Gaugamela (Massive Battles) 

his battle remembered me the History Channel Documentaries when they used Rome total War I simulating battles like marathon, Kadesh, Thermopilas... Awesome job bro!

17:10 lmao that horse said "fuck this shit"

I dont know if you're aware Oakely, but you can press "t" to go through the different speeds of time. So, if you were in cinematic cam, and slow motion, you dont need to come out of it to press play, just "t"

14:38 dat badass slow-mo kill

That is Awesome! I was in that battle as Pyrrhus.

How did Alexander command his army so effectively? I mean for us playing this with merely a 20,000 unit battle FROM A BIRDS EYE PERSPECTIVE is hard, how on earth did they command and react effectively? Also how long did this battle last irl?

Don't believe them, huh? Well, in my day, I fought along side with Alexander and it was common to UNDERestimate the numbers. I can tell you there was 250,000 at least against my hoplite troops.

Cool looking battle. :) For a second attempt, I would include some Thracian allies on the centre right of Alexanders army to bolster the attack and I miss the Bactrians, Scythians and Cappadocians on the Persian side, the actual quality besides the Medes... :) As far as I remember, 47.000 men were on the Macedonian side, the sources seem to agree on that. I believe however that the Persian morale was extremely bad and that was the reason for success. Darius offered peace to Alexander right before the battle and made high concessions. You don't do that if you thnk you are superior. So I think he did not trust his troops. Also his army was on standby the whole night. So the battle was lost before it began. What is interesting is, that Darius seemed to have deployed according to the geographical origin of hs troops. Scythians and Bactrians on the left, Medes and Cappadocians on the right and Persians plus local levy in the centre with himself obviously as the most central figure. This could be due to language issues but also seemed to have a symbolic meaning. Maybe you could include that. :)

Awesome battle, that last parthian player was really smart, I think if they had armies like that on both flanks and then focused on punching a hole dead center, they would've done a lot better, but props to them for holding out with those very low tier troops

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OMG! You actually did it! Awesome work man, keep up the great work you are doing :D

Awesome vid 10/10! My suggestion for your channel would be to re-enact Alexander's total campaign from beginning to end through massive battles and your commentary. Just a thought keep up the great vids.

Nice Video, loved the action and narrative. But： Even Edward III managed 30,000 at one point in France, so there is no reason to doubt ancient historians because modern historians can't work out how armies worked their logistics more than 20 centuries ago. Agrarian societies rely on huge populations to support their economy, ancient China and ancient Rome all had records of having armies of more than 100,000 men. If they have enough food and enough animals to move them, and animal-feed to keep the animals alive, they would be able to move the army for a limited period of time. If Alexander managed to bring 60,000 Greeks all the way into Persia, the Persians in their own land, would have no problem fielding 2 or three times that number. Secondly, Alexander's losses were much lighter than in the vid you made. Most of the losses in these ancient battles occur to the losing side during flight. Because they were organised in deep ranks (up to 10 ranks or more in some cases), only the first few ranks are under pressure, 10%-15% at any one time, so if the front crumbles, the rest of the formation breaks up and flee, that's when they take the most of their losses. I recall that Alexander's losses were in the area of a few thousand by most historical estimates. And that is crucial because it was why he was able to fight so many battles, because his losses remained very small and his army was essentially intact after each big battle.

You guys should try out playing the Commander game type. Basically each player commands a single unit, with one player being your "general". I tried it a few days ago and had a ton of fun, and I think it might make a cool video to make.

Great video representation and history surrounding the battle! :D

Great to see that you managed to get Guagamela! I love seeing these historical battles. Great commentary btw, I've always been a decent player but I've learned a lot from watching you and hearing your advice.

For people wondering why he isnt lagging, look... he is playing in slow motion. It dosn't really matter what specs you have it'll lag. Well, its not even lag. The game slows down the units so it can calculate everything that is happening, otherwise I believe it would crash and cause the camera to actually lag instead. It's really not that bad.

Massive battles like this is what Total War is made for, cant' wait when you show a massive 4v4 oakley!

Great videos. Really enjoyed watching. Thank you.

great vid. Do you have plans to do more historical battles?

this is the best one that you have made :D keep up the good work

how do you keep making such interesting commentaries to all these videos? Full of History tidbits. Just awesome.

Portrays what happened much better than some of the shit you'll find on the history channel etc

Very good video , I love your explaining of the tactics and the historical aspects It's great to watch these rome2 videos as I can not play it myself :/ Please keep it up !

i got really stoned and i found this guy and i love it man.

Bro glad i subscribed to your channel a few months ago. Your battles large 3v3's or 1v1's are epic and awesome. Dont worry about talking too much, personally i like that part about you channel coz you provide us with interesting historical information. Keep up those awesome battles. Btw i suggest you and your friends try out DEI (Divide et Impera Mod for an even better Rome 2 experience)

17:10 LOL that was toooooooooooooooo funny

Love your massive battles more please

GREAT vid man, as a total war player i know that recreating a battle like this is hard, and i just wanna say u did a great job. It was however a shame that you concentrated on his right flanking move, which i admit gave him the opening to push the attack, instead of Parmenion's 'left echelon' defense which is what i personally believe won him the battle. But the above is more personal opinion the true criticism, again great vid man do more please.

dude that was sick 16:49-17:40 was my favorite part of the battle

Historically, the center phalanx never broke...

wow ! O_O I'm blown away ! Great work !

I really liked this video when you like talking about the things that happend in the real battle. Maybe you han try make the battle off pharsalos, I would love to see that.

I don't think many people were willing to literally walk to their death into a massive amount of skirmishers.

Btw, a good mod to use if you want to have more wide variety of troops and historically accurate is Divide et Impera. Unit sizes are also enormous by default.

hey oakley, alexander's pikemen were always deployed in literal blocks of 16x16 men giving it 256 troops. so it would've been 16 men deep. nice battle!

is this the same battle that is at the beginning of the movie "Alexander"

I just learned about this in school

Battle of platea (a.k.a the point where the normal 300 ended) come on guys like this post 3 Greek states vs. parthia or maybe Egypt or pontus shity troops.

Has he done the battle of Thermopylae yet? If not I think it would be cool to see :)

that was amazing, you guys are dope

hellow , can u make a video with a multiplayer gameplay 3vs3 , for battle of raphia ( massive battle ).

I actually remember seeing a test where some sarissas actually HELPED some arrows to hit the units. While some arrows were deflected, other followed the sarissas and ended hitting the soldiers holding it.

Nice presentation of the battle but Alexander had much less losses. I understand that it is quite hard to make it properly historicaly accurate but Alexander's losses were like 1500 cca out of 40 000 troops.

This 20% of the real Gaugamela war..

Love these battles ! thanks . ps - too much movement and it's hard on the eyes. I decide on what to watch ultimately based on how easy it is to watch. Probably about 1/2 of the amount of moves would be more enjoyable for the viewer to "take in the battle" as well. Also resolution is very pixelated when panning around quickly. Still great job thanks !

Really is a great battle, tks for the comments also of course.

It'd be pretty awesome to do a 3v3 where one of you is Parthia/Scythia/Armenia and just has an all cav army while the other two are infantry centric like Rome or Macedon

Nice vid, as usual. Could you tell me what unit size/details are you playing these massive battles on and what is ur pc spec?

Great narration

Is it possible for you to do the same battle but this time with the right proportion between the armies 1 greec To 6 persians

please apology my English, I use a translator Which button do you use to the "Interface" in the battle completely hide As in the video at 8:03 Thank you

theres a great Alexander the Great mod for Rome 2 that adds units of that for the Greek states, Persia, and others

I would really like to see you guys do the fight from 300.

That was pretty badass, good job. Hope to see some more, maybe Asculum or Marathon?

I like you talking reminds me of history channel.

Actually the persians had around 200-250 thousand soldiers, but Alexander just 50-60 thousand soldiers.

Did THFE ever make another Gaugamela reenactment?

17:11 that horse die skating, so cool

are you going to record a new campaign? I really enjoyed your Partia campaign

This would have (and still could) been an amazing Sub-Commanders

Did you do any research on the actual battle before you “tried” to recreate it??? Because it doesn’t seem you did. Don’t get me wrong. This is an awesome video, but....

how many troops there are in the field ? From Macedonia and Persia ?

great battle, i love the historical accuracy

it was a mouse trap thats what they called it and it was just a little gap and then they hit them from the front and the two sides

awesome battle though fun to watch

can i know what mod did you use?

I thought the persians had elephants, also the chariots would be in the center against the pikes, the heavy cav for the persians would be deployed against the Companion cav

Philip II created the 12ft Macedonian pike versus the tradition Hellenic length which was 7-9ft. Reason for there phalanx success.

you can try a no narrative video right?

That eagle tho 13:14

Is there a way you can do the Teutoburg Forrest battle or the other historic battle?

It would be great to use battles such as this which are quite well documented to test realism of the combat model. Here it seems that there are too many losses, and to high morale ( e.g. phalanx is completely anihilated by jevelin voley but still charging ... ridiculous )

This would be epic.

70k? No it was 100k-250k, considering for starters 1. It was in the heart of the Persian Empire it was alot easier to levy troops within the empire compared to an expeditionary invasion. according to scholars the population for the Persian empire was 17-34 million. They could of easily amassed 250,000 troops. 2. Scythe chariots were not on the left side they were front and center. 3. Javelin were also within the phalanx units themselves and intermixed with heavy cavalry.

Are you by yourself or with people?

Dude what are your PC specs?

what mods do you have on?

love the history

I really love the rts part of total war but for some reason the campaign bugs me

witch butten do you need to pres to activate vinematic mode ? :)

Awesome, have a sub.

what PC do you have?

could you post the file?

Please do one about the Battle of Vosges ( Caesar vs Ariovistus) :)

loved it

awesome amazing job bud........we are not worthy ;)

Today I fought a battle with bear the feder. He played with you today. He was a nice guy the battle was 2v2 my ally left so I out numbered and killed.

Thermopylae,marathon or platea???

Battle of Pydna! Or Cynosephalae, one of the two :D

Not the most reliable video at least historically.You know Macedonia was a Greek tribe, there wasnt only Macedonians fighting there but from many other Greek states

This guy talks like a 33 rpm record on 78.

U should do a giant archer battle

highly question his battle strategy LOL Alexander would not do what you did!

The main battle would have taken place in the center because that's where they pushed the hardest. They being the Macedonians

Do another documentary prefably carhae

screen shot from 010 plz bro

Macedon: 7810 vs Parthia and Pontus: 9780. Losses, Macedon: 4764/7810 Parthia and Pontus: 7538/9780. This was a Pyrrhic victory for you my friend.

Dat perfect 24000 subs

woah :D awesome dude