AARON That’s not the point. He’s complaining about them currently, and currently a lot of Gen Z are under the age of 18. Hell, the youngest are 5. The problem is what he’s implying, things like entitlement and being whiny but Gen Z are kids, then yeah, they will act like that because they’re kids. And don’t get me wrong, I say this as an older member of Gen Z, who is an adult. (2000)
@@duckydae I can agree that Gen Z is probably pushing it concerning the ages you've mentioned. More like "I-Gen" or "Gen Y" that I'm thinking of. Any one representing the early 20's to late 20's. I'm Gen X. To me, most of the age group between 20-29 (and maybe slightly further depending) is a generation of entitled and whiny people, lmfao! Seems like every one is so sensitive nowadays...afraid of independence and self accountability. It isn't about "back in my day" but seriously...most in that age bracket doesn't know what "tough times" mean. The last 2 decades have been an extreme "cush zone" lol
DuckyDae X yeah it’s like geez I’m only 14. I am past my 12 year old stage of cursing each and every word( trust me guys we all go through that phase), but I’m still just a kid!
it just shows that they still think of “young people” as millennials and forget that gen z is literally mostly minors right now. Why should they act “grown up”?
@@pedroloto 19 you're still a teenager, not a kid but really not an adult either. The brain doesn't stop maturing until 25 iirc and there's so much maturity you gain during the time from completing HS and going into adulthood and working. It's a weird age, really.
The reason why everyone like Bill is because Bill is the only one who refuses to live his life according to a label. Bill isn't a "Baby boomer" he's just a man interested in humanity and listening to others, everyone else is too defensive about a label that they've chosen to define them
And I think that’s what gen z’s values are about. About listening to other perspectives, learning about them and accepting that it is okay to be different. We see bill as one of our own
@@evepalace7371 yes, when i argue, sometimes i try to change peoples minds if i think they have harmful beliefs, but if they arent homophopic, racist, ect., i usually try to understand more. As long as they dont start insulting me, im respectful to and i place my focus on trying to get them to understand me and i try to understand them.
@@starrynight1165 But the problem is that harmful, at least when discussing beliefs, is very often subjective. And honestly believe it or not most things we try to put in a box is subjective.
Aren't we standing up for other people's rights and adapting to the way the world is with tech today. It's ok in a while they will see our value. We haven't done much of anything yet because we're young.
yet they say "well yoyr young you can handel it" or " your too young to do etc" yet get mad when we realise our age and accept it and then they act up like"well you just dont wanna grow up"
@@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod there unreasonable don't let them get to you. They will never see your point of view because we've all lived in different times.
"Older generations create problems for the younger generations have to solve." Isn't that just a fact? How can you disagree with that? Any problem an older generation makes that they don't solve is a problem that the younger generation has to solve.
Sure but boomers grew up with immense amounts of economic privilege and did in fact vote and take action in ways that ensured their children and grandchildren would enter serfdom. They're really the first generation to take economic wealth from their kids as opposed to ensuring that their kids could build upon it
I think at least for me there's a frustration level with older generations create problems for the younger generations to solve because they often times have the solution they just chose not do it because politics and people who refuse to see the issue as a problem in the first place
Yep, isn’t it cool and fun when someone doesn’t get offended easily ? The younger generation could learn a thing or two....but they won’t. They will just say “ok boomer” and call it a day.
lwst82 You just showed us how easily u guys get offended. Just laugh about the phrase Ok boomer and call it a day. Don’t have to make it such a big deal
Bill calling out the fact that hard work doesn’t get you anywhere these days is so nice to hear. The amount of time I heard “just work harder” in response to my circumstances is ridiculous. If I had worked harder at the time, I probably would have ended up in the hospital as I already really sick from overwork.
Boomers often dismiss Millennials and Gen Z when we complain about making 20% less than our parents, having to pay twice as much for a house (adusting for inflation), tuition costs, etc... If Boomers have the gall to complain about us complaining an “okay, Boomer” is more than warranted.
@@nirley6960 that’s true, I’m 14 and right now I have to work more on school than my mom ever had to, and according to her we also have to learn more and more difficult things
The way Bill listens with the gen z's he actually/genuinely listens And not saying "i understand what you're saying but-" He listens and he adjusts, that's the boomer that we stan
From a European perspective it is always bizarre to hear Americans decrying a very basic social system as "communism". A decent minimum wage, national health insurance and labour unions are completely normal to most European countries and that certainly does not make them communist. Outside of the American bubble, these things are considered basic human rights. It's nice to see that Gen Z, growing up in a more connected world, recognizes this.
Same bro. I was so thrown off when one of his ‘values’ was just anti communism. Like what? Bro there are other things to fixate on. Go hate the nazis or smth.
@@tabbyp1358 because communism is literally civilization killing. socialism is not its like a mild communism which is fine imo. there should only be a mildness of both sides. that's what makes our country great. we are not absolute in either. because extreme of either is civilization killing.
Literally as a russian it always makes me laugh bcz ik that its just the result of red scare anti communist/anti russian propaganda. That guy didn't say why he dislikes communism he just sees it as some inherently evil thing with no real context.
You can tell in Bill's eyes that when someone talks he is listening intently. He isn't the listening so he can say something, he is listening so he can try to understand what they are saying. What he says after that is meant to help him understand and to voice what he believes while keeping in mind that the other person has their own central beliefs.
Of course, he's a creative type, a writer and obviously a deep, critical thinker. Truly a beautiful man, if only he wasn't gonna be a stranger to us all in a few months as fast celebs come and go. I'd love to read some of his work, though.
I feel like Gen Z in their teens versus Gen Z in their 20s have a different set values at the start. If there was a 17 year old that would've made this video more interesting.
Not sure about that - I'm in my late teens and agreed with a lot of what Corinne was saying. Although I can see young teens/tweens having a different perspective (those years can be strange)
@@CR-hu1db Right! I totally can relate to my life to some things that the Gen Z was saying. Although I'm close with a very good friend who is in his 20s, and trust me, our values our so different, and yet we're are in the same gen. That's why I had that feeling that this video wasn't a complete representation on the Gen Z side.
Kentren Yeh To an extent yes, but you’ve got to realise is that these kids are now dealing with the real world, majority of seventeen-year-old’s are not. Which means their views will be placed within reason as day-to-day they will be dealing with bills, full-time jobs, taxes and voting just like boomers.
So true. But we actually evolve with every generation so the next generation is technically more advanced and intelligent than us because they know all what we know and more. On the other hand, older generation has already experienced life, so they are wiser than the new generation it's just that not all their values will work because societies tend to change with time, so while younger generation should absolutely listen to the older generation, they should also work on creating a better world.
I mean they're not wrong, gen zs are the most educated gen yet because education is no longer seen as a privilege compared to the previous generations. Also, with the appearance of the Internet and digital world, you can practically search for anything on the internet right now. Wiser because experience, they have lived longer and have experienced more than what the gen after has. However, it can be hit or miss with how the society is constantly evolving.
You are right. But this is the first generation that is raised on social media. So we are going to see real differences between them and past generations, and yes a lot of negative differences.
@@wxlfie2 the problem is I have asked people "why do you believe that?" and they have straight up refused to explain their thoughts making excuses like "you wouldn't understand / you would argue it anyway" like give me a chance, we will see, but I think with social media... these kids often just repeat talking points and its not even truly their own opinions they are just repeating. so I don't think people should get much credit for their opinions unless they can actually back up why they have them
Corinne and Bill are probably two of the best casting decisions I've seen Middle Ground make. Articulate and empathetic people who are willing to listen and gently explain their perspectives.
Corinne kind of blammed baby boomers for the lack of LGBT rights which they actually fought for. That was kind of a facepalm moment, but she was right to say that history repeats itself
@@HellShoot Maybe I'm self-congratulatory here for my age group, but I think that has more to do with Gen X and older (voting age) Gen Zers than the Boomers. Unfortunately, there's still a lot of work to do. I'm really grateful when I see how open-minded the young people I know are.
No, they like him because he is receptive to outside ideas and can disagree with them without being arrogant or demeaning. It's a great trait to have but is unfortunately very rare across all generations. I'd like to be more like Bill.
I don't trust older people who "aren't sure if younger people value human lives" or think America has allowed "communism to thrive". How blinded by nostalgia can you be?
bro i fkn love bill. he’s so woke. born a boomer with a gen z mindset. he even laughed at the baby boomer joke. like gen z laughs at everything. he needs to be verified on social media period
Ok, blacks is not an appropriate term to use for a population of people. I get what you’re trying to say but black people is a much better term as opposed to blacks
Bill's a gay liberal. Like why wouldnt he be. Now if Bill was a conservative straight guy that was somehow miraculaously able to sympathize with the Gen Z'ers then that woulda been impressive and a plot twist. Instead, what we see here is people preaching to the choir of Bill. The only thing that makes Bill different from them is his age.
I like how Bill not only listens to the speaker to respond but he listens to gain perspective of why the other speaker thinks that way. This makes his response stronger.
@@JesusPerez-pe8vk he's double talking, the great boomer quantity>quality communication problem. he didn't offer a single solution for anything, learn to listen for content.
@@JesusPerez-pe8vk for clarity I'm close to his age and I'm a vegan with bike because global warming is a serious problem, and all he does is get morbidly obese so you have to pay for his medical bills on top of everything else.
We need to talk more about Corrine in the comment section tho, she was well spoken, wise beyond her years, and in need of a hug with all that passion and awareness she's carrying lol.
”OK Boomer” is a phrase to belittle and dismiss some old person who is close-minded just like ADULTS do the same thing to kids by saying “You don't know anything, you're too young” Basically, it's small revenge to adults who were condescending, indifferent, and dismissive.
@@amandaevans3235 except that people are capable of complex critical thinking from the age of about 11? We might not have the same level of life experience but we're having to deal with environmental stress that y'all never took seriously.
Matt S-J As I said concerning the given situation the older you are the more knowledgeable you become therefore my knowledge base concerning most things is much broader than someone twenty years younger. And please if you’re going to argue about knowledge please give a valid argument on something instead of making an assumption. I do not fit into the boomer category for one and number 2. I was born in 1980 and my generation was the one that began the movement about climate change. So nothing you said has any validity to it. My generation was the last before technology became the go to for everything. Your generation is so spoiled and dependent on technology that it seems to me this is not an assumption solely my opinion that your generation Connor form a singular independent thought of your own making you simply parrot what you’ve been told or what you’ve heard without doing your own research
Whoa! Corrine and Bill should have their own podcast. The way they express themselves, show empathy and try to understand another's perspective being so different from one another would be soooo encouraging.
Aashna Poduval As someone born in 2000 Im kinda glad they got some older GenZ since most things I have seen on Gen Z uses teens and kids. But you're right we are a diverse group they should've had some younger people and (no offense) maybe one gen z that wasn't LGBTQ just to switch up the opinions more.
@@janethebluemouse Well, to be fair, you guys are more likely to be associated with millennials. There's only less than a 5 year age Gap between those Gen Z kids and millennials. Now, it would be a lot different if they had the perspective of a high schooler.
Adrianna Arcuri i don’t think so gen z is between 1995-2010 and if that was the case it was not so long ago was 18 in 2018 the millenialls are now 26 and earlys 40 you can check if you want
gen z is typically split up from older gen z (1997 to 2005)(the first connected) and younger gen z (2006 to 2012)(the technology inherent) I'm 2003 so I'm in the middle and would relate to both sides of the spectrum.
The purple penguin Well by including at least one lgbtq person it really makes it more diverse and makes me feel like we’re normalizing it I mean that’s the whole goal of lgbtq is to have it normalized and more accepted.
Connie said the exact things I would think with questions and it made me so happy that there are so many others who see the problems with certian questions and I loved it.
Corrine is definitely a well worded person but is definitely misled in terms of things that she believes is correct. However, I do agree with some of what she believes.
@@Bhuges801 I could care less about any backstory and thanks cause I don't need you "arguing" with me... There are many words that have awful backstories and one of two things happen to them. They're either never or very rarely used. Or they're over used and lose all the power that the awful backstory gave them. The N word however, for some reason can be used by anyone with a designated skin colour, even if they're *not from the US*, which is where its demeaning usage really began. All I'm saying is, if you make it okay for people with a certain percentage of melanin in their skin to say, it everyone should be able to say. Or no one should.
Ethan dude I’m 21 years old and was called the n word yesterday lol. Do you know what I’d do to be called a boomer when people got mad at me instead of that. 🙃🙃🙃🙃
THANK YOU!!!! My dad always tells me your generation this and your generation that and its hard to explain to him that he is talking about 2 completely different generations. 1 generation is soft and likes to fit in and be well liked while the other is very much “im like this and if you don’t like it get out of my face” (these are ofc stereotypes but most people that i have seen in these two generations are exactly like that)
like after seeing gen z get shot and tear gassed, then pick up the tear gas with their bare hands to throw it back, i don’t want to hear from someone who probably flaps a hand at wearing a piece of fabric on their face :)
As a Gen Z, you can't know how I can be proud of the older population. They don't know what we know, but we don't know what they knew. I had grandparents that I couldn't met, bit if I did, I would spend a lot of times with them, I don't understand how this generation can be disrespectful towards their grandparents and the older population in general
The disrespect Usually happens when the older generation puts down the youth telling them to grow up and stuff to put them down but I can see what your trying too say
I'm 13 and I've personally been called childish online. Funny how I'm childish because I watch Kurzgesagt but they aren't being childish when they start swearing over a political argument.
I'm 12, but last year I remember being playing with my friends at a park and some random adult passed by us and said "what are you doing? You are not supposed to play at your age. Go date and build a life"... I was 11... what was I supposed to do? Get married and get a job?
A humanist potato Childish is more of a mindset or behavior. Simply because you are aware of certain concepts doesn’t mean you aren’t able of being childish.
Corrin is so well spoken and I loved hearing her point of view. I loved everyone’s perspective and the respect between each other. Love this channel so much!
@@PatsliTVif they're using the term correctly it means it's the nature of your opinions to don't matter, like if a fundamental characteristic of your opinions was that they don't hold any value (basically ultra boomer mentality lol)
my_lifeisa_sham oh, thanks, I googled it, and wasn’t sure if I fully understood the context. Because that was basically the point of my comment right. Her reasoning made no sense
@@8xCAjbSk5O i don't think high school has changed that much, boomers turned schools into shooting ranges before 2017. boomers also defunded public schools, something no other generation has done.
Josh23 There are more well-spoken teenagers that are out there such as myself. The media just portrays most of us as slang using illiterates which sadly, some of us conform to that standard.
To me, "Ok, Boomer" is a response to the people who dismiss the fact that us, younger people, are capable of formulating our own thoughts, ideas, opinions and beliefs, solely because we are younger. "Ok, Boomer" is giving up arguing because what's the point of trying to get my point across if you're going to completely dismiss the possibility that I might be right.
@Mana G They want us to act mature but they think that we are too young to understand racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.. they want us to stay silent about important topics
@@itsjustme7614 ikr! It's honestly so demotivating. I used to be a lot more active and wanted to participate in change a lot more. But now I'm scared shitless to even talk in response and actually SAY what I'm thinking. The only place I can ever speak my mind is on the internet smh..
“genz has peter pan syndrome” um no. we have to grow up at a young age to help with money, handle divorces of parents, deal with anxiety and depression, go through an awful school system, and more. a lot of genz heard “you’re so grown up for your age” because we have been forced to. and when we can finally take a break we want to catch up on what we post in childhood. we don’t have peter pan syndrome. we want to know what a normal childhood is.
Brighteye21 it’s so sad that this is true. Ever since quarantine started, I’ve started to have extreme anxiety, a fact the fact that my mom thinks it’s a mindset is not helping. I’ve gone through extreme bullying, and nobody did anything. The most she got is a warning, and quarantine triggered that sense of loneliness. Thank god that my dad is understanding, but I can’t really help that fact that I haven’t felt as much happiness as I used to. I don’t really remember what pure happiness is at the moment. I want the make a change in the world, but nobody’s giving me my shot. Thankfully I have great teachers now to help me along the way. Stay safe whoever’s reading this.
What? You must have a shitty household situation because I'm a genz and I haven't dealt with any of this. You're acting like all gen z's have massive anxiety and deppression when this is simply not the case
When she said "somewhere between you all and us, things have changed" I was like, it was us. Millennials. I believe we were the first generation to question everything we were taught because we grew up with the rise of social media.
@@got_glintsp963 if you read it properly I said millenials grew up with the 'rise of social media'. Massive difference in understanding when you were exposed to it in primary school vs gen X being exposed at a later stage.
Actually, I would consider the boomers to be the ones to question everything. Boomers where teenagers and 20 year Olds during the Vietnam War meaning that some of them would've been hippies and joined the protests against the war. And they dealt with parents and older people disapproving of everything they've done.
@Ashley Spurling ok boomer isn't ageist because it's not "I don't care about you because you're old" it's "I can't continue to argue with you so I will dismiss you the way you dismissed me"
I think we all can agree to the question that older gen always leave problems which might be fixed by the younger generation . Because everyone creates a problem which gradually gets solve.
Boomers : *constantly talks bad about younger generations, wanting to be respected but not respecting others, gives an eight hour speech for not having the same opinion as them, etc.* Gen z : ”ok boomer” Boomers : *shocked* ”excuse me that is very disrespectful--”
I noticed how nobody asked us gen x ers our opinion. We have known these sorry waste of spaces our entire lives and in some cases two thirds of theirs we remember how much better the depression era folks were then these narssistic jerks so we actually have a great basis for comparison.
“I think that harping on generational disparities is not only incredibly ignorant, but also totally counterproductive in the sense that each generation’s struggles are an opportunity to grow instead of displacing blame on one’s predecessors like idiots” …nobody but me? Oh, okay.
@@iidakumpulainen2357 that is the stupidest sentence I've ever read. What do you mean they cant express themselves or that they have nothing to say? Of course they do🙄
Humans rights for all unless they’re mentally insane and belong in a mental hospital, which there is a lot of people who belong in a mental hospital, just go to Los Angeles or San Francisco.
“Gen z has the Peter Pan syndrome, they don’t ever want to grow up” Well by the looks of things and how bad the boomers ruined this planet we probably won’t be able to
