I've never seen a story on priests coming out as "heterosexual". This fixation on homosexuality is bizarre. Priests take a vow of celibacy in order to serve their parish. It is entirely irrelevant whether they find men or women attractive because they are vowing not to be in any relationship. They are married to the church.
I agree. So basically the church is telling them how to live. I personally don't need or want anyone telling me how to live. The human race makes me laugh at times in that people will use their time and energy to argue or whatever about the dumbest crap instead of maybe using their time and energy to cure hunger, etc. And in the end, talking or arguing back and forth does nothing.
A good bishop would deprive them all of their faculties. Celibate or not, it’s nothing but pure narcissism. If being gay is an identity to them, they do not belong in the priesthood.
@@ted1091 We are made in God’s Image as man and woman. Heterosexuality is the only right way according to God. Men who reject their natural inclination towards women are rejecting God’s Word itself.
Very good comment. May God bless you! Get a clue dude. You are not going to face opposition. You are going to face excommunication, and eventually damnation. I actually want you to repent. I want you to live a chaste life. I don't want anyone going to "that place". As human beings, we do not have the capacity to relate to how horrible it is. Shame on CBS for this horrible story. True Catholics know how this ends Farmer Ted is wrong. The worm dieth not. Just ask Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Nero, Judas, bin Laden, and on........
The first priest did nothing wrong and continues to follow the rules of priesthood, it seems that you are just bigoted against a group of people and do not want to accept them as Jesus would.
if a preist encourages love based on facts not dogma, what ishe screaming ?If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of our species & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@@jockstrap6179 Actually no it's not a "logical corollary"--it's a quote. From the priest. In the video. He--the priest--said, "every day, I pretend I am something I am not." Watch the video.
@@agnusdei6716 Your advice to Fr Greg clearly implies, in light of his quoted words, that all priests are pretenders: if you don't want to pretend, Fr Greg, 'then don't be a priest.' See? You got this much correct: all priests are indeed pretenders, since Jesus did not establish a priesthood: his death and resurrection obviated levitical priesthood (according to Hebrews) and, therefore, ALL intermediary agency. Roman Catholic priesthood is an intermediary agency. Your advice was ironically prophetic, its true import hidden from you.
True. The problems that started these scandals included accepting modernism or I guess progressivism and accepting priests who were not serious about the virtue of chastity and disordered thoughts. U had to have 1 year of chastity and the vetting process was not followed. These heretical priests need to change their ways and obey the infallible teachings of the church concerning priests
History has it that Preists were not allowed to wed so they would leave their money to the church. I never understood suppressing a natural act such as sex to be able to serve the Lord. It’s an expression of love.
@@andyjulia Then you understand nothing about Spirituality and Vocation. Neither do you understand Primogeniture which meant that the eldest son inherited and younger sons , either joined the Military or the Church. Obviously, for you, the only important issues are Sex and Money! Not very "holy" or spiritual at all.
@@madeleine7 Seminaries are called Pink Palaces by the seminarians. Dont tell me, youre one of those wonderful catholics who think the CC can do no evil. Its pure and white. (;-D
THE ONLY SIN BEING COMMITTED ON THIS FEED IS THE...HATE, HATE AND HATE TOWARDS YOUR NEIGHBORS FOR BEING GAY!!! SHAME ON YOU!!! FOR YOU DO NOT WALK IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF JESUS AND HIS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE FOR EVERYONE!!!
When I was growing up we had a whole bunch of " flamboyant" priests and brothers and a lot of very butch looking and acting nuns and yet no one could ever seem to put two and two together, the level of denial was and is insane
I know. There was always joke about some priests who look and behave effeminate but no one dared ask questions. Yea, I remember the nuns were sort of masculine and always strict and unpleasant.
@@iceblue1457 so THAT'S what the two of you got out of going to 'church'? Really? So maybe these days 'church' doesn't really work if that's what you took away from it.
I enjoyed coming upon gay priests along my journey. they were being authentic and I actually felt the most spiritual connection as they had burdens and understood mine. It was never a spoken thing. It was definitely a mutual understanding and one that made no difference in our relationship as friends finding our ways in life.
I once worked in a Catholic diocese where I was told that there was a "flamboyant" priest who once told his organist "whatever you do, don't play 'Hail, Holy Queen' when I come down the aisle!"
“I say this because some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches, saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives. The condemnation of such people was recorded long ago, for they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” Jude 1:4 NLT
I agree it was well said, and it speaks to the timing of our culture when we are all seeking unconditional love so we can be forgiven. We need a home. How can the presbytery of the Catholic Church forgive our sins when they are sinful, too? Where do we turn for holiness? Where is our home? We find holiness in the Holy Family of Joseph, Mary, and Jesus. That's our home. God's divine love is found in a prayerful community of believers. We are tempted by our confusion to argue about traditions. But when we focus on God's revelation in the Holy Family, we are thunderstruck with humility and gently instructed on the sanctity of human life. God became man. We can't change what God has done. And why would we want to unless we were broken, afraid, and confused? Jesus was the first-born of a new Creation. We just don't accept Him yet, and we hang onto the darkness because it's a form of dramatic entertainment and a distraction from our own holiness. No one is rejecting gay people in the Catholic Church. We are all called to holiness because we were all born into the "blessed Holy Family" by a mother & father. They weren't gay. God, our source of life, sanctified the union between a sperm and an egg in a heterosexual relationship. God sanctified the Holy Family, our source of love and wisdom and leadership. This is why we Catholics emulate what God has already done.
Your family whether biological or adopted family chose you. To belong to the church as a priest, you are called and you are formed. At the start you know the conditions so that you can discern if it is the place for you or not. Your superiors will be observing you and will determine if you should stay or be let go. You can pretend to your superiors but you cannot pretend to God. If you could not fit, accept or obey, that is an indication you should leave.
That priest should realize that it’s not all about him. “Coming out of the closet” is self centered and irrelevant. Living an authentically Christian life is HARD, no matter who you are. We are all called to pick up our crosses and follow Christ.
If there is no cross there is no crown. I think it is ok if you are gay priest as long as you are pure, and virginal, then everuthing is all right. Now, if you act on it sexually, one should not be a priest.
@@sme7385 he did say that everyday he’s got to live a lie and unable to continue to be gay. That’s grounds for removal if he’s admitting he sometimes is gay. He didn’t say he was chaste yet celibate at the moment.
@@AV-tm5zf I will repeat again it's ok to be gay but NOT to act on it phsycially, sexually, or emotionally. meaning no relationships, or sex, put remaining pure. NOthing wrong with being gay and pure and virginal. Nothing at all.
Celibacy doesnt mean Chaste. Celibacy means he can have sex tomorrow. So hes admitting he possibly does this. Its not about being gay. Your not suppose to have sex period. Gay or straight. Again, hes celibate yet not Chaste and obidient to his call as a Priest. Priest get excommunicated for this. Gay or Straight.
@@AV-tm5zf I mean pure as in PURE NEVER had sex before or ever will. There is nothing wrong with being gay and PURE. What is wrong with being gay if the priest serves his flock as long as he leads them to Christ and is a good priest what matters his sexuality? I mean come on......So what if he lives with it? Maybe it his CROSS to carry, and if he carries it well, nothing wrong with serving the parishoner's needs in a good way.
Most people - most of the congregation - know very well the priests who are gay and the priests who are sexually actuve. Hard to keep secrets in the parishes and diocese. secrets
I find it most interesting that a guy says he's celibate, and also gay. If you are celibate, who knows or cares about your sexuality. All that is necessary in "leading the flock" is moral responsibility and kindness.
I thought I was gay when I was younger..... Turns out it's A-sexual for me.... 🤷 Just think though if I confided in one of those priests and they could guide you into actually believing you are gay without finding out other definitions
Not so. Identity is very important. He is celibate yet Gay. As Seth points out, it's about identity. That's what Father refuses to keep hidden any longer.
Yes. As a Catholic, I want to say that all people - gay, straight, black, white, short, tall, whatever - are welcome in the Church. We are all sinners and in need of God's mercy and love. However, entering into a covenant relationship with Him means that we have to abide by the terms of the covenant. And it's through successfully living this covenant that we are formed into His image.
@C de Fg Perhaps you would be well served by re-reading my post, rather than launching into an unwarranted and inaccurate tirade against Catholicism. And, as it's the Easter Vigil, I will simply say: Christus Resurrexit!
@@dafrasier1 Got news news for you Dave Catholics were the first Christians. The Catholic Church is entering it's Passion but it will be resurrected and then when the Great Tribulation is over we All will be the one True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith Amen!!!🙏🙏🙏
If you can't control your sexuality then leave the church nobody the force you to become a priest.if you are a priest and you sleep with even a woman then you don't need to be a priest.
as a catholic, I don't care if my priest is same sex attracted, so long as they remain celibate. the Catholic church is not trying to kick anyone out, we just ask anyone that is SSA to live a chaste life. we are all broken sinners, and we all have our cross to bear, in order to live our lives according to the commands of our lord and savior. if we are to truly be followers of Christ, we MUST obey his teachings, we cant expect his teachings to change to meet the zeitgeist
@@ted1091 OK yeah, lets just ignore 4000 years of consistent Judaeo/christian teaching, because they offend your modern sensibility. sure, or you could get right with God.
This WHOLE message is faulty! If this priest is 'celebate' than he is not 'gay.' 'Gay' speaks of active sexuality NOT celibacy. The priesthood is NOT the place for 'gay' men to hide nor to 'express' their true desire in these very interviews which is to bring not just active sexuality to the priesthood, but homosexual active acceptance. Let’s get it straight - it doesn't matter if one is a homosexual or heterosexual priest: sexually active men have no place in the priesthood. Too, if my personal weakness is Gluttony, should I then expect God to bless Gluttony?! God made us male and female for a reason. Let’s all get our brains off our sex organs and invest ourselves in the thought processes of the Divine Creator.
Thats all the catholic church can think about is sex organs. Its clergy and nuns all have to be celibate, which they arent. The CC says that to fool the faithful. The convents are hen houses for the straight priests. The babies get buried under the convents. The church that christ founded.
being gay is not dependent on being sexually active. One has a sexual orientation regardless of if they are acting on it. They are gay and celibate, just as other priests are straight and celibate.
@@volz519 You are VERY wrong. A priest has a particular spiritual 'identity.' When living his priesthood as he ought to be, he has no 'sexual preference.' The only sort of priest that would refer to hiimself as 'gay' is one who is either very spiritually, mentally and emotionally confused, or is seeking to do 'sinister' harm to the Church and her children. There is NO room for ambiguities on the point of the priesthood in the Latin Tradition.
@@thomashess6211 The Church that Christ founded - but staffed by sinful human beings. The Church has many doctrines, most of which don't relate to sex. It's human beings who are sexually-fixated. Regarding those dead babies - have you rung the Police ? LOL - that's all Mythology !
Bishop Robert Morlino said it best. If a man cannot relate to marrying a woman and give that sacrament up as a sacrifice to become a Catholic priest, he should not become a priest.
@@kylemathias6335 I do read my bible, and have for years now. That's what I previously said in a comment. He would love them, but share the Truth with them. Which is to repent. As for your question about willfully sinning, and loving Jesus, that's a personal struggle, and individual circumstances with each person I guess.
I was raised Catholic, but I no longer follow the faith due to many reasons that I won't get into now. I have no issues with people choosing to live a gay lifestyle, but let's face it folks, the bible pretty much is against homosexuality, and these gay priests are choosing to change the rules for their own benefit. If I was a practicing Catholic, I would have a problem with a gay priest preaching to me. I'd have no problem with him forming his own ministry somewhere else and forming his own rules, but it wouldn't be based on the bible. This is no different than Ted Haggard preaching from the bible but living a different lifestyle. In the end, I stopped believing because I felt the bible is pretty much BS with people not really following the faith as it is written anyhow.
We are all sinners and shouldn't condemn, judge others. It seems these proclamations overlook the emphasis on the importance of love and unity; but they also stressed the importance of respect. Unfortunately, too many people focus on the judgemental aspects of these recent " clarifications".
@@gerardburns1165 - Sorry, but we all judge each other. Would you want this man to continue preaching if he was a pedophile, or would you say we shouldn't judge him for being a pedophile? The Catholic Doctrine does nor endorse homosexual relationships, period. If you don't agree with the Church, form your own parish with your own rules. He doesn't leave because he depends on the Catholic Church to take care of him through housing and food. He does get paid for his duties, and thus, he must obey their rules.
@UCndTv5nYlaRY7q_rs2uxN-w - What do you mean by "These comments?" Whose comments could cause fallout? If anything, society is going overboard trying to appease gays these days. Check out the Evergreen State college fiasco involving Bret Weinstein to see what I'm talking about. I'm all for EQUAL rights for all, but that also means everyone obeying the same rules.
@@gerardburns1165 so you think it’s ok for a gay Catholic priest to talk about his sexuality in front of small children? Shame on you. The Catholic Church Priest are called to be CHASTE AND OBEDIENT not celibate. I can be celibate for a moment then go off and have transgressions the next moment. Anyone can be celibate. Catholic priesthood is to be Chaste not sometimes I wanna have intercourse as a gay Priest. You think that’s their vow to be celibate. No. He shouldn’t be on the pulpit even talking about his “CELIBACY .” That’s abusive to his congregation, the small children, and goes against his priestly duties and vows. Priest also cannot be associated with lbgt clubs privately or publicly because it goes against the sacrament of marriage...anyone who thinks it’s ok for a servant of God to serve his own needs from the pulpit is a heretic and an abuser to children listening to a very adult subject.
he did this under false pretense. He supressed it as its in an article. And he said that they allowed him to be gay and go through an 8 year process of seminary. Im very skeptical that he didnt know that being gay wasnt a good fit for Catholic Priesthood. Had he served Islam , Buddism or any other religion he would have been told no. It personally doesnt add up...because he "knew" that being gay wasnt accepted by his vows. He knows. Celibacy means youve had sex being unmarried. Yet Catholic Priest take a vow to be "CHASTE and OBIDIENT. So the quiestion is why is he not owning the CHASTE part yet he wants everyone to know he is Celibate....I can be celibate from anything temporarily...And if your going to talk from the pulpit it should be age appropriate and you should be the example to young and old. The subject of being gay talked from the pulpit is inappropriate from his vows and for parents whos children are in the pews. Priest are to serve the public not serve themselves and their personal matters and struggles. It doesnt work that way in Catholicism
If you work for a company, you follow the procedures, policies, requirements. If not, there are consequences which could be termination of your service.
@@RicardoMarchosky - exactly. It’s all one big corporation offering people salvation like snake oil salesman. Did you know priest means venomous serpent? From the old word Prester.
Well said @Ricardo Marchosky this this coming from a openly gay God loving spiritual and religious person. I never ever nor will I ever feel that I need the approval of a Church, priest, Pope, Bishops, Deacon or etc...Ever to be who I am, God/Jesus loves as I am Gay and proud.
@CIPH3RW0LF Well it' maybe kind of hard for people to understand. But Catholicism doesn't share the pure Gospel.They include false teachings which include Mary as mediatrix and playing a part in salvation as well as priest being able to forgive sins, idolatry and many more falsehoods. Look up Pagan roots of Catholicism.
The same God that made a Devil he is punishing mankind for or some other? Ask yourself if "free-will" is greater than foresight because I'd like to think this God KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE FORMED so he made man exactly how they are!
When he feels he cannot obey the requirements of the Church, it means that is not the place for him. The Church will not bend backwards and change its rules to fit the lifestyle gay priests want. He needs to leave.
@@mackenziedial6776 But it does not mean the theological truths will be revised. When they are still seminarians, they know the regulations and they have to obey. They have to be true to themselves and to the Church.
I’m Catholic and not anti gay. Haven’t been to Mass in over a year or contributed funds. For a priest to participate in this news exposè is sad to me. Non married Catholic’s are called to chastity, why not gay priests? How about this normalization of priestly promiscuity?
Fully agree and I am a practicing catholic more than ever but this NWO priest at the hierarchy want to be more political correct and popular and "modernist" and consent to gay priests, a blind eye to their "relationships". So we, the true Church (true pastors, true devoted flock) not the hierarchy, the institution, the deep church are fighting and praying from within to kick them out, including those that commit crimes against anyone.
I don't think any of the priests in this video are saying that gay priests should be exempt from celibacy. The one who admitted to not being celibate clearly recognizes that breaking that vow was wrong
The drama of exploring one's sexuality is in everyone's life. Whether of homosexual or heterosexual or bisexual orientation, all people are called to holiness. As a matter of fact, we all have life experiences, but a vocation to the priesthood is a spiritual journey. It's a very unique vocation. The Roman Catholic Church will not exalt gay unions because the Holy Family was not gay. God became human in the life between a man & a woman. It's well documented in the Gospels. The Catholic Church is built on the sanctity of human life as God revealed Himself to us: God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He was born of the Virgin Mary and became man. There's nothing gay there. Because of the incarnation of Jesus Christ, our salvation is won. Life begins at conception; everything is grace. We are the beneficiaries of some intense human suffering in the battle between good & evil. We are forgiven. You cannot change what God has already done. So, we live our lives as a Christian rooted in the Gospel. We Catholics will continue to purify our hearts by the power of the Holy Spirit and focus on the sanctity of the Holy Family of Joseph, Mary and Jesus. They weren't gay. And you can't spin that revelation to fit your narrative. To those who knock on the door of the Catholic Church and seek to change it, I say seek the Holy Spirit instead of institutional change, and everything you ask will be revealed to you. God loves us as we are, and calls us into right relationship with Him.
are you sure the holy father is not gay ? can you try reading this?If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of our species & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
We gay men and lesbians have often been drawn to a spiritual life throughout the centuries in many religious traditions. We are well suited to these communities to make the greater communities our families and to be of service to them. In some aboriginal cultures we served those roles openly as shamans. The tragedy is that the modern equivalents have decided we are evil, unworthy, so you get this bizarre situation in which those best suited to a life of spiritual service are discarded. You can't help but feel sorry for these young men and women who felt a spiritual calling which collided with another core of their identity.
The Commandments of God are about being responsible and choosing not to give in to cardinal lust. Choosing to be good in order to set a good example for our children. These people today only care about their own selfish needs and desires with no consideration for what it might do to our children. They're behaving like children themselves... and sometimes overgrown babies
The irony that I find so astounding it that there is such a large number of priests who are gay. I went to a Catholic college and one of my good friends decided upon graduation to enter the seminary. He was deeply religious and very straight. He left the seminary after about a month because he described it as a gay stalking ground, where gay Catholic men felt most safe to hide their sexuality in the cloaks of the priesthood. I must say that for me as a conflicted gay man at that time, it was a very tempting thought to enter the priesthood and hide from my sexuality. Thank goodness I chose a path of honesty and openness !!!
Being gay and celibate is still accepted by the Church but that should not be norm. But once a gay priest is not faithful to his celibate vow, then he better leaves the priesthood. Generally gays should not be priests, because their attitude does not conform to the virtues of priesthood.
@@RPlavo there are over 400000 priests in the world. I am pretty sure that most of them have discerned their call long enough before entering seminary and then finally being ordained as priests. Those who have entered the seminary for other motives are the ones crying out now for recognition. Their vocation is not genuine. It would be better for them to leave and search for another vocation. Life would be much easier for them if they leave the priesthood. Why trying to push your agenda if you know very well that the Catholic Church is not going to change anything in that regard. Humans cannot change divine and natural laws. Simple as that. And priests and bishops like gay Fr. Martin who present themselves as freedom fighters in reality don't have the spine the defend the truth. A priest who conforms to the values and pressures of this world leads his sheep astray.
what attitude do gays have that makes them unfit to be priests? They literally aren't any different from straight priests. Both have to agree to be celibate forever and deal with temptation and feelings that might come up. Gay people aren't obsessed with sex.
@@MrBandaman why do you assume that all gay priests have entered their vocation for ulterior motives? They enter the priesthood for the same reason that straight men do, because it's their calling and they want to do it. It really sounds like you've never had a meaningful conversation with a gay person.
Since your a priest you should have read the bible, the scripture is very clear that men cannot lay with men or woman with woman, did you overlook this or are you willfully sinning, there is no other way, you are making a mockery of God's word, you should be ashamed, you can over come homosexuality if you ask Jesus, but you should never present yourself as a man of god, may God have mercy on your soul
They aren't laying with men, or anyone else, if they are adhering to their celibacy vows. The Bible only talks about sex acts, not what gender someone is attracted to.
The Pope is saying that gay men shouldn’t be priests and yet it sounds like they’re a 50/50 or possibly 80 percent chance that the pope himself is gay. Lol
Not for all priests as this video shows or for any homosexual or pervert. So you took him out of context. Not only that you like he are trying to smooth over and are boasting about SIN. He is in a flowery way, a rainbow way saying "the desire for sin/commit crimes against God is greater than the fear of God". NOW what is your point? So you've demonstrated in public with your face that you are very blind, oblivious, and can't make a proper point.
If your LGBTQ and your looking for a church to join the Episcopal Church, Presbyterian Church, and Lutheran Church are definitely the most welcoming in actually following the word of "God Loves All"
I just read that tons of priests have been using Grindr. This is why they need to use flip phones only, no smartphones. Monks and nuns understand that ministry involves going without certain things. Why would this not apply to priests too? If you can't sacrifice and avoid temptation, maybe the ministry is just not for you..
If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of our species & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace this for the truth
@Era Fascista that must be dealt with by the law. We all know the church sees that as an internal matter. The priests must be turned over to the police. They are not permitted to handle it themselves....
Sorry ma'am God cannot accept sin in the church. But he will accept any person who is gay and does not act on the gay tendencies. Anyone who thinks he's gay should realize that he's been called to a life of celibacy. If you're gay and celibate; no problem but you are gay and having homosexual relations it will be impossible for God to accept such a person into his kingdom of the person does not repent and forsake homosexuality. Please madam, preach the truth. We as Catholics mist preach the truth in all situation even if the truth is going to hurt some people.
Man must let God deal with our satanic reactions of our flesh and let will be done not how we want it to be.Jesus is going to do what is right by His father not the desires of your our flesh we have to line up and conform to the ways of Gods Word it will never change.
truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of our species & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
As a single,gay Episcopalian,baptized RC,I found this report enjoyable.I don't see being gay as a sin--i believe God loves me as I am.The reporter,Seth Doane,is openly gay and married--I found it very appropriate for Seth's bosses to assign him this story. Very intriguing Seth interviewing the Italian sex worker!
is this book in topic ? If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of our species & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
Then you must get out the Church, if you are against Her teachings, you cannot be a pure Catholic if a simple teaching both biblical and Catechism is unacceptable for you
what going on with you guys...!?gay or traight aslong time your life after vow to married with god its mean no sex....,so just live the holy life of human nature on earth with blessing from father up above ,you guys job is friest mean to serv the brothers sisters who needs help on life ...not thinking about sexuality
Soooo right, just saying I am gay and part of the LGBT community means you define yourself according to your sexual orientation and you agree with a gay agenda in the church. Mmhh do not know if that is the best for your priesthood.
I see nothing wrong with being a priest and gay. But, whether straight or gay their is a vow of celibacy. Be a gay priest, but keep your vows...or leave the priesthood!!
Lol... Yes it is, in the lukewarm parishes that have no values. Come to a vibrant traditional church, who actually believe in the magisterium of the Catholic Church and you will NEVER see this.
There have been gay people in the world since creation. Who gives a damn. And who is to say some of Jesus's followers were not gay? I have no idea and I don't care. And yes, I am a practicing Catholic who knows celibacy came into the Chuch in the 1200s- that was never part of Jesus' s teachings - priests are married in some Easter. European factions -and they seem to be doing well - and if the man-made precepts were abolished -as they are not from God - -the Church would certainly not be in the mess it finds itself in for decades. I really admire Pope Francis and attend a Jesuit parish. But have no patience with exclusivity -when Jesus was all about inclusivity -which is clearly stated in New Testament readings.
He holds the purse. But more and more Catholics are getting open minded to the reality that the pope is getting dubious. For example, during Easter last year, he did not even mention the word RESURRECTION in his Easter homily.
@@sme7385 False. The holy father, Pope Francis is a good man after God's own heart. He sits on the chair of St Peter and he is Not evil. His eyes doesn't show that, you are rather evil yourself
The priest says he has been wearing a mask, pretending to be something that he's not. He was referring to the fact that his congregation was unaware that he was a gay priest. However, the real mask has been wearing is not that he's been a closeted gay, but that he's masquerading around as a Catholic. This man is an impostor!
What the hell does his sexual persuasion have to do with his job. Why does it even have to be mentioned. In 51 years of life, Ive NEVER heard any Priest come out and talk about being a heterosexual. Why do they have to come out and talk about their personal sexuality. How stupid.
The celibacy thing was added after taking away the right to marry. Its based solely on the financial structure and the amount of land and property owned by the Catholic Church. they don't want priests to be able to pass land or property down to children or spouses. It used to be OK for priests to marry
You can try to fool the crowd but you can't fool God and at the end of the day he's going to show up all the anti-christ people whether it's by other people or the person themselves.
How did they find out they were gay? Aren't they supposed to be celibate. When you are celibate who cares about sexual orientation, you are never going to use your tool.
The Bible also explicitly implies that divorce is a sin, and that marriage can only end by death. So how can the church say that they are condoning people getting remarried when they bless those marriages, and not those of initial gay couples. That is unfair.
There is (IMHO) no problem with homosexual priests PROVIDING (as is required of their heterosexual brother priests) they do not ACT on their homosexuality. Priests who are heterosexual are expected to be celibate & the same ruling MUST apply to those with homosexual orientation.
What an atrocious thing to ask of a human being to deny/ignore a persons authentic self as well as ask them to be abstinent, love & sex are basic human need We all know that homosexuals exist in the Catholic church, homosexuality has existed since the beginning of time.
@@phyllisbowen3698 Then tell the Buddhists ! - their monks and nuns practise celibacy. There is corruption - sexual or financial - in all the churches. It isn't the result of celibacy, but of a collapse in the faith and personal scruples of many of the clergy. Though agreed - the situation in the RCC in the West is dire; the Church is in the worst state it's ever been in since the Renaissance, i.e. since about 1500.
Catholic Priests (like Aaron in the Old Testament )are "Consecrated", "Set Apart" to serve the Lord and carry out their priestly duties in "Sanctity". Priests desecrate that office by blatant, recurring, unrepented sin. This puts themselves and their flock in danger of incurring the Lord's wrath. Nobody would want a Minister to stay in office, who admonishes his flock to practice loyalty and chastity, while all knew him to be an unrepented adulterer on the side. Or, that Minister himself, declaring his support and sympathy to adulterers saying, well if you can't change, it's ok, God will understand. No. When priests and nuns take their vows, Christ becomes their Spouse and He expects them to remain loyal to Himself, to their vows and to their flock - regardless of their own carnal desires. That is why the Lord said to count the cost. That anyone not willing to renounce all in order to follow Him, was not worthy of Him. To give someone support and assurance, in something Scripture specifically condems, is not Love, it is helping to put their souls in danger. Too many remain silent and Scripture says God will judge us for having remained silent and not warning the sinner. Pray for priests, nuns and those serving the Lord for they are mercilessly tempted by Evil and by the World. And we are all sinners, but when those Set Apart to minister in the Holy things of the Lord sin, it is even more grievous. God forgive us all.
If you knew about the beings that instituted the priesthood - you’d see there’s nothing “holy” about it. Surely by now you’ve read up on the Sumerian tablets of creation.
@@chris-solmon4017 Just like Greek or Roman or other accounts of creation, the Sumerian account is Myth, or Sci-Fi. It takes more faith to believe these as truth than what the Bible writings narrate. But, as the saying goes, You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink".
Whether Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual, Pansexual, Polysexual, Asexual, Robosexual, Metrosexual, Or Objectumsexual every sexual orientation and fetish should be respected as long as there is consent or privacy
truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of our species & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
Gay isn't an identity. Neither is heterosexual. Get over yourselves already and just be honest about wanting to have sexual relations. That's what this whole thing is about.
When was the last time this Milwaukee priest prayed a Rosary? It's probably been years ( if ever). Also, I'm not surprised that there are hardly any people at mass his mass. There are probably countless parishioners who left that church when he came out a few years ago ... And now filling the Tridentine churches down the street to capacity. All of these priests need heavy duty prayers. Now CBS Sunday Morning, run a story on the the FSSP and how hordes of Roman Catholics are packing the churches of the Traditional Latin Masses. It is phenomenal and beautiful to see.
I think people who pack traditional Latin Masses are practicing a form of idolatry.....a ritual more important than the Gospel which is actually a sidebar for those people!
@@RPlavo The Traditional Latin Mass is actually transcendent, something you won't find anywhere else. Nothing "idolatrous" about it. Those who pack auditoriums with rock bands, flashing lights, and smoothies and cappuccinos are worshiping creation more than the Creator, and the Gospel is the sidebar there. Jesus was a Jew and went to the Temple and synagogues. So did his apostles after He ascended, before Churches were built. The Mass combines the Old with the New, just as Jesus did at the Last Supper.
Better to be open and celebrate the than in the closet and sexually active. Gay and sexually active priests are not obeying vows to God. Gay priest who Keep their vow to God should remain in the church, they don't need to hide.
I, a person, a viable man, contributory citizen, a 4 decades social activist championing love dispelling mythology cultivated by religions I am also marginalized, still and I am sickened by this topic, this topic that continue to get airplay for decades now. Twenty years ago I and 100's of other wrote the Catholic church renouncing our baptism and declaring that religion CAN NOT own our souls and admonishing Catholic Religious governance for atrocities against humanity. That religion is at the heart of much suffering, and that religion harbors criminals. Shame, shame, shame be on Catholicism. And shame on Catholicism for continuing a narrative of lies and corruption.
Even scarier when one realizes religion ultimately controls banking and governments. Cult-ural religion provided global blueprints for systems of control. Rarely will you see politicians attacking the pope or any other high priest. Took me years to recognize that.
Religion elevates the human soul, the problem is the corruption of the men in the institution created based on such beliefs, that do not follow their own doctrine. Our Lord said: Love God and others as you love yourselves. Who does that really? Of course the church teachings does not approve of same sex relations. Well if you are gay do not join or leave if you are not celibate or you have issues with your sexuality. Pretty simple. But you want a nice comfortable life or to be looked at a pastor by your congregation. That is not love.
I think homosexual priest should not advertise that especially if they're not celibate.. How about just be a priest doing what Jesus called you to do and never mind about whether you're heterosexual or homosexual.
