Garmin Emergency Autoland Flight Trial 

Lot less traffic to worry about up there ; the chance of a kid running on front of your plane chasing its soccer ball is really small. In a car its a much bigger issue.

@@cmulder002 definitely the truth

@Richard Ren that is just statistics; once there are "enough" of these systems in use sooner or later there will be a set of circumstances its not programmed for and it will crash. Both on the road and in the air.

@Richard Ren That is already implemented; The reason you are told NOT move the controls is that when you do it disables the autopilot and switches to manual control. No need to push a button just fly the plane and press the auto-land button again if you want the system to land for you again.

to be fair his rockets fly themselves too

Make a U Turn when possible

That because you didn't do what it told you too.

There’s a dark spot in your underware!!!

I was thinking the same thing. If there is smoke in the cabin, you've got a serious problem. I hope there is a "repeat" button on the instruction player.

@@bob456fk6 I agree but on the flip side of that, any pilot worth his salt is gonna brief everybody on what to do in the event of emergency, including how to operate the doors. Valid point, though.

@@jmullentech yeah but this is here for when the pilot is incapacitated.

@@natelav534 that's the point of briefing

When I get my vl3 I hope I can have this

That’s Airbus now. And with the way technology is advancing, the dog could probably be replaced by a cattle prod.

Really the airlines had auto land system for year a lot of restrictions like wind conditions

Hector Rios 8, yes, but those systems cost many hundreds of thousands/millions of dollars and wouldn’t even fit in a small ga airplane. We also landed on the moon 50+ years ago.

@@hectorrios2577 yeah but the safe return system if for private aviators, those big proper systems airliners use are handled by cabin crew or maybe a pilot. Not by passengers.

And that's why I'm aiming to enter a different career pathway after school. I fly for the passion, not for the plane to fly for me.

Yeah, not exactly "flawless"... But certainly adequate in an emergency situation.

Zac Randazzo they aren’t flawless that’s why there needs to be a balance of human machine interaction and cross check which is what has made flying so safe

The comments here must come from totally technical not affine persons. How the heck shall the plane get the centerlane? Mus be only gps landing. No camera to look out for the center lane. But they market it as if there are a thousand cams... and a blonde with a beer waiting just for you

Maybe when ATTOL technology is developed and tested more...

I was wondering that myself, I thought it must be the GPS tolerance but it was right of centre line on the synthetic vision screen also so that means the system knew exactly where it was, right of centre lol . . .

There are companies specialized in providing that service of flying for you ; they are called airlines ;)

والله!

Loren Jackson wallah? Really are you Australian ?

Victor Da Silva ? Why doe sir matter if he’s australian

wallah....do you mean "voilà" lmao.

Nah, it should play elevator music.

@@GanzBestimmt Elevator music: "I'm leaving on a jet plane, I don't know when I'll be back again..." Passenger: "WTF!!!"

@@GanzBestimmt Eight miles high

Trim wheels move themselves on normal autopilot do they not?

@@darthscion trim wheels do move themselves a normal autopilot. In most general aviation autopilot systems, the elevator control is purely with the trim servo

W. O. W.

I am assuming ATC has to deal with whatever the system says it is going to do.

I assume that if someone is testing the system then they warn ATC about it ahead of time so they don't send out all the fire trucks and do other things that aren't necessary.

@@RiDankulous they probably did warn them. Doesn’t mean the rest of us listening will be aware

@Apollo737 what was the voice like? Was it an automated “robot” like tone broadcasting to ATC?

OH MY GOD, WERE PROBABLY GONNA DIE! PUT YOUR SEAT BELTS ON NOW AND DON'T TOUCH ME!

Reminds me of the computer talking in Spaceballs before the ship blows heh

"If you touch me, I will file for sexual harrasment."

I had to chuckle at this.

That's the optional SJW version

Les B the funny thing is that it’s relatively simple math, but we needed several different sectors of technology to get to a certain point before it was viable.

My grandfather flew from at 16 (1953) until his 60s and in addition to flying loved computers. He has passed now but every time I see technology like this I think about how totally amazed he would be at the things that are possible in GA.

@@Mrcaffinebean I'm retired now and fly a Super Cub for fun, which only has minimal avionics. However, I was given a Garmin D2 Delta PX aviators watch recently as a gift. It will provide navigational info, altitude alerting, Nexrad radar, pulse ox sensing, automatic flight logging, fitness tracking, mobile music, contact-less payments, etc., etc.. I've also heard a rumor that it might even give you the current time! It's sorta unsettling to know that when I fly my Cub, the watch on my wrist is light years more technologically advanced than my entire airplane.

Les, you and I are of the same vintage my friend, in Navy Flight School in Pensacola I was taught, and flew, ADF approaches. Now a days when I tell current Pilots they just stare at me and then laugh.

As much as I like VOR/RNAV navigation, I would love to practice and master NDB departures and approaches in the air, and not only in a sim.

yea, I am quite speechless what they achieved here

David Ghaemi hahaha underrated :)

what s shitty joke

@@user-tg5wr9cm6k Heres another shitty joke, your mums so fat that when she steps on the scales it says to be continued...

Lol

such a bad joke it made me laugh

I noticed it failed to give information on connecting flights and gates.

3:06

You should check out the NASA PCA... Almost everything in aicraft automation has already been done in some way or the other.. (hell we are landing 30 meter tubes from the edge of space with a single vectoring engine) These are the exact reasons why autonomous drones that fly people are coming, soon.

Well no shit, genius

Flying Dog let’s keep it professional, thank you.

@@Blue_Angel.555 You are too fucking stupid to be a professional.

I want to disagree, but I have personal experience in this area. Lol

The aircraft declares an emergency automatically and squawks 7700, plus it will shut off in the middle of the runway. Both FAA and Airport are coming for you if it was not justified

@Youric Hunt It was a joke about how often general aviators who are also medical doctors tend to get in trouble in the air, with many crashing.

Richard Whittall doctors ruin everything. Try sharing a race track with them 😵😵😵. I’ll get off the track if there’s a doctor at the brief

Yeah, this should be mandatory equipment in all Bonanza's.

If you watched to the end of the video it says that the Cirrus Vision is coming standard with it in 2020 if the system gets certified.

Not really... All they did was put systems that were there two decades ago together. Nothing novel about it IMO. Just had to invest the money, which should be awarded with something more appropriate for private companies.

@@rkan2 the interaction with the outside world is the novel part. But agree not on "Nobel price" level. Collier trophy on the other hand is much more appropriate since this technology improvement will contribute to saving lives.

trust the force (Luke?)

@@sweetghost99 Only a small loan of 1 million dollars.

Just like everything else, the prices will come down. Maybe not until 2035, but they'll eventually will come down. LOL

"how big is your Airline?" "Well, can expand to 20,000 planes during any type of surge event with just the push of a button now..

Blake Belladonna Most GA aircraft are in excess of $500k USD. I doubt RVs cost as much as a Lamborghini...

How rude that she was not introduced!

What they could do is implement a test to make the pilot perform a task and if he fails initiate the autoland.

You are right, VFR pilots flying into IMC is a top killer.

I think it auto initiates after a certain time of no pilot input

@@GabeClendenning hope the time limit is altitude dependent; 10 sec is a long time flying towards terrain. (actually does it do terrain avoidance? with its database and location awareness that should be possible)

think they could add more voice announcements explaining what is happening and what to expect; that might calm people down.

Think of the situations this is intended for, e.g. pilot heart attack. Unless there is a co-pilot they almost always end in fatal crashes. Regulators and Insurers would always prefer something that at least attempts to get them down safely on a runway with emergency services standing by. Otherwise this is what normally happens: www.foxnews.com/us/iowa-plane-crash-kills-four-after-pilot-suffers-heart-attack-police-say

Nicely done.

As a former Navy Fighter Pilot… Please don’t bring up that movie. At least don’t think that’s what Naval Aviation is really like, I could point out 100 mistakes.

the insurance companies will love this ;)

dammit all those hours on ms flight sim for nothing

I really don’t get this nonsense thing, no one is going to be pushing anything when their incapacitated, anyone in the back of the plane will be clueless as to what buttons to push when the fat guy up front is having a heart attack so what’s the point.

@@tropicthndr it must be some big red button! lol

@@tropicthndr pilot will have to advise the pax about this function. It will take 30 seconds during preflight briefing.

@@MarekMarciniak on the vision jet, its a giant red button on the center of the ceiling, that says emergency auto land. In that case, even if you don't give a briefing all of the passengers will see it right away, and know what to press in case you croak at the controls.

Well, to be fair, Garmin have been a GPS company a lot longer than they've been doing aircraft systems. So their experience with GPS means they know very precisely what it can and can't do.

GPS altitude is accurate to 18 ft so You don't really need it... Garmin avionics allow you to set up a GPS approach and put a simulated ILS on your HSI

I'm assuming it listens for a clear channel before transmitting, declares a mayday and states this is an automated message with an incapacitated pilot.

I would also assume that it waits for an opportunity to transmit. But even if not, they mentioned in the video that the message gets repeated every couple minutes, so it would get across eventually.

If you use some intelligence. I will use mine for you. Pilot heart attack switches on auto land or auto land activates itself. Mayday mayday mayday, this is the garmin auto land system, we are declaring an emergency. Air traffic controller, to all traffic we have a mayday, please hold your approach until may day is clear.

Yep, we are all slowly but steadily becoming obsolete. Really amazing!

Steaven Mckenzie probably a quick check of the NOTAMS similar to how Foreflight has all that stuff

It is an emergency, the system don't care

In an emergency you can legally land at any airfield, open or not.

@@bigred5287 Very true. I guess I should be more specific...At a moments notice a runway can be shut down. Downed aircraft, animals on the runway, severe icing any number of reasons. I used to run a flight school's line service and our one concrete runway would shut down for various reasons quite randomly. I'm very aware of all the factors behind the technology as it is directly in line with what I do for a living, moreso I am just curious how quickly the ai/algorithms receive the information and then adjust as necessary.

Bigred Jack Physics says that if you try to land on a runway that is closed for resurfacing, you are about to have a really bad day.

Dual pito

@@pilotavery exactly 😎

@@geoffreybradford I mean basically every single engine now has dual pito and dual aoa. Both are fed to both pfd so that a failed one is ignored.

Then add a new price bracket which is even cheaper with completely automated flying.

@@rkan2 they can call that the "Beechcraft Bonanza" bracket for doctors. ;)

I think so too

So you will have the qualification to press the button, of course. Everybody likes to press buttons!

Because a pilot is not just someone applying pressure on the stick. The machine can aviate, navigate and even communicate for you to an extent, but you are still the brain, the manager of the whole situation. The machine can't come up with creative solutions to exotic problems, it can't see beyond the sensors and it can't do what it wasn't designed to do. Meanwhile, humans are incredibly creative and inventive, have great situational awareness and can easily interact with other humans. One complements the other well. This kind of tech has been used in military fighter aircraft for a while now, so it would make sense to look at the future of these to guess what is the future of civil aircraft. While drones have taken certain missions, they are fundamentally limited (depends on active communications, limited intelligence) and by themselves cannot replace manned aircraft. However, we see projects like in France where the next gen strategy is to essentially have a single or a small group of manned fighters with a fighter drone escort which they can command from their aircraft. What I would learn from this is that it's extremely hard to keep humans out of the loop entirely, but we might need less of them in the future to reach the same capacity as before. This brings the idea of the single pilot airliner. But does it even make sense? Being a first officer before being a captain is a necessary learning experience if the airline wants to get more captains for its fleet, and during that time he/she is also a pretty handy pair of hands. The crew isn't even that expensive compared to the cost of a commercial flight. So, reducing the crew to zero is currently impossible and reducing it to 1 is not that practical for most missions. People scream "but AI!", but AI is really an overhyped technology currently. This system here is using about as much AI as most factory automation uses, and it is impressive because of how efficient it is, how many systems it affects and how it is available on light aircraft on which automation is a new thing. Truth is, AI is really, really not where people think it is. We have tools like machine learning which can produce sometime spectacular results, but also spectacular failure, and if (or rather when) we will manage to create an intelligence capable of displacing pilots, that same intelligence will be capable of displacing pretty much every human from its job. I currently work in IT with a background in EE and industrial automation. I spent most of my earlier career in 3D printing and other additive manufacturing tech. I'm sick of it and currently studying to be a pilot. If I'm going to be pressing buttons all my life, I'd rather do it in the air.

Both pilots and truck drivers are obsolete in the next 10 - 15 years.

@@robertl30 Airliners have been landing themselves for years. Pilots aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

@@robertl30 Trains are on rails and many still have conductors. Pilots are not disappearing anytime in the near future.

b9y I believe that it says the regular emergency call and sounds like what the passengers hear.

Just to the right of my hiding place !!!!!

I bet inside 3 years they add camera systems to augment the GPS and make it perfect. Maybe even ground distance radar

@@MotorsportsX I think there must already be a RadAlt installed in this.

lohphat or a pulse-ox sensor

The Garmins already have something like this for hypoxia -- it auto-descends to lower altitude if it determines you are not alert. I imagine that if you don't recover alertness, it will transition to autoland in that case. So, the only thing missing would be the same sort of alertness detection below the hypoxic altitudes.

BlueLineSpeed good questions. I’m sure it checks NOTAMS for the word CLOSED... I hope

Another reason why it’s going to take many many years to remove pilots

boosti_ alex Yep. And that’s it’s simulator footage on landing.

John Mangiameli thats odd for a system that supposedly works perfectly

@@boosti_alex1428 I would argue that pilotless planes are an easier proposition than driverless cars on several levels. The sensor feeds for aircraft and wiggle room on a runway (vs a narrow road with oncoming traffic) seem an easier task.

@TurnTimeTable Assuming you believe this to be true, what is your claim based on?

Most likely not, especially considering how it didn't track runway center line. I'd think this is a reserve system in the event the pilot(s) has a heart attack, stroke, etc. That renders them incapable of flying but there are passengers on-board. Sure would be fun to disable the emergency radioing and fly somewhere and let it choose somewhere to land while you kick back though!

Not even close. In spite of CAT IIIB autoland sounding like something that makes the pilots job easier... it’s purpose is to allow very low minimums and pilots to concentrate on getting the required reference to ensure the landing will be safe with reaction times that would be impossible to do if the pilot was also landing the aircraft. That was until HUDs became available and now pilots can hand fly to CAT III minimums because they don’t need to cross check instruments. Not only does CAT IIIB require a suitable airport approach and CAT IIIB operations to be in effect, but the aircraft must be certified for it with Autoland capability, two channel autopilot, radar altimeter, etc etc plus two crew (never single pilot) who are trained and current (through simulator sessions) in CAT IIIB operations. And what this does is it allows aircraft to plan to do blind landings with paying passengers. And even if a light aircraft could do it... it’s most likely it would be turned away because CAT III operations greatly reduce airport capacity. Now... in an emergency... like this is designed for. All bets are off. I was caught above fog one night in a Cessna 172 and my plan was to circle until my fuel endurance was critical (no suitable diversionary airports) and then declare an emergency with equipment waiting and do a CAT I ILS to landing or impact... setting the plane up on the 12,000 foot runway like a glassy water landing on floats (full flaps, 100-200 FPM sink) at 200 feet while continuing to track the localizer. Fortunately, the wind came up and the fog dispersed.

I think it's more taking advantage of having no approach minimums once you've declared an emergency. You can take an ILS all the way to zero today if you want as long as you've declared an emergency.

That joke is stale AF

@@donanders2110 But sadly still relevant...

Still gets you down safely... I'm sure it'll improve

I wonder if there's a minimum runway width criteria the system considers when seeking a suitable landing airport?

@@Kaipeternicolas I think it can only improve if they start relying on video & computer vision algorithms to assist in the steering. So, for this iteration of the plane (that presumably doesn't have a camera), I don't see improvement. I work on software that drives big UAV's to autoland with computer vision, GPS, & laser altimeters. I know it can be done - you just need the right hardware, and of course the right software. I also have to wonder if the demo pilot here started to use the rudder to assist during the rollout. We can't see what his feet are doing.

I think its only using GPS location to land right now and GPS is only so accurate. It should be good enough to get you down safely on most runways and it most likely will only choose commercial runways since emergency services will be needed.

@@SirFloofy001 Yeah, it's not clear how they decide which runway to select. In some parts of the country, you're a very far ways away from a big commercial airport.

Fly safe man.

if it was implemented they would have mentioned it. Guess now they just assume the chance of a mid air or runway incursion is low enough to be acceptable during a emergency

It would probably avoid them.

This would be used in an emergency which would give it priority over all other traffic regardless.

@@zachr8274 … except the *other* autolanding emergency. But I'd assume that TCAS integration could resolve that.

It uses the Leeroy Jenkins approach.

They are OATs (Old Angry Trolls)........LMAO

Or just the people that would like to see it operate after a bird strike, or physical damage to the plane, non functioning hydraulics, or you know lightning strike resistance.

@@MatthewHolevinski This is a technology with a promising future to save lives and property. It is not positioned as "The Golden Pot At The End Of The Rainbow". Common sense is so rare these days. Just saying.

@@u12play007 That it is... I didn't imply any of that, nor did I imply anything I said either.

Automation is such a wonderful thing. Ask Boeing.

might indicate it relies on gps alone for its location. That means even small airport can be used for landing this way.