance. Also it's interesting that the location of the big bang is everywhere. Everywhere around us is the "point" of space that the big bang happened. We can see that "point" in every section of the sky 14 billion light years away.
@edwardrhoads7283
@edwardrhoads7283 6 лет назад
I like to use an inflating balloon analogy. The balloon expands and everything seems to move away because the membrane of the balloon is expanding. If you consider the surface of the balloon a "universe" then the center of that universe is not in that universe but in another dimension which is not part of that universe and their universe expands due to an expansion in that same dimension. It is very possible that our universe is a 4 D surface of a 11 D balloon (M-theory) and so the "center" of our universe may not even exist in our universe. It is kind of mind blowing to think of it that way.
@muthut1000
@muthut1000 6 лет назад
My professor told us this story on Friday. Alas he told us wrong thanks I have a test in this soon.
@_Mr.Tuvok_
@_Mr.Tuvok_ 6 лет назад
*Convicted also...FIRST ONE HERE!!!!! Love everything u do Simon (and Daven and crew)
@hgodvilla00
@hgodvilla00 3 года назад
Simon, your facts are wrong. The man who supported Galileo was Pope Paul V, while the man who persecuted Galileo was Pope Urban VIII.
@sentientcardboarddumpster7900
@sentientcardboarddumpster7900 2 года назад
Reminds me of what's going on today with certain areas of topics
@Cursivealpha
@Cursivealpha 3 года назад
I have the same shirt!
@a.p6419
@a.p6419 6 лет назад
Heyyyyy!!!! Its fixed! Yay! All is right with the world again!
@MickeyD2012
@MickeyD2012 6 лет назад
Sort of. The video evidence will remain forever.
@a.p6419
@a.p6419 6 лет назад
Yeah but we had ever so much fun, didn't we? 😉😄😁
@tohopes
@tohopes 6 лет назад
WHAT DID THEY DO?
@nomadic-loyalist
@nomadic-loyalist 6 лет назад
Guys they make videos full of information everyday cut them some slack
@EJavierPaniaguaLaconich
@EJavierPaniaguaLaconich 6 лет назад
Space Loyalist Ok, but Alltime10s for example: they do crappily researched videos but at least they don't have misspellings! So unsub! No wait... 😂
@kazzyanddecchan733
@kazzyanddecchan733 6 лет назад
The story of Galileo: (Ahem) Galileo figaro. *MAGNIFICO-O*-O-o-o. The end.
@gabrielenarbutaite6244
@gabrielenarbutaite6244 6 лет назад
Kazzy and Decchan haha good one!
@hudbudmudsud
@hudbudmudsud 6 лет назад
If you have too much power, your destined to be blinded by it.
@Rico-Suave_
@Rico-Suave_ 2 года назад
Watched all of it
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 6 лет назад
Convected? He drifted up due to heat?
@PureFPSPwnage
@PureFPSPwnage 6 лет назад
You beat me to it
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 6 лет назад
;->
@InfiniteBeautyOfficial
@InfiniteBeautyOfficial 2 года назад
🕊️ Galileo, guess what? Fast forward 458+ years after your birthday till the end of humanity... The world knows your name 🕊️🗽💞 Cheers , it's 2022🥂 your enemies are unknown by name to us. You're a Legend Galileo 🎇🕊️💞
@JohnMyers1970
@JohnMyers1970 6 лет назад
Convicted, by any chance...? How does one become convected...? Lol
@ElliotWright
@ElliotWright 6 лет назад
He caught a lot of heat for his statements. :P
@JohnMyers1970
@JohnMyers1970 6 лет назад
Considering the subject at hand, that may well have been a possibility....
@primoroy
@primoroy 6 лет назад
You mean...some future telepope will declare "trickle down" VALID? 🤣😁
@pirolodaniel
@pirolodaniel 6 лет назад
I love this channel, and the community, these comments about the typo are pure gold :) Galileo is cool too....
@blessindia1
@blessindia1 6 лет назад
Hi Simon. Could you do a video on Zachariah Boutros?
@PhilDaw
@PhilDaw 6 лет назад
4:20 TOUMA I'm Hungry
@Marcylala
@Marcylala 6 лет назад
Convected.... Well that's a hell of a way to go 😕lol
@Bren3669
@Bren3669 6 лет назад
he was convected? ouch!
@kindlin
@kindlin 6 лет назад
Can this really be the first time TIFO ever covered Galileo?
@shreyagupta5523
@shreyagupta5523 2 года назад
In which country from u sir
@MagnusSkiptonLLC
@MagnusSkiptonLLC 6 лет назад
Science can't answer all questions, but it can answer all the questions that *can be* answered.
@TheFuhrerOfPop
@TheFuhrerOfPop 6 лет назад
video topic idea: Why on earth do they make scented toilet paper?!?!?! You wipe with it and flush it anyway. Also, I have a very small restroom and I dont notice any difference in the scent of the room. Please upvote this so he can see it. Its been bothering me all day!
@Wingedshadowwolf
@Wingedshadowwolf 6 лет назад
Palace Of Decay Well, I haven't bought scented TP, but I could see a use for it. My home is off the grid, so it's hooked up to a septic system. It seems like it needs to be pumped out less when we don't flush the TP, thus there is a trash can in the bathroom for it. I use a small can so it fills up quicker and then gets emptied more often so it doesn't start to stink.
@TheFuhrerOfPop
@TheFuhrerOfPop 6 лет назад
thats the thing, though. it is scented but its not a very strong scent at all. you literally have to put your nose right up to the TP to smell anything. id imagine the smell of anything on it would easily make the scent useless
@claytonfrag
@claytonfrag 6 лет назад
Palace Of Decay lol
@TheFuhrerOfPop
@TheFuhrerOfPop 6 лет назад
i wish my ass smelled good. and yeah, im pretty retarded.
@r.connor9280
@r.connor9280 5 лет назад
So what you're saying is that it was a slander case blown out of proportion and had almost nothing to do with his actual science but the presentation that he used
@a.p6419
@a.p6419 6 лет назад
Isn't summorize also incorrect? It's meant to be summarise or summarize...
@aimanzidani6478
@aimanzidani6478 6 лет назад
Thank you European Vsauce.
@apollobraden
@apollobraden 6 лет назад
This might be my favorite RU-vid video of all time. Because it shows that misunderstandings and pride can lead to out-of-proportion responses and even tragic endings.
@eastonkeeton5370
@eastonkeeton5370 6 лет назад
I think they meant convicted
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