In Gary's book "A Dream Season" he mentioned this game and how it made him feel like a kid again when he went out to play third. He'll always be one of my favorites.
Can’t believe he has been gone over ten years now. A class act, gentleman on and off the field, and my all-time favorite baseball player! Hope you are resting easy wherever you might be, Gary…
Mr Carter signed a couple of Baseballs for myself and a friend of mine not long before he passed away when he was managing the Orange County Flyers. He would talk to anyone. He was truly a class act. I was totally shocked when I heard that he had passed.
Had immense pleasure watching Gary Edmund Carter evolve: 1974 MLB debut - last triumphant AB 1992. Drove Larry Walker home, game winning RBI double beyond Andre Dawson. Very few players devoted more to the GAME than Gary. Pre-game autos, photos & handshakes, stellar defense & clutch hitting. Not to mention positive attitude, never saw him cuss, negative or get ejected. Now that I'm older Gary defines words like immortal, legend. Our World is bleeding for a hero. We had one but he's gone!
2:04 I know this video is about Gary Carter but why is Keith Hernandez not in the Hall of Fame? Just look at that play: fielding a ball at the third base line. First basemen never did that and don't do it today. Only Keith did. And he had 11 gold gloves at first. No one has ever done that.
@@iu2Sadly, due to his lack of conditioning. Keith’s career was cut short when he tore his calf muscle playing Saint Louis against the Cardinals. He was in the midst of one of his periodic hot streaks (where he could carry the team on his shoulder for 2-3 weeks). He was legging out a multi-base hit when the muscle went. He fell between second and third base. I still remember Ozzie Smith tagging him out as he was writhing in agony. It was clear he was seriously injured. While he made his way back, he was a shell of his former self. Had he not been injured early, and remained productive later in his 30’s, he would have been a no doubt Hall of Famer. Keith hated stretching and calisthenics (both would have helped him resist muscular injuries), he was also known to smoke cigarettes in the Shea dugout.
@@beetlespacexdragon7815 his history of drug use also doesn’t help him and he doesn’t have the power numbers that are historically expected from a 1b. He is the best defensive player that’s never been elected to the HOF.
@@TheSjuris I think the cocaine use would have been forgiven and forgotten had he had another 3-4 years of stellar performance … had he been closer to 3,000 hits, he’d be in the HoF with stats similar to Paul Molitor.
what people forget and I hated the Mets since I am a Yankee fan a a big Mattingly fan. But Keith Hernández was the best defensive first baseman I had ever seen. No one charged the bunts better not before nor today better than he did. He always got the lead runner out. They don’t talk much about that. But he did this routinely.
He was the best 1st Baseman in the history of the game. Nobody made it look so easy playing a difficult and important position. It was art when he would scoop out tough balls thrown in the dirt or on short hops. He was the best at stretching to get to the ball on close plays. Nobody better and he's the all-time leader in Gold Gloves! @@marcosc7375
Rose, a young John Franco, Mex was a beast of a defensive first baseman - none better, Carter had a set of balls playing third like that to replace Knight who to my recollection is the only ballplayer I ever saw directly hit another ballplayer on the chin with a punch. What a game. I remember watching it on television. Great posting! "Kid" was and always will be remembered as a GAMER.
In the Mets 1986 A Year to Remember video, Hernandez said he knew the pitcher was gonna bunt and motioned to Carter before the pitch what he was gonna do. Brilliant play by two All-Stars.
Gary Carter shared catching duties with Jim Essian for the Caguas Criollos team in the 1973-74 winter season of the Puerto Rican Professional Baseball League. He also played in the outfield alongside Jay Johnstone (league co-leader in RBIs), Gold Glove winner Jerry Morales and/or Otto Vélez. By the way, would you believe that team also included HOFamer Mike Schmidt, former AL MVP & CyYoung winner Willie Hernández, All Stars Willie Montañez, Sixto Lezcano (also GG) and Félix Milán (3x GG), 1978's Yankees 20 games winner Ed Figueroa and AL 1973 Doubles leader Pedro García ? Quite a team !!!
Yes, I remember watching this game on WOR-TV (Channel 9 in NYC). Dave Parker tried to do a showboat catch that eventually cost the Reds this game, which led to not only Gary Carter playing third, but as noted Orosco & McDowell alternating between the mound and right field (and batting consecutively) because of the brawl. It was bizzare seeing Orosco bat as a right fielder in this game. "The Kid" (as Gary Carter was called) is sorely missed.
I think McDowell had a couple of put outs and field some base hits pretty cleanly and looked natural out there. Orosco looked terrified the Red's might hit one his way. :)
The Kid was amazing....playing a position he never played, and add in the fact that he did so playing in Cincinnati on turf where the ball bounced like crazy and got to you fast..he made it look easy!
I remember watching this game as an 8-year-old Mets fan in 1986. I was already a big fan of Gary Carter when they traded for him the year before. But watching him play a position he never played before and do it exceptionally well made him my favorite player of all time.
One of my all time favorite memories as a kid was this game. I had got hit by a car and was laid up that year so I got to watch a lot of Met games. This team willed themselves to continue winning this season and this game I will take to my grave. I now get to tell my children about Orosco and McDowell pitching and playing outfield in the same game, I remember because they stopped the game to check the rule book.
I watched this game in it's entirety. A fantastic game. The Reds blew a 2 run lead in the 9th when Dave Parker dropped an easy fly ball with two out, allowing 2 runs to score. About three innings after the Knight-Davis brawl, Howard Johnson slammed a 3-run homer, giving the Mets the eventual win, 6-3.
I was only 11 but I remember Parker would always catch a fly ball and flip his wrist down and risk dropping the ball. It caught him that time. I think Franco was pitching for the Reds trying to close that one out.
I played against Gary Carter in High School (he graduated from SunnyHills in Fullerton, CA) American Legion baseball., in 1972. He played 3rd base and he was a man among boys; an amazing talent to say the least.
Yeah lol, saw that again the other night on youtube here and you are right those were some tough guys! That brawl was crazy to say the least and no whimps out there IMO. I still remember seeing Kevin Mitchell with swarms around him and Denny just pouncing on him and punching him repeatedly. Ray Knight as you said a very tough guy as well, not one to mess with so Davis getting hit by him no big deal because he didn't drop or back down like alot would. What a game.
Actually the play keith hernandez made fielding a bunt and throwing to third base was not rare for him. I am a die hard yankees fan but i will say that keith hernandez was the best defensive first baseman i had ever seen. He was the best in fielding bunts and throwing men out at second almost all the times. I wish there were just a video of him fielding bunts. He was a master at it.
I remember this game as though it happened last night! The game aired on Ch. 9 in NYC that night. The reason why all the stuff happened--the Ray Knight-Eric Davis brawl, Gary Carter playing 3B, Jesse Orosco & Roger McDowell alternating between pitching and the outfield--was because Dave Parker dropped what should have been the final out of the game! By the way, nice to listen to the Reds announcers--I'm guessing the voices are Marty Brennaman & Joe Knuxhall (you might be right, bfishkin309).
Now THATS a competitor! Gary Carter is incredible, and that play where Kieth Hernandez charges the bunt and throws the guy out at third, I haven’t seen that play made before or since that time!
back when athletes were athletes..hernandez was so fluid, carter the heart of a lion..one of my all time fav team! right up there with the 86 ny giants! the 2 best move the mets ever made..carter( mont) and hernandez(st louis)..not a dry eye anywhere on the mets when carter passed..says alot about him...such a lovely man and a heck of a player.tough tough tough, but still smiled...rip gary✝️
Recall this game like it was just yesterday. I've got it on VHS somewhere around this place. There were some tough SOBs on both of these teams. Ray Knight may be one of the toughest guys to ever play the game. Davis didn't back down, and had The Cobra and John Denny behind him. I remember Denny being on top of somebody, just pounding the poor guy. It was nuts.
Like many on here, I watched this game as it aired on WOR. My Dad and I watched it together. He was impressed with Knight's right to Davis. He told me he heard that Ray had won a Golden Glove or two in boxing. Talk about a tough 3B!
Gary and Keith were two of the smartest baseball strategists in all of baseball in that era. Just look at how they turn that DP on a bunt! Keith was one of the greatest defensive players that ever played the game. He almost revolutionized first, almost being the key word, because 23 yrs later, fat slobs and power hitters and not much more continue to sully that piece of hollowed ground.
Thanks for posting -- I had forgotten about Gary Carter playing 3B (almost worth the price of admission). I remember this game for Jesse Orosco and Roger McDowell (2 excellent Met relievers) both being in the game at the same time in extra innings. When a righty was up, McDowell would pitch and when a lefty was batting for the Reds, Orosco would come in (and the other pitcher would go to the outfield -- eg rightfield when a righty was up). Great game, I never saw a manager do that; Davey Johnson should get his due as having done a great job with a great '86 Met team. Classic game and classic season (Pete Rose did a pretty good job with a rebuilding Reds team also that year also).
The 86 Mets ruined baseball for me. That was the last time I identified so strongly with any team. I felt like we were family. It just hasn’t been the same.
@@nja3224 hey, I was five years old at the time, it was kind of a delayed reaction. I didn't become aware of what happened until my teenage years. That made me even more angry.
@@jimwerther does it matter at this point? The point was that Cashen destroyed his own team. He couldn't fuck Davey, so he fucked with him. There was no other reason for it. Kevin Mcreynolds a better player than Kevin Mitchell? Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
I loved Gary Carter, he was great guy and a hell of a ball player. Oester was out btw😜. I’ve been number 8 in every sport I played since he was on the Expos and I was a Met fan. Also Thurman Munson was #8 before Carter but Carter going to the Mets sealed it for me. I got to do a video with Guidry, Gossage and Cerrone the year after Munson died. It would’ve been with Munson if not for his plane crash. A lot of fun for a 13 year old. Catching a couple Guidry fast balls was something else.
Even though I was usually a pitcher I was called upon on occasion to play other positions. My favorite place to play was always 3rd base. That’s because it purely a reaction position, and it didn’t require much thinking because I was taught everything is the 3rd baseman’s ball, so you didn’t need to think if you could get to it it’s yours
Here's to Mr. GARY CARTER, the original "The Kid" Sorry Ken Griffey Jr. ........P.S. I met Gary Carter at small card show in Palm Beach Gardens, FL in 1996. All of the money he made went to the Leukemia society. He didn't charge much. He had a special personal baseball card made up that had his favorite Bible verse on the back. I asked him if he could sign it "The Kid," and he did so, no problem. I also asked him on his opinion on whether or not Ted Simmons should be In the Hall Of Fame, and he said YES he thought so, but he said he didn't think Simmons had enough homeruns. I'm sure Gary Carter voted for Ted Simmons, Hall of Fame..... Thank You, Gary.......
Gary Carter was a HOF Baseball Player... but I think Keith Hernandez was also. Most just remember his Mets time but his best years were with the STL Cardinals !!! one of the best pure first basemen of the 70s and 80s.
Hah, remember ember watching this game, and like every night this season I knew there was a possibility there would be a fight. Everyone hated us, but I loved it. Look at that play by Hernandez, that’s just filthy. The best first baseman in the history of this game.
I couldn't stand Carter back then but it was because he was just so damn good. He made a living of torturing my poor Pirates. A lot of Mets did, though lol. Guy was an absolute legend and it's sad that he's gone.
This was the most exciting, and bizarre game of the 86 Mets regular season. Dave Parker dropped an easy fly ball to end it in the 9th, and the Mets tied it. Then THE BRAWL, with Ray Knight and Eric Davis, where four Reds were containing, or trying to contain, Kevin Mitchell. A bunch of guys got thrown out, leaving the Mets with Carter at 3B, and Howard Johnson at SS. HoJo ultimately won it with a homer in the 14th. Most bizarre was that for 2 innings, Roger McDowell, and Jesse Orosco alternated between pitching and playing outfield BATTER TO BATTER. If a righty was up, McDowell was pitching, and Orosco played RIGHT FIELD!!!! If a lefty was up, Orosco pitched, and McDowell played LEFT FIELD!!!! Has to be the greatest regular season game the Mets have ever been involved in. Twilight Zone bizarre. Kid Carter played 3B, and made it look easy. A testament to the superior athlete he was. Outstanding. RIP to a great gentleman.
Gee, he played third base like it was his normal position. Agree with the guy down below who said he was a baseball player and not just a catcher; that inning proved it.
