that battery life is a real plus, I am currently a Roam user and get a good 16hours out of it, same profile I get 36hrs with this ... thats a big plus if need to upgrade
I have a 1000, I want my new Garmin to be as instant quick as that Karoo shown. Still happy with it (added a 32gig micro sd card and uploaded the new map just last Sunday). Still a nice unit and improvement and thanks for the quick look. Quality as always!
Thanks for the great review. I just picked up one of the few available new 1030+'s as I hear there's a chip shortage. My 1000 is on life support which I brought back from the dead after 2 weeks of playing with it. The notorious button cover is long gone but it works. Us older folks, I'm 70, need the larger real estate screen to see where we're going. I'm looking forward to its arrival in the mail.
Randonneuring can sometimes require 40+ hours of charge so the battery pack feature is very good. When I did PBP last year, I needed every ounce out of the 70+ hour battery life out of the 830 + battery pack.
Great review as always. Id be interested touch screen sensitivity with full finger gloves (riding in winter). Throw in some rain. My interest is the navigation function in particular. I have been doing some gravel bike riding and found it a frustrating with the 1030 to have to stop and take my gloves off to explore the navigation screen
the new beep is well known as aficionado from the former Garmin Etrex Vista i started years ago. I missed that intense sound with the then upcomming Garmins so much. Great to have that back again. :-)
Great review. Looks like Garmin is stepping up their game a bit in response to all the competition. Finally! I am still super happy with my 530 but look forward to the enhancements you mention here like to LiveTrack since I ride alone quite often.
Great video Ray! I think the new screen looks so much better. I really would have steered people away from the 1030 two days ago. This looks like a solid option if people want the top of the line device. Still feel like the value prop is a little better on the 530. 🤷🏻♂️
I think the screen on the 1030 plus is the same screen that Garmin is using on current 1030’s. The 1030’s that have had the blue halo, Garmin has replaced with refurbished units with the new screen. I don’t think it looks better.
@@nperson - You might be right. To me it looks brighter and more like the 830/530 type of screen which is brighter and sharper. I don't have this to test but maybe Ray will chime in about the screens
There's definitely a difference. It's a different screen than the original-original Edge 1030's. My Edge 1030 was a recent refurb unit (like, last week recent from back from support), so I'm not really sure if I'm comparing apples to apples or to pears anymore. Garmin is saying though that the Q1 2019 Edge 1030 screen change for the blue halo was/is different than the new Edge 1030 Plus screen which is the same as the Edge 830 tech-wise. Anyway, I've got another screen/routing/etc video coming up on it tomorrow or so.
@@Dcrainmaker What is the screen TSC version on the 1030 plus? The original screen TSC version on the 1030 was 85.11 and the replacement screen for the blue halo is 86.04.
Funny true story: One of my first "dates" with my (now) wife many years ago was set to be a 20 minute bike ride after doing a swim workout together. We got lost somehow and rode for 5 hours. Seriously: www.dcrainmaker.com/2008/09/relaxing-loooong-weekend.html
DC Rainmaker I read the article “Massive-bike-directional-fail. I’ve never been so lost in my life - regardless of the medium - bike, car, walking, life direction - anything. And the people who live in that area are apparently equally as lost - always pointing us in the wrong direction.” People that live in the area equally as lost 🤣
I am not a fan of touch screens for various reasons, especially when it comes to rain. I do like a lot of the features on the 1030 plus. I decided to upgrade from the 130-Plus, therefore I'm hoping that you are correct with the rain test demonstration. I could not help but notice that your demonstration 10:10 was not in the pouring rain. It appeared to be underneath a cover of some sort. I guess I will find out the first time I get caught in the pouring rain, and I am relying on my touch screen not to jump around, and still react to my touch screen inputs. I can hardly wait for my unit to arrive. Thanks for the review. They help a lot when it comes to final decision-making.
Dude thank you a lot. I have been wondering and read a lot to decide betwen those two. Your review helpt me :) I'll go with garmin but only becouse of batery life and here where i live garmin is only 50 $ more expensive.
Yeah, I do wonder when we'll see it cross over to the cycling division. Perhaps the battery gains just aren't worth it there relative to how big a battery you can fit inside. I'll have to ask sometime.
I have the 1030 and I like it. Not sure the updates on the plus are worth and upgrade. I wish Garmin would upgrade the software - you only get climb info when you are in navigation mode but not segment info. Segments are only popped when not in navigation but you don’t get climb info. But somehow I still can ride my bike. 🤔. Great review as they always are.
I upgraded my Edge 800 to this one today!. Have not been able to try it out yet cause of rain, but i tlooks really nice. I wanted to use the extended arm mount first, but it feels so stiff to mount the Edge in that one, so I directly thought this is why some peoples edges plastic has broken. So right now i mounted it in my old edge 800 that felt normal to mount :) The touch feels actually a bit slower than the Edge 800 for some reason, but it has so much more features that i Dont care :D
None of the routes, trend lines, navigation ever worked for me on the regular 1030. Just ended up using it to record my rides for training and check the time of day.
Haha! I JUST bought my 830 on Saturday. To be honest, I like the form factor/size of the 830 MUCH better, and I'm glad they didn't update the 830...because then I'd be REALLY upset. It looks like the 830 was the benchmark, and now the 1030 Plus has finally caught up, so I don't think we're missing out on too much. -Shane
Maps everywhere is huge. I bought my Fenix 6 while on vacation in Europe and didn't even think about the fact that I would only get Europe maps and wouldn't have anything once I got back to the States. It's been one of my only regrets about the watch. Spent so much time trying to work with third party maps, but it was too much of a PITA.
Hi, thanks for your reviews. What would you recommend for MTB usage: 1030 or 830 ? Why this question ? Because it seems the stability for 830 is better than for 1030 plus using MTB support ? Thanks for your feedback / recommendation.
The current re-routing (or lack of) on the Edge 530 is infuriating so this is a welcome addition and will hopefully trickle down. But Garmin’s choice of the micro-usb instead of usb-c on a new device in 2020 is unforgivable.
The bigger screen & the mapping would be the only reasons I would consider going back to Garmin from Wahoo. If Wahoo released something along these lines they could take my money.
Can you comment on the display clarity or PPI? GPlama said it looks "fuzzy" in his review, I'm afraid they did nothing to increase display clarity and are just upscaling the GUI.
Great video. Concerning the screen halo. I had my 820 replaced by Garmin once because of the halo only to have the second unit look just as bad within a year. Is it that hard to manufacture a screen that doesn't halo? At this point I won't buy another Garmin until I know that is fixed.
@@philippmerth3746 Same here, still in doubt! Are all features the same since the update of the 830 like live track, ... ? Or is the only difference the size, weight and battery life?
I have an Edge 1030 and the plus offers nothing that would make me want to change until the 1030 breaks. They have updated 2 of the main things that could be improved though....processor speed and the screen. In terms of features, the original 1030 offers more than enough in my opinion :)
Yeah, I have to agree with this. To shell out $599 for basically the same thing is absurd. They really should have reduced the price of the device to lure loyal Garmin owners to upgrade. At this point, it makes ZERO sense.
I was thinking the exact same thing. In fact, I bought the 1030 a few months ago when the price dropped a great deal and everyone was anticipating a whole new model coming. In fact, I have on my 1030 much of what is on the Plus.
@@Big2Planker This is just an update to fix all the issues they had and move to the same HW (Sony GNSS) they have in other devices. And for me, it is completely fine as I got money back for my broken 1030 and my new 1030 plus is on the way... :) Sure, it is not worth for existing 1030 users, maybe with USB-C it could be a deal-breaker .
I have the edge 1000. I use for road, xco and trail. Is it worth the upgrade? I run and swin too and use forerunner 945. The edge 1000 doesn't offer load exercise and vo2max info on the bike, so my garmin connect health and fitness status is never accurate with my run and swin activities.
The pause and re-route feature seem like a huge improvement my 830 is terrible for rerouting. Why is it a 1030 only feature? screen size? maybe more difficult on the small 830.
Actually wish the alerts were even louder, seriously. I wear hearing aids off the bike but not on it due to sweat and their expense. I couldn't hear the plus through this video without the aids in but could with them in, maybe in person it'll be better and I would hear it on the bike. I can't hear the original 1030 alerts except the crash with or without the hearing aids, quite certain it's the frequency used and my limited hearing range. Everyone else can hear my 1030 so I know it's not a problem with the device. Would give me a bit more comfort with my Varia to hear alerts is all.
So, question: Because I'm me, and I can't possibly ever have anything that is mainstream, I have a Garmin Edge Explore. I don't have a power meter, and that's really the only difference between the Explore and the more common Edge models. So I'm curious if any of these updates will eventually make their way to the Explore model? You mention other Edge models, but not the Explore. I am hopeful that the answer is yes.
Still waiting on the Hammerhead 2. I hate I lost my Hammerhead but if the two is anything like the first I think I'll be replacing my 1030 Bontrager with it. Any insight on when you will be able to release that review?
Just bought one (with a Garmin 30% discount) to replace an Edge Touring Plus that became faulty (and Garmin couldn't fix or replace) and the Edge 830 that took its place. I found the Edge 830's screen too small, and returned it for a refund.
Hello, please , i need help, whatsapp notifications does nor appears in the screen, but they are in notifications, my device and iphone are connected, i have followed all setup steps, thanks.
how does the navigation compare to the 530? i hate that it doesn't really show me the route where to turn left/right instead it just shows a general left/right and i'm so confused which road it actually is and plenty of times i turn wrong. imagine a quick left/right/left the 530 is nonsense and i need to recheck with gmaps on my phone
@@Dcrainmaker it does show, but i''m somewhere else, don't even know where to see street names. i also find then the re-navigation horrible on the 530, gmaps would always route me back instead of "off route, u-turn". i love the 530, but the navigation is really not for m :/
Great review, thank you. I have a question that you may have an answer for... I've been looking for either; - a large screen GPS for cycling, and/or - a GPS that has audio cues. Is there such a thing?
Hey DC, so what's the word on the ACTUAL most important update. Is there dual band GPS? As far as I'm aware there still isn't an accurate GPS bike computer when conditions are bad. Like ANY MTB ride in tree cover or in valleys. Dual band GPS is far more accurate than current tech and is now in the latest smart phones. When are we going to see it in bike computers?
I'm a new cyclist and want to buy my first bike computer... does it still make sense to buy the Garmin 830 to 1030+ this time? Considering 1040 already came out? How long do you think before garmin stops supporting 830/1030+ ?
How long does it take to transfer the settings/activity profiles/sensors? Does it only do it on initial setup? Is it possible to initiate this process on your own after initial setup? How do you know its doing it?
Pretty sure i once saw one of your videos where you had a overview over all edge release dates. But i cant find the video again. Do you still have that list? Or maybe know where i can find it? :)
Great review. I recently purchased both the Edge 1030 Plus for myself and the 830 for my son, according to your review the screens should be identical apart from size but I noticed that the 830 had a much brighter and crisper display, the blacks are black where as in the 1030 plus they're kinda grayish, was that also your experience or did I get a faulty device? I tried fiddling with the brightness but no improvement, even the images in your video are much brighter than my device. appreciate your feedback so I can return the device in case it's faulty. Thanks.
Love that they finally released the Livetrack route like Wahoo has had for a long time now. Have a 530 and glad to see it coming there also. Interesting addition on the “suggested” workouts even though I am using TR and Zwift together. Will this also come to Fenix 6 series? I hardly take my phone now when running due to the amazon music just works.
DC Rainmaker thanks for the reply and Garmin is finally making some strides. Slowly but making them (IE challenges, livetrack, etc). Been a long tome Garmin user way back to the 205 and my current F6X Sapphire is pretty awesome. The betas are making some nice additions as well.
As always a fantastic review. I'm considering buying a 1030+ but have Wahoo mounts on my bikes. Is there an an adapter available that will allow me to run a 1030 on a Wahoo mount? TIA.
Great video as always👌 Do you know if the 1030 will get the suggested daily training in an update ? I've only had my 1030 about 3 months, didn't know they were bringing out a new one 🙈😔
If you bought your 1030 when the price was reduced a lot a few months ago you are not out of anything and actually I would say you are on the win win side! The Plus was not such a Plus in my estimation.
Seeing as 1030 Plus is the only Garmin device that allows for free world maps, is it possible to go into the files on the 1030 Plus and copy a map file to drag and drop onto something like a Garmin Edge 530 that doesn't have that map?
The real question here is if those will be released for old 1030. Due to radio silence and confusing naming scheme going with Garmin I bought my 1030 just a month ago, and now am kinda pissed due to paying basically full price for device just a moment before new version (with same exact price...)
@@Janz_u There are features (as outlined) coming to the original Edge 1030, but not that specific one. Realistically, no company pre-announces announcements. Sometimes they leak, but that's it.
Do you think if using a fast memory card, will improve the heared problems about lack of speed when charging a big route, of the 1030? Or maybe is only for the maps, so regardless of the SD?
what's your recommendation for a garmin unit to mount on a TT bike during an ironman 140.6 (between the aerobars). i cant seem to make up my mind, I like the 1030 plus, but it seems too big and has way too much for my needs (which are some long training sessions, and races), 830? or 530?, the updated 130 ? i know that the answer would most likely be (it depends on what you need), i currently dont have a head unit, and read most of the data from my fenix (power, HR, cadence, speed, etc.) but it's too small, and its hard to read while in aero position (not to mention toggling screens to get all the data i would like to see.. ) , recommendations would be greatly appreciated
Hi everyone, is it normal that the screen colour on the 10303 plus look dull and washed out? The screen definitely looks nothing in real life like all the pictures in Reviews. Is this normal?
I still have the 1000. Can I transfer all my data (Activity Profiles, sensors, settings, etc.) from the 1000 to the 1030 plus ? ALSO: Will I need to install more memory when I get this, or does it have 32gb ?
Great review. Question for the crowd - I only have a Chromebook and Garmin express will not run on it. What features will I not have due to never being able to connect it to an actual computer?
Thinking about scenario where I am riding during cold weather, goes off the route and having to remove gloves in cold weather to select an option; the "new re-routing quick options" at around 5:55, do they need to be selected using touch screen or using buttons? Right now trying to decide between wahoo road and garmin 1030 plus and the practicality around such situations to help me decide. Thanks.
Does livetrack actually work now? What about bluetooth? Not having bluetooth working on my 1030 is my main gripe. I just treat it like an 800 with wifi now.
