Gaming Chairs vs. Office Chairs *NEVER BUY THESE* 

But... will an office chair give me additional +69 FPS in cyberpunk!?

I'm so glad I graduated from the Gaming chair style. Buying an ergonomic office chair has been the absolute best move for the home setup in years, hands down. My posture is better, my shoulders feel lighter, I feel more productive, and I don't have to be ashamed of sitting in a neon carseat whenever there's a video call.

"You're not going to be laying down or reclining that much in an office chair." Bro.... You don't know my work habits.

The problem I have with office chairs is finding one with high enough back support. I'm 6'8 and they are usually pretty small for me

Tbh buying a chair is a lottery, since most of the choice is online and you can't try them on, and even if you could, a 3 min sit down is not the same as sitting there for more.

Ergonomics is an interesting thing because depending on the size of the person the needs are very different. For example, so many people say "avoid gaming chairs" and to get an ergonomic office chair so I did. I have been using an ErgoChair from Autonomous for years and while its a good chair. I recently decided to ignore all comments about anti-gaming chairs because of one thing, I'm rather tall. I am between 6'4" - 6'5" and there is no office chair that I could find designed to fit me. On the other hand, the Secret Labs Titan XL is made for people of taller stature so I decided to give it a shot. I havent had it long enough to review it but so far I do have to say that I like the fact that my head is actually supported by the headrest unlike every office chair I have ever sat in.

I really despise what the term "gaming" has become associated with. It used to be that when you bought a gaming product, you bought something actually designed to be useful for gaming. Gaming mice for example typically have higher DPI or more buttons. Gaming displays have high refresh rates and things like onscreen crosshairs. But then the decline started with gaming headsets, which featured pretty colors; gaming PCs, which featured pretty colors; and of course gaming chairs, which featured pretty colors AND generally worse comfort features.

I would like to point out that gaming chairs have different sizes. If you've bought one and it's too tight for you, then you picked the wrong size option.

I’m a gaming chair guy. I bought expensive office chairs and the seats always rip. I bought a cheap gaming chair and it last for three years until I upgraded to a better game chair.

FINALLY, someone actually giving some PROs and CONs.

the video everyone anticipated but no one dared to ask! thx btod. ps: just saw the vera chair with the optional headrest. it'd be nice if you did a review of wether it's worth it or not and the adjustments it offers

If only standard office chairs leaned back as much as the gaming chairs, they'd be perfect. I get in the office environment it's not practical, but for the home office environment for people like myself that spends most of their time there, it is.

There are gaming chairs that offer 4-way adjustable arm rests. I do agree that the flimsy strapped lumbar support is terrible, there are other options that provide an incredible lumbar support. I personally bought the AndaSeat Kaiser 2. Even though I bought an oversized chair, it provides so much comfort and support in all aspects which I use for gaming and my home office career. Having a headrest on your chair is comfort on another level! I do with there was a mix of office chair and gaming chair. But until then, my AndaSeat is killing it!

I tend to go with the executive office chairs and wait for a good sale to make up for the higher cost. They tend to be made comfortable enough to sit in them for multiple hours at a time, with lots of padding. The high backs make them easy to lean back on, too.

Can't belive I'm actually commenting on something.... Anyhow, I do care more about posture and health and gaming on my old Walmart office chair was killing my back. And sometimes after work come home and game and fall asleep in it. Yeah that was painful. Now I spent a bit shopping for a chair and I can't bring myself to spend hundreds on a chair like this. Now those prices he stated about all of them being under 400 is true. What he failed to mention was him comaoirimg a racer that you can get anywhere from 80 to 110 dollor, comparing that to an office chair costing 300 plus dollor. That's a big difference for someone like me who wouldn't want to spend that much. Now in the end I did buy a racing style chair, not the gt racer or whatever it's called. And I spent a little over 200 and that, for me, is insane lol. But I had to. But I went with the racing style chair cause it was the only one in my price range that offered the lumbar support, the custom leather, the adjustable arm rests, tilt, rocking and all that. In that same price range I found nothing office chair style that offered all of that and seemed of good quality. So I'm calling bullshit on the whole price to features thing where office chairs are better and offer more in way of function. Now I can't speak on durability as far as the chair I purchased goes, but it Seems sturdy and it's very comfortable. I wanted an office style chair, these racing chairs are just cliche and idk, everyone has one and I don't like being part of a mass group lol (and I actually do mostly Sim racing and still wanted an office chair) . But for the money it was the better option from what I found. Keep in mind I'm also including quality of build in this too. So yeah I found office chairs that can do what my racer does but they were cheap and just not seemingly well made. And reviews, their about useless cause everyone either says they're garbage or amazing. Idk. But this video seemed a bit misleading. Price points were exaggerated when comparing 2 chairs to each other. That secret lab, THAT chair is expensive and that was a fair comparison. But comparing the gt racer, those chairs are as base and cheap as they come. And compare that to a 350 dollor office chair? Get out of here. That's not even the same leuge acting like the racer has less features and made without function. No shit, cause it's a cheap chair. Lol.

Used a (too small, too unadjustable) gaming chair for working-from-home (and continuing with gaming in evenings), paired with a too-low unadjustable "gaming" desk, and it took only about 4 months to develop actual sciatica. Now working in any position is painful, and fixing it (exercise, physiotherapist visits) takes extremely long time. Picking the "gaming" options, instead of a decent office setup with adjustable desk, basically cost me at least a year of my health (if recovery goes smoothly...)

Coming from a guy who is 180cm, 80kg, and has minor scoliosis, the SecretLab Titan XL is really really good. It's big, doesn't constrict movement, has fantastic posture, adjustable lumbar support, adjustable overall chair tilt, very stable, very rigid, and durable. If you want to buy a quality chair that costs around USD 400-500, get a quality gaming chair like SecretLab. They are definitely no Herman Millers, but the quality and durability are almost always better than an office chair at the same price range. If you have a lot of money to burn, get a top end office chair, no gaming chair thus far can compete with top of the line office chairs like Herman Miller.

"And you don't care so much about having 4-way adjustable arms and fancy lumbar support" *Frowns while sitting in his fancy secretlab gaming chair with 4-way adjustable arms and fancy lumbar support*

A friend of mine just dumped a one-year-old Secret Lab for a five-year-old Herman Miller Aeron and loves it. Pretty sure that's what I'll get now. But I have no problem if someone wants a highly-decorated gaming chair because they think it looks cool. We're all different.

Super helpful video thank u!!

I actually just moved from a mid tier office chair to a secretlab titan evo 2022, and honestly I think the adjustable lumbar feels better, its not placebo because I am sitting in it all day and I do feel an improvement.

What gets me interested into a gaming chair is the wide back tilt I can't get from an ergonomic chair I use right now. Plus the mesh gets all the crumbs and cat hair stuck.

This is the most helpful video explaining gaming chairs and office chairs that i have ever need!!

When I was younger I messed up my back, so I'm very picky about my posture. I had a gaming chair for two years, I noticed I slouched in the chair which messed up my back. I recently got a steelcase series 1 chair and my seated posture feels great, and the cushion and mesh back is much more comfortable.

I have a gaming chair, and leaning the back .. back, isn't comfortable at all, you end up with the head much lower down that intended. I just lock the back and tilt the seat instead. While I've had my chair for almost 3 years and it still has no noticeable wear and tear, I am swapping it for an office chair for better ergonomics.

being able to recline down tho is still a very important pro for the gaming chairs if you have them at home.

Was forced to buy a gc because the oc where I live are either too cheap or too expensive and the warranty is the same, the market here has organically decided that gc are the go to for price to performance. I did manage to find a gc with single colour and non outlandish looks.

Thank you for these information 😊 Very helpful😇

I bought an Embody this year, and thus far, I have no regrets. I graduated from exclusively buying Secret Labs chairs, and while they're great, they pale in-comparison to the Herman Miller lineup.

I have a fairly expensive office chair for my at home setup. And then I sat in my husband's expensive gamer chair and it was so much more comfortable. My back pain went away once I started using my husband's gaming chair. And my work had a professional ergonomic company come in to setup my office setup with my office chair and it still did not help.

I’ve got a Humanscale Freedom and a Sparco chair. There are so many gaming chairs trying to look like race car seats. Sparco make race car seats and sell a pedestal that bolts to them so they can be used as a chair. There’s a big difference between something that looks like a car seat and an actual car seat.

This is the greatest comparison video i've seen on the toppic, thanks for the help you're putting out!

What I like most about the gaming/racing chairs is they make u feel like you are sat In them. But I bought a leap v2 & i hated it because it felt like it was kicking me out of it. Do you know of any office chair/s that keeps you in it like a racing/gaming chair does?

I owned a gaming style chair for a few years. It didn't take long for the cushion to bottom out after long use, which would cause a lot of discomfort after a couple hrs... like sitting on a hard floor. I switched to a second hand Aeron, which is pricy but I've had no issues with discomfort, plus the chair is known to last for ages, so the price is less of an issue.

I bought an ergonomic office chair off Amazon but it was fairly cheap and the cushioning is quite bad for long gaming sessions. It's otherwise a good chair but I think you have to be willing to spend good money to get something for long usage.

My gaming chair have this tilt thing I guess some have that. I hoped for great sitting experience, I didn't care about looks. I thought it would be much better to sit for long time, and it's definitely comfortable but I may try office chair one day and see if it's better.

2:36 me tryna watch a film from my phone

One thing to make sure to check is the reviews for a product. Specifically the negative ones. They can be your first sign that a chair is actually really bad and you should be wary if there aren't many reviews in the first place (or simply all positive ones since 5 star reviews are practically worthless these days). Also, be wary of shady business practices. If you see someone mention those sorts of horror stories with the company, it's probably a good idea to stay away. Speaking of horror stories, my last chair was actually an office chair from Vinsetto that seemed pretty good at first, but wound up being utter shit. One of the armrests wouldn't tighten properly. The cushioning was meh at best. The chair started randomly sinking after a few months. Eventually, it completely crapped out and wouldn't raise up at all. It even left these obnoxious black plastic shavings on my floor. And when I left a review? The shitty company went "nah, not our product" and deleted it. Why the hell does Amazon even allow that?! Incidentally, when I took a picture of it in the trash to prove that it was in fact their terrible product, the review still didn't stay around. Stay away from this company and their products. Stay FAR away.

Many thanks for this good summary!

Very professional and informative. Nice 👍

I am Student and spend most of the time sitting. The previous chair that I used lacked headrest so caused a problem. So pls suggest me a chair that's comfortable not fancy with headrest.

Really good vid but I would like to point that in MOST gaming chair you can remove the back attachments which makes it quite more comfortable,well at least for me that's why I would prefer a gaming chair over an office 1

I'm a digital artist I'm often slouch over to draw on my drawing tablet on my desk. What chair would you suggest for a digital artist that is trying to improve their posture while they draw?

Hoping to get some feedback. I have a gaming chair and wanting to replace it. What id like to know is, what are some recommendation to replace the chair with. This isn't for a home office, its for me to game on and watch Netflix in. So would like to get a good Chair for posture but also be able to snooze in it.

What are your thoughts on the Titan Evo 2022? It has a lot more features than any of Secret Lab's older chairs and is apparently way more durable.

I have really bad posture, my shoulders are too far forward. I don't understand how I'm suppose to sit in my gaming chair when there is side bolsters sticking out from the sides at shoulder level. It forces me to slouch forward with my shoulders since there's no room to pull them back in a natural position. The bucket seat design is really bad for my posture. I really need help, I've looked all over for a solution for this problem but I've had no luck. A response would be greatly appreciated because my chair is ruining my body and I can't afford a new one 😔😔

which one is better to prevent neck and back pain ?

Thanks! this really helped

As someone short in statue, I gotta say that I have yet to find an office chair, in the price range of a decent gaming chair, that would offer lumbar support which I'd be able to adjust... to actually support my back in the lumbar area and not way too high up.

Can someone recommend the best all rounder office chair with adjustable lumbar support, mesh seat & headrest for around 150-300 British pounds. Thanks in advance!

Could we know what are those chair you're comparing? thanks

Could you please tell me which is better the fabric Leap V2 or the leather one? Does the leather one get hot or slippery?

Gaming chairs are evolving though, we now have the Herman miller embody logitech gaming chair, and also Mavix has a lineup of high end ergonomic gaming chairs that are very different from the typical racing style gaming chairs.

I think something a lot of people overlook also is that a car seat is supposed to support you as you're driving and accelerating, thus giving you a lot more contact with the cushion vs slouching forward while using the computer. They're completely different applications with different sets of ergonomic requirements. One of the reasons I want something like an Aeron so badly is the forward tilt support, it really follows and supports you even if you're not actively leaning into it, and to me that's invaluable - actual game changer in my view on chairs and ergonomics after trying some Herman Millers in store.

Great video. Thanks!

I’m in a position where I’m buying used, so will probably buy gaming as I have never owned an office gaming chair. But later in life when I buy new, I would get the best office chair at that time. I just wanna try it out rn, and see if it really is as terrible as people say they are.

you know the secretlab chair comes in different sizes right? you're sitting in the omega secretlab chair which is for people up to 5 ft 6 lol they have a titan series which are for bigger people

This video is an absoulte MVP. My gaming chair just broke on me yesterday and I was looking for a new chair to buy and immediately considered another gaming chair of course. But then I asked my brother and he asked me if I would consider maybe buying an office chair like he has. I then thaught: Well what exactly are all the differences that those two types have. The race car type sticking out of course but I wanted to know all of the differences. After your video I asked him if I could test his a bit to see if it works out too for me. It did and it has all those things I would never have checked for if your video didn't tell me and now I think i will get an office chair thanks for your help.

I got the Alfordson. It was really bad and fell apart. I then graduated to the Secret Lab chair which has a knob to adjust lumbar height and another for curve. Not sure how or where the Lumber should be. I am terrified of a mesh office chairs because I am heavy. And my skin deals better with synthetic leathers. Do you have any ergonomic videos specifically on the best practices for supporting the lumbar?

This is the best and honest review I have ever watched in my entire life. Thank you very much!

What are your opinions on the lumbar support of the 2022 secret lab titan Evo with built-in 4 way adjustments?

Interesting video with a lot of good points IF we're talking about standard gaming chairs, which are usually trash, let's be honest here... The last model of Secret Lab gaming chairs fortunately don't have those drawbacks talked about here though, so you're pretty much safe in choosing this instead of a standard office chair. Also, standard office chairs typicaly don't have a head rest, which I personnaly find to be a very important option considering my neck pain..

I just got the anda seat T-pro 2 it hasn’t arrived yet but from what I’ve heard, it is quite similar to the secret lab

Ive switched to ergonomic chair, Looks like gaming chair but the functionality is combination of office chair and gaming chair (can lean back and have lumbar support)

I dunno man....my Secretlab Titan 2020 comes with a 5 yr warranty, has a built in lumbar support that isn't just some back pillow, has a support weight limit of 290 lbs, and gives me the freedom to move around in the chair unlike most racing style chairs.

Vertagear PL6000 has been my chair since 2016 and its so comfortable that I can sleep in it. Its design also fully supports my back without the lumbar support pillow. I actually use that same pillow for my neck. BTW, many gaming chairs have 4D armrests. You just have to know where to look

For US where there's a lot of different office chair to choose from. This does not applicable to my country as most office chair is just static without recline or whatever ergonomic adjustment. At least I can lay back and get proper nap with my neck supported with gaming chair.

What is the name of that white chair in reclining compared to the gaming chair. Can't find it! Thanks

i bought this gaming chair so i can match with my soulmate

I have yet to outwear or break down a high quality office chair. I've broken two gaming chairs in four years, twice each. If covered by warranty, it takes 14 days without a chair while it's being sent back to factory. Never again. For me, metal back and metal seat parts bent and broke, and plastic (!!) castor mounts brittled and broke. As well as plastic decorative plates coming loose and breaking due to becoming brittle (but does not hinder functionality). These chairs are designed to break. How anyone dares take sleeping position in them is beyond me. Get a proper recliner. Now I'm going expensive office chair next with decent warranty, and I'll check with store if they have a part replacement system setup.

So I’m 130 pounds, 5’8 and get upper back pain every once in awhile what chair do I need?

A SIGNIFICANT flaw I notice with most modern office chairs is that the upper-back of the chair leans away from the user too far, so the user has to recline in order to be sitting against the full back of the chair (even if the back is fully tilted forward), but if the user is trying to sit upright, the upper-back of the chair is too far away from the user's back, meaning that their upper body, particularly the shoulders, are unsupported. In addition, with any chair using this design that has a headrest, the headrest is too far from the head, due to being mounted on the tilted part of the chair. When it comes to lumbar-support, the adjustable lumbar support mechanism is sometimes mounted on plastic, which bends away from the user when pressure is applied by sitting in it. With all this in mind, I cannot imagine that this can be healthy long-term. I have not used gaming chairs, but based on the examples in this video that they at least try to account for head and shoulder support by making the chair large enough for that. Also, they seem to rely on dense (but not solid) material instead of mesh and plastic, which probably reduces pliability and provides more support.

I spend a lot of money on a premium gaming chair only to discover I cannot stand that it pushes against my shoulders. I just cannot handle the bucket racing design. I need a flat back for my shoulders. Now I again have to spend a lot of money on a premium office style chair that has a flat back.

Any recommendations for chairs? I wanna get a office chair but am considering a gaming one because I want my head and upper back to be supported. Any office chair with a headrest has been super expensive.

Hello, I actually need help in choosing Herman Miller embody or steelcase gesture. These are the only two chairs available in my country . My back pain after longer period siting - spinal misalignment. Which one is better . Your input would be greatly appreciated. Checked your webpage on that but it never mentions about lumbar support on embody vs gesture . If you can make video on best lumbar support without price point . It would be good.

I feel out of place with my wooden kitchen chair and cushions. Isn't back pain more of a matter of posture anyways? I never had any back problems, even after prolonged sessions :/.

I respect your opinion, however i think gaming chair has a better value for money than an office chair, maybe it's just in my place however i found gaming chair with more features ( i have been looking for a cheap office chair with rich armrest adjustment and a headrest with no luck) as cheaper than office chair with the similar features, therefore i think a good office chair is very comfortable however significantly more expensive vs features compared with gaming chair, I lived in Medan, Indonesia, do you guys feel the same in your countries?

i actually prefer gaming chairs over office chairs for confort, mainly because of my height. I am 187cm tall (6foot 2) and i sit behind a computer 6+ hours a day, sometimes even 10 or 12. but there are very few chairs available for someone like me that are specific to my height and not wayyyy too expensive, especially when you need a headrest like me to take some rest in between those long hours of work. most normal office chairs don't have nearly enough lumbar support for me because they are all to low (most of the lumbar supports are at about the top of my hips, nowhere close to where i actually need it) so that strap mechanism from gaming chairs allows me to take any hight I want. the only office chairs that are good for tall people like me are specialty stuff that is really expensive or not available near me, we had one good chair from IKEA but it was the same price as a gaming chair, non-moveble armrests, and lumbar support so shallow that we would have to stuff something behind my back to get any support. i will admit that racing style seat style is a little to narrow for my shoulders but i don't mind that too much. but i got my "gaming" chair for about 150euro/180usd and any good office chair for people like me would at least cost 2 times the price, probably 3 times. the only thing i had to do was move the headrest pillow up all the way to actually support my head (plus my chair got a leg rest so thats nice when you are watching a video or movie, especially when you put your chair flat to get a good stretch).

Thank you for the comparison.

Can you give a try to the new Secretlab Titan Evo 2022? They have now integrated lumbar support, it would be nice to have your opinion.

I have a Steelcase Leap V2, and while I like it, the support isn't great. I got it as a handme down from a family member, because screw the price tag of the Leap V2, it's ridiculous. The lumbar is TERRIBLE, bad upper back shoulder support. Otherwise though the chair is fine. Better than your $150 walmart or even Costco office chair. I have to say, I know people with Secretlab chairs, and they are super nice, but they aren't for everyone. There are some nice Ergo office chairs that you can get for cheaper, but will not have as much adjustability tbh. Depends on your needs, and frame and build. Everyone isn't exactly the same.

you know that a video is biased when you see the creator only hearting comments that agree with his opinion 🤣

The blue chair at 2:40, which one is that exactly?

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My conclusion, sit in what you want as long as its comfortable and have a physically active lifestyle

if you love your back go for ergonomics

If i might add, the reasons i chose office chair over gaming chair; a) this bucket seat type limits your shoulder movement and tends to push your shoulder forward, b) gaming chair tends to have solid backrest compared to meshes in office chair, and c) there are no support in gaming chair's backrest, meaning, if you try to straighten up your upper body, the backrest not going to add support "pushing" you up, compared to office chair, they usually support you at a slightest will you want to lean forward.

I have office chair, please share link to download update for office chair to gaming chair

What chair would you recomend that has good ergonomics and is mainly focused on working but is also good for relaxing and content consumtion? Max Budget 2000$

Ive bought a Secretlab chair before, worse decision in my life. The seat is too hard, the lumbar support is in an awful spot, sitting in the chair gets uncomfortable quickly.

my pc chair is a single seater couch pulled up to my desk, sitting in my sisters racing style gaming chair made it really hard it keep a good posture and wrecked my back

I've been sitting on a 200 dollar Ficmax gaming chair for 3 years and have no complaints. However I just had a wheel break out of the base, so decided to upgrade. Bought the Secretlab Titan EVO 2022 and it should be here Thursday. I recently started a job that has me working from home 2-3 days a week so I am looking forward to this upgrade. I just pray it was worth the 550 bucks. Overall though if the wheel didn't bust on my Ficmax and the armrests weren't torn up, I would've never even considered buying a new chair. This thing has been amazingly comfortable and surprisingly durable. I did have to replace the lift on it about a year ago, but I also have abused it pretty hard over the years. This video had some great points, and it solidified the fact that I'm super excited to get my Titan EVO!

I literally went to try chairs yesterday and gaming chair won, and it was all based on comfort and I wasn't even looking for a gaming chair it was just there. I was honestly looking for a mesh ergonomic office chair. But the tilt and the head support alone on the gaming chair was incomparable with the office chair.

I appreciate the lengths this video went to to be really really nice in saying to thousands of people that they wasted their money on an over-priced, over-designed piece of shit gaming chair.

I have the GTRACING seat in that exact color. The only complaint I have is that I wish the cushion was softer. It’s really hard to sit on

Best review I have seen regarding chairs 👌

I'm using the Steelcase Gesture as an all-around chair (gaming - office - media)

Simply said ... Buy office chair for your body posture and health ... or gaming chair for the hype ...

I Hated game chair because lack of ergonomics. My first chair is steelcase 'Let's B' stll working after 5 years. Love it. Planning to buy 'Think' series chair from steelcase again. 😀

i got a noblechairs hero. one of the few charis that looks less gaming aggresive and have superb comfort features. i dont regret buying it. love it