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A senior Vatican priest, Krzysztof Charamsa, stripped of his post after admitting being in a gay relationship, tells BBC News why he wrote to the Pope criticising the Church over its hypocrisy in banning gay priests.
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@connord9164
@connord9164 9 лет назад
I'm an atheist. However, why is it that Islam is never called out for being homophobic?
@Darth3492
@Darth3492 9 лет назад
+Connor D because you are then called an islamophobe
@fj19981
@fj19981 9 лет назад
+Connor D because Islam is against homosexuality.
@Darth3492
@Darth3492 9 лет назад
***** well of course there are islamophobes. But criticizing bad ideas and illogical and unrational writings is NOT islamophobia.
@Darth3492
@Darth3492 9 лет назад
***** yeah pretty much. But what do you expect of ideas conceived in the desert by tribes? the problem with islamophobia is the generalization of whole groups of people and racism that is often going hand in hand with the phobia
@LittleLion93
@LittleLion93 9 лет назад
+Connor D I think is becouse in the west homosexual are discriminated by cristians, not muslims (not becouse muslism don't do it but becouse they are less muslims than christians in the west). Sorry for me English.
@myguitardidyermom212
@myguitardidyermom212 4 года назад
whether the Church is homophobic or not (and, unfortunately, it often is) is irrelevant here. Priests are forbidden from being in romantic or sexual relationships of any kind. they're called to celibacy
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
The Church does its best to force gays to be celibate whether of not they are priests and whether or not they are Catholic. It then demands that they be subject to discrimination whether or not they are chaste. The Church is shit and should have no excuses made for it.
@Grokford
@Grokford Год назад
well "Called" "Obligated" ehh
@finegirl-ko9cx
@finegirl-ko9cx Год назад
​@@Grokford it's a choice, not forced to join priest
@Grokford
@Grokford Год назад
@@finegirl-ko9cx but if you are a priest you can’t make your own decision, it is decided for you even though this has no bearing on your ability to function in the role.
@finegirl-ko9cx
@finegirl-ko9cx Год назад
@@Grokford it's a lifestyle, not how u perform, that's why very old people are still priest ..it's in the bible littlerally , should we now chose what and what not to Believe?...the word of the Lord don't change ...
@ThebigGisthebest
@ThebigGisthebest 6 лет назад
Just wow - the hypocrisy is on his side. Celibacy not broken by gay relations? Wow
@newstart1983
@newstart1983 6 лет назад
He said celibacy is about to not get married, not have sex with women and not having children, it is not the case with homosexuality, this is damn ironic 🤣🤣🤣
@Italtopcop
@Italtopcop 5 лет назад
Celibacy is a law of the church, not of Christ. For anyone to break their vow of celibacy is a violation of church law, not God's law.
@Italtopcop
@Italtopcop 5 лет назад
@Paul Newfield -Pasadena, Ca. USA Paul you are losing your marbles. Please get down on your hands and knees and pick them up before you lose them altogether. No one can take a person seriously that has a false book memorized and uses it to try and prove lies. Goodbye Paul. I am done with you. Good luck with that insane God of yours. Try and find the God of the real Bible. You know the one. The one who loves everyone and wants only the best for us all.
@Italtopcop
@Italtopcop 5 лет назад
@@deusimperator You are diluted. Jesus did not address issues of sexual matters. In fact it was unimportant to him. He purposely excluded it from his list of things not to do that would keep a man from Eternal life. Study the Justices and the Jobs and get back to me. Then and only then when you can say you understand them can I have an intelligent conversation with you. Otherwise just continue to drink the kool aid and believe as you like. It really doesn't matter to me. I would like to see you have understanding but I can't force you to do it. You have no proof of anything. I do.
@deusimperator
@deusimperator 5 лет назад
@@Italtopcop diluted??? _Study the Justices and the Jobs and get back to me_ ??? LOL hmmm I have a JD (LLB) but you seem to be a very unintelligent person, incapable of having an intelligent conversation. Perhaps you can read the mishnah and midrash and then tell what the context is. You appear to be drinking the Kool Aid that society feeds you, The only "proofs" you can offer is argumentum ex ano and assertions without proof. Go get a degrees in mathematics, physics, law, philosophy and political science and then we can have an intelligent conversation.
@FirstLast-ow1pt
@FirstLast-ow1pt 7 лет назад
"The Catholic Church are acting Catholic!" Gasp, why not join another sect of Christianity if you do not believe the one you are serving?
@user-fu7zf4ck9z
@user-fu7zf4ck9z 5 лет назад
@@TheByzantineEmperor shut the fuck up you ignorant catholic-hating idiot
@skarbythehillside5517
@skarbythehillside5517 5 лет назад
paul gogos Those homopredator priests that were weaseled into the Church by communists and freemasons? Read Infiltration
@ozharmounian8497
@ozharmounian8497 5 лет назад
@@user-fu7zf4ck9z Shut the fuck up you ignorant gay-hating idiot
@OnBeeno
@OnBeeno 4 года назад
Oz Harmounian when did he say he hates gay dumbass
@JaredStJean
@JaredStJean 4 года назад
Because he believes Roman Catholicism is the truth
@Elzenberg
@Elzenberg 6 лет назад
This priest needs to rethink his life. Why join the priesthood if you don't want to abide the rules?
@yeoj1925
@yeoj1925 5 лет назад
for financial gain, no auditing & tax they control their church money collection
@wayneelliott1180
@wayneelliott1180 5 лет назад
Why join a gang that hates you?
@FJDP924
@FJDP924 5 лет назад
Elzenberg Wouldn't that be true of gay and straight priests? If they don't want to abide by the rules leave.....or better yet don't become a priest at all. Go to one of the more accepting and believable faiths that allow priests to marry and have relationships. This Catholic thing is a dying organization. Sad, but true.
@FJDP924
@FJDP924 5 лет назад
@@Kitiwake Again Pat there is no defect. The very assertion that there is shows how ignorant people today can still be. It is who a person is. Who they were born to be. If you believe it is a choice it is only because you have considered it for yourself and perhaps rejected acting on it. Most intelligent people secure in who they are do not think of it as a choice at all for they know they could never make that decision. The world is a far better place because of diversity. Wouldn't it be awful if we were all exactly like you?
@wayneelliott1180
@wayneelliott1180 5 лет назад
@@Kitiwake - I'm sorry what were you responding to? The fact that your gang hates?
@albcev1511
@albcev1511 5 лет назад
He broke a vow of CELIBACY. It applies regardless of sexual orientation
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
He should have apostatized first. The Catholic Church has a centuries old of murderous hatred of gays. It needs to apologized for torture, murder, scapegoating, and the perversion of its theology to persecute gays.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
The Church does its best to force gays to be celibate whether of not they are priests and whether or not they are Catholic. It then demands that they be subject to discrimination whether or not they are chaste. The Church is shit.
@kellybrown685
@kellybrown685 2 года назад
Please crawl back under your rock. This is 2022
@Grokford
@Grokford 2 года назад
Oh so you think that homosexual and heterosexual relationships are equivalent, interesting.
@StraitCleaning
@StraitCleaning Год назад
@@Grokford only insofar as they participate in interpersonal sexual relations
@GrumpyOldMan9
@GrumpyOldMan9 8 лет назад
The problem is not that he is gay, but that he broke the celibacy vow!
@yangsta9
@yangsta9 8 лет назад
exactly i hate it how they are saying its about discrimination of him being gay but the fact is if you takes your vows in church you are not even supposed to be with a women so even if this guy is gay or straight he is not to have any relationship with anyone if he has taken the vow to serve god in the Catholic way
@jeannekoss5775
@jeannekoss5775 7 лет назад
GrumpyOldMan I
@gaiopescatore
@gaiopescatore 6 лет назад
John Johnson Being heterosexual is major problem. Just like being an alcoholic. See? We can all write trash.
@gaiopescatore
@gaiopescatore 6 лет назад
pink roses Well, it would be if it said that being homosexual was like being an alcoholic. But of course no biblical writer says such ridiculous trash.
@raliixaviero4674
@raliixaviero4674 6 лет назад
William Fisher stop trying to contradict on a valid statement when you didn’t even do any research on it... smh
@alistergoh9744
@alistergoh9744 4 года назад
pucci what have you done? First with dio now you're targeting other priests?
@Astonnn.
@Astonnn. 4 года назад
MEIBO IN HEBUN
@SilverStrumer
@SilverStrumer 9 лет назад
Its not that you're gay. Its because you choose to continue having a relationship with someone despite the fact that Priests are expected to remain celibate for the rest of their lives. Don't use the 'homophobic/LGBT' as an excuse to get sympathy. You were caught dating someone. You should've just converted to Mormon or Angelican so that you can get married.
@kynanfitzpatrick1671
@kynanfitzpatrick1671 3 года назад
If he had converted he would have committed the sin of apostasy.
@irenemccann7032
@irenemccann7032 2 года назад
Plus he would convert away from the one true apostolic church which Jesus left to his disciples.
@mercy1459
@mercy1459 2 года назад
@@kynanfitzpatrick1671 nas que eso herejía total y no solo eso pecado mortal.
@ms.chocolatecandy
@ms.chocolatecandy Год назад
Catholicism is false anyway. They include idol worship by using images and praying to saints. If imperfect humans could intercede on our behalf, then there was no need for Jesus to die for us, as the Bible clearly states that only Jesus intercedes on our behalf (Romans 8:34 and Hebrews 7:25).
@nicolejessop2658
@nicolejessop2658 2 месяца назад
@@ms.chocolatecandy clearly your not catholic. Catholics worship god not idols, this would be idolatry.
@justinpyle3415
@justinpyle3415 6 лет назад
"A man shalll not lay with another man as though he were a woman, for this is an abomination in the eyes of Yah."
@heckingjesus8927
@heckingjesus8927 6 лет назад
Did you hear that it was the sound of my eye rolling super hard
@josephconder9074
@josephconder9074 6 лет назад
LLama Lady: And we should care why?
@skylandersgiants5504
@skylandersgiants5504 6 лет назад
Justin Pyle that’s actually a mistranslation, The original verse was “a man shall not lay with a boy”, even if it wasn’t a mistranslation Christians aren’t supposed to follow Leviticus anyway since it’s a part of the old covenant not the new covenant, following the old covenant means you don’t believe Jesus was the messiah making you not Christian.
@yahulwagoni4571
@yahulwagoni4571 6 лет назад
But what about picking up sticks on the Sabbath?
@Kellyfields624
@Kellyfields624 6 лет назад
Funny you say that, considering that that’s from the book of Leviticus and many of those rules have been disregarded, such as foods that are “unclean” and the disabled not being able to go to the altar
@voltfields3900
@voltfields3900 6 лет назад
If you have an interior struggles, why ask for ordination. Remember that before you consider the discipline of celibacy, you must first understand the virtue of chastity.
@mariamalhotra8228
@mariamalhotra8228 6 лет назад
Well said
@Italtopcop
@Italtopcop 5 лет назад
Norlito Concepcion Because the church and the misguided faithful (Society as a whole) teach these people that who they are is wrong. It teaches them that to exist in a world of hate many must hide. Some choose to lead a life, marry and pretend to be straight. Many enter the Seminary and become priests. It must be horrible having to lie to yourself and others about who you are. If being born with black hair was considered a sin, people would shave their head bald or dye it blond. Unfortunately sooner or later their true being will appear. The color of our hair like our sexuality is who we were born to be. Stupid people just don't get that.
@queenievenus
@queenievenus 5 лет назад
It was a way for homosexual persons to pursue a life as a Roman Catholic, now that homosexuality has become more acceptable there are less vocations to the Roman Catholic priesthood. Presumably many young men entering the Roman Catholic seminaries did not know that the Roman Catholic were a hot bed for homosexual predation as has been exemplified perfectly by the predation of seminarians by at least two Roman Catholic Cardinals US Theodore "call me Uncle Ted" McCarrick and Scotland Keith O'Brien
@FJDP924
@FJDP924 5 лет назад
@@queenievenus The Catholic church is a "dead zone" unless it realizes that the only constant in life is change. If it doesn't change it will die.
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
If you dismiss all the priests with interior struggles you get robots.
@sez7612
@sez7612 4 года назад
Pucci wow
@whothehellareyoumane
@whothehellareyoumane 4 года назад
At least he didn't have vampire boyfriend 😂
@Michi-el-gato
@Michi-el-gato 4 года назад
what do you mean by pucci?
@jager1129
@jager1129 4 года назад
@@Michi-el-gato its a jojo reference
@mef423
@mef423 4 года назад
MADE IN HEAVEN
@Astonnn.
@Astonnn. 4 года назад
Pucci had to get more souls.
@Garbanzo884
@Garbanzo884 6 лет назад
The bishop who ordained this guy should be punished. For centuries the Catholic and Orthodox Churches banned homosexuals from being ordained.....now that this rule has been flaunted.....destruction follows.
@conniepappalardo3166
@conniepappalardo3166 6 лет назад
RIGHT ,AND THIS IS ONLY THE BIGINNING!!!!!
@kyler9264
@kyler9264 6 лет назад
@@conniepappalardo3166 Learn to spell before you judge others
@queenievenus
@queenievenus 5 лет назад
The Bishop who ordained this PRIEST Iis as likely to be a Roman Catholic sexually active Bishop either homosexually or heterosexually. did you not know that?.
@ethanjohn76
@ethanjohn76 5 лет назад
Another reason to hate the Vatican II sect
@arokkiyavinnarasi3210
@arokkiyavinnarasi3210 5 лет назад
if hetersexual beings are ordained or consecrated why not homosexual brother.. !
@jackwebb5917
@jackwebb5917 6 лет назад
“I have not broken celibacy the great part of my life”.... like being “sort of pregnant “ 😂😂
@ezrhino100
@ezrhino100 5 лет назад
what about the lesser part? Whose ass did this guy plug?
@thedrinkinggamemaker9749
@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 3 года назад
So he's never fucked in the ass?
@tfh5575
@tfh5575 Год назад
no that’s like being a “sinner” which everyone is. and having consensual sex with another person is harmless compared to other sins.
@mothermovementa
@mothermovementa Год назад
😂
@riverdonoghue9992
@riverdonoghue9992 2 года назад
I've not broken the vow of celibacy "most" of my life. Says it all really. You know the rules. You know the church teaching. If you can't follow it don't be a priest.
@Reaganpopperno1
@Reaganpopperno1 2 года назад
Have you had premarital sex? If so you are a hypocrite.
@annabanana2623
@annabanana2623 2 года назад
Celibacy is a discipline not dogma. Many church fathers were married with children.
@Reaganpopperno1
@Reaganpopperno1 2 года назад
@@annabanana2623 keep making excuses for your garbage religion.
@100megatonYT
@100megatonYT Год назад
@@annabanana2623 but that discipline is an established rule
@annabanana2623
@annabanana2623 Год назад
@@100megatonYT It's a hot topic for clergy today. Giving clergy the option to marry before taking the vows would reduce pedophilia in my opinion.
@HAHA-rm3ii
@HAHA-rm3ii 7 лет назад
You can't always get what you want. If you can't remain celibate, you don't get to try and change doctrine. God doesn't change. People do. "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil , AMEN
@conniepappalardo3166
@conniepappalardo3166 6 лет назад
AMEN AMEN AMEN
@Italtopcop
@Italtopcop 5 лет назад
Notnow 212 People are mortal. Their job is to learn to love and not judge. Their job is to spread God's love to all. Condemning someone because they sleep with someone is so far from what Jesus had in mind it is almost a joke. The only reference Jesus ever made to sexual behavior was adultery and that is because it is breaking the vows one makes before God. This is all so silly. Grown men and women arguing over who someone else sleeps with.
@roseacker8956
@roseacker8956 5 лет назад
@@Italtopcop This!!^^^^^^^^^
@Italtopcop
@Italtopcop 5 лет назад
@@roseacker8956 Sorry Rose. Not sure what you meant by this.
@ArizonaWillful
@ArizonaWillful 5 лет назад
Actually, nowhere in the Bible does it say Priests should be celibate. All the Jewish priests were married and of the Levi Tribe. This is just a silly rule the early Church created. Also, Bible scholars (which sure aren't commenting here) have shown that the anti-gay remarks in the Bible were all directed at temple prostitution, where you could go to a temple and pay to have sex with a male, if you were a male. This allowed you to achieve some sort of bizarre oneness with the pagan god, since they also believed that the Priest became the god in the ritual just like the Eucharist Priest becomes Jesus. There was no such thing as a gay sexual orientation then in the Biblical mind. They could not conceive of it. They were talking about men who have sex with men in the temple of BAAL. This was the only acknowledged homosexuality that existed then in the Biblical mind. So now you are applying it 21 centuries later to 2 men who deeply love each other? Ludicrous. The Vatican will change since their doctrine is based on interpretation of Scripture that totally ignores Bible scholarship in universities today.
@BenVanAmburg
@BenVanAmburg 4 года назад
His hands talk more than his mouth. Hes more Italian than I thought possible
@alicialay166
@alicialay166 4 года назад
Gay + italian = super hands
@sebijebi
@sebijebi 4 года назад
@@alicialay166 hes polish
@TechAnnie773
@TechAnnie773 3 года назад
This man speaks several languages fluently!
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
He's Polish.
@hopeneverdies1
@hopeneverdies1 5 лет назад
Why is this man a priest in the first place?
@AL-ns1jm
@AL-ns1jm 4 года назад
why are you human in the first place?
@AL-ns1jm
@AL-ns1jm 4 года назад
@Benazir Fernandes that's none of your business. Mind your own !
@AL-ns1jm
@AL-ns1jm 4 года назад
@Benazir Fernandes That's Non of your business. Mind your own.
@miriamdiedrich7524
@miriamdiedrich7524 6 лет назад
Great solution for gay priests suppressing their orientation: Don't ordain gay men. Don't lie about your sexuality if you want to be a priest - if it's not meant to be it's not meant to be. Gay men are still living, breathing parts of the Church, it is no less so just because gay men can't be priests. Orthodoxy isn't there to bully or unjustly exclude people, it's there to keep the Church holy, and orthodoxy should be close to the heart of every Catholic Christian. My man, you can still teach the Faith and be a shoulder to cry on in your parish, without being a priest. Just be social.
@Richard-vq7ud
@Richard-vq7ud 5 лет назад
Miriam Diedrich i thought i had a call to be a priest, but i couldnt get a grip on my homosexuality so i did not even try.
@jessiegonzalez5906
@jessiegonzalez5906 4 года назад
God does not honor homosexuality
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
Great solution. Stop calling the Catholic Church "Catholic". It's not universal. It's a lie. The Catholic church has murdered gays for centuries. It persecutes even abstinent gays. It is shit.
@pipsasqeak820
@pipsasqeak820 5 лет назад
pretty sure you were kicked out because you broke your vow of celibacy/chasity
@hansolafsen77
@hansolafsen77 5 лет назад
No, that he made it public. Breaking the vow is a sin, though a heavy one, like others and no reason for getting kicked out. There are many priests with illegal children and their bishops know but they are dismissed as soon as they legally accept fatherhood. As long as they pay for the children - I hope bishops encourage and supervise that - they can stay priests
@GrumpyOldMan9
@GrumpyOldMan9 9 лет назад
The Vatican IS NOT homophobic, it does not have problems with priests being homosexual. It DOES have a problem with priests who do not respect the celibacy vow, which means NO SEX. This guy had a sexual relation (hetero, gay, doesn't matter), and that's why the Vatican dismissed him. In fact, Charamsa naively reasoned like a 19th century cleric, when sex was indeed defined (by society and the Vatican) as something that exclusively occurred between a man and a woman, leaving practicing homosexual (and even practicing pedophile) priests with a clear conscience. But times have changed, even in the Vatican ...
@cmac8565
@cmac8565 9 лет назад
+TavernSenses I agree 100%. This has now been high jacked by gay hating narrow minded bigots. Point well made.
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 8 лет назад
The Vatican IS homophobic. Putting lipstick on the pig won't change that fact. Ordering people to surpress their natural sex drive is highly unnatural by the way.
@GrumpyOldMan9
@GrumpyOldMan9 8 лет назад
Gaia Seraphina "Lipstick on the pig", I like that
@conniepappalardo3166
@conniepappalardo3166 6 лет назад
WHY WAS SODOM AND GOMORRA DESTROYED?
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
Benedict XVI has said that the chastity of a gay man doesn't satisfy the celibacy requirement. Charasma has taken this argument and following it to the natural, absurd conclusion. The Vatican and the Church are murderously homophobic. Both have overseen the torture and murder of gay men for centuries.
@annec9376
@annec9376 8 лет назад
Um, the vow of chastity means no sex at all. Not with anyone and not with yourself. The problem is with celibacy, not gays.
@campbellbailey9614
@campbellbailey9614 8 лет назад
does the chasttity involve animals?
@annec9376
@annec9376 8 лет назад
campbell bailey lol
@campbellbailey9614
@campbellbailey9614 8 лет назад
it's not funny i love animals my cat sleeps with me
@annec9376
@annec9376 8 лет назад
campbell bailey Keep cracking me up and I'll reach through your computer and punch you.
@campbellbailey9614
@campbellbailey9614 8 лет назад
back up bitch coz you need to go toilet right now
@cjhunt9532
@cjhunt9532 Год назад
priests who abuse hundreds of children get their crimes covered up, but a priest that had one consensual, equitable, happy gay relationship gets punished. wtf is wrong with this Church
@Johanna040713
@Johanna040713 8 лет назад
I hope this poor man comes to Jesus, the truth. I say this out of love, as a Christian.
@bodybuilder718
@bodybuilder718 8 лет назад
Johanna040713 shut up
@ArizonaWillful
@ArizonaWillful 5 лет назад
Jesus never said a word about celibacy or homosexuality. NOT A SINGLE WORD.
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 7 лет назад
Pope Francis did not makeup the celibacy rule. Even if he wanted to change it... The Pope cannot change the Dogma of the Roman Catholic Church... I don't understand this man... who claims he is a priest ...that he doesn't know this dogma. He wants everything changed to what he wants. Very, very selfish man. it's all about him.
@calasalos
@calasalos 6 лет назад
OK, but celibacy is not a dogma, is a simple "discipline" of the Church, so it can be changed.. In this case the problem is that homosexual acts are wrong in themselves
@brattyyoung1917
@brattyyoung1917 6 лет назад
papetee Amen! LEV.18,CORINTHIANS 6,ROMANS1,GENESIS1
@muttsma
@muttsma 6 лет назад
papetee, I think the problem is the discipline of celibacy. It's un-biblical and abnormal. But, yes - the homosexual acts are sinful in themselves. Other mainstream churches (like Episcopalian & Presbyterian USA - and soon, perhaps, United Methodist) have decided that homosexuality is no longer sinful, and are paying the price of steadily diminished membership as a result.
@Oculoustuos
@Oculoustuos 6 лет назад
Fritula 6 celibacy is a rule of life. It is not doctrine or dogma. The Apostles had wives. St. Paul didn't. It has been a rule of life in the Roman rite since about 1100 AD. The Orthodox and Eastern Rite Catholic have celibacy for monks, nuns and bishops but priest can marry. The Pope could relax the discipline of celibacy.
@ArizonaWillful
@ArizonaWillful 5 лет назад
How is that "Do not eat meat on Friday" dogma doing? Many rules of the Church have nothing to do with Scripture and are merely traditional. If it was good enough for someone in the year 1100. it better be good for men in the 21st century. Nonsense. This rule could be changed. Oh, by the way. Whatever happened to all those babies in LIMBO.? Remember Limbo?
@davidfigueroa8188
@davidfigueroa8188 4 года назад
“I think I am a good priest!” No. You’re not.
@davidfigueroa8188
@davidfigueroa8188 4 года назад
VoyagerPlaysGaming He broke his vow of celibacy by engaging in a sexual relationship. Even worse, he tried to hide it. Not to mention that Church law is that homosexuals may not be ordained.
@davidfigueroa8188
@davidfigueroa8188 4 года назад
VoyagerPlaysGaming Are you a Christian?
@davidfigueroa8188
@davidfigueroa8188 4 года назад
VoyagerPlaysGaming Do you consider yourself a Christian?
@noob3604
@noob3604 4 года назад
David Figueroa being gay itself and having gay sex is the same thing please read the bible.
@noob3604
@noob3604 4 года назад
VoyagerPlaysGaming he is not a good priest because he loves his own sin but serves God at the same time priests are supposed to be free of sin and preach to others how to let go of it and live for God this man is homosexual right? Well read about sodom and gohmmora it was destroyed because of the homosexuality. And the evilness you cant love God and love your sin at the same time .
@lifecomment
@lifecomment 8 лет назад
Catholic here.. Bible does not say that priests cannot marry. It was a practice came about around the 4th century... (Canon 33 of the Council of Elvira) This man is trying to get the sympathy of people by emphasising that he is gay, so people might 'come to gather to protect him from the evil church'. However, he has broken the promise he made to God. This is the same promise you make to your wife. Priests commit to celibacy. This is the 'policy of the employer if you like'. It has nothing to do with being gay.... Thank you!
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
The Catholic church is murderously hateful of gay men. It tortured and murdered them for centuries. It has never apologized for that. This priest should have renounce the Church before he got a boyfriend, but he was right to renounce the church. He was right to refuse to serve entitled bigots like you.
@yahulwagoni4571
@yahulwagoni4571 6 лет назад
This man is a visible member of the Lavender Mafia.
@unstableinsomniac8015
@unstableinsomniac8015 4 года назад
Lavender what how old are you!!
@SimplyAWitch9
@SimplyAWitch9 8 лет назад
being gay should be fine but he did break a vow of celibacy which is why he was stripped of his post
@michaelpeters4718
@michaelpeters4718 8 лет назад
I agree x
@campbellbailey9614
@campbellbailey9614 8 лет назад
being gay and celibate seems to be ok being stripped in the middle of church because you are a hetero preist or a gay woman even bitter better butter baby
@heterosectional
@heterosectional 7 лет назад
A leopard can't change its spots. A whacko will seek other men and/or kids to get his rocks off.
@battleburger
@battleburger 6 лет назад
All Catholics are expected to abstain from sexual activity before marriage. Homosexuals dont get a pass. And neither do I til I'm married. How is this homophobic at all, seriously?
@ih8utbe
@ih8utbe 27 дней назад
The Catholic Church is changing and you cannot dictate what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms. It is not anyone's business to ask or know the details of one's sex or love life.
@battleburger
@battleburger 27 дней назад
@ih8utbe 6 years late and your still wrong, dumbass.
@kevindevlaeminck1784
@kevindevlaeminck1784 4 года назад
The Church doesn't conform with the "World" and us members shouldn't concern ourselves with what the sinners have to say about our beliefs or take offense to the childish name calling
@anthonygeorge4458
@anthonygeorge4458 3 года назад
Exactly people should change for God, not God for people
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
@@anthonygeorge4458 The Church isn't God.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
The Church doesn't conform? The Popes bent over and spread their cheeks for Hitler and Mussolini
@georgemichaels9511
@georgemichaels9511 2 года назад
You speak like a Pharisee. Woe. Woe. Woe.
@Mordo___
@Mordo___ Год назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@greglejacques1094nothing inherently wrong with “antisociality” Popular belief is irrelevant to what is morally correct. “Narcissism” actually no. That’s more of an isolationist perspective. He doesn’t claim to be better than the sinners, he simply stated we should not care about their business. “Gaslighting” not at all or even close, just simply means ignore the insults. Not really sure how you thought you would be able to provide an insightful view of the morality of the teachings when you have an upside down cross as your pfp. You could at least attempt to conceal your bias before engaging in a dishonest dialogue.
@evangeliste1000
@evangeliste1000 6 лет назад
what a disgusting and insane logic !!!! you can't justify your weakness by criticizing the divine law and the Church's teaching or tradition.
@CherriesDemure
@CherriesDemure 5 лет назад
Max he is a priest, not a bishop though.
@jimcook1747
@jimcook1747 5 лет назад
@Max Priests are 'married' to the Church, so to speak. The Church is feminine. Thus the term 'wife' refers to the Church.
@franco634
@franco634 4 года назад
@@jimcook1747 OH brother!
@AL-ns1jm
@AL-ns1jm 4 года назад
7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
@beckettjamescalvert5714
@beckettjamescalvert5714 8 лет назад
A priest can technically be "homosexual" as long as they are celibate and don't have those homosexual tendencies in the seminary.
@jjretro7652
@jjretro7652 8 лет назад
Truth
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 8 лет назад
In this case a priest won't be gay or straight. He would be practically asexual.
@campbellbailey9614
@campbellbailey9614 8 лет назад
it seems as though from a roman catholic point of view it is all about celibacy which means no sex because of some external factor impedes your desire. asexual means to me anyway that you just basically don't have desire. the fact is that most people have desire and find it hard to control especially in church on a sunday because religion is so sensuous and sexual
@Garbanzo884
@Garbanzo884 6 лет назад
Homosexuals, celibate or not, should never be ordained.
@Garbanzo884
@Garbanzo884 6 лет назад
Countless bishops in Church history, both Orthodox and Catholic, plus numerous Church Councils have decreed that even a man with homosexual tendencies is NOT to be ordained because said individuals cannot effectively be priests and some homosexuals are demonically possessed. The homosexual tendency itself is intrinsically disordered and therefore such a man afflicted with this is NOT to be ordained. This priest in the video should be defrocked for two reasons: 1. He is not to be a priest and 2. he is openly violating his vow of celibacy which is grounds for defrocking.
@tipofmytongue1024
@tipofmytongue1024 6 лет назад
As a gay man, the Catholic Church is NOT violently homophobic. This guy has no real presence of Christ's love. There isn't really a sense of that holiness and it's sad.
@aliu8914
@aliu8914 6 лет назад
tipofmytongue1024 yes, we don't consider him as a faithful priest anymore. Shame on him.
@AlexanderNovak0
@AlexanderNovak0 6 лет назад
tipofmytongue1024 what are you saying he's Right there are plenty gay ppl in church and church is terribly homofobic ....get real gay and Catholicsm doesn't go together
@Pwelawrence
@Pwelawrence 6 лет назад
tipofmytongue1024 your very deluded
@lj4826
@lj4826 6 лет назад
according to the bible, you're not allowed to fuck guys.
@Who63
@Who63 6 лет назад
tipofmytongue.....right on.
@deanphilipsaunders775
@deanphilipsaunders775 6 лет назад
It is people like this person, who has helped create the distortion of the Church today......unbelievable
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
No. The church is pure hypocritical and they thrive on distortion.
@CherriesDemure
@CherriesDemure 5 лет назад
Nothing wrong with LGBT+, as a catholic, I support. It’s that fact that he broke the celibacy law and tried to blame it on discrimination of him being gay.
@RightAsRainCreations
@RightAsRainCreations 4 года назад
totally not because the bible is an outdated, morally fucked 2000 year old piece of leather and cloth.
@xander4043
@xander4043 4 года назад
UnCocolita : I too am Catholic, and I love my gay sisters and brothers, but marriage wasn’t made to be between two men or two women.
@xander4043
@xander4043 4 года назад
Speyer Family If not from God, where do you get your morals?
@marcelah3016
@marcelah3016 6 лет назад
My perspective on this is that this man has consciously said that he's homosexual. So well you cannot serve two Gods.
@ArizonaWillful
@ArizonaWillful 5 лет назад
Do you serve heterosexuality? How does someone serve homosexuality? That is like saying "I serve the color blue".
@FJDP924
@FJDP924 5 лет назад
and from my perspective people who know nothing about sexuality and it's cause should not voice an opinion. Yours is clearly not founded in truth or knowledge.
@andrewortiz9226
@andrewortiz9226 5 лет назад
@@FJDP924 the new testament says to not practice homosexuality, read Romans 2,
@FJDP924
@FJDP924 5 лет назад
@@andrewortiz9226 Paul never said the things quoted in Romans 2 because he knew that Jesus would not have included sexual sin as a sin that would prevent man from entering the kingdom of heaven. It was not part of the Justices and therefore not part of the commandments. You people really don't know the origin of your bible at all do you? The crap you quote was all added long after Paul wrote his letters. True Paul himself did not approve of homosexuality but he knew that Jesus made no mention of it and neither did he. It was all conveniently added in translation. Do some study on the subject before you make yourself look like a fool again.
@andrewortiz9226
@andrewortiz9226 5 лет назад
@@FJDP924 obviously you don't believe Jesus is Lord, your making your own religion and taking out the verses u don't like and keeping and twisting scripture to support your views!! Don't call yourself a Catholic or Christian, cause your not!!
@darrenpeternazarene5968
@darrenpeternazarene5968 6 лет назад
I cannot tell whether the church is the bad guy or this guy cus as a matter in fact he took the vow to celibacy and broke it
@lorenzomanzoni9693
@lorenzomanzoni9693 5 лет назад
@Mercury Vapor Light A bishop is married with God
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
fuck off
@CherriesDemure
@CherriesDemure 5 лет назад
Church did nothing, never did. It was always the small group of terrible people and the few superiors that gave the RC church a bad reputation.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
@@CherriesDemure The Church was always a murderous institution. The Doctors of the Church demanded that gays be murdered and called them worse than murderers. The Church is evil.
@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959
@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959 2 года назад
@@CherriesDemure Quartodecimans Polycarp Bishop of Symerna 14th Avib-Nissan
@billdarby4949
@billdarby4949 6 лет назад
Oh Dear Lord. - Please Pray for this Priest!
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
Dear Lord please pray for this sick evil person.
@aleksaorange9052
@aleksaorange9052 4 года назад
This priest done nothing wrong .gays are people too and they can go to heaven the same way straight people can
@TriciaRP
@TriciaRP 2 года назад
@@aleksaorange9052 NOT JESUS HEAVEN
@WigThatFlewOffFloptok
@WigThatFlewOffFloptok Год назад
@@dibble2005 Shut the hell up. God loves them no matter what. Every sin is sin with another. No sin is more bad than another sin. Things that are written by Paul isn’t the same as Jesus. Jesus never talked about homosexuality. Either spoke homosexuality as evil
@rosiegirl2485
@rosiegirl2485 3 года назад
Ask Bella Dodd how the Catholic Church ended up with so many gay priest! If you are a gay priest...you need to repent, and beg Jesus to forgive you! If your not willing to repent ..you need to leave the priesthood! It has nothing to do with being homophobic...it has to do with sin! The Catholic Church doesn't hate gay people! The church loves all people, and wants all people to come to Jesus, by following His Word! It's the sin that you hate...not the person! 💠
@emmet3541
@emmet3541 3 года назад
Why is it a sin to be gay and when did you last hear Jesus opinion?
@rosiegirl2485
@rosiegirl2485 3 года назад
@@emmet3541 When God created Adam and Eve...He told them to go forth and procreate...which is ordered...one man..one women, they make babies and that is Gods idea of a family...if you turn things around...it now becomes disordered. It isn't the way God intended for people to live.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
If you're a gay Catholic, priest or not, you need to apostatize. The Church is killing gay youth by driving them so suicide. ( www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/catholic-bishops-opposed-suicide-prevention-hotline-why) . If there is a just God, those bishops will go to Hell for not repenting.
@ralphmamea4362
@ralphmamea4362 6 лет назад
Don't bring your problems in the church your way not the church way you are playing with fire you can't worship God and satan same time
@Italtopcop
@Italtopcop 5 лет назад
Ralph Mamea Lord forgive Ralph for he knows not what he says.
@deusimperator
@deusimperator 5 лет назад
Exactly
@queenievenus
@queenievenus 5 лет назад
Like it or lump it it is the many Roman Catholic clerics ways, desire, and habit.
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
shut the fuck up
@letib96
@letib96 5 лет назад
Celibacy is a ridiculous rule in the first place and is part of the reason there are so many cases of sexual abuse in the church
@mercy1459
@mercy1459 2 года назад
En todas las religiones la verdad
@cool12344677
@cool12344677 8 лет назад
You are against God's rule and his commandmets
@halloweenchristmas2532
@halloweenchristmas2532 8 лет назад
No one cares.
@cool12344677
@cool12344677 8 лет назад
Shutup
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 8 лет назад
+ Oluwaseun Ditto.
@mollyhohenzollernstewart7444
@mollyhohenzollernstewart7444 8 лет назад
true
@campbellbailey9614
@campbellbailey9614 8 лет назад
so is your church and your heart and bowels
@michaelcontreras148
@michaelcontreras148 6 лет назад
What a sad man, he doesn’t grasp the beauty of the only Church founded by Christ. I will be praying for him
@queenievenus
@queenievenus 5 лет назад
I hope you are celibate.
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
The beauty of power domination and control you mean.
@harambey
@harambey 5 лет назад
Founded by Jesus? O stoppit lool Jesus preached to believe in one god, years and YEARS after his departure is when the corruption began Thats why our creator sent forth the last and final messenger, along with the last and final revelation It will be Preserved till the end of times ❤ Deny this, then you're denying god
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
There is no beauty in a Church that tells people they have to live alone and die alone.
@susankim9991
@susankim9991 5 лет назад
He is not a priest. Please go away. Be gay do whatever you want but don't make excuses and blame the church. Good heavens, he has no remorse for his sins. He's rather proud of it. Please God please restore goodness and righteousness.
@truthaboveagenda
@truthaboveagenda 5 лет назад
True.
@toka6054
@toka6054 9 месяцев назад
Man. If you are Gay. Just don't try to make it a normal thing in our Christian faith. We love you. We understand you. Jesus loves you. Nobody will condemn you. BUT!! If you are voming to us and try to force us to think that its okay to be gay then we dont want to hear that. If you aknowlege homosexuality as a sin and give your best to change your life then nobody will condemn you for that. We love everybody
@mjrooney710
@mjrooney710 9 лет назад
The interviewers face is priceless. Are you for real sunshine?
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
fuck off
@Artaxian_Debacle
@Artaxian_Debacle 4 года назад
She’s probably a Catholic
@ibadestinydkhar8805
@ibadestinydkhar8805 4 года назад
I see Lucifer in his face
@Artaxian_Debacle
@Artaxian_Debacle 4 года назад
This man is possessed he is an agent of the devil
@josepholeary3286
@josepholeary3286 4 года назад
@@Artaxian_Debacle Try this guy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oKuz-64QFDU.html
@joe9966
@joe9966 3 года назад
Tf is wrong with you?
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
I see your have shit for brains.
@pwat7254
@pwat7254 5 лет назад
He's a good man so you people need to stop bashing him
@powerloveflowerlightlove-dv4lu
Rubbish no 1 is good not 1
@eyelesslulu5439
@eyelesslulu5439 5 лет назад
Why the hell am I here?.. I'm an atheist..
@jhedgje7905
@jhedgje7905 6 лет назад
No! No need for homosexuality!!! THIS IS A DISGRACE!! NO PRIEST IS EVEN ALOUD ON SEXUALITY!!
@powerloveflowerlightlove-dv4lu
RU-vid homosexual roman catholic women exposed
@FBI-it1ct
@FBI-it1ct 4 года назад
The last time i met a gay priest, he reset the universe.
@strawberryalien
@strawberryalien 4 года назад
Pucci Gucci
@scapesdream513
@scapesdream513 4 года назад
oh y e s
@niakoch9390
@niakoch9390 4 года назад
Where did you meet him?
@obamaprism-bv9do
@obamaprism-bv9do 3 года назад
@@niakoch9390 probably in Florida
@Eliascmd
@Eliascmd 4 года назад
Whether gay or straight, taking a vow of celibacy and becoming a priest obliges you to be celibate. It’s giving up your carnal desires and devote yourself to serving God and his congregation. I refuse to take my communion from a married priest just as I refuse it from a sexually active gay priest. As Jesus said, you have one master to serve, and the moment you chose the path of becoming a priest, you should be higher than earthy needs. The vow of celibacy is sacred and it applies to all sexual relations regardless.
@proculusjulius7035
@proculusjulius7035 2 года назад
Except when it involves little boys then you're all hush hush and there's no accountability. Victims are treated as evil and the perpetrators are secreted away never to face justice. Really moral this faith of yours 😀
@mercy1459
@mercy1459 2 года назад
@@proculusjulius7035 eso se llama pecado y eso se paga con la cárcel. Más no todo el mundo sabe los que pasa en un cuarto. Es por ello que se denuncia. Y eso de violaciones pasa hasta en el judaísmo, islamismo, protestantismo s elo tiene más que callado ,aunque mo tan callado ya que denuncian pero no se hacen eco esas noticias ,solo busca .
@benstevinson764
@benstevinson764 2 года назад
He's Gay 🏳️‍🌈 he's Happy 😀 Lighthearted and Carefree it's Wrong for Anybody to Judge Him!
@zvne77
@zvne77 Год назад
It’s impossible for a priest to be gay get your terminology together
@nielspemberton59
@nielspemberton59 4 года назад
The Catholic Church should not be too eager to condemn gay and lesbian people when it has been fostering priests who have sexually abused parishioners and even in old days castrated choirboys to preserve their soprano voices.
@whatdabrutedoin3681
@whatdabrutedoin3681 4 года назад
Everybody gangsta till he can accelerate time.
@likestohunt758
@likestohunt758 7 лет назад
Ok. She asked the question of you making an oath and your response is, "well i was most of my life," you shouldn't be a priest!
@FJDP924
@FJDP924 5 лет назад
Not for you to decide.
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
Fuck off.
@e.jenima7263
@e.jenima7263 5 лет назад
Many if not all priest have broken there vows of celibacy and have been celibate most of there lives. Priests are human beings too so get off of your hie hors and save your rage and sanctimony for the ones who rape children ,female parishioners and Cloistered nuns.
@calasalos
@calasalos 7 лет назад
As many people do, he's trying desperately to dignify his personal drama.. I can understand that! What I don't like at all is that now he's trying to blame the Church for what has occurred to him. This is very very sad..
@johnfountain5770
@johnfountain5770 6 лет назад
The same old story, ( Throw the ball back in the other court! This guy is sick!
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
Fuck off.
@Xmarquise
@Xmarquise 5 лет назад
It is written that “homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of heaven” and that homosexuality “is an abomination.” Get right with Jesus.
@powerloveflowerlightlove-dv4lu
Agree ya right
@simongopaulchan861
@simongopaulchan861 6 лет назад
Our lady said this would happen. The holy church would be infiltrated by the devil. Pray and ask jesus for forgivness. God made man and gave him to much freedom to do what he wanted.
@heckingjesus8927
@heckingjesus8927 6 лет назад
All the homophobia in this comment section is making me laugh
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
Yes. The heterosexual laity are revolting.
@davidrivera3611
@davidrivera3611 6 лет назад
Somebody tell gay priests you can't have your cake and eat it too
@sen4562
@sen4562 4 года назад
And you can't serve two masters at once.
@dahalofreeek
@dahalofreeek 4 года назад
I'm bisexual and that's enough for me to never want to attend a Catholic Church again. It's so weird. Even if you like Jesus, you could pick a denomination that doesn't hate you.
@daltonmwadime8488
@daltonmwadime8488 6 лет назад
The rectum can never be an entarace regardless of whatever laws humans pass..so dont follow ur feelings but follow God's laws..
@notyou8285
@notyou8285 6 лет назад
Now I’m not a Christian or anything so I’m not sure but I heard homosexuality is no more of a sin than any other and if the person repents, they will be saved.
@PopeEdward
@PopeEdward 6 лет назад
Jesus came into the world to save it not condemn it, you are 100% correct
@ronnieburton4287
@ronnieburton4287 4 года назад
This is unacceptable , ban gay rights totally.
@abdulahmed456
@abdulahmed456 9 лет назад
doesn't it defeat the purpose of being a priest, because i thought becoming a priest meant you should be extremely religious, but then again idk I'm not catholic.
@aliu8914
@aliu8914 6 лет назад
Abdulrhman Ahmed he is no longer priest in Catholic Church. He has been sacked as a priest.
@aliu8914
@aliu8914 6 лет назад
@@kewlestkidintheaid4647 It is not a sin to be homosexual. Some people may have inclination towards their own sex. However, if they engage in any ACTIONS of homosexual is sin. In the bible homosexual ACTIONS are condemned in the both Old and New testaments. St Paul insists that those who take part in homosexual Actions "will not inherit the Kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9). As Christians, they may be well be inspired and encourage by Christ's command to "Take up your cross and follow Jesus". Their homosexual inclination is a heavy cross which Christ is asking them to bear throughout their whole life. Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. (Cathecism of Catholic Church 2359).
@PopeEdward
@PopeEdward 6 лет назад
I know some very religious gay people. We are all sinners. I'd rather be in the company of gay people who love God than straight people who don't. Just sayin.
@caleblagrange7164
@caleblagrange7164 5 лет назад
PopeEdward It's what you do, not who you're attracted to. I'm straight but abstinent for God, the same is best for same sex attracted people.
@florethasefod7936
@florethasefod7936 6 лет назад
He's lying. He should leave priestly life and go get married.
@e.jenima7263
@e.jenima7263 5 лет назад
That is what he did .
@AL-ns1jm
@AL-ns1jm 4 года назад
and you are? The sleeping beauty?
@johngreene8988
@johngreene8988 6 лет назад
you're not supposed be in a relationship in the first place *that's why he lost his job*
@robertpelland3428
@robertpelland3428 4 года назад
Agreed. I'm christian and I don't see anything wrong with homosexuality. But Celebacy is about being above your *sexual desires* gay or straight.
@martynicole3337
@martynicole3337 5 лет назад
The true church isn’t homophobic, people are
@josephlee4337
@josephlee4337 5 лет назад
Whether you like or not, the Vatican is and has always been a gay nest. According to the NYT the French author and journalist's book, In the closet of the Vatican, will be out in 5 days from today. According to the author, 80% of priests are gay. I think people had always known lots of priests are gay in the church but they just didn't talk about it like today.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 4 года назад
As a Catholic I feel so sorry for this guy. I’d cut off my pinkie to be a priest in the Vatican and this guy throws it all away. Sad beyond belief. Can’t even imagine the shame his family must feel.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 2 года назад
@@helloman1051 I’m 60 and a high school drop out The church requires a college degree to be a priest.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 2 года назад
@@helloman1051 he called not one but 2 different press conferences. Just leave You don’t need a press conference to quit your job
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
@@PInk77W1 I'm 60 and a gay cradle Catholic with a math Ph.D. I don't think you'd want to be in his shoes. Being taught to hate yourself from a pre-adolescence does force you to push yourself to prove something and to attain approval on some basis, is more costly than it's worth. As for the man's family, if they agree with the way that the Catholic church persecutes gay men including banning them from living in most of Poland, he should be ashamed of them. YMMV
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 2 года назад
@@purityballs7446 I read an article by a gay guy He said the whole world told him to do as he feels. The university The govt The media The gay activists The corporations So he did. And after ten years he was ready to commit suicide. Then he picked up a Catholic catechism and read it. It said no matter what or who u are, God demands u to be holy. Priest. Yes Lay person. Yes Gay. Yes Straight. Yes Homeless yes Millionaires. Yes. Movie stars. Yes. So he became Catholic and stopped his Former lifestyle. He was happy. EVERYONE of his gay friends abandoned him.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
@@PInk77W1 Would you please provide a link? BTW, I have been chaste since 1984 after an oath to God to avoid contracting or transmitting HIV (then called HTLVIII). Most of my friends are gay, but I do have straight friends who are married fathers. I respect their vocations with all my heart and soul. However, the Catholic Church drives gay people to suicide with filth like this: "So I say to you that these are even worse than murderers, and that it would be better to die than to live in such dishonor. A murderer only separates the soul from the body, whereas these destroy the soul inside the body..... There is nothing, absolutely nothing more mad or damaging than this perversity." (St. John Chrysostom, In Epistulam ad Romanos IV). I read that filth when I was 12. I was suicidally depressed for a decade because of that. I avoided making friends out of fear that I would somehow harm them. It took me most of a lifetime to overcome abuse by my Church and my devoutly Catholic father who sent me articles saying things like AIDS is nature's way of getting rid of mistakes. He got pleasure from the fact that gay men were dying of AIDS. I had already taken my oath by then so being gay meant studying epidemiology to help AIDS research and volunteering at an AIDS ward Cardinal Spellman Hospital in New York. But my father the good Catholic though of all this death as entertainment for him.
@truthseeker9975
@truthseeker9975 4 года назад
This man is miles away from the truth. He will find out one day that following his own way was not God's way. He refers to his 'spiritual boos' and points upwards (3.18). It's farcical, because clearly he is making himself his own spiritual boss, which means he is lost, UTTERLY LOST.
@MiKemIkE-he3fg
@MiKemIkE-he3fg 7 лет назад
He's a heretic
@SnoodleNoodles
@SnoodleNoodles 6 лет назад
MiKe mIkE congrats commoner you are thou first person since the 1500s to use that word. Hush along dirty peasant.
@caleblagrange7164
@caleblagrange7164 5 лет назад
Snoodle It's actually a descriptive term. And yes, by rejecting the catechism this priest has committed heresy.
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
fuck off
@SnoodleNoodles
@SnoodleNoodles 4 года назад
@Michael Kevin Millet Begone now. The word that left ye month was nothing more than fool.
@SnoodleNoodles
@SnoodleNoodles 4 года назад
@Michael Kevin Millet I wast only joking, in earnest i careth not about the useth of the w'rld h'retic
@marianapagan7067
@marianapagan7067 5 лет назад
If this was a heterosexual relationship he would have been treated the same way, which is he would have most likely been removed from priesthood.
@magnacarta740
@magnacarta740 6 лет назад
This priest truly doesn’t understand what adultery is according to the scriptures. He should be disrobed from his priesthood. Under Francis pontificate this is what we have... God save your Church from all evils
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
The expression is "de-frocked," but if you want to see him naked., who am I to judge?
@davidhill5684
@davidhill5684 5 лет назад
This confirms what I have often wondered, that actively gay priests give themselves a free pass in the matter of celibacy. As long as it doesn't involve women it doesn't count. Its a loophole if you need one ( pun not intended - honest ).
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
you are satanic
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
Sort the way Evangelical girls have convinced themselves that if they have anal sex they are still virgins. It's called the poophole loophole.
@userPs91victory
@userPs91victory 6 лет назад
A Priest with that!!! I rebuke you Satan!
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
you are satanic
@brucecolemancfo5087
@brucecolemancfo5087 7 лет назад
I am Catholic and gay and I have found people very accepting within the church.
@conniepappalardo3166
@conniepappalardo3166 6 лет назад
DO YOU THINK IT IS OK WITH GOD? I AM SORRY FOR HOMOSEXUALS ,BUT A SIN IS A SIN ,LETS NOT TURN THE TABLES AS WE WANT THEM
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 6 лет назад
We are all sinners
@MystoRobot
@MystoRobot 6 лет назад
Society may have changed... but God hasn't. Do not think for a second that homosexuality have been approved by the Church: Only by bad clergy members; no matter their rank. Catholics can love, help and care for homosexuals, but the Church should by NO MEAN encourage/tolerate homosexuality behaviours, period. Those who do are acting against God, and will have to answer for what they did. You, my friend, have a few options if you truly are Catholic: - Choose celibacy and fight temptation. - Realize that it is behavioural, take the time you need, and fix your perception. _(it truly is only sexual, giving the illusion of love. Trust me.)_ Prayer is also the best thing to do. _(rosary especially)_ God answers in time, when you submit to his care.
@philmurphy8443
@philmurphy8443 6 лет назад
True we are all sinners, but those who promote sin are destined to a greater punishment than the sinner!
@georgepenton6023
@georgepenton6023 6 лет назад
Repent of your sodomy or you will surely lose your soul.
@kgbrand3949
@kgbrand3949 3 года назад
Normally this doesn't surprise me as saint has already inform us that our Catholic church will be manipulated from the inside and the devil will do anything in its power to destroy it and we can only win is by praying
@allison6836
@allison6836 5 лет назад
You can't even get married if you're a priest....
@irenemccann7032
@irenemccann7032 2 года назад
Poor man, he needs prayers, he knows what he is,and also knows its wrong, so I think he’s blaming the Pope ,rather than admit it’s him whose in the wrong.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
He knows your religion is murderously hateful and evil.
@dan69052
@dan69052 2 года назад
knowledge based on facts will be much more helpful tha prayers If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of our species & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@Grokford
@Grokford 2 года назад
That's conspiracy theory logic Irene. The Catholic Church says a lot of things that never appear in scripture, this is just another.
@777Rowen
@777Rowen 5 лет назад
He shouldn’t be a priest. If the act of celibacy is difficult for him, on top of the fact he is discriminated against for being gay he should leave the church. Done.
@TheGatelyfan1
@TheGatelyfan1 2 года назад
Straight priests have a lot of sex, is that okay
@buenviajeph
@buenviajeph 4 года назад
cel·i·ba·cy /ˈseləbəsē/ noun the state of abstaining from marriage and sexual relations.
@elspethsilverstar6136
@elspethsilverstar6136 6 лет назад
This guy is not being completely honest. Celibacy is sex outside of marriage, but also includes masturbation and pornography viewing.
@connor6630
@connor6630 5 лет назад
This is truly ridiculous, this guy is going to have to meet God at the time of his death and argue that he wasn't sinning or committing herecy on a technicality. Good luck with that mate.
@benbernardgraham2286
@benbernardgraham2286 8 лет назад
the idea of a vow of no sex is ridiculous.
@heterosectional
@heterosectional 7 лет назад
It's reprickulous.
@eaumartineau7890
@eaumartineau7890 5 лет назад
Has he heard of celibacy? I'm straight and celibate. Mortal sin otherwise.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
You can marry. His Church insists that he and I live and die alone. Your faith is evil.
@soloharmonicsrobj8246
@soloharmonicsrobj8246 4 года назад
A difficult subject matter, yes. However, I'm reading most of these comments below. I don't understand why all of the "hateful" words towards this man. Who seems to be honest and up front about his true sexuality. As a Christian, Catholic or otherwise, no one including any Pope or religious hierarchy have the right to judge this man or anyone else. This man never even mentioned being involved in such a relationship with anyone during his service to the church. However these comments below cast many stones at this man. Especially, the one comment saying this man should basically burn for his "so called" sins. What makes these (commenting) individuals qualify for God's heavenly grace? How Hypocritical of those individuals who willingly violate the scripture themselves. Individual sexuality is not the underlying problem with any organized religion. The underlying true evil is hypocrisy and hierarchy corruption. Question, why are the Archangels mostly depicted in androgynous mortal form? Answer, all angels are depicted in the image of God, both masculine and feminine (unisex). Be silent and open your closed mind to those that are different.
@danietripv
@danietripv 2 года назад
First, DON'T NORMALIZE INNAPROPIATE THINGS. Second, is that what God wants? OF COURSE NOT. Third, We (of course including you) are in the image of God, IN THE IMAGE. SODOM GOMORAH IS AN EXAMPLE, learn from this
@soloharmonicsrobj8246
@soloharmonicsrobj8246 2 года назад
@@danietripv Your response to my comment is most judgmental. 1) What exactly is inappropriate to you, be specific? 2) How would you personally know what God wants? Do you have divine access to information no one else seems to have? I think not! 3) The biblical scripture states: God made mankind in the image of "us" (plural) male and female (masculine/feminine). The Kabbalah text states that the sun represents masculine and the moon represents feminine. Furthermore Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for rape, murder, corruption and anarchy, not specifically sexuality. Learn for yourself.
@Episcopalianacolyte
@Episcopalianacolyte 5 месяцев назад
Yes. My associate pastor in the Roman Catholic church wanted to have a _relationship_ with me. When I told my Archbishop, he was rewarded with the job of pastor of a rural church. It is so hypocritical. A new priest told me that in his semenary, there were mostly gay men and that it is ignored. This was in the USA. Some dioceses are extremely homophobic and I was warned about them. Now I am Episcopalian and free of the hypocricy.
@nolusindisomatyumza943
@nolusindisomatyumza943 6 месяцев назад
I'm catholic. Catholic priests are now becoming more and more confusing. Some have secret offsprings, some secretly committed to relationships and now they are openly gay? Why would they not leave and marry, gay partners or otherwise, and have families. If this is about being a priest, they can go be Methodist or Anglican priests and marry and have same sex partners if they wish. I think the debate here should be why they opted to be bound by Catholic vows to start with. Would it be unfair to think they had ulterior motives from the onset, when they took those vows? They should come clean, they got in, took the vows so they change the catholic church principles, from within. This is vanity they are feeding us now. So when these altar boys report 'sexual abuses' against 'some priests' they can say they are in a relationship, it is corruption at its best
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 6 лет назад
Lord Have Mercy. Does he think he is the first to oppose church teaching? The church will never change because God cannot change. His mom must be so ashamed to tell all her friends and neighbors “my son works in the Vatican” and now this. So very sad. I as a Catholic would give my left arm to work in the Vatican. I remember reading the life of Cardinal Spellman. He said every time he got promoted he would tell his mom and she would always respond the same “my prayer is u always remain a good and holy priest.”
@dibble2005
@dibble2005 5 лет назад
church teaching from a bunch of pedophiles.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
@@dibble2005 He's condemning gays while citing Cardinal Spellman. He is stupid.
@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959
@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959 2 года назад
Quartodecimans, Polycarp Bishop of Symerna 14th Avib-Nissan Passover... The Roman Church is deviant to YaHWeH Elohim Adonai
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 2 года назад
@@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959 yikes
@northchurch753
@northchurch753 5 лет назад
If he was in a gay relationship I think it was the breach in celibacy that got him removed
@LD-nl5vf
@LD-nl5vf 6 лет назад
I hope you do not forget Your vow of obedience, humility and selfless for Jesus.
@purityballs7446
@purityballs7446 2 года назад
The Church isn't God. He's doing what he should by leaving it and telling all other gay people to leave it.
@michellea9857
@michellea9857 Год назад
well put
@ms.chocolatecandy
@ms.chocolatecandy Год назад
Before anyone starts relying on motifs such as “don’t judge others” or “the Bible is man made,” please note the fact that the Bible doesn’t support such motifs. There are more laws in the Bible besides the Ten Commandments. Leviticus condemned homosexuality. This law did not change in the New Testament (Romans 1:26-28). Therefore, anyone practicing homosexuality is clearly violating God’s law. Using either motif doesn’t apply. Stating facts is not judging others. Additionally, if a priest (or anyone else for that matter) feels that these laws in the Bible are man made, why would they allow themselves to be governed by the Bible? What it boils down to is this: People wish to “pick and choose” the parts of the Bible that they want to follow while using the Blood of Jesus to justify their willful practices of sin. Read Jude 14-15, 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10, and Matthew 7:21-23. If a person is misusing the Blood of Jesus as an excuse to practice sin, God will punish you, even if you are doing good works. So, that priest has to decide whether to uphold God’s standards or reject it all together. That said, he will not win favor of God if he willingly practices what God hates.
@stanislausklim7794
@stanislausklim7794 3 года назад
It is not about having same-sex attraction. That is not the issue at play. The problem is ACTING on the homesexuality.
@richardfrost4936
@richardfrost4936 5 лет назад
This “Priest” is in Error.
@FormidableSantiago
@FormidableSantiago 4 года назад
1 corinthians 6:9
@AL-ns1jm
@AL-ns1jm 4 года назад
@@FormidableSantiago 7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
@FormidableSantiago
@FormidableSantiago 4 года назад
@@AL-ns1jm 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness Leviticus 18:22 “Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin. Romans 1:27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved. Revelation 22:15 But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
@FormidableSantiago
@FormidableSantiago 4 года назад
@@AL-ns1jm 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[a] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. 12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
@FormidableSantiago
@FormidableSantiago 4 года назад
@@AL-ns1jm I'll have you on my prayers, God bless🙏
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 6 лет назад
St. Maximilian Kolbe pray for us
@someguyinjeans5273
@someguyinjeans5273 4 года назад
Must homophobics say god hates flags but the bible also says “judge not and you shall not be judge. Condemn not and you wont be condemn” it says that in luke 6:37 Its werid how most homophobic Christians ignore that rule but the are so hard with other rules Edit: just so you know im a bisexual Christian who found this out after looking up what the bible says about judging after years of being bullied at school.
@LennyCooke636
@LennyCooke636 5 лет назад
They are supposed to be celibate why are they even discussing this ?
@LennyCooke636
@LennyCooke636 5 лет назад
@Paul Newfield -Pasadena, Ca. USA Thanks for making up the rules Paul. I suppose you are an expert and therefore can nullify the 2000 year old teachings of the Catholic Church. People like you are always looking for devilish signs at the end of time that if a miracle was to hit you square in the face you would not recognize it.
@LennyCooke636
@LennyCooke636 5 лет назад
@Paul Newfield -Pasadena, Ca. USA Paul if this is what you believe get out ! Go to another church where they will accept you. Go take your movement somewhere else. Better yet go to God and ask him what he thinks , if you have the courage.
@LennyCooke636
@LennyCooke636 5 лет назад
@Paul Newfield -Pasadena, Ca. USA Are you talking about yourself or the other priest ? Listen when I was young being a healthy heterosexual male, I put myself in situations where I knew there would be a lot of women. Such as taking a Nursing class. Now did you join the priesthood because consciously or subconsciously you wanted to "mingle" with men who are in a vulnerable situation, or did God really call you ? If God did not call you just leave. This is not the place to start movements or to gain acceptance from the world. If god did not call you just leave.
@eaumartineau7890
@eaumartineau7890 5 лет назад
@Paul Newfield -Pasadena, Ca. USA -- Satan behind thee. Jesus Christ forgive them for they do not know.
@gunnar.a.2874
@gunnar.a.2874 5 лет назад
Oh....and here I was thinking that chastity meant no sexuality of any kind......for anyone....heterosexual or homosexual. I am reminded that he - as a homosexual - is a protected minority and is allowed to bend the rules as much as he wants and play the long-suffering victim when people call him on his intellectual and moral dishonesty....silly heterosexual me.
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