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In fact this riff became the outro to an obscure b-side from Rutherford's Smallcreep's Day, a song called "Compression." ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VBeNILIh2Do.html. It's a very good song.
This was one of Rutherford's bits. It ended up being the end section of "Compression", which was the non-album flipside of "Waiting in Line", the single taken from Mike's first solo album "Smallcreep's Day"
+plod - I have to admit that when I read what you wrote I at first thought you were hearing things, but indeed around the 4:00 mark it began to emerge and wound up being almost note-for-note. Good ear and I apologize for doubting you. You must be quite the fan to know of that song. I thought I was the only one. ; )
Truthfully, I only realized it myself when a fellow fan pointed it out a few years ago. I have several boots of the Lamb sessions, but never actually noticed it myself until my friend made me pull out this particular session and listen again. Of course then, I heard it right away. The sad part is you really have to be a dedicated Rutherford fan to even know the song it became: "Compression" , which was left off Smallcreeps Day and was only released as the flipside to "Working in Line". I only knew it because I found the single at a used shop in the 80's. I hope some day Mike re-releases it with the track added back in. It's a lovely piece, that could really use a good remix!
+plod - Yes I agree. Simon Phillips percussive work on that track(and indeed the entire album) is stunning. The song would have made a decent closing track to side 1(in America anyway, as on British copies, side 1 was the Smallcreep side). I found my copy of the single at a record convention in the mid-90s.
WHO CARES!!! PETER WAS A PRICK FOR LEAVING AND GENESIS BECAME A GAY POP BAND...........:" ,CAT SCRACH MY ASS, OH WHAT ISN'T IT SCRACH MY BACK OR ASS HOLE WHAT EVER YOU KNOW THAT ALBUM PETER MADE OVER AND OVER............ HAPPY THOUGHTS :)
2:52 Love this picture. Tony looks like he doesn't want to be there, Mike is the opposite and the most laid back as usual! It has been said before, but depending what facial hair 'mood' he was in, Phil looked the spit of Kurt Cobain at some points. Yes, Derek Smalls from Spinal Tap on the left :D
Wow this is very rare and it gives us an insight into how they did these sessions jamming i suppose they all had different ideas on how to collaborate wonderful stuff😊😊😊😊😊😊
The riff here was resurrected for Mike's song ''Compression'' that featured as a B Side to the song ''Working In Line''. from the ''Smallcreep's Day'' album. It was the closing riff to the song and fades after about a minute and a half. Great riff.
A month earlier I saw them by chance. Had nothing else to do. Me and my friend went. I didn't even know who they were at the time. Took some Microdot and was pleasantly surprised. Lol
Steve had such a unique sound. He wanted nothing to do with ‘shredding’ or showing off, just gently adding textures and making his instrument ‘yearn’ rather than ‘scream’. The band really lost its soul when he left.
I think what we're listening to here might just be the very early attempts at what later becomes an intro to "broadway melody of 1974" from Lamb Lies down on Broadway. Hackett's sitar like guitar lines and Collins crashing drums are very simliar in that piece.
I think Rutherford is playing the riff here and suspect it's his to start with. Yes, it's the outro to Compression all right! I remember finding the single with that B-side at a used record store when I was 18; I thought I was a mighty cool insider to have it...
wonderful to get some insight into their processes at the time, I wonder if they said, well? Let's all keep jammin to this section of the tune for about 8 or 16 bars, and just repeat as its recorded then all on committee decide the best and play that part like that in the official take... Is that what's going on here?
This is the part that ended up being the beautiful and tragic end section of Mike Rutherford's 'Compression'- a b-side from his album Smallcreep's Day. I SO wish he would re-release the song in some form. There seems to be ONE single horrible recording of it off of someone's record, playback pitch problems and all, that constitute any hits you get searching for it.
As for who was best - Phil or Peter? It was a draw. Both fantastic. What were the odds of them both being in the same band? These fellas, along with several others from their generation, have played such a massive part in my life. Queen, Genesis and Pink Floyd - thank you!
@petermayer: had the same thought. it sure sounds like that's mike with the sitar. or steve is playing both and this was not recorded live. but it sounds like the kind of theme mike would play.
Not bad at all! It really fits squarely into the "Selling England" songs. I wish it had become a song. Has to be Steve on Guitar. I wonder who overdubbed the electric sitar line.
Good spot (the 'riff'; not the...well you know). It's been awhile since I looked on the back of Selling England; to see credits who plays the electric sitar (on I know what I like). 'thought it was Hackett, maybe not. Here it's clearly, sort of Rutherford. This improv falls in line nicely, to give it a name. It's actually quite interesting. The pics. it kindof occurs to me, never gave it much thought but aside from Gabriel changing his appearance often during the '70s..they 'all' did. cont'd
There is no title track on Selling England By The Pound. There's a Coral sitar used during the verses of I Know What I Like. And yes, you're hearing that same instrument on this recording as well.
I'm wondering (insignificant in a way) if Peter didn't get the shaved head idea from Derek Shulman of Gentle Giant. Look at the inside of "Acquiring The Taste" (released the year before Peter did the reverse Mohawk thing) and tell me if Derek doesn't have that same 'hairdo'. It was brave to do that in the early '70s.
IMO this kind of music cannot be improvised. 2:26 the bottom pad of Collins tom was previously used as top one... No money enough at that time for the best band ever.
The beginning of it sounds like the incidental score to the Wicker Man (I refer of course to the brilliant original 1973 film with Edward Woodward and not that god awful, diabolical piece of shite so called re-make with Nicolas Cage).
Shave haircuts..add a beard, don't add a beard. Mixing it up to get noticed I guess: to help make the rock & roll dollar. See if Banks only grew a beard in 1973 they would've broke the American market.
