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Genetic insights into Neanderthal society 

Stefan Milo
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What can we learn about Neanderthal society from this huge genetic sample?
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Huge thanks to Laurits Skov
Source (It's open access): www.nature.com/articles/s4158...
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Disclaimer: Use my videos as a rough guide to a topic. I am not an expert, I may get things wrong. This is why I always post my sources so you can critique my work and verify things for yourselves. Of course I aim to be as accurate as possible which is why you will only find reputable sources in my videos. Secondly, information is always subject to changes as new information is uncovered by archaeologists.
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@StefanMilo
@StefanMilo 9 месяцев назад
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@montypythonator
@montypythonator 9 месяцев назад
First off, it's only 3:25am...
@mitchwood6609
@mitchwood6609 9 месяцев назад
STEFAN, CHEESE AND RICE (jesus christ), cheese and rice my friend... YOU LIKE thinking about deep thoughts while affected by mind altering substances?!?!?!?!? GUESS WHAT? Our ancient ancestors did too also and this is exactly what has led us humans to become "human" ......... I believe monkeys got high and that is part of the key to the piece of our evolution puzzle on intelligence... what are your thoughts on this subject? Now I'm not promoting everyone go out and get high. On the contrary I'm against it... But the RIGHT person witht he RIGHT drug unlocks miracles in the mind and allows him/her to think "outside of the box''............. please reply with your thoughts and maybe do a whole video on this?
@jimmyjasi-
@jimmyjasi- 9 месяцев назад
Shout out to Orangután Women! I prefer Gibbons. I really hope Danubepithecus was our 5 million Gibbonlike Ancestor. Brachiation is so Romantic! Almost like flying!
@aylbdrmadison1051
@aylbdrmadison1051 9 месяцев назад
I finished watching this at 3: 49 am. And yes, I am stoned.
@aylbdrmadison1051
@aylbdrmadison1051 9 месяцев назад
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 : Such minor differences often do exist between British English and American English.
@Finkelthusiast
@Finkelthusiast 9 месяцев назад
As a 4 am stoner, thanks for the bedtime story Dad.
@tannerdenny5430
@tannerdenny5430 9 месяцев назад
Late night trips to Mars are my favorite
@noahsabin7386
@noahsabin7386 9 месяцев назад
Stoners dream of the stone age. Their reasons are their own.
@sarcastaball
@sarcastaball 9 месяцев назад
Right on, and likewise, mate. I'm hitting the hay connecting with my ape-like ancestors right now. This one guy, he says his name is Mok or something, says hello, I think, idk.
@InsertHandleHere968
@InsertHandleHere968 9 месяцев назад
I second that 😂😂😂❤
@noobnaab4647
@noobnaab4647 9 месяцев назад
Lighting it up, right now! Cheers 🦊.. Many thanks mister Millo!
@amandavandenberg9258
@amandavandenberg9258 9 месяцев назад
As both a stoner and an archeology nerd I thank you doubly for all you do!
@jayarava
@jayarava 9 месяцев назад
Isn't stoner just another name for an archaeology nerd? 🤣
@stewartglass
@stewartglass 9 месяцев назад
no. one is an aged stoner, the other is a stone ager @@jayarava
@brycetsawyer
@brycetsawyer 9 месяцев назад
I too am an archeological nerd who is stoned watching this at 4:09 am
@dusk_en
@dusk_en 9 месяцев назад
same here
@victoriajones1575
@victoriajones1575 9 месяцев назад
My peoples!!
@rosemadder5547
@rosemadder5547 9 месяцев назад
When this guest says "I'm glad you asked", I've never heard anyone say it and mean it so much 😂 Dude was soooo happy you asked ☺ I love hearing people that get to work in a field they are passionate about.
@BeWellReneeLittlebird
@BeWellReneeLittlebird 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely that there is the stuff of a life well lived🎉
@khem127
@khem127 9 месяцев назад
@ellenlewis9860 But the girls werent busy with the denisovans, only the Neanderthal boys, but you could be right it could've been bride kidnapping by the Neanderthal boys.
@schmitzkatzewupper
@schmitzkatzewupper 7 месяцев назад
Well said
@noobnaab4647
@noobnaab4647 9 месяцев назад
I live all my life in the Iberian Peninsula, and since i am a child i always got fascinated by neanderthal man. My father would bring me to a rock cliff sharp into the high sea to go swim and spear fish in a cave that would flood in the high tide, i remember crying before entering due to the noise of the waves and the dark cave, once inside, my old man sit me down and showed to me a place with a old fire and the deepest part of the cave is shutdown with metal bars, its written there that neanderthal man lived there, so as a child i thought they was the most brave humans ever "how could someone live in a cave and not be scared with the sea and water flooding"..... Only afther as a adult and thanks to awesome peopl like you mister Millo that i understand the geo changes and etc... Never stop... Many thanks...
@Jabranalibabry
@Jabranalibabry 9 месяцев назад
That's awesome, your dad gave you the love for our hominin cousin
@thelostone6981
@thelostone6981 9 месяцев назад
“No daughter of mine is going to marry a Denisovian.” “But I love him dad. Ugh, you truly are a Neanderthal…” Jokes aside, I hope someday we can collect enough data to better understand these relationships because this is absolutely fascinating.
@rashmibhargav1343
@rashmibhargav1343 9 месяцев назад
And after thousands of year later, here we r... The hybrids. The boys. The bastards.
@magnipettersson4432
@magnipettersson4432 9 месяцев назад
​@@rashmibhargav1343we dem Bois *proceeds to be slanky and stamina based*
@grovermartin6874
@grovermartin6874 9 месяцев назад
But it was the women who moved. What was that about?
@Yarn_368
@Yarn_368 9 месяцев назад
​@@grovermartin6874they may have been forced by the males or traded
@eric2500
@eric2500 9 месяцев назад
@@grovermartin6874 patrilocal culture?
@Okijuben
@Okijuben 9 месяцев назад
It is so cool to think about the interplay and lives of these women who are related but lived in these caves that are 75km away from each other. You rock, Stefan!
@briancavanagh7048
@briancavanagh7048 9 месяцев назад
Interesting to think about what happened so many years ago. Where the females taken as slaves in battle? Or did the cave dwellers meet seasonally or even less occasionally to trade females? Probably but not necessarily a Romeo & Juliet story.
@Kaczyfunny
@Kaczyfunny 9 месяцев назад
They surley cant think about eachother too much bad if they sent their faughters to the others that much... or is this an ancient R&J story?
@margo3367
@margo3367 9 месяцев назад
@@KaczyfunnyAnd if the women are moving around, possibly to mate and raise families of their own, that precludes inbreeding/incest.
@casteretpollux
@casteretpollux 9 месяцев назад
75 km is really not that far on foot or by water. On the camino, a tough walk, 20 km per day is normal. But it is problematic for grandmothering.
@iamblackthorne
@iamblackthorne 9 месяцев назад
They could have been stolen.
@OVREZ
@OVREZ 9 месяцев назад
I was unsure what to do in school, i took a bio anthro class, became super interested and saw this channel…snowball effect happened and now im majoring in anthropology
@toryfoster3300
@toryfoster3300 9 месяцев назад
Not a stoner but i do love these videos when I’m chilling out at night and it is 3:45 am for me right now. Love your work, art, and curiosity, Stefan!
@margo3367
@margo3367 9 месяцев назад
Stoners aren’t up at 4 am. They can’t stay awake that long. 😎✌️
@Akkesama
@Akkesama 9 месяцев назад
I really love that you include original artwork. Shows the amount of care and collaboration that goes into this channel.
@MeganVictoriaKearns
@MeganVictoriaKearns 9 месяцев назад
Yes! Agreed! 👍 💯
@sharonhobbs4144
@sharonhobbs4144 9 месяцев назад
So long as we credit the artist
@DavideDF
@DavideDF 8 месяцев назад
@@sharonhobbs4144he credits the artist in the outro. The artist is Ettore Mazza.
@jamieharford1008
@jamieharford1008 9 месяцев назад
I'm high, it's 2.21am but I certainly didn't stumble here by chance. You are the man, thanks for another great video.
@AmericanShia786
@AmericanShia786 9 месяцев назад
Your videos are great to watch at any time or day! At age 63, I can't believe how much we have learned about ancient humans since I was first getting into science in grade school. It is the same with astronomy. Yes, I was one of those nerdy kids who loved science, then Jazz and reading Science Fiction. Your channel keeps me up to date with recent archaeological discoveries. I also watch a Dutch woman's channel. Anton Petrov has a great science channel as well.
@andrewscoppetta4944
@andrewscoppetta4944 9 месяцев назад
Stefan, do you remember the match we had at Wimbledon? That was a banger for sure. Your match point ace was unreal. If only I could have returned that serve, that ball boy would still have his right hand. Don’t blame yourself, he never should have tried to catch it on the bounce. It’s not your fault. Paying for his medical bills with your winnings was a super classy move though. ‘97 was one hell of a year!
@michaelfleming4015
@michaelfleming4015 9 месяцев назад
Amazing that so many Neanderthal individuals from the same cave have been found. And this is after excavating only 1/3 of the cave. The relationships between the individuals and how they relate to other populations are just fascinating and invaluable!
@anyascelticcreations
@anyascelticcreations 9 месяцев назад
Here's a thought. Maybe they lived in 1 or 2 of the caves and buried their dead in the other.
@user-lb8bg6kj9m
@user-lb8bg6kj9m 7 месяцев назад
​@@anyascelticcreations More like the cave collapsed on them while they were sleeping.
@anyascelticcreations
@anyascelticcreations 7 месяцев назад
@@user-lb8bg6kj9m Hmm. Now I'm curious. I was thinking they said that the skeletons looked like they were intact at the time of death. But I could easily be remembering that from a different video. If the skeletons looked crushed at the time of death I'd say you were probably right. But I would think the archeologists would have come to that conclusion if they were crushed. Because it is a good thought.
@user-lb8bg6kj9m
@user-lb8bg6kj9m 7 месяцев назад
@@anyascelticcreations Not like that. The cave entrance collapsed sealing them all in.
@johnvidal70
@johnvidal70 Месяц назад
Maybe Denisovans lived in these cave and they were eating Neanderthals.
@kevinberrien745
@kevinberrien745 9 месяцев назад
Always enjoy your content! I really enjoy coverage of contemporary research and interviews of the actual researchers too!
@CookaSoupNieceEH
@CookaSoupNieceEH 9 месяцев назад
Dear Mr. Milo I understand that my suggestion is controversial and not RU-vid friendly. Nevertheless there is evidence that early hominids did things that we consider now as repulsive, e.g. eating and butchering other hominids. This is why it got me thinking, when in our evolution did we "stop" engaging in non-consent sex and transition into consensual sex? Is ancient Greek Greco-Roman wrestling circumstantial evidence of how a early hominid like Ardi engaged in non-consent sex? Is the concept of sports/olympics derived from our evolutionary transition from non-consent sex to consensual sex and is there any correlation? Did Lucy's mother stand on a hypothetical highway bent over hoping that primates get her first before the lions? Or was she dragged against her will to the trees by a passing male? Or was it something completely different? I understand that people may feel uncomfortable by these questions, but I'm not the architect of primate behavior. It is what it is.
@Katie-ry4lj
@Katie-ry4lj 9 месяцев назад
Yes! I appreciate this so much.
@local3433
@local3433 9 месяцев назад
Very much enjoy your skill to contextualise things further for us beyond the scientific articles findings and your interviews. Thanks for the storytelling.
@glennhoetker2721
@glennhoetker2721 9 месяцев назад
Great to see what a talented interviewer you’ve become, Stefan. Thanks for helping bring us all this knowledge.
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 6 месяцев назад
I don't understand his glorifying of the mixing, which has been proven to be the cause of genetic problems, as "beautiful families." Sexual fantasies should remain OUT of scientific study.
@masterlinguini
@masterlinguini 9 месяцев назад
i really just love this channel it is such good quality and you're such a great host! i love the way the video progresses to make us ask questions the same way you did. What a great interview too - such a great video Stefan!
@sidilicious11
@sidilicious11 9 месяцев назад
100 degrees here in Oregon. I wet myself down and am in the hammock in the shade ready to listen to this!
@johntillman6068
@johntillman6068 9 месяцев назад
I'm in the second hottest place in Oregon, but in my cool, dark basement.
@nilkilnilkil
@nilkilnilkil 9 месяцев назад
I like your aesthetic sense as well as your depth of coverage, stef. So, thanks for doing that for me specifically.
@joemanco-no4jy
@joemanco-no4jy 9 месяцев назад
Great work Stefan. It is nice to have someone who knows something to start with put this new information together, contextualize it, and ask good questions of the author of this new paper. OK, go ahead and wake me up at 4:00 AM when you get something else like this.
@user-qt3br1wq2f
@user-qt3br1wq2f 9 месяцев назад
Jokes on you Stefan! It’s not 4am but I am stoned to the bone, and a huge archeology nerd! It’s like you knew I just put down the bong!
@Alasdair37448
@Alasdair37448 9 месяцев назад
"Being eaten by hyenas is a certifiable bummer" - Stefan Milo. Legendary .
@nineteenfortyeight6762
@nineteenfortyeight6762 7 месяцев назад
They're scavengers tho
@kertpilman
@kertpilman 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Stefan. Stoners like me have been watching you for years taking us deep into this story of our own past, keeping the imagination wandering on these different times... And the chance of it all leading up to the current time and our existence is just mind boggling.
@jkratzok
@jkratzok 9 месяцев назад
Stefan, I just have to say - I love your videos! You explain things so we’ll and keep it light but very informative and interesting! Thank you!
@Cat-tastrophee
@Cat-tastrophee 9 месяцев назад
The editing here was top notch! Really enjoyed this video. Thanks Mr. Milo and Dr. Skov!
@Katie-ry4lj
@Katie-ry4lj 9 месяцев назад
Heck yeah! I can’t wait to watch this tonight!!! I always get excited when a new Stefan Milo video drops!! ❤
@francoislancon798
@francoislancon798 9 месяцев назад
That was a real breakthrough find and study. Thank you to bring it out in this funny yet professional manner.
@harrisonandrew
@harrisonandrew 9 месяцев назад
Stefan, I found that video absolutely fascinating. I cant tell you how much I enjoyed it. Thank you.
@teresamerkel7161
@teresamerkel7161 9 месяцев назад
thank you for your hard work to bring such facinating information forward.
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 9 месяцев назад
I've been waiting for this! You're so good at these kinds of videos, Stefan! Sitting back to soak it all in, now. On an unrelated (but very important) note, please, please take time to tell your loved ones you love them EVERY chance you get. Tomorrow is not a given; you're never promised the next sunrise. ~ ~ ~ ~ "And don't let it break your heart. I know it feels hopeless sometimes. But they're never really gone as long as there's a memory in your mind." _Hold On To Memories_ Dave Draiman, Disturbed 💔💔 07 Jan 1984 - 02 Aug 2023 Rest in Peace, Matthew. Momma will miss you every day of my life! 😢
@uncletoad1779
@uncletoad1779 9 месяцев назад
Such a fascinating content, such a first-rate presentation. Thanks again, Stefan! The quality of your channel is outstanding.
@jorgedawsonwetto25
@jorgedawsonwetto25 9 месяцев назад
im a 24/7 stoner..but im also huge into history and pre history and your videos are awesome! very updated sources and good editing and always something new! congrats dude! 🎉
@larryparis925
@larryparis925 9 месяцев назад
This is a great, information-packed episode. So much to learn. Many thanks, Stefan.
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 7 месяцев назад
Q: What is the definition of a Neanderthal virgin? A: A girl who can out-run her brothers.
@gullyfoyle2615
@gullyfoyle2615 9 месяцев назад
My favourite Natural history Channel strikes again! Great work Stefan.
@osmarmacrob
@osmarmacrob 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! It's always amazing to see that the more me find out, the more find out how little we know. Every new piece of research just adds to the complexity of the puzzle.
@poorplayer9249
@poorplayer9249 9 месяцев назад
Every answer poses more questions. Not frustrating...much, but the best kind of science discovery quest. I'm with you on this Stephan. It's more fascinating, and motivating, that anything else, really. Great video!
@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks
@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks 9 месяцев назад
Awesome video! Thanks amigo!
@x-ratedalien
@x-ratedalien 9 месяцев назад
Amazing work! Found your youtube recently and binged the hell out of it. The comment about how a family tree really humanizes their lives, and the reason why hyena dna would be entangled were so great!
@lightbeingform
@lightbeingform 9 месяцев назад
Right when I am in the middle of reading Angela Saini's new book! I am wowed by your relevance always, seeing how you talk about ancient stuff. Way to go! Keep following your passions, we are here for it. Hooray for a busy wife, but busy kids? I am imagining toddlers innlittle power outfits with briefcases babbling on bluetooth earpieces
@vladtheimpala5532
@vladtheimpala5532 9 месяцев назад
I appreciate that you use stock footage that is as accurate as possible, and that you tell us when it’s different. Some channels don’t bother with that which can be annoying and potentially deceptive.
@jenseklof2653
@jenseklof2653 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for helping us stay on top of what’s happening in academia on this topic. Love your videos.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 9 месяцев назад
There is also the seldom studied X-chromosome lineage (non-recombinable segment). From memory now (if someone is interested, I can document further) there seems to be one such X-DNA lineage from Neanderthals and (IMO) it is the same that was previously found to be most divergent from the others and found most concentrated in some specific populations such as Basques, Gujaratis or Native Americans. It was labeled B006. X-DNA lineages can come from either side, let's not assume it is matrilineal just because women have two X chromosomes and men inherit our X-chr from our mums (but the non-recombinable segment can be from her mum or her dad). In fact, in a study in coastal Colombia, X-DNA documented the repeated arrival of waves of European male settlers, unlike mtDNA, which was fundamentally aboriginal and documented that almost no female settlers arrived instead.
@molloblin
@molloblin 9 месяцев назад
Certainly seems like an interesting way to parse between purely matrilineal and patrilineal inheritance and ease out patterns over pairs of generations (grandfather to grandchild). Good stuff
@ambergilbeyjustin7774
@ambergilbeyjustin7774 9 месяцев назад
I'd watch
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 9 месяцев назад
Just for the record, I mentioned this issue of X-DNA haplotype B006 being possibly of Neanderthal origin in my old blog: forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2011/01/is-x-dna-lineage-neanderthal.html
@whitesun264
@whitesun264 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for interpreting and relaying in an understandable way; I also liked your analysis and the questions which it raised for you.
@Miriboheme
@Miriboheme 9 месяцев назад
excellent video, once again. thank you! i actually got a little tear in my eye when you revealed that there was a genetic connection between those two communities. it's not often we get such a glimpse into prehistory. beautiful.
@Orcrez
@Orcrez 9 месяцев назад
This made my Tuesday!!! Always interesting and amazing work!
@billxx188
@billxx188 9 месяцев назад
It's 4 am somewhere. Your videos are the perfect set and setting for entertainment and education.
@Ptaku93
@Ptaku93 9 месяцев назад
the image of a neanderthal man and his daughter 60,000 years ago and on another continent, speaking an unknown language, whose lives are otherwise absolutely lost to history, yet who shared love between one another and had their little moments and nicknames like all parents and children do nowadays, just had me tear up, ngl
@darko714
@darko714 9 месяцев назад
I have no problem imagining this. The words they spoke were likely precursors of the ones we use today, and their love was universal and timeless. It's okay to anthropomorphize them, because they were people.
@Cobalt1520
@Cobalt1520 8 месяцев назад
@@darko714no they weren’t. They weren’t our ancestors, and weren’t able of complex speech, they had the speech of a 2 year old human child. They were a different species, which emerged 300 000 years before us. So when we emerged they were already here since 300th years, so they could not be the same species. They were hominid, not humans.
@darko714
@darko714 8 месяцев назад
There's evidence that anatomically modern humans evolved more than 300,000 years ago (at least if the dating of remains found at Jebel Irhoud in Morocco is accurate). There's also evidence that their Neanderthal and Denisovan cousins, while anatomically distinct, were able to and did breed with the humans, which strongly suggests that they were not a separate species at all. However, perhaps I went a bit far in speculating that their language had evolved to a fairly advanced state. @@Cobalt1520
@HkFinn83
@HkFinn83 7 месяцев назад
It’s not known whether Neanderthals possessed the language faculty, but it’s thought probably not from what’s known of linguistics.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 7 месяцев назад
They literally have Valuev & Treshkova in russian Duma, and judging by these Neanderthals, they were not capable of human emotions or thought.
@Pixxelshim
@Pixxelshim 9 месяцев назад
Wonderful discussion, presentation and artwork! Thanks again.
@EB-qi3mx
@EB-qi3mx 9 месяцев назад
Loved it - thank you so much for this Stefan!
@StephMcAlea
@StephMcAlea 9 месяцев назад
I love Stefan's ad reads! Always genuine and funny!
@Erinselysion
@Erinselysion 9 месяцев назад
It's just so cool that we can learn all of these details from ancient bones, DNA is such an interesting form of science
@tyronefrielinghaus3467
@tyronefrielinghaus3467 9 месяцев назад
This is great : thanks so much for taking the effort. I truly appreiate it. Great production values too
@rockinbobokkin7831
@rockinbobokkin7831 9 месяцев назад
Quality content as usual! Thanks Milo
@melissab8500
@melissab8500 9 месяцев назад
This is great! Thank you so much for taking the time to decipher the data for us. You really made it come alive. Sounds like the Denisovan's women didn't wander lol, I hope there are updates in the future
@russellbarndt6579
@russellbarndt6579 8 месяцев назад
Having the benefit of your interest to share this amazing discovery and others but your questions most particular that bring so much detail to this subject tjen how you introduce it then bring out the meaning, I will always have appreciation to be able to expand my understanding....
@matthewdrum2961
@matthewdrum2961 9 месяцев назад
Love lots of your videos Stefan, but this was one of the most interesting yet!
@stevenbalderstone709
@stevenbalderstone709 9 месяцев назад
Quite amazing! You are a great science communicator, keep it up.
@Dave-bt8pm
@Dave-bt8pm 9 месяцев назад
Love your work! Cheers!
@charlieculp3956
@charlieculp3956 9 месяцев назад
Helluva delivery there, buddy! My attention was captured by this info
@hom3chuk
@hom3chuk 9 месяцев назад
Love your videos, good stuff as always. Awesome production, awesome story, brilliant way of humanizing someone so far away in time from us. Also, mic fork is missing in the new setup?
@Edengar86
@Edengar86 9 месяцев назад
I really like what you do on this channel, like, you explain complex stuff really well at a level I'm able to understand ...I'm super curious to learn about ancient humans, how they lived, what did they feel, how did they think etc, but I'm not a genius, I can't understand like, scientific papers lol ^^;; so thanks, really cool video, it's really interresting to think about neandertal women moving around in between groups!
@pzuliomaccavellion9711
@pzuliomaccavellion9711 9 месяцев назад
Awesome video, as usual. Cheers
@CristinaAshley8
@CristinaAshley8 2 месяца назад
I just got back onto the whole pre-history wagon the last week and a half and I've learned so much. It's amazing, these pre-people existed. They had some sort of dynamic, definitely understood that they needed to be near each other to survive, and left an imprint that we today are still trying to understand. It's amazing, I don't think I'll ever get tired of learning more about our beginning.
@peterpayne2219
@peterpayne2219 9 месяцев назад
Love your videos, Stefan! You have a fan in rural Japan! I often watch (listen to) your videos through AirPods while sitting in Japanese hot springs/public baths.
@GneasYTC
@GneasYTC 9 месяцев назад
You earned a subscription for accurately guessing that I am watching at 4AM. 🤣Alas, not high though. 😵‍💫 I really like your style, Stefan - very casual and conversational, but still managing to get the hard data across, with no sense of dumbing it down. I guess like most others who watch your vids, I'm fascinated by the story of human origins. It's become very clear in the last few decades that the old 'branching tree' model that I learned back in the 70s/80s is seriously flawed. Instead there has been a lot of crossover and reintegration between the branches. I wonder if it's becoming a bit inaccurate to think of Neanderthals/Denisovans/'Modern humans'/others as being different 'species'? Perhaps it would be more correct to think of us as subspecies of some overarching whole? I mean, we kept shagging each other throughout our evolution, apparently whenever we got a chance. Maybe we should be known collectively as the Horny Apes? As I said, not high but definitely tired, so probably writing nonsense at this stage. 😎 Again: really interesting stuff, thanks for taking the time to share with us.
@Alarix246
@Alarix246 9 месяцев назад
It wouldn't be possible to get to Homo sapiens without the horrible regular cataclysms which wiped the slate clean from time to time.
@gawkthimm6030
@gawkthimm6030 9 месяцев назад
you are completly right in that its "inaccurate to think of Neanderthals/Denisovans/'Modern humans'/others as being different 'species" - since the word species usually means not being able to interbreed, which is why you wont hear Stefan say the word species, he just calls them all humans, homonids or archaic humans
@BenSmith-jw8zy
@BenSmith-jw8zy 7 месяцев назад
Sapiens is the globalist word for AI connected to tech. @@gawkthimm6030
@justdavedoindavestuff3479
@justdavedoindavestuff3479 9 месяцев назад
I'm both in archaeology nerd, and high (and drunk). But it's not 4 a.m. how do I fit into your demographic? Love yer channel.
@wrp3621
@wrp3621 9 месяцев назад
Need to change your clock .
@lawrence5117
@lawrence5117 9 месяцев назад
A fascinating topic very well presented. Thanks Stefan. I've downloaded the paper in the hope my poor brain will be able to follow some of it.
@jameswithers2334
@jameswithers2334 9 месяцев назад
I think that the sample size could be relatively small. There could very well be other sites in the region with individuals possessing different mixtures of inherited material. Or the other sites of habitation may not have survived at all, which seems likely.
@SupahTrunks7
@SupahTrunks7 9 месяцев назад
Yeah my initial assumption is either that the cave closer to the denisovan cave (which they had a hard time getting sample results from) May yield some individuals with denisovan dna, or that denisovan women were more like orangutans than chimps and did not have the same female dispersal that Neanderthals did, leading to Neanderthal dna entering their community but denisovan dna staying put
@jessicaj2990
@jessicaj2990 Месяц назад
@@SupahTrunks7 yea even among human populations it's dependant on culture wether males or females are the ones to disperse. chimpanzees and bonobos are closely related, yet chimps have female dispersal and bonobos have male dispersal. just makes sense it would vary between homo species or even just different cultural groups within the same species.
@fiveandfour
@fiveandfour 9 месяцев назад
I don’t know why, but the total population sizes of Neanderthal and other prehistoric human types had never occurred to me before as a significant factor in the genetic successes and failures of the different branches of our ancestors. The rapid changes to the genome that takes an individual away from the genetic ideal of its species within something like a couple of generations of inbreeding could explain so much 🤯. Thanks for facilitating this discussion.
@johntomasini3916
@johntomasini3916 9 месяцев назад
Always enjoy your video's Stefan, education never stops. My interest comes from an Australian indigenous friend who's history can now be traced back 75,000 years, I'm always looking for those ancient connections.
@alayneperrott9693
@alayneperrott9693 9 месяцев назад
Really interesting and throws up lots of new questions. Thanks. ❤
@JHaven-lg7lj
@JHaven-lg7lj 8 месяцев назад
Brilliant and fascinating, as always. Looking forward to the next one!
@Potkanka
@Potkanka 9 месяцев назад
It's interesting and yes, the father-daughter connectino definitely makes thme seem more... real, I guess? More familiar. I hope we'll eventually learn more about their family structures, possibly some traditions etc.
@jeffkzhj9477
@jeffkzhj9477 9 месяцев назад
Great content! Keep up the good work ❤😎
@gabrivalen5435
@gabrivalen5435 9 месяцев назад
Love your videos Stefan! Super interesting as always. I'm also a 4am stoner watching.
@sidnl
@sidnl 9 месяцев назад
Fascinating discussion as always, Stefan, and the production quality of your videos only gets better each time! Does the genetic data you illustrated beginning @18:35 also suggest that only male Neanderthal-Sapiens hybrids were fertile?
@MeganVictoriaKearns
@MeganVictoriaKearns 9 месяцев назад
I don't think he's saying that. Not 100% certain, though. But no, I don't get that from what he's showing as a family tree example.
@ryanmillichap8327
@ryanmillichap8327 9 месяцев назад
What service did you use for your own DNA analysis @Stefan? I want to do this myself as well
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 9 месяцев назад
I like the fact that the channels I have subscribed to advertise sponsors which I am happy with (whether I would/can use their products or not). No ethical conflict!
@FannyShmellar
@FannyShmellar 9 месяцев назад
Such a class channel, people like you make me proud to be English. Keep it up. Im a big football fan and my team got battered today so it’s nice to watch really interesting stuff like this to take the mind off it. Legend 👍
@Mr3DBob
@Mr3DBob 9 месяцев назад
Well, it's really only 3:39, but you guessed it pretty close. Fascinating stuff - genealogical reality. I'm a 3.6% Neand, and I miss my Denisovan sweetheart from eons ago. This is as romantic as an Omeleto short film.
@rebeccasford
@rebeccasford 9 месяцев назад
That's really amazing. It would make sense that they were depositing their dead there. And if they lived somewhere else nearby, there might be evidence of that. I can't wait for more research to be done.
@LuxisAlukard
@LuxisAlukard 9 месяцев назад
Such a great video! And I'm grateful for subtitles, they help a lot! =) P.S. I came here from watching Super Mario video, so that first scene was mindblowing!!
@profmatt505
@profmatt505 9 месяцев назад
As a stoner from the same uni who has recently left a pretty good career to follow my true passion I have so much respect for someone who in the archeology community, which let's be real is tragically an underpaid area, has put the work into making something out of their passion. It's truly inspiring! Keep up the work Stefan!
@readmycomment3157
@readmycomment3157 9 месяцев назад
Incredible video. I don't understand people who don't find this fascinating, my imagination goes wild hearing about the lives of these individuals from so long ago
@spao9411
@spao9411 9 месяцев назад
Its always so fun to watch your videos and just ponder what life looked like thousands of years ago. What did they think about life? Wonder if future humans think about our lives the way we think about our ancestors lives
@MeganVictoriaKearns
@MeganVictoriaKearns 9 месяцев назад
I ask myself those exact questions all the time. I've been contemplating those same things as far back as age 7/8. Unfortunately, anytime I bring up these ideas, which to me are fascinating questions to ponder, I get weird looks 99% of the time. Always nice to stumble upon a kindred spirit! ❤
@SaszaDerRoyt
@SaszaDerRoyt 9 месяцев назад
As someone coming from the more cultural and artistic side of archaeology, I love to see the incredible insight aDNA work can give us into the social structures of Neanderthals
@hotncoldez
@hotncoldez 9 месяцев назад
Big fan of your channel Stefan! Thank you for making accessible videos that allow sci-curious folk like me to dive into an otherwise mysterious field of research.
@pcatful
@pcatful 9 месяцев назад
I studied genetics in college in the 70's. It has gone so far, but some of the terms and concepts are the same. I didn't pursue the field so I don't follow much of this so well. Fact is we are part Neanderthal. It could actually be one of our best parts, who knows? Given that we both share so great a part of our DNA with Chimpanzees, we're getting down to fine distinctions here.
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset 9 месяцев назад
Correction a portion of our population share DNA with neanderthals. Africans don't share that DNA from what Stefan has said
@fukpoeslaw3613
@fukpoeslaw3613 9 месяцев назад
Oh yes, Milo dominating the tennis scene, what days they were, we thought they'd never end!
@slwrabbits
@slwrabbits 9 месяцев назад
When I was that age, or maybe a bit younger, we made me stop playing tennis because I kept hitting myself in the head with the racket.
@fukpoeslaw3613
@fukpoeslaw3613 9 месяцев назад
@@slwrabbits 😄, everybody has their own unique talent!
@abcde1054
@abcde1054 8 месяцев назад
What a cool channel. Never thought i would find this kind of stuff interresting but do thanks to Stefan.
@MattttG3
@MattttG3 9 месяцев назад
20:40 you are very appreciated for doing so. I always love your videos
@stormevans6897
@stormevans6897 9 месяцев назад
I would love to somehow meet and learn about these long gone people, they're so fascinating.. I'd love to know more about their culture, about the things we could never figure out from just looking at bones.
@MeganVictoriaKearns
@MeganVictoriaKearns 9 месяцев назад
I've always been more interested in the day-to-day lives and cultural beliefs of extinct hominids, much more than the "big picture" kinds of information that tends to be all that can be verified when we only have bones to deal with. A scarce amount of bones, too.
@marthanewsome6375
@marthanewsome6375 9 месяцев назад
To think 50 to 60 thousands years ago humans got to Australia and that native Australians have a really good amount of Denisovan DNA too.
@theviper1999uk
@theviper1999uk 9 месяцев назад
Puzzling and incredible glimpse into the past. Thank you Stefan
@ma7hatter
@ma7hatter 9 месяцев назад
Great work as always!
@HandyMan657
@HandyMan657 9 месяцев назад
And to think people have this crazy idea the planet's only 6k years old, so silly. Amazing information man, thank you.
@sandorrabe5745
@sandorrabe5745 9 месяцев назад
What made you believe it's older than that? Neanderthal DNA ... the fact that we can still sequence it with enough precision to make any conclusion about the connection between "homo sapiens" and "neanderthal man" points to a much younger age of the specimen than is suggested. When I look at these skulls, I see the remains of human beings. We all descend from Noah and his sons and daughters-in-law, and ultimately from Adam and Eve. Don't be fooled by the "wise scientists" with their "millions of years" that they need to explain God away. Repent and read the Bible.
@BenSmith-jw8zy
@BenSmith-jw8zy 7 месяцев назад
Ever notice the Bible also says "He changes times and seasons"? Gods time is eternal, so yes the 6000 club is dumb, just adding numbers but not giving God absolute power over time? What is longer than everlasting to everlasting?
@sandorrabe5745
@sandorrabe5745 7 месяцев назад
@@BenSmith-jw8zy "we" take the 6000 years from reading God's word in a natural way. Yes God is outside time, but in His word, He tells us He made day and night and the lights in the sky and the seasons for us, so that we have regularity and predictability and can be productive (genesis 1 and 2). He did manipulate time (or rather, the movement of earth and all other celestial bodies) after creation week at some moments as a sign/miracle. But the general rule is that everything is stable and predictable, like all the natural laws that He made. If you read the bible it's all quite clear really.
@BenSmith-jw8zy
@BenSmith-jw8zy 6 месяцев назад
Time is NOT. 1000 years is a day and a day is as a 1000 years, the 70 weeks of daniel means 490+ years? Im not arguing the prophecies are spot on sometimes, and we definitely have the technology for a mark of the beast now, which even 40 years ago seemed crazy, but I think units of time in the Bible are far different than what we observe now, because things like a nation being destoryed in an "hour" ive heard pastors say that means a day and others say its literal. Its very hard to draw absolutes from text as everyone is going to have a slightly different interpretation of what they read, which i guess is good as long as it doesnt cause strife hate and division. the main message of loving others as long as its possible is the most important thing, and trying to live with a clean conscience, which ive had to "reset" quite a few times as it is difficult to truly live as morally as the Bible asks us to. Of course, thats my opinion lol@@sandorrabe5745
@wabisabi6875
@wabisabi6875 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, Stefan, for bringing this very complex analysis to a broader public. Can it be confirmed whether these caves were actually inhabited? or just deposit areas for remains? And, if the latter, deposited by others of their species, or predators/scavengers?
@scottinWV
@scottinWV 9 месяцев назад
I don't know why this channel doesn't have over a million subscribers.
@dellseasandoval8187
@dellseasandoval8187 9 месяцев назад
I absolutely love your channel. You have a great personality.
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