@@Donkeh1_64 Possibly a bit of confused approval. I don’t speak Australian so Though i’ve heard of people mixing positive and negatives, i’m not positive what was said. But if you’re avoiding negative confrontations, speaking Australian might be an amusing way out.
I'm italian and genderfluid, I live in a small conservative town and people honestly are really judgemental, for example, when I dress more masculine I'm kinda used to be called slurs etc, but trust me, not all cities in Italy are like this
Would you mind to tell me what gender is? I understand it for objects, but I am failing to see what it means for humans other than biological sex. I am from a country with a gender neutral language. So when you are gender fluid, one day you are a biological male the other day a female? Is that correct? I am not messing with you, I just don't get it..
So with sex, you are pretty much either male or female. I think there are exceptions but I'm not confident saying what they are. Gender is how you identify. Most people who are biologically female will identify socially as female. Most people who are biologically male will identify socially as male. Some identify as the gender opposite to their sex (transgender). Some identify as neither (I think that's non-binary) or they may identify as female one day and then male another day (gender fluid).
@@bellamee2775 Identify socially as female? You are either a biological female or not. This nonsense just doesn't work where societies didn't develop gender in their languages. And there are quite a few of them. Gender nonsense is automatically falsified by those languages. It is like stating that gravity works differently in Europe than in Asia.. total nonsense.. What we are talking about is simply gender (sex) dysphoria, hence when you undergo 'gender affirming care', you only option is to choose the opposite biological sex.
Sorry to hear about your cancer. Hopefully you are well. One question, though. Why do some lesbians choose to be as you say “ butch”? Does this influence the type of lesbians that you date? Just asking.
butch lesbian usually just refers to a more masculine/androgynous presenting lesbian. the opposite would be a femme which means a more feminine presenting lesbian (I think-- if any of this information is wrong, feel free to correct me)
I'm italian and at least in the place I live in people absolutely don't give a sh1t about what you wear. Like, I'm non-binary but no one ever cared if I dress like a boy or a girl. There's only one teacher that constantly moks me because I dress boyish (I'm FAAB) and constantly tells me "If you continue to act boyish you'll never get a boyfriend" and I swear the next time she says that I'll tell her "In fact I'll get a girlfriend" Apart from that and my grandma thet keeps saying that I look cute in dresses no one cares
That's creepy, why a teacher would tell you that, why they care about your relationship I'm Italian too and avrei dovuto scriverlo in italiano effettivamente
then you were very lucky. I'm Italian and cisgender, and everyone has ever had something to say about the way I dress, for my entire life. Too boyish, too shabby, not feminine enough, not graceful enough, and so on and so forth. With everyone I mean parents, relatives, teachers, even random strangers approaching me in the street!
@@sugar706capita anche a me HAHAHA faccio l università in inglese, e siamo 50/50 italiani e stranieri, quando capita di parlare on un italiano in inglese è super awkward
My aunt and uncle are like that "guys should only have short hair, girls should only have long" but they don't realize not that long ago it was completely normal for guys to have long hair and in many cultures today long hair on guys is perfectly normal
I've had these conversations with my trans teen. We live in California and had been thinking about moving out of state but the way our country is heading at this point, we are staying put. I don't want my kid to suffer more because of the ignorance of others.
While true about the fact that it's not illegal, it's still can be quite dangerous to dress masculine as a woman in some places in europe, Albania for example is a vast majority Sunni Muslim nation and so people who don't allign to gender norms are at risk.
If you move to Ireland we can confirm your safety when it comes to clothing..... One little tip tho do not under any circumstances trust our government... They real nasty
@@kasity going to a different country, culture and they expect you to adhere 100% to their culture and ideas would also be bigoted. You shouldn't be at risk for simply existing anywhere, but in some places you are. Good that in most countries and cultures it's custom to be respectful even if you don't know much about the other
God I wish my parents were like this..... I'm trans but they refuse to let me cut my hair, wear masculine clothing, or generally 'act boyish'. I managed to sew myself a chest binder, but I have to hide it from then at home and put it on once I've gotten to school so that they don't see it 😢
one of the major problems we have here in italy is rhat we don't have gender neutral pronouns and yeah, a lot of italian (especially older generations) are conservative and also a lot of youngster make fun of queer people (we are a bit messed up, but we all try our best, i hope)
In Italy there are some towns where you'll see most of the women in dresses but 99% of the time they won't mind you being you, we don't have many homofobic people in Italy so don't worry too much 😊😊
@@Kaybee76 You're confusing agender and non-binary. Non-binary is when you feel like you have a gender but it not male or female. Agenger is when you feel like you don't have a gender. So non-binary people can experience gender euphoria
@@keriissovery9566 yes, actually. Their rights are getting taken away and the number hate crimes have increased(in my area it’s increased by 200%, I lived in a peaceful town, not anymore)
@@eli_h309the crime against lgbtq might be so high because the community try to include every single person in it . Shit it is literally called the alphabet soup for a reason
"Girls are only allowed to wear dresses" Plenty of Italians can be backwards but the are no places like that. Right? People can make comments, but that's it.
That's right. Some places are more conservative than others, but girls and women are to be found in jeans all over the place. You just have to be stylish, fare bella figura!
From what I know of Italy and Greece, they tend to be fairly chill with a lot of different clothes choices (or lack of clothing choices) near the beaches. That said the LGBT stuff seems to be more of an issue recently in Italy
Mi spiace se la gente ti tratta male, non te lo meriti! Non credo proprio che ci sia un posto dove alle donne è obbligatorio indossare un abito femminile e i capelli lunghi, nel video esagerano proprio, ma detto questo spero che alle prossime elezioni ci liberiamo di questi bigotti neofascisti del caxxo e che lascino la gente lgbtqa+ in pace. Spero che la tua famiglia ed it tuoi cari ti siano di sostegno e che tu possa vivere serenamente
I *hate* wearing skirts and will only wear them for events that I absolutely have to (like, a photo shoot with a dying family member) due to ✨️trauma✨️ and I will only wear long length dresses with leggings underneath. So I'd be walking down the street like "Are you a man?" "Yep" "Are you a woman?" "Yep" "What's your gender?" "Yep" (I'm a cis woman)
I was raised in a conservative town and everyone was polite and respectful to each other. No one cared about wether your hair was long or short, what clothes you were wearing etc. I think it should be put out there that conservatism isn’t always a bad thing. ❤
No they weren't in public maybe not behind closed doors... I lived in a conservative state with conservative family they said they were ok with LGBTQ people until they got behind closed doors then they beat the shit of anyone who was slightly queer
That's nice to hear :) ❤ We forget about the good ones sometimes. Unfortunately some small towns are still unfriendly toward gays and gender non-conforming
Except conservatism aims to reduce people's rights, which is inherently a bad thing. Not all CONSERVATIVES are bad people, many are just misguided, but that doesn't mean that conservatism, an ideology based on restricting people's right to self-expression, is ever a good thing
I know I have conservative libertarian parents and I appreciate how I was raised. I hate how MAGA people are treated as these wild creatures instead of just people with different political views
To a Northen European it sounds a bit off to think Europe is more 'conservative' than the US. This might be the land- of- freedom-bs you're fed, talking. Welcome to Europe and see for yourselves. You might get kind of surprised to know you have issues with information and the reality of things in your country. Not other countries.
There are some very deeply conservative parts of Italy, you have to remember this is the country that has elected fascist leadership to office twice now.
@@annamaria9073 Yeah. No. Sorry. You've been missinformed. For more information (if you don't trust an European's word for it), follow people like University prof @usa.mom.in.germany. She's made videos on propaganda, laws, personal experience, politics, National Economy and more. You know, Europe is old, so old we are so past so much that US bicker and shoot each other over. Welcome over to see for yourself, if you like travelling.
I am italian and my father always loved me if i had very short hair as a girl… i am quite astonished from this video. Italians appreciate stilish outfit and would laugh about sandals with socks, Independent from gender. The mother cares much more of her family image as a Statement I suppose.
Enjoy Italy! We just got back a few weeks ago. Just be yourself. You look very respectably dressed here in the video. All people cover shoulders and knees in churches. The dress code was not gender specific, so just enjoy! Don't expect any problems. Oh, and the rainbow flags we saw in Italy say Pace. It means peace in Italian. Pronounced Pa chay. Since Italy is a Catholic country,, my guess was that to put the word pride ( number 1 on the list of the 7 seven deadly sins) would be considered very rude in their culture. So, yeah, we respected their culture, and they respected us. You will have a wonderful time! Pace!
I brought my rainbow fan into a church in italy and no one batted an eye. That made me feel really happy because where I actually live it would have been a different story.
In england secondary school girls had to wear skirts. No exception. I hated it but they refused to change the policy because thats always been the uniform
What is this? I'm kind of a pretty girl, guys like me, I have a higher education, a good job. The chance that this semblance of a man will somehow interest me is zero.
I was in Italy with school and we took the public bus om one of the days and the boys got told to protect the girls since harassment is a lot more common in Italy, it was a really wierd to think about that especially since in the Netherlands it doesn't happen all that often
I hope one day you find people you can be yourself around. You didn't specify your gender in here so I hope whatever you identify as you will find people who will love you unconditionally. Judging by the comment it doesn't look like you will come out so I hope until you are in a situation where it won't matter, that you will be able to express yourself somehow or in any way you can. I hate that people have to go through this.
italian teenager here, i live in a small village, most of the people here are old and a lot conservative, i dress both masc and fem, of them won't go talk to you directly but will talk with the whole village, i hear the elders hating on people with tatoo, piercing or dyed hair. Sometimes, friends of my family would point that i won't attract any men if i look like one, the cruel ones are the other teenagers and middle schoolers, they spread so much hate, honestly, i was scared going out dressed more feminine cause of them, they'll always find new insults. one the big city its more accepted, i see a lot of people express themselves without fear
I’m gender-fluid and I’m going to Spain in a couple days to visit some relatives. Nobody except me knows I am gender-fluid, so my mom got me a bunch of girly new clothes and dresses to wear, and I have told her that I don’t feel comfortable wearing that kind of clothing, but she immediately dismissed my words and said “I don’t want us to be the ‘ugly Americans.’” Seriously?!? I think I’m gonna need to come out to my mom soon, I am literally going nuts.
This is so not true😂 maybe if you go to isolated “paesini” (extremely small village with sometimes not even 100 residents well over 80 y/o) but no one gives a shit about what are you especially if you don’t know them/they aren’t your family
This is an issue my partner is now facing as she transitions (we are safe and in a very blue state, but there are now a lot of places that wouldn't be safe for us to go) my response is always the same, I don't want to go to a place that doesn't accept you. I don't want to give them my money. I wouldn't be able to relax and have fun if we were constantly worried about our safety. I have traveled and I know there are many beautiful places, and it does sadden me that were now more limited, but I blame the policies/area for not being welcoming or accepting. I'm glad the mom is making her child aware of what might happen, but personally my partner and I are just avoiding those places all together.
I look like a butch lesbian, I live in a small-sized city in northern Italy and I've never been harassed or called slur or anything like that in public. Nobody ever told me that I should wear feminine clothes or have long hair.
I'm a non binary masc that wears dresses and I've had the same talk with my parents when we go to more conservative places. My parents are loving and supportive but they warn me that certain places might be more hateful. They always tell me to bring a few backup pants and shirts and stuff that's more traditionally masculine.
no like every single place in italy is like that. every. place. (i cant get out of my house without getting glared at or called a lesbian by complete strangers)
As an Italian, I'm disgusted by my own country. Even if you wouldn't usually get any bad comment on how you dress, cus people don't really care, it's true that politically speaking, Italy is really conservative :(
I am Italian and I come from Palermo - deep south, where most of the people are very conservative, yet nobody will make comments because you are wearing trousers as a female or nothing similar :) so be relaxed, it's a myth, everybody is free to dress pretty much as they like all over Italy, we are not in the 30s anymore x)
I don’t know how “conservative” Italy is but if you were a parent who had a gay child why would you take them on holiday to somewhere that you think is extremely homophobic? Unless you don’t care about your kid…
Its considered pretty conservative and gets worse with small towns and how far north or south you are ...hate crimes do happen there even more so cuz Italy is known for being alcoholics
@@goreandhoodies3626Actually the only places where someone would comment or care about what tourists wear are remote villages that I doubt any tourist would ever visit. Yes, Italy is really backwards towards the LGBTQ+ Community but branding it as a dangerous place to visit for non binary people is absurd. Also, Italy is known for being alcoholics???? 😅 What?
@@goreandhoodies3626 'Italy is known for being alcoholics'???? What does that mean? Binge-drinking and public intoxication aren't really socially acceptable in Italy.
People in the comments, please remember not all conservatives are crazy extremists. It’s easy to see the extremists of any belief, be that political, religious, ect, and have those people define your view on that belief.
Yeah we tend to see the one that don't agree with us more bad (like conservative: KKK flat earthers catholic fanatic/liberals:blue haired girl woke mob member) but most people are pretty reasonable. "Don't judge a group by its most extreme member." -Persepolis
I hate trying to force myself to wear something specific because even being genderqueer it still changes, the feeling of nb/ fem/ masc? Some days all I want to wear is something specific but it's not clean and it makes me so uncomfortable to even wear the next best thing 🥲
My parents had a similar conversation with me when I went off to college. They told me people would call me names and try to silence me because I was a conservative. Turns out they were right. Meanwhile I've yet to meet a conservative who cares what clothes you wear or how you cut your hair.
Yeah, I’m italian and I’m a non-binary. In general you can receive this kind of comment from adults of past generations and/or olders. Sure, in little towns they are more close-minded, but you will never be alone
oh man these convos SUCK to have. mine boys are 10 and don't get why nail polish and stuff gets weird comments, and I always feel bad being like "no, no, I'll argue til I'm blue in the face for whatever you decide, but informed decisions are necessary"
They are your Parents & Present in your life because they are Conservative... Otherwise you'd be raised by a Single mom, OR not Exist in the first place, as LGBT rainbow don't even have Kids 😅
Yea nowadays people who used to be considered moderates get labeled as right wing extremists when they either don’t give a damn or their beliefs are not on either extreme side
personally as an italian and having a duel citizen ship we honestly don’t care. some parts of italy it’s more common to have short hair. and it’s actually not as “hated or different” there as some people face in the states
I respect your beliefs and i have no problem with mask lesbians or trans people but as a bi androgynous man whose village of origin is a 500 people one in greece i can say that if you want to be yourself in a place where the culture isnt like yours than you should either learn to take the negativity and move on or change yourself when youre there bcs its not the peoples job to accustom to your beliefs because youre the one invading their space i wish people whould mind their buisness but that very unrealistic in a vilage inviorment. All love and support but people really need to adapt to the culture of the place they’re visiting wether it hurts them of not
It's a nightmare in Eastern Europe - I'm currently trying to figure out things about myself, but calling someone gay or a girl is still a really common insult so you can guess how that combines with the fact I look really masculine
Italians don't really care about tourists clothing. Im trans (i haven't had any surgery or testosterone.) And they didn't say anything to me or about me. (If been to Italy 3 times. So 6 weeks in total.)
I love the angry people in this comment section they don’t know it boosts the algorithm probably because they’re too busy getting all pissed about these videos even know they are really fun to watch
I live in a very conservative part of Florida and nobody here gives a crap if you have short hair or wear different types of clothing. 😂 i DEFINITELY live around what you would consider "magas".... honestly everyone gets along so long as people are showing eachother mutual respect, and it's a very small town and extremely safe to walk around.
They dont care so much they elected legislators that want gender police all of the bathrooms... We had to go to our school board meeting to beg them to allow trans kids to use their correct name and pronouns at school, and we're in a more progressive county. They don't care until they do, and you never know if you're going to be the target if you're trans or gender nonconforming.
Hey, small town texas here. It just depends where you live. Ive definitely been to places people do care, and way too much. Most dont say it to your face. But they definitely make it obvious they do infact care.
The main issue with Italy are smaller towns, ofc there people are more conservative and stuff, and with this government the situation is getting worse, but bigger cities are mostly okay.. Anyway, i can hardly imagine anywhere in Italy where girls can only wear skirts and have to do make up.
If you're a grown up and you're that deeply effected by if people misgender you due to you choosing gender neutral clothing then you really need to re-evaluate your choices. It's not other people's job to guess correctly. It's their job to either accept you or leave you alone.
The person in this video is complaining about derogatory comments based on not being viewed as clearly feminine/masculine enough by people’s outdated standards. This has nothing to do with misgendering.
Sending you *hugs* sorry about your parents im sure you are an amazing person that anyone with an open mind and heart would be proud as hell to have you as their kid and give you the love and support you deserve in everything you choose to do *hugs*
Milan is a major LGBQTI embracing area in Italy, but this is not necessarily of the small towns. Additionally Premier Giorgia Meloni and her government is to the Far Right and considered to have been influenced in part by the American Maga movement's success and is seeking to roll back rights and seeks to break up same sex led families as well as place laws that are anti-Trans. There have been a number of news stories about this year.
I remember how my mom bought a bunch of dresses for my trans brother. For years i only knew him in dresses cause we older girls didnt want them and my mother wanted a princess. I always wanted a brother and when he grew older i gave him some of my neutral clothes to wear and he still wears some of them or we buy bandshorts together in unisex sizes.
