GEN V: Soldier Boy VS Sam - Who Would Win? 

Do you see Sam getting stronger than Soldier Boy? The similarities are definitely there! Comment your thoughts below!

Soldier Boy is near Homelander level, Sam is near Queen Maeve level. Anything Sam does, Soldier boy does better. Soldier boy is more Durable, Strong, Jump power, Reaction time, Fast, and has more destructive capabilities. Soldier Boy wipes the floor with Sam.

Sam is also weak against electricity and gas. Soldier Boy seemed immune to almost all gasses, with only a vapor nerve gas harming him. Soldier Boy wins.

You can tell Sam lacks any type of training and only goes off his emotion. If he ever did receive any type of fighting or skills training, i think Sam could be dangerous

I think everyone is overlooking Sam’s jumping it not a ability it’s how strong he is and being held by Emma and the dumpster and refrigerator is because he is a kid that had been locked up. I think Sam doesn’t know how strong he is I don’t necessarily think Sam could defeat starlight with no training but strength wise he is top 3 in either shoe just my opinion

Solider boy would destroy Sam , soldier boy is a pretty skilled fighter and Sam kinda fights recklessly

“Buddy, you think you look tough, you have a bowl cut.”

An interesting note about soldier boy is i think he's stronger than we realize. When utilizing his blast it seems to weaken him for a little while. He's always limping and staggering after. When he went up against homelander it was right after using it so he seemed already exhausted but still strong enough to throw homelander around and even stalemate at certain moments. When he was at full strength he was rag dolling every single supe who came at him. An interesting note about Sam is i don't think he's grown into his powers yet. He's 18 or 19 and constantly plagued by schizophrenia. I wonder what he'd be like in his physical prime at 21 and absolutely pushing his limits. Not far behind queen Maeve i reckon if not already on par.

Solider boy = More durable than Homelander Homelander = Slightly stronger than Soldier Boy

I think Sam’s powers are very all over the place because of his schizophrenia, and if he could learn to control himself and get his mental state under control he’d be able to do WAY more damage. All that, AND he’s still only a kid. It probably makes sense that Supe’s powers get stronger with age sort of like puberty, so tbh I could definitely see Sam putting up at least somewhat of a fight against someone like Soldier Boy ( maybe not Homelander yet) in the future. Every scene of his strength has shown that he rips through people like pieces of paper, VERY similar to Homelander and Soldier Boy. It would be so dope to get a third individual who’s considered overwhelmingly dangerous to the public because of how powerful they are, and maybe even someone who isn’t a sociopath or narcissist like we’ve seen twice now.

I have a theory that Sam will become Black Noir. It would fit perfectly if Sam goes missing at the end of the season. Then we could see the new Seven introduced, and Homelander would be shocked to see that Black Noir is back. Homelander might try to roughen up Noir, but he wouldn't get far. Noir’s mask would have a layer of Zinc that prevents anyone from seeing his face. Homelander would see that Noir also seems to be even stronger than before, so It could be an almost equal match for him.

Sam does well against regular joes. But Polarity and other sups seem to subdue him pretty quick...I don't think that would be the case with soldier boy.

Sam has psychic powers it’s been shown on at least 3 occasions pulling the codes for guards manifesting himself in Luke’s mind and resistance to Kate’s powers

Sam is a Soldier Boy/Black Noir type character. All of his powers come from physical capabilities, or at least those we've seen so far. Whether he would defeat Soldier Boy or not would depend on the state in which Soldier Boy would be found, because on the contrary he is a much better fighter than Sam. Still, Sam is just as brutal as Homelander and so I don't doubt he would put up a good fight.

as much as i love sam, i really dont think he's that much of a powerhouse, and i think the only reason why its been so hard for the group to subdue him is because their lack of experience/weaker skill set, and because of how unpredictable sam can be. But if sam were to go up against practically any supe from The Boys, i feel like they could subdue/incapacitate him pretty easily. So, its not really a question of how strong he is, but really how much weaker/inexperienced his opponents are in comparison.

The gas that knocks out Soldier Boy might be the same gas that knocked out San in episode 1 when he escaped. The soldiers gassed him with something while Andre pinned him with the car. They were even using the same delivery system we saw mother's milk use on soldier boy. As for strength, it's pretty clear that Sam is about on Maeve's level. Also I think people are underestimating just how strong and durable Emma is. Even tiny she can survive fighting with ants without a scratch, she can jump off the equivalent of a 20 story building and land on her feet just fine, she can even tunnel her way through a guy's skull and that's while she's TINY. Now when she giant sized her strength and durability is probably more greatly enhanced. I think she truly held Sam down because she had similar strength, superior mass and leverage. I think she might even be as strong as homelander. We just don't know because she's been so ashamed of using her powers in a serious way and only used her giant power twice in her life. I don't think her powers are based on calorie intake and outtake though. I think that's a psychological weakness she developed because of her mom's mental abuse growing up. It would be too hard to regulate her calories to keep a specific height especially given how quickly they portrayed intake of calories effecting her. I feel like she would have accidentally ingested too many calories fairly often and enlarged. Plus her shrink and enlarge powers make her caloric absorption work in opposite ways which is impossible. We see her enlarge within seconds of eating pasta but somehow the rest of the time her body doesn't absorb calories very fast as she can purge her stomach content even hours after eating. This strongly suggests it's psychological and that in her mind she views purging as being associated with her shrinking power and binge eating/overeating being associated her growth power because that's the psychological damage her mom created in her with her body shaming her eating all her life. Hopefully she overcomes that psychological limitation because she's the most interesting character by far and I'd love to see her become a hero.

Sam is more similar to Maeve than Solider Boy honestly, at least as far as powers go.

I think all of them are much stronger than they know.. Like a clear example is Andre, he's clearly a Magneto styled hero yet we've only seen him do really simple shit.. I think we'll see him do far greater things in season 2.. But its the same with the other heroes.. Cate takes those pills/sams always on meds/Marie is only now understanding that she can blood bend.. And Emma getting big, she could eat a fuck ton and crush anyone.

Solider boy is a walking bomb that nullifies supe powers I’m a huge fan of Sam and he has the potential to beat a lot of characters in the boys but right now without further experimentation or training I don’t think he’s beating Solider Boy

They did an amazing job with gen V.

i think it is very soon to compare sam to other supes because we still don't know how powerful sam really is or how powerful marie really is after we watch end of the series then we can talk about (who would win) because for now we only know sam has superhuman strength +durability

If I had to guess Sam is more around Queen Maves level of strength than Soldier Boys

It seems that Sam's fighting scenes with ordinary soldiers are a lot more brutal and impressive than Ben's when he fought in Nicaragua but maybe just because they get better martial director in gen V as well?Blue Hawk's fighting scenes at black community look ways more impressive than Soldier Boy's either

It’s hard to say what Sam is truly capable of in the beginning when he fought Marie and Jordan they struggled yes but still managed to hold him back however when they went against him again when he went after cate he destroyed them like they were nothing. Not to mention it’s highly possible Sam has psychic abilities also they were using him to boost golden boys powers brink confirmed this saying he was stronger then ever. Sam’s mind has been so muddled thanks to cate that his powers which we don’t even know what they are have been hindered now he is free and probably going to get trained and help from Emma i cannot wait to see what becomes of Sam and Marie those 2 I think are the most powerful that haven’t reached their full potential or strength yet.

I suspect the one thing really going in Sam's favor too is that, well, he isn't an asshole and as soon as they remember him, he will have a support team that won't betray him to get rid of him. I also think his appearance next week is a Sam hallucination. Like what happened with the puppet and then the team rallying around him cause his hallucination to age up a bit. And he seems to like Payback as a team. I am also wondering if they have been careful not to name Sam's condition because it might actually be a side effect of what is happening to him in the Woods. Especially because people would compare his puppet thing to Black Noir and that was all due to a severe head injury.

Sam is supposed to be the hulk him jumping is a good point on how strong he is soldier boy is capt america, and homelander is superman I think sam can grow even stronger, and homelander hasnt trained himself but soldierboy is def strong af and a perfect soldier

Marie has the opportunity to develop into a blood witch being able to silently control anyone at her will so this could be the best power of them all

He has the potential but Soldier boy has better strength, nuke ability, experience, anti-aging and a very tactical thinking. Sam was tortured in the woods and what he only became by the ending of gen v, was just a monster. There is no way of Sam surpassing him as of current situations., given the fact that Sam has no self thinking power and does what only influences him temporarily. Besides, I think Sam will die in upcoming seasons, judging from the way his character growth is going.

They're in the wooooooods

Soldier boy cause not only is he more in control but he has more skills and experience in combat plus he can remove the powers of others And Sam is a schizophrenic with superpowers might’ve been stronger than his brother, even though he’s one of the most powerful super I think Soulja Boy would win based on combat experience loan and better coordination. Plus he supposed to be the strongest superhero in the world back in the 80s.

We are thinking as an individual we should be thinking as a team. It will take more than one to smoke homie.

Soldier Boy needs a hefty dose of that novachuck gas before he falls, so he has some resistance to it.

Will Cindy be on gen V, I really can't wait to see her! Sam vs Cindy would be an interesting fight.

Soldier Boy and Sam is really interesting match but this would be a great battle tho especially with Sam young age and Soldier Boy longevity if they do come across each other in a The Boys and Gen V crossover somewhere down the line plus Soldier Boy and Sam r some of my favorite characters from The Boys Universe I would love to see this match up but since same is like 18 to 19 I think over the course of the Gen V series he will stronger and probably capable of hold his own but I gotta give it to Soldier Boy bc Yk but I’m really hoping we get a Soldier Boy v Sam someday in The Boys Universe.

Till we see more of Sam, soldier boy no diffs him. Soldier boy is stated lots of times to be on homelanders league of power and can possibly even kill homelander, soldier is in contention of being in the top 2 supes in the verse. Going by the fact Sam was having trouble against a bunch of college students and we actually seen a needle get used on him which shows he isn't fully invincible I don't think there is any to stop soldier from one punching him.

I agree❤❤

I think them making a direct comparison to Maeve is intended for us to assume he's as strong as her But his mental instability probably makes him vulnerable

I want to see Soldier Boy vs Dean Winchester.

I personally think Caites abilities are temporary on Sam due to how powerful he is

Well Soldier boy would win because he have more battle experience but if Sam gets battle experience he could be a real menace and second we still don't know if his strength is his only power but the mental illness makes it hard for him to use

I’d have assumed Sam was closest to Noir. Especially with the puppet motif used to communicate their broken psyches (something that leads me to believe he’ll become Noir’s successor in TB s4)

Sam and Golden boy looks like SoldieBoys kids... They have Soldier Boys abilities

HOLY SHI i figured out, gen v hinted it so nicely when i rewatched it marries powers are really strong and she doesnt know it yet, remeber when she completely revived that girl from the nightclub, MARIE WILL BRING BACK GOLDEN BOY FROM THE DEAD, his not dead. she can use her powers and bring back his body completely as also saw straight after Golden Boy died his room every single thing was cleaned out and collected I wonder what for Don't forget general public thought SOLDIER BOY WAS DEAD FOR SO MANY YEARS

I think the longer Sam is away from the woods the stronger Sam will become. The last episode showed them using Sam to boost golden boy and the puppet visions , though hilarious I think it's a side effect of the meds/captivity, Cate brain washing and so on. The longer Sam is not being treated and drugged the stronger he'll get.

He went straight through everyone of them to get to Kate. Even when Marie hit him with the blood rope he was smart enough to defend by just twisting back the other way to completely counter it. I’m starting to really believe he isn’t crazy and what ever they have been doing to him has his mind fractured. I’m hoping we get a same badass Sam. He is definitely the funniest character on the show with some of the shit that comes out of his mouth.

I'm going to have to see more from Sam before I could compare him to the likes of Homelander and Solder Boy. Right now he just seems similar to Kimiko or maybe Queen Mave without the training. Seems every super has some level of super strength and durability in The Boys universe. It shouldn't be this way because it makes everyone with only these powers seem underwhelming.

I could see Sam being the next black noir

Soldier Boy is a supe with military background, combat training and experience fighting other supes, Sam is strong sure but unstable, if that strength were to be channeled and focused, then he'd been in the mix with the big dogs.

I wonder who would win this fight Sam vs Ryan

i woulda said hes more like noir since they both see fictional characters and also seem to have the exact same powers as far as ive noticed

I don’t think there’s enough on Sam yet to get a gauge on his power level yet.

Soldier Boy stomps this crazy wimp

If the super strength works as an “increased muscles density-capability” then Sam could be way stronger than he is after being kept frail and skinny in the Woods. He could get to lifting boulders and cars and get more meat on his bones he could definitely compete with the top dogs.

I’m going to go with Sam , he already matches up well and I think there’s a few more “Unique” powers he’s got Hopefully we’ll see these by the end of S1

He's literally forgets that the girl told him you don't feel any thing power's.

I think Sam is going to be new Black Noir in new season. I am not sure Black Noir is dead but Homelander doesnt let join him to Seven again. Also in the comics black noir is a clone of homelander and Sam has got powers in a lab like Homelander.

Could sam and his brother be soldier boys sons like homelander

Is this actually a question/debate? 😅

This is the basis for the boys…the idea that the supes are so strong and famous….yet sooooo fucked up in the head. And the contrast between homelander and butcher, actual proving them more and more alike is what drives the story.

SB ofc

Tbh I think Sam is way more powerful then what they have shown imagine this was in the future and was queen moves and homelanders kid 99.9% chance of not happening but imagine if it did. But he was so powerful and I think he is invilnerable to all things because if that’s all his abilities then he is just queen maveeee.

actor reminds me of Evan Peters 😍

I'm pretty sure even Starlight could wipes the floor with Sam come on...

How can I say this I think there’s three levels to durability like armor plates in cod in first place the strongest ability comes mostly from homelander and soldier boy being in the same level then we have the second spot up there ability, which is the second strongest, which would consistent, queen Maeve, and blacknoir and then we go to third place where they’re still strong, but not as strong as the rest of them, which has to do with a train and the deep and probably put starlight there to Sam is on the level of Maeve most of the students here are nowhere close to being soldier boy the butchers and homelander‘s level

Sam hasn’t hurt any innocent people so far in this show. Dr. Cardoza might be the worst one so far, it’s a shame they stopped him.

Sam got incapacitated by a tazor. Soldier Boy smoked halothane straight from the grenade.

Unless he's invulnerable, SB would win, easily. Thing is, SB isn't just strong he's also invulnerable. Sam's blows would do nothing whereas SB's punches would be causing actual damage.

Its odd to me that this is even a discussion. Its like comparing Black Noir to Homelander. Yeah... Noir has superhuman strength and durability, but nothing compared to Homelander. Homelander put his hand straight through his chest and pulled out Noirs heart, but didn't even bruise Soldier Boy. There's no way a bunch of guys in tack gear would be able to take down Solider Boy. Hell, a room full of supers couldn't take down soldier boy without poisoning him. Sam is contained by concrete walls. Soldier boy would tear through those walls like paper. This isn't even a discussion to be had

as of all current feats ....soldier boy...

Yea its a one way beating on sams end

I'm kinda disappointed that Sam doesn't have any of the fire powers his brother has but he's still pretty cool.

Anybody else think Sam might be a young clone of Soldier Boy???

I think its sam who's going to snap homelander neck

Honestly a better match up wld be sam vs black noir

I definitely think Sam could give Soldier Boy and Homelander a big run in terms of pure strength

Solider boy out classes the likes of homelander without being able to fly. I feel we need to see more strength feats from Sam to properly scale him. Could likely go toe to toe with SB, but will lose to lack of experience.

One is a kid, and the other is a soldier who been in the game 100 years without aging. Hmmmmm....soldier boy of course! One blast from his chest and Sam loses his powers

Sam, Soldier Boy, Homelander, los tres tienen algo en común: son espantaviejas. En eso son igual de poderosos.

Im calling it now sam and golden boy are the offspring of homelander/ soldierboy

Homelander is the epitome of power within the series, still by far the strongest. Soldier Boy could easily come up second since he was able to go toe-to-toe with him and did it even better than Queen Maeve who was seen as the next strongest before him. Sam is incredibly powerful, but I don't see him surpassing those top 3.

soldier boy wins he has more experince hes virtually in destructable i mean the guy can take a nuclear explosion and yes i know it comes from hom but still a feat hes pretty much immune/ has build a resistance to most toxins soldier boy in mentally stable sure he has ptsd but honestly it kinda works in his favor rather than against him if he blows up

Sam is the male version of queen Maeve

Sam is able to get his skin pierced by metal while soldier boys can survive nukes like his son homelands cause their neck in neck with power plus soldier boy can just take his power with the chest blast

What's hilarious is how you all are trying to compare a super with super human strength who's only demolished regular people (hes never ripped other supers apart), versus a super (Soldier Boy) who's went toe to toe against Homelander. It's quite absurd. Now Sam vs Queen Mave or Sam vs Jordan would make more sense. He's probably beating Jordan outright. And He'd either lose or tie with QM. But to put him in the claas Soldier Boy?? Get real!

I imagine Sam’s powers more on the level of Kimikos tbh

How is this even a video? Obviously soldier boy would crush him!

Soldier boy is nearly homelander level strong and also the strongest man in the world in his time.. Don't forget about the chest blast power

A teenage boy vs a veteran soldier?

Soldier boy can literally fry the gen v out of your system. Let’s b fr

I think Sam can be compared to Qween Maeve more than Soldier boy and Luke can be compared more to Soldier boy mostly because of his Nuclear energy

I think Sam is either homelander or soldier boy level strong. And imagine of soldier boy have training to Sam. And why Sam is unstable is it because ov V or he was always like that

I think Sam is roughly equal to Noir, but if we want to be generous, close to maeve. But Soldier boy is proven to be stronger than Noir by quite a bit, and at least slightly above maeve.

This would be a fight I would love to see, 2 heroes with some psychotic mental illness fighting each other!

Sam, soldier boy and black noir may be around the same strength

Soldier boy was almost homelander level and isn't it said that homelander could tank all weapons on earth? Sam got taken out by a tazer. They were also able to put Sam to sleep meanwhile soldier boy smoked the gas like a vape.

Sam was knocked out by a taser in the last episode of gen v

Solider boy easy

you guys know there’s a difference between enhanced and super human strength right. please use the word correctly

Even if sam is stronger soldier boys beam literally takes out the power from supes, he can literally kill homelander if he directs the blast at him

Sam literally got electrocuted unconscious, and the gas thing is Soldier Boy's only exploitable weakness for Sam to use, so its not even close.