Watching the young men walk into the abyss darkness of the back of the plane is brilliant imagery considering how many of those lives were basically ended as soon as they went on it. So ominous and yet emotionally perfect
Brilliantly haunting audio as George Berger's pleading voice becomes an echo as he fades to silhouette and then into the darkness aboard the plane! 2:40
I love how the guy behind Berger (and possibly the guy behind him too) makes a double step (leans to left of screen) to get into sync with how Berger is moving as they step onto the plane so it looks robotic and cloned when they are in shadow.
Berger sings until he’s gets on the plane and once his parts done u see his face covered in darkness and u just loose him in the silhouettes of the other soldiers, there all just young men marching to their deaths, that’s an amazing thing there, powerful stuff
Not to mention how poignant his reprisal of Manchester, England is because his last lines are "I believe in God and I believe that God believes in Claude. That's me! *THAT'S ME!"* It is meant to be Claude boarding that plane, and the realization is sinking in to Berger that he just passed the point of no return, he is going to Vietnam as Claude Hooper Bukowski.
Never seen this movie before, I’ve only seen this scene and I never really paid attention to it as much as before, I just really liked the way like I said how he just blends into the other soldiers
Beef 99 Hair is fantastic but maybe because I relate to that era due to my age. The story is universal though regarding war, peace, freedom and sacrifice.
@Beef 99 Claude represents America. Sheltered, prudish toward everyone but himself, ignorant, pretend-British, entitled to the end, living because of some hapless kid's sacrifice for something he doesn't understand and wouldn't support if he did.
“I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in.” ― George McGovern
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Even as a Brazilian citizen I feel so much disturbed for seeing so young guys entering the back of the plane towards a probable death. I hope that all of them returned alive and heallthy.
The cutaway to the cemetery hit me as hard as any scene I've seen. One of the few scenes I can still remember seeing for the first time. And it still hits me just as hard.
That's not just a cemetery. That is Arlington cemetery. It goes on for miles and miles. You must go see it in person. I was stationed in the DC area when I was in the Air Force. Bawled like a baby every time we drove past it.
R.I.P Miloš Forman - the greatest czech film director known for international films. Yeah that's right american people, this film is made by czech film director and it is fucking awesome, totally love it.
@@ofirose5000 Well his biological father was jewish but for Forman the only father was his legal father Rudolf Forman, protestant resistance fighter who was taken by Gestapo and died in concentration camp because of typhus.
Ending of this movie left me speechless. I wasn't expect this. I wasn't crying, but my heart dropped and just felt so shock. Its one of few movies that ending was so unexpected for me.
@@Sonyetc Well, the black soldier singing here, he's being marched off to war, and he sings: Somewhere, inside something there is a rush of Greatness, who knows what stands in front of Our lives, I fashion my future on films in space Silence tells me secretly Everything Everything I take all that to mean he's sort of trying to reason with the universe and Fate saying I have all this potential, these great things ahead of me. Don't let me go die in this war. The universe says nothing in return. And that silence tells him everything about the indifference and hopelessness of his situation. To me it's a totally heartbreaking stanza. I could be totally wrong, but my interpretation is what gives the song emotional weight to me. It might be something totally different.
@@ammortal I've also personally always loved the "marching proudly in our winter coats, wearing smells from laboratories facing a dying nation of moving paper fantasy". Such vivid and prescient lyrics.
@Jack Smith holy cow what an obsessive little person you are. And btw something like 3.5 percent of the population claims ptsd, which is almost 12 million people. At the height of recruiting there were only about 1.9 million people in the military.The fact is most military people never go anywhere near combat. Especially in modern times. So, no worries Jacko because now we can keep on without sacrificing our people too much because, you know, drones.
@user-lk4no3vo8qBro shut up. First off, a lot of Veterans didn’t even have a choice to fight. Secondly, be respectful, vets fought and would’ve given their lives for the security and ability for people like you to say what you want.
I remember seeing this movie on PRISM around 1980/ 81... And even though my father served and died in 1971 for the U.S. Navy, i did not cry until i was 13 years old watching Berger plead as he entered that dark transport.... Truly powerful and unnerving as, in his final moments, excepted his fate as to BECOME CLAUDE...To serve in a war he didn't sign up for, nor believed in...😢
@@jlessien3826 the thing about that scene: you friend goes to war in your place, a war YOU signed up for, and then you just stay home and wait for the body? I get that you would have a hard time explaining what happened and it would probably not get him home, but wouldn't you feel compelled to go as well since it was your idea in the first place?
I like very few musicals, but this one is a masterpiece! This sad ending and song always reminds me of how many good people have been needlessly killed, not just in wars, but at the hands of the ruthless. This song, to me, is a memorial for all who deserved better.
One of the most powerful movies ever, with the most powerful soundtrack and the most powerful ending scene. Cannot count how many times I seen it, and still giving goosebumps...
@@stanruang7021what about top gun, intro, ending, actors, which part? All I can think of is the epic song slightly mangled, but other than that...? I admit I haven't seen it, just like I haven't seen titanic. Because of all the hype. Hair also, I've seen it 20 or more years later, so 15-20y ago, and I think it was/is powerful.
Powerful, powerful scene.. and it disgusts me that travelagencies here in the Netherlands abuse this song to promote holiday discounts because it says "let the SUNSHINE in" so it "must be a summer song"
The scene leading up to this when they got the call and reality hit Berger as he was trying to escape and got herded into the truck was intense as well. Even more shocking to realize he didn't go through any basic training.
There were a lot of confusion at the time. One story I read was one guy didn’t want to go to war in Vietnam so his buddy went in his stead. The military found out when the buddy got injured and they mailed a letter to the family only for the family to say he’s been home for the past 13 months.
Before this scene theres a great moment where berger sounds off when claudes name is called and then gives a happy glance to the guy next to him and the expression of the other guy just says it all like "you have no idea what you've just gotten yourself into"
The synchronisation of the music to the footfall of the GI boots is extremely evocative. The message of doomed soldiers marching in step into a deep black void of nothingness expresses the complete futility of war.
Michael O'Brien Hey my dad was in Germany around that time too! Cool stuff man. I kinda agree and disagree here. I think it’s the overall idea of war, it’s just so terrible and stupid. It doesn’t mean that what you did didn’t protect people and that it didn’t matter but the idea of it all isn’t great. I know world peace isn’t just going to happen but it doesn’t mean I can root for war either, even if it’s for the right reasons.
@@eadlynjune I believe the US motives go beyond world peace and this is the most saddening, they make their youth believe in Uncle Sam and dying somewhere else for "peace" sake with a little extra, fighting men they armed themselves. All this youth wasted is terrible.
@@michaelobrien9285 and at Peter, I can see the futility being less in fighting a war. More in fighting a war they know is not just. Vietnam was just a god damn stupid conflict to be involved with. All the pointless deaths on both sides... The lingering effects of agent orange on civilians (deformities, birth defects). All in the name of fighting the exaggerated monster of communism (Domino theory, etc.) That's the example on presentation here but yeah there are other conflicts we just never should have been involved in.
@jon jon goufema liames zenbin pinfen Are you fucking illiterate mate ? I never said the opposite and actually criticized the way the US waste its youth through nonsensical wars. Jesus, morons being condescending cause they are too stupid to understand simple sentences :D
I saw this when it came out in 1979 and I knew how great this musical was and my opinion hasn't changed. Watching videos of them performing this live on Ed Sullivan, Smothers Brothers, Dick Cavett and the Tony Awards from 1968 always makes me begin singing and dancing.
This song is still a devastating and beautifull piece of music, the clip is chilling, it remind me about the fact that nothing has changed the last decates.
I think my favorite part of this scene is the black girl's unspoken transformation. When she first appears in the movie, she's dressed like a schoolmarm with buttoned-up dresses and straight hair tied back in a tight bun, and when the Tribe go to Nevada, she and the kid kinda just go along for the ride to be with Hud. But here, she's front and center with an afro and hippy-style clothing, suggesting that she ended up joining them. I love it ❤️
3:21 the shot where the camera moves revealing the results of war, the zoom in Berger's grave and the PERFECT TIMED reversed shot showing the characters, backlighted but low angled, as they start the chorus... Just perfect. Only three shots. RIP Milos Forman
I remember the day that this final scene was shot. There was a request for people in the DC area to wear 1960's style clothing fo r this scene. I was in high school in the 1960's and it was surreal seeing so many youngsters in the retro outfits on the mall glad to participate in a massive crowd scene.
MONISA MONTOYA wow really for some reason I wish I was born back then. I feel like nostalgia big time listening to this, specially watching this clown Trump
A really good quality audio and visual clip. Thanks! The "spider web" of the tombstones is just one subtlety that it took me more than one viewing to appreciate.
Hey, when the group went to Nevada to meet Claude it was winter, Berger died in April. So for a guy who wasn't trained at all, he survived pretty long time.
Yes it is !!! But The REAL message is about enslaved American Folks going in wars with the only aim to occupy other lands and to die in those senseless wars for the profits of the federal Bank and other imperialistic interests
This always makes me cry like a baby. So many young men sacrificed, so many innocents. Yet... it also makes me proud of my generation. We rejected the lies. We were true to our hearts. We knew only love could make real change.
@wutup5566 We boomers would have a better reputation if the rich kids had gone instead of the young men who suffered. Among other things, we would be spared the crass hypocrisy of former hippies who agitated for change who are now trying to turn the clock back to what they were rebelling against.
I watched it in the cinema when it came out. A ten years old boy. I remember when we walked out at the end so many people with teary eyes. 52 years old now, after doing my own tour, I can't watch this or sing along without crying my ass off. FUCK EVERY SINGLE FUCKING WAR PROMOTER
Only someone who grew up in a peaceful, plentiful time and place (bought for them by the blood shed by young men like those, and the blood they spilled in turn), would call their sacrifice "a waste".
dom uncl I wasnt being disrespectful to our fallen veterans and I truly believe in the mantra, "Freedom ain't free". Apologies all around for my poor word choice.
Any war is a horrible tragedy...Vietnam all the more so because it was so unpopular, and our warriors treated so badly, those who made it back. It was before my time, but I have an Uncle that was in country, and still suffers from it. Thank you for clarifying, sorry if I jumped to an unwarranted conclusion, have a nice day.
dom uncl You too. I did grow up then. I was young 7 or 8 when it ended but i remember protests bc Ohio State University was my backyard and Kent State, well it was "up the road" a bit from Columbus
Afghanistan 2021. I never was there but some of my old Bundeswehr unit died in Kundus just a few years ago, all for nothing, we were lied to from the beginning. I watched this clip multiple times over the years but this was the first time I couldn't controll myself crying because I now know what so many people had to feel in the 60s/70s and generally in human history.
So the guy trying to chase the plane, Claude, is an army conscript who belongs on the base. Before being enlisted he befriended a group of hippies in New York, and they came to visit him on the base. They weren't allowed in, so instead they devised a plan where one of their girls seduced a senior officer on leave and stole his clothes. Using these clothes the hippie friend Berger got into the base, found Claude, and swapped uniforms with him, so that he can pretend to be him, answer roll call for him while Claude visits the friends outside the base. In this scene, Claude is returning in the officer's uniform to find Berger and swap back, but at that time Claude's unit is mobilised into Vietnam, and Berger has to play along with it, getting dragged there instead of Claude, to his death.
Oh ok... honestly this is kinda weird. I get the set up of the plot but it just comes over as a bit too idiotic... as if no one is going to notice it is another dude...
Jan Shegers in the scene before this, some of the soldiers in the unit do notice Claude has changed into someone else, but they think its quite funny or dont bother asking. And once they notice he is different on the plane its too late
Get ready for the forces drafts for the strikes on Iran. Don Junior Eric and Ivanka won't be going. An autoworker from from Anderson Indiana, a bartender in Kentucky, a college student from California will be the ones going to die for them these people have nothing to do with this war.
@@peaceseeker6436 stfu...no drafts, no war with Iran. Even if there was no draft is needed. We are an all volunteer force, well equipped and professional military force.
As resonant and powerful as the day it was written, made even more affecting by Forman's staging. And as The Tribe calls out to audiences everywhere, we can still go forth and create change in this world!
