Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 3 'The Queen's Justice' REACTION!! 

Despite Lyanna Mormont being fierce, I think Olanna would have wiped the floor with Lyanna.

Kim F. Kjær Yeah totally. It doesn’t change the fact that they’d be great allies with the same mindset. I really hope Lyanna Mormont will play a bigger role in Season 8.

@@zedwhy371 They would. I hope, too. Though I fear most will die next season during the war against the Night King.

@@KimFKjr No doubt!

That would have been so Epic, I think Olenna would have taken her as her daughter teaching her Everything.

Actually, the way I see it, Tyrion's plans were pretty solid. To say that losing Highgarden and Yara's fleet were his failure and lack of foresight would be discrediting the Lannisters' cunning. Jamie was able to produce a counter-strategy by merely anticipating his little brother's likely moves. Tyrion grew up knowing that Casterly Rock was his family's main base of operations. It doesn't seem he was told before leaving that the family castle was no longer valuable, as he was only on a need-to know basis from the way we've observed his family treat him. Secondly, The loss of the iron fleet was more of a negligence from Yara and Theon's part. They, more than anyone, should have known that their uncle was hunting them down, and should have prepared accordingly. It wasn't Tyrion's or Dany's job to be on top of that.

I don’t think Tyrion has a lack of war strategies. Yuron, I still can’t work out how the hell his ships were throwing fire at Yara’s fleet (anyone??)! And Castilly Rock, the plan was good, but turns out Jaime and Cersei had their own plan on the go at the same time. An I ask what you mean by if Ser Barristan were alive Dany wouldn’t have lost the Tyrell’s and Dornish? Not arguing, I’m genuinely curious to hear what your thoughts are on that.

But Jorah is coming back! He is a war advisor!

@@katiei7103 i think they meant that since Barristan was a very good warrior, he would’ve counceled dany better on war strategies.

I always thought it be cool if Ser Barristan and Ser Davos teamed up or barristan becoming Davos’s teacher and teaching him how to fight they would have made a great team

Damn right you ain't, buddy!

Drogon has impeccable timing....

Sup, cousin

Dragon: "WE KNOW!"

Jon "I'm not a Stark." Rheagal "Damn straight you ain't."

Exactly! And in Jon's mind, Daenerys is out of her mind to demand that he bend the knee just because she told him to. Both are right, given their respective journeys. They are also wrong to expect each other to automatically give in to the other's demands. I love them both (my 2 favorites), but let's face it, Jon's story (by his own admission) is hard to take seriously, and he should've had something more concrete to offer (though, he probably feels preservation of mankind IS the offer. ). Meanwhile, Dany should've acted less entitled and condescending, and maybe she should've held off on the knee bending. They both need more allies, and can't afford more enemies.

WOOH. PREACH. THAT'S EXACTLY THE COMMENT I WAS LOOKING FOR 👏👏👏👏

I understand Jon more than Daenerys. Some crazy rebel? He is refusing to pledge his loyalty to the daughter of the person who killed his grandfather, uncle, and sentenced his "father" to death because of his own madness. I'd tell her to go fuck herself too.

@@Sellot91 Jon told her that zombies are coming to attack..,

@Joseph Miller That's not needed. Everyone sees it from Jon's side

Even then she's being more than reasonable since everyone knows dragons are actually real whereas White Walkers have been gone for many generations

You know nothing, Daenerys Targaryen

Everybody needs to read this who in the world will give you their army to fight someone you don't know exist and it sounds like a freaking lie and have nothing in return, fuck off all of the butthurt are snow's fans who don't like when someone tells no to jon

Let us remember that Stannis answered the call to help the Night's Watch (and basically save the realm), where no other king or lord did. That's being King. If Daenerys is the Queen, she has to look out and care for her realm sooner or later.

Thank you! Everyone hates on her for the same thing they cheered her on for previously.

nah, she's a bit annoying here but I forgive her because she quickly came to her senses :-)

I wish the show would have left in all of the discussions from the letters that came from Castle Black and Thorne bringing the wight arm south that basically rotted on the way down to kings landing. There are so many little discussions about nobody believing anything coming from Castle black about white walkers that I think it would have helped everyone understand Dany's side better if they would have kept those conversations in. The only other person in the entire Seven Kingdoms that believes them is Stannis and that's only because of Melisandre. The Queens men at castle black, really melisandre's men, don't even believe the brothers of the watch and make comments about it.

Tyrion does believe him. He literally said he does

@@ChrisLamia Tyrion is a good lad; I think he believes Jeor Mormont more than Jon at this moment; Tyrion was clearly shaken when he saw such an honorable, brave and good man like Jeor act truly afraid and warn him that the monsters above the wall were real. I don't think he believed back in S1, but it's easy to see the memory of that conversation pairing with Jon now to shape his opinion of "oh fuck the myths are real"

She has 3 dragons and and cannot believe in zombies

@@someshghumaria4512 Jon saw the dragons so he would have believe at that time she wasn't lying in the letter she sent to Winterfell, but she did not see "the death" so, you gotta see to believe otherwise you would fall in everything people say and that would doom you

Sure, but I personally think it's more badass and more in line with how the northeners are just to not spend time on silly titles.

Difference is Jon Snow didn't ask her to bend the knee. He put his life on the line to come there to work with her and form an alliance. She could have burnt him alive the moment he got there and he still went anyway

@@vikingjedi573 well Dany told Tyrion to invite him there to bend the knee and Tyrion did not mention it in his letter. Tyrion knew exactly why Jon was being invited. Obviously, "come South to bend the knee" would probably come off more threatening and Tyrion knowing people better would be like, "no that's not going to work", but he still did this. I mean, you can tell the writers did this because they want to show the two stubborn good guys go head-to-head and create animosity in the audience. It worked.

@@iloveyourunclebob yes but jon should still expect this to happen given tyrion specifically says "join us" and sansa also makes the point that she has come to reclaim the seven kingdoms and the north is one of them, although tyrion doesn't say bend the knee jon shoul at least expect it

@@andrewpania2702 who says he didn't expect it? I think he expected her to tell him to bend the knee.

@@-hasamastersdegreeinwumbol8565 yes that's why I'm saying he did expect it, some people thought that he didn't expect it which doesn't make sense.

And she didn't rat out LF, wishing upon wish that he will end the Lannisters somehow. And if he ends up on the Iron Throne she gives zero f... about it. Poor Jamie. His father, Cersei, Blackfish, Olenna.. a man can only take so much, body & soul...

I don't buy this. She's seen dragons, warlocks making clones of himself and creating fake realities in the house of the undying. The King in a land she doesn't know has been chosen to rule the North, why would they choose the leader if he's delusional and imagines dead men coming? It's not that farfetched in the context of this show really.

Chikina I didn’t even watch the reaction yet and I almost expected them to immediately side with Daenerys. Wasn’t expecting them to side with Jon.

@@allbies Dragons have been extinct for 100 years that's nothing. They're not THAT special. A little magic is common in the world so warlocks with parlor tricks and witches with curses are possible if little hard to believe for someone who hasn't experienced it but a zombie army led by something called the Night King? Sorry that's a bit far fetched. Especially from a guy who told her basically to fuck off and in the next breath that she needs to pack her bags and go North to help him. BTW she probably thinks they chose him because he won the battle against the Boltons.

Chikina to be fair Dany has dragons like she said no one believed in dragons until she brought them back...Dany’s offended because she knows she’s not the rightful heir.

Alex Nicole Totally agree. This was masterful writing. I’m always surprised when people react to it like “why is s/he behaving like this?!”. It would be totally unrealistic for them to have been any other way. They’re both finding their way and struggling to figure out the right course. I loved it too x

Scriptonite Reacts right, and I mention it because so many people are quick to blame anything a character does on “bad writing” in this season when they do something that viewers don’t want them to do. It would be unrealistic if everyone just got along and there was no conflict!

@@alexnicole89 That's funny actually, because I never liked it that much. I found Dany's personality not to be in line with what she has always been, and Jon's explanation quite rushed and bad-presented. I was always very sorry that I didn't like their first meeting, so I'm relieved and happy someone did! It's kind of rare to find such positive thoughts about season 7 :D

The Dark Side of J to each their own! Something I’ve noticed is that outside of the internet, all the people I know in real life that watch the show enjoyed the season overall. I don’t think it’s the strongest but I think it gets shit done and that some (not all) of the major complaints lack nuance

+Alex Nicole If you're limiting this to scenes D&D come up with, then yeah I guess this is a pretty good one. If you open up the rest of GoT, the scene isn't that good... I think my favorite scene D&D has come up with has to be Theon's scene this season. You know the one. Absolutely amazing. It felt like something from the early seasons. It built up a range of emotions within me all within 10 minutes and made me literally say "Wow, I really like Theon". Until that moment, I didn't really feel anything besides pity for Theon, but after that episode I really started rooting for him.

That moment KILLS ME. She’s so small and almost child-like in that moment, and Lena acts it so subtly and beautifully and impactfully...it’s stunning. She’s beyond brilliant.

Tiberiu Vrinceanu I fully hate Cersei, but she was completely in the right to take out Ellaria and Tyene. The killing of Marcela was uncalled for.

I'll beg to differ. Have you seen "the Sara Conner Chronicles" ?

@@robertrodriguez1964 I would not count a poorly-written Terminator spin-off as anything. You are only as good as your material.

I don't care about the others She was my queen

Why should he bend the kney lol. They both needed each other, U are biased dude. Jon was fighting for mankind unlike Dany who just wanted the Throne. Jon doesn't give Shitt about King and Queen. and as he said if he had bent the knee, his ppl would've lost faith in him. U don't understand these things

@@Oliver-es6qv both jon and daenerys acted reasonably, though. jon knew nothing about daenerys just as daenerys knew nothing about jon. why would they show a stranger that much respect? EDIT: you know, you sound a little biased, too. maybe don't criticize someone for sounding biased, it's hypocritical.

@@pomegranatejuice5139 how can u say Danny acted reasonably. She acted like a spoilt brat like she always does

@@pomegranatejuice5139 I think its because this is the start of where Dany has completely changed. before she used to be merciful. she gave people a choice and opportunities to live. now its just bend the knee or die for everyone she encounters.

​@@aya-_-3045 it's because these people won't give her the choice. She was going to be assassinated when she was just a baby just because she was related to the mad king

Jenna time jumps, to much going on now to waste time on travel like in the earlier seasons.

That was everyone this entire season lol... I get why they did it but damn it’s weird after watching their travels take entire seasons up til now.

Rush to end the season/series.

Steef Lee And somehow no one complained when Katelyn travelled from Winterfell to King’s Landing in next episode? First episode ever, Cersei and Jaime are in KL, then in Winterfell within the same episode.

The hate on Dany is getting annoying

Nobody said that she should trust Jon (yet), and if they did, I’d say they’re naive or the minority and not the general consensus. Where she is right to be criticized is expecting a King to “bend the knee” to someone he doesn’t know, a descendant of an overthrown ruler AND house that’s no longer in power in the West, all while he isn’t even “declaring himself king”, but rather taking the position from someone else who HAD already been declared king in the north. The “faith” was already BROKEN between House Stark and House Targaryen when her father burned Lord Stark and Brandon Stark alive. There was no faith left to break. So what’s Daenerys really going to do if someone doesn’t “bend the knee” to her? Bring her dragons to some peaceful Keep that’s minding their own business with tens of thousands of innocent people in that castle and keep and burn them all with dragonfire until someone agrees to “bend the knee”? It’s pathetic that she even asked. I’m a cold hearted person, so it likely doesn’t matter, but if I was the lord of Winterfell and King in the North, I wouldn’t bend the knee based on such a threat and if she wants to burn all of us and have no North left for god-knows-what-asinine-reason, let her. I’d submit myself to the dragon fire as soon as I knew there wouldn’t be a king or lord in line to take over my position and “bend the knee” to justify people taking power through force. Burning the Red Keep filled with people who keep trying to kill you? Necessary. Burn the North/Winterfell with people who are just happy ruling themselves and going about their business farming and harvesting before winter comes because you have some obsession with ruling? Absolutely pathetic. I love Dany, but her obsession with “bending the knee” is absolute pointless.

@@HylerMusic Seriously, screw Daenerys, especially for this meeting with Jon where she took an L. The circlejerk for her is ridiculous.

They're surprised at how annoying and passive aggressive she is being.

Jonathan George - What circlejerk? Men have always hated Dany (that’s an observation, not an anti-male statement; I’ve also never understood why *women* tend to hate Margaery. I love both characters. 🤷🏼‍♀️) The big unwarranted circlejerk is over another female character. It didn’t happen until the HBO series, so my only guess is that it’s due to that one being put into awful situations that happen to OTHER characters in the books.

But Dany knows how frustrating it is to know something and tell others but still have them not believe you. She knew exactly how Jon felt but still made remarks at him and at the same time also expected him to give u his people. It made no sense.

Ooh, this is a great point. Cersei might not be great at military strategy at all, she might just be playing out Tywin's plan. Great comment!

I could totally see that especially when Tywin was like, alright give the northern girl to the Imp we want Marjorie as Queen because her daddy is stupid rich.

MissGreatBritian it’s because people love Jon and don’t realize that it’s her first time meeting him

Why should he bend the knee? The north is nothing like the south culturally. If they don’t want to be ruled by southerners then why would they want to be ruled by foreign invaders?

Liam Williams she isn’t a foreign invader as she was born in dragonstone. And winterfell/the north regardless is still part of the seven kingdoms. Doesn’t matter he comes in demanding for help and things that he needs, but he won’t bend the knee for her. First time meeting, and he’s asking her for things when he comes to her castle, her home. She hasn’t watched 7 seasons like we have and built a connection with Jon. This is her first meeting, things he’s saying that she doesn’t believe, can’t blame her, as Jon didn’t believe in dragons. She wants all people in the 7 kingdoms to be loyal to her. Otherwise she feels she’s not queen if everyone doesn’t follow her. Makes sense. She wants to be a good leader, that is why she helps people, if she sees people in danger, or in need of help, she will act. But if she doesn’t believe something and doesn’t think it’s real, why would she lend a hand to someone she just met? But once she believes, she will help with all her power and you know that

Micah Harrison she’s not foreign but her entire army is. I know where she’s coming from but I’m explaining why Jon wouldn’t bend the knee. Suppose you have to come from a country that has been ruled by culturally different people to understand. Us Irish we’re conquered and oppressed for centuries by people who were nothing like us. Which is why I relate to the likes of Jon and Robb more than most characters in the show.

Liam Williams spoiler... He ends up bending the knee so 🤷‍♂️ But as of right now, he can’t come up into her home with request and things he needs from her, when he won’t do 1 thing she asks of him

I appreciate that so much, it would have been so easy for them to instantly fall in love or something like everyone wanted to happen.

😏

Exactly! I liked so much this episode because the Jon-Daenerys interaction was believable and faithful to the characters. All those irrelevant fanboys and fangirls who wanted an alliance from day 1, or event a "love at first sight" shit, they don't get what GOT is about....

@@arismaiden6457 Exactly!! I hoped they would've gone that way throughout the entire season but Jon and Dany just fall in love and it's just not believable and I still (after the finale) dont feel like they belong together. So the relationship is pretty badly built.

@@kledi3817 Uuuh I know man, but don't spoil upcoming stuff. It's kinda predictable I know, but I m sure they don't want to know anything about future episodes. But I totally agree with your point.

Exactly! She is acting no differently than she has always acted. She's entitled to the throne simply because she's her father's daughter. She used her husband and his people to drive her brother to the deep end, ensuring his execution, and establishing herself rightful heir. She uses evil creatures (they burn and eat whatever and WHOever they want) to overpower everyone who brings her displeasure. She simply names them "enemy" and they die. Lady Olenna didn't offer her sound counsel, she just told Dany what she wanted to hear: Be a dragon. LO had nothing else to live for except vengeance so, of course, she'd tell her to be a destroyer of worlds.

blame D&D

@@venicesurfer that's... kinda beside the point

@@venicesurferyou can blame D&D for some things but not for this

Very clever but remember it was Rob's move first. That's how he captured Jaime.

@@michonneokoye4990 Yes and Jaime learned from his mistake and applied it in an even larger capacity. All great generals learn lessons from defeats and other skilled commanders that they have experience against or record of. The fact that he learned from his season 1 defeat (though arguably this had less to do with him making a mistake as Robb cleverly and intentionally sending the Lannister scout back with wrong intelligence) and adapted is what makes him a good military leader now. He has shown that he has grown to take the role of a commander seriously and is actually very good at it now that he can no longer be the best warrior on the battlefield.

That's why I love all Lannisters (Cersei included). They aren't the strongest, they don't have superpowers, they are not popular with the people, but they still manage to get ahead of the game because of their wit and unpredictability. It helps that they have awesome actors too.

@@DreamOfTheRebel I actually agree that overall the Lannisters are the most interesting and deep characters and have by far had the best actors of all of the Houses.

@@CitroChannel What mistake did he make?

That's the key for me with this conversation. If you are coming to ask for help from someone and you are also declaring yourself King In the North, what is she supposed to do? I kind of felt like both their responses towards each other were reasonable. And honestly, in the end, she gave more than she got...at least in that very moment.

I totally agree with you! I hope they read this, I feel like people think Jon is always right, but Dany has a point too, like you said

@@Keeks33 Uhm she is also declariing yourself Queen of Westeros because... reasons. She thought she was gaining a big part of the kingdom, he arrived expecting a negotiation.

I agree. Jon has the bigger goal in head, he doesn't even consider Daenerys' war against Cersei, and the "importance" it can have (to her). He doesn't realize that she built her entire life to get there, and that, tbh contrary to people in the North, Dany never grew up listening to the tales on The White Walkers. He's basically asking Daenerys to take all of her army and march North instead of South where Cersei is. For all she knows, he could be a spy working for Cersei, trying to weaken her- no matter what Tyrion says, especially considering that at that point when they're meeting, Tyrion just made a critical mistake that cost Daenerys her fleet. Yes it's frustrating to see them bickering about power, just like it was annoying to see all these people in KL ignoring the Night's Watch messages during all the previous seasons. But tbh that's the point of the show, and that's what make the stakes higher. It makes for better drama, for sure...

@Dularr i agree, it would be the wrong decision for the north to march on kings landing, and im not saying that he necessarily SHOULD bend the knee. just that i can see why SHE would want him to, given that he's asking her for help to fight something she doesn't believe in and they don't trust each other yet. but yes, i also 100% see why he doesn't want to bend the knee. they both did nothing wrong, in my opinion.

Well, for all of Tyrion's well-readness, he didn't read Grand Maester Ch'Valathan... Ch'Valatesh.. Ch'Valteesh.. Ch'Vyalthan's book on the Great Sieges of Westeros.

didn't compare to Arya and The Freys

I kind of wish the captured and tortured "greedy butch" Obara instead of the pretty daughter.

And satisfying

Fritz Matthew yup, Grandma Tyrell did say be a dragon!

Fritz Matthew I agree. Dani wins when she’s a dragon. Every clever scheme of Tyrion’s fails miserably and costs her. And let’s not forget, his wonderful reign as Hand in Kings Landing ended in his near-assassination and ousting! And Tywin won the Battle of Blackwater Bay by bringing in the Tyrell’s last minute as the Lannister army were about to be crushed by Stannis. I love Tyrion to bits. But people really overstate his abilities 😂

Exactly!!!! Yet again, Tyrion was outsmarted lol his strategies have been terrible since he killed his father and Shay, he kinda lost something.

I don't know, she just lost all her allies. An alliance with the North is looking better and better.

@@Nandrall18-25 Agreed! A north alliance is exactly what she needs right now.

I know im late to the party buttttt. I hate this scene because Danny has completely changed. Before she gave them a choice now its bend the knee or die. No choice. She'll give slavers an opportunity to live but not the people she so desperately wants to rule over.

@@des_18 facts

@@Nikolas5842 not facts that’s a stupid reason lmao pls

"She's being really stubborn right now" Yeah it seems like they would just give away half of their kingdom to a stranger that asks for it xD

exactly. She started off as merciful and forgiving and about giving people a CHOICE to follow her. She invited john out of nowhere cause she heard he was a king and now there can not be a king of the north cause it's thetening. He told her he does not want anything to do with the iron throne haha. @@des_18

Jaime is really the strategist that is countering Tyrion's war moves. Cersei is the schemer and politician and Jaime is the military mind with Randyll Tarly as his ranking general.

Jaime has become even much better as a military strategist after losing to Robb.

If Jorah or Barristan Selmy had been with Danny it would have turned out wayyyy differently

J.F.L. Bousquet The problem is that Tyrion did not expect Euron and Jaime’s strategy. The strategy that Jaime used tricked the brilliant Tywin himself, so of course Tyrion has no real experience to predict it. I think that people expect so much of Tyrion because he is smart in politics. He has no hindsight and can’t counter-act factors that he doesn’t know.

@@Yousefabuljadayel - Tyrion probably couldn't have known about Euron's armada, although I would argue an armada that size should have been easily seen and scouted from Dragonstone as they were sailing in to Blackwater Bay. However that fail happened, it was on the Greyjoys, not Tyrion... There's really no excuse for what just went down at Casterly Rock though. Tyrion was master of coin for a time in King's Landing; he had to have known the mines at Casterly Rock were tapped. Even if successful, this was just an incredibly poor part of the plan because the risk/reward just doesn't add up to a net gain if the mines are dead; and now the Unsullied are surrounded in the heart of Lannister bannermen country... this problem was foreseeable and should have been avoided, in my opinion. I just don't view Tyrion as a war time strategist. Even at the Battle of the Blackwater, his plan was effectively Cersei's plan as she was the one who started stockpiling wildfire in preparation for Stannis' attack; Tyrion just pulled the trigger.

Thank you I just made a comment about that !!

Agree

I did.

Also put yourself in Sansa's shoes

Love Me what does any of this have to do with Sansa???

Actually Jon wanted to be allies with Dany. Dany just wanted to rule over him. Daenerys kept questioning Jon and kept making remarks at him but she still expected him to give up his people. Where's the logic?

Next WEEK?? GRRR

@@servertest next year ~ GRRM ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@@Misiek808 Cheeky!

Hope we get 2 parts!

@@Misiek808 hehehehehehe I like that

Jon always assumes people will believe him. Hence why he got killed by the Night's Watch.

@@MARYWTHER In his defense, it's been drilled into his brain since he was a child. "Winter is coming" -- Ned Stark, every day for years.

Yes, Jon wasn't very convincing. No, he didn't assume they'd believe him. He admits to Tyrion that it IS hard to believe.

ResFantasyfan True

@@ResFantasyfan yeah but that's after this meeting when he's saying "why can't you believe me? if I heard, oh wait. nevermind, I get it now. I wouldn't believe me either." He did go in there assuming they would believe him and didn't realize that it was unbelievable until that talk with Tyrion. They literally show him realize it in that scene.

Dany used to tell everyone she had dragons but no one would believer her. The same thing is happening here with Jon. She knows exactly how he is feeling.

Also....eh..."She was mine and you took her away from me" are not the words of someone who loves their child, but someone who sees their child as a possession.

And it's not fair to expect Jon to just bend the knee to a complete stranger just because she tells him to.

@Byastovic Sin - She lost her 'birthrate' when Robert took the throne by conquest and started a new dynasty with him at its head. She has no right to the throne, no more than Jon does, no more than *anyone* right now considering all valid heirs have died. One of the big points of the whole series is that the whole concept of birthright is messy and in the end isn't worth anything, and on top of that, we discovered this in the real world, too, so you don't need ASOIAF to understand it! That's why ruling monarchies are few and far between these days, because we know that that kind of stuff doesn't turn out pretty in the end. Promoting the adherence to rights to ascend to the throne isn't smart to begin with, but it sinks to a whole 'nother level when the person in question doesn't even HAVE this right. She has zero rights to the throne, and she's a foreign conqueror at this point. And one with same dangerous and volatile ambitions, too. Dragons and Dothraki don't often leave much land that's worth ruling over.

I didn't say that, nor did I imply that. Jon doesn't owe Daenerys a thing. He's asking for an alliance, she's expects blind fealty, so she can rule over him. There's a difference. Unfortunately, at this point we can't discuss what winds up happening. We can only talk about the story up to this episode. And right now, Dany only sees Jon as a rebel, ergo a threat to her (One who may be a bit delusional). And Jon sees Daenerys as an entitled brat whose only concern is the Iron Throne, and not the best for mankind. So we're both right; Jon and Dany shouldn't be expected to just do what the other wants without knowing whether or not the other is worthy of such loyalty. Neither Dany nor Jon should be expected to give up their goals at this point.

Remember when Dany would tell everyone she had dragons but no one would believe her? Apparantly she doesn't either here. She knows how frustrating it is but she herself does the exact same thing with Jon. She has dragons but suddenly zombies existing seems surreal? Also, why would Jon just kneel to her? He finally had the north and he knew how much it had suffered and he didn't want it to go throught that again. He wanted an alliance but Dany just wanted him to kneel. Dany keeps questioning Jon and making remarks at him but then still expects him to give up his people. The writers made her extremely arrogant and stupid here.

I would be in rebellion against her too considering what her father did to Jon's family.

Dany knows how frustrating it is to have something yet have people not believing them. She knew exactly how Jon felt because she had been in his exact position before. And why did Dany expect Jon to give up the north? Ever since they met, she keeps questioning Jon and keeps making remarks at him yet still expects him to give up his people. Where's the logic? Jon also wanted an alliance, Dany didn't.

@@aleenawaqar909 you are right at some points, but jon fails at making this alliance fair enogh, we are talking about not only taking your army but what she considers "her children" to a war where they could die, all of what you worked so hard to get, Jon should have made clear what the alliance would benefit both parts, she helps in the war againts the death and Jon then helps her to get the iron throne but it was no mention in this scene, what i saw was "you have to help me!" and nothing more...

@@nicolasguzman519 I agreee. Jon didn't explain it so well

Archangel Michael lmao

*JON*

The MARUL wut? :D

Archangel Michael not john

Jon ain't the father to drogon. Jon the father of an oversize wolf

Diana Rigg received an Emmy nomination for Outstanding guest appearance on a drama FOUR times for this role. (Her first Emmy nomination was in 1967 for playing Emma Peel in the cool spy drama, The Avengers).

Aye, she was also the Bond girl in On Her Magesty's Secret Service. And she's a Dame Commander.

RIP Diana Rigg 😔😔😔

Right? They would have been perfect this episode!

@@AmarthwenNarmacil should we maybe start a petition for them to wear the costumes for the finale of season 7? That would be iconic tbh 😂

@@saradojcinovic6146 i think nikki would go all mad king with how much she was fidgeting with the wig lol it would drive her crazy

I agree 100%. Those bitches killed a teenage girl, just to get back at her family. They had no mercy for her, so I feel the revenge was justified....and awesome.

monicawism the sad part is that they technically make me root for Cersei for a moment.

Well said!!! Amen sis

@@hushedBitch much appreciated 😊

@@Ryan-km7kd Totally feel u. We gotta defend our queen!

I understand that Dany has no reason to believe Jon at this point, but the white walkers are both of their problems. He's not actually asking her for anything. He's telling her that they both need each others help to defeat the white walkers. I don't expect her to believe Jon right then, but Jon wasn't hardly asking for anything, and she just comes out and says bend the knee.

Ah yes, all spectacle, no substance.

Still doesn't give her the right to be this arrogant.

You deserve a upvote just for the mention of the Wilder and Pryor. Well done

I'm just saddened that you left out peanut butter and chocolate.

@@MarvRoberts Ewww

@@Dreamfyre_ Are you Irish, TAZY? It's okay. I understand.

@@MarvRoberts you watch the Irish people get triggered by peanut butter on Facts. too?

IKR It was like .... Eh -- Ah -- Oh I see what you did there.

Agree but Dany knows the position Jon is in. She kept telling everyone she had dragons in the earlier seasons yet no one would believe her. But now she just makes witty remarks at him and keeps questioning him yet still believe he would give up his people. She was made really arrogant and stupid here.

Why Lena Heady and Ramin Dwjadi have not won any awards for their work in GoT, I will never know?🙄🤔🤔🤔

@@jimmackey6110 Two of Hollywood's worst mistakes...

Even though I wasn't a fan of their acting in season 5 and 6, I think the actresses who play Ellaria and the daughter did a pretty good job too.

Lena is the best actor/actress left in GOT besides Nikolaj Caster

As if Hollywood has any sort of rhyme, reason, or morals behind who they give awards to. The award shows are just hollywierdo pedophiles and sex abusers patting themselves on the backs. Frankly Lena Headey deserves a better award than they could give.

Nina Hartmann I love Euron lol

Dont forget abt Drogo. How can she belive ppl rise from the dead and march in armies to take over the world? Drogo was in a vegetative state

@@anycullen21 Oh that's interesting!

I mean, she should expect people claiming to be king since she's just showed up here herself. And the dead army only came up once the discussion was going. She could have been at least courteous given than he showed up and was willing to talk to her when she is for all intents and purposes a foreign invader

one oh her ministers said he was a good dude...

@@MarieAnne. That expectation is not unfounded though, there's information withheld in this scene. Tyrion vouches for Jon as being someone to build an alliance with. Dany sends the note with the expectation that IF Jon shows up, he's coming with that pledge of allegiance. So when he shows up with other intentions of preaching crazy things about fighting an army of the dead instead of the note's intention, she's naturally going to be annoyed. I think a lot of people get thrown off by the "attitude" in this scene, but it's normal. I don't think the writers would do something without intention, which is why I've always read that scene deeper than the surface.

But Dany knows exactly how Jon feels as she had been in his position before. SHe didn't have an right to act that arrogantly.

Dang sucks

Why should he bend the kney lol. They both needed each other, U are biased dude. Jon was fighting for mankind unlike Dany who just wanted the Throne. Jon doesn't give Shitt about King and Queen. and as he said if he had bent the knee, his ppl would've lost faith in him. U don't understand these things And just look at Dany she was starting to become more arrogant, power was getting to her head

"Unlike him her Dragons are there." Well, so does the wights and the white walkers, all she has to do is ask for evidence, which she didn't do. You see, when a King of the largest region of the 7 realms comes to meet you seeking for your help without his armies, putting his own life in risk just by meeting you, you gotta understand that he is freaked out about something and he is serious about what he says. Sure, you can be skeptical, but it's stupid to reject his narrative outright. Especially if you have witnessed all sorts of magic yourself in your own lifetime (eg: Dragons, Fire Resistance, Witches, Warlocks, Visions, Prophesies etc). If you cannot understand that simple logic, you are a shitty ruler.

@@harishrao2000 The Dragons are literally there in Dragonstone. At the moment they are the only thing there, not white walkers to which Danny has no knowledge of since she's been battling slavers and their armies. Someone put it best in these comments about it being frustrating for the audience only. We know Jon is telling the truth Danny does not. Shes a wise ruler to not just say yes to what Jon is saying. Just as Jon is smart to not just say yes to her claim to the North. It's makes sense for the story for the two to be wary of each other's claim. In any case for this show, nothing is simple logic, people are being unjustifiably to critical about Danny just because she didn't believe the man in open rebellion. Which is how she thought of him. He himself said he would not believe it if he didn't see it himself.