Genius of Western Civilization - Ep. 2: The Christian Revolution (4K) 6-part Celebration of The West 

József, have you come across Tom Holland and his book "Dominion"? Melegen ajánlom!

@@kbeetles I like Tom Holland and has bought his book as a gift in the family but I have not read it myself.

Don't forget about Karl Marx and Charles Darwin. Oh wait....

I think you might be missing the point a bit. Surely Its the ability to question the very idea that anything is Universal, vthat lies at the heart of Wests dynamism. The idea that there is only one way to do or even understand anything as abstract as God is anti Western thinking. The ideas Christianity spread may have been important but that doesn't say anything about the extent of their actual truth.

@@alsoascot02 In my comment I just mentioned a few names who defended the faith in Christ as a rational choice and who held that Christ is the absolute truth. Happy Easter!

Indeed, for it's not too late for them, having chosen the path of lefteousness, to repent. If they can come to their senses, they can be forgiven.

By all definitions of historic Christianity, the senior leadership of the Church of England is heretical

They are nestled in like leeches on a groin. Time to replace them.

I fear it's too late for the current Archbishop. He needs to go!

Soo true

When called upon we shall arise, not unlike Christ who was raised when needed. It's not a coincidence my Christian Western brother. We are the sleeping giant this time!

How about your Christian foreground?

Brilliant, God bless you.

Absolutely same here 👍👍

,,,if we still had a Western education curriculum!

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My Christianity is the secular kind, but I do certainly credit Christianity with the central role in the evolution of the West. IMO, the West is first and foremost "a state of mind" that evolved in the West but is open to the whole world. Just by being a Christian and a Catholic, you have taken a giant gulp of Western culture and are as much a part of it as any of us! The West, excluding a minority of religious dogmatists, is an open culture and does not require the abandonment of the traditions of your native culture that you find of value.

@@edcottingham1 I do agree that the West in now a state of mind. I heard from the historian Stephen Kotkin that Russia may be European but not Western and Japan may be in the East but it is Western. And heartily agree with the last part of your comment, I appreciate both my being Filipino at the same time being a Catholic - it is possible to do both.

@@edcottingham1 "Secular Christianity" is an okay start but it's also an oxymoronic fantasy. You either believe that Jesus is literally God's son and that he was crucified and resurrected for your sins or you don't. You have to make the conscious decision to put your faith in God's supernatural, metaphysical existence. It may seem fantastical on the surface but a fair, critical analysis proves its objective truth.

​@@maritheresereyes "John to the seven churches which are in ASIA: Grace be unto you." - Revelation 1:4 Asia is actually the birthplace of Christianity. Israel is in Asia, just like the Philippines is. It's a big continent.✝

That is wonderful. I hope you are not a traditional Christian at other minorities' expense.

Oh, man, you nailed it! A "secular Christian" myself, I see everywhere how Christian messages have been turned to the work of destroying our culture. And this is not to criticize the messages (as GKC certainly does not) but to criticize the "madness" that some have turned them to. And I am not talking about deliberate evil schemers from outside of Christianity but the soft, muddle-brained havoc of so many sincere leaders within the faith (which I am sure is what GKC meant as well). What is happening to Christianity is exactly what has happened to classical liberalism, which it seems to me is rooted in Christian values.

Thats due entirely to the present encumbant in Canterbury.

Revelation 18:4 Come out of her my people. So relates to Babylon. But out of the Anglican world I came. Discerning it to be dead religion. 18 years in the C of E.

Also worth checking out Polkinghome

@@wavell14 I very much doubt the BBC would make a programme celebrating all that is great about the UK, at least not these days!

@@wavell14 That is not how I saw it!

@@wavell14 Equality of opportunity is a universal value surely? Something to aspire to at least. Equality of outcome is a leftist value, yes.

@@wavell14 Good question.. It's not wrong when muslims impose their religion and have bad intentions.. Islam is dangerous in the way it is interpreted, when young muslims twist all aspects if their lives around islam, it's proof of not being integrated and a threat to our existence.. But when a muslim living in your street who goes to work everyday, not imposing his religion on anyone, just minding his own business, should he be feared? Though, I think I understand you. Too many of them just want islam to expand and who can be trusted? A contract system is what I would implement : make everybody sign a contract stipulating cooperation with society. Agreeing that not respecting the laws, values, etc.., results in willingly leaving Europe and the UK together with a certain amount of family members. Muslims who really respect us and are an added value to society should be properly and positively treated. It's a matter of being direct, clear about what you expect of citizens, correct, honest and especially consequent.

@@wavell14 Technically, "Islamophobia" does not exist. A "phobia" is based in irrational fear. There is nothing irrational in fearing Islam. If anything, I would question the ones who do not fear it.

@@wavell14 You, sir are trapped in obnoxious arrogance and stupidity. And you dismiss every previous comment here, all of them beneath your all-knowing perceptions. You are something really exceptional.

@@wavell14 WW3 has broken out a long time ago, it's just not as easy to comprehend like WW2.. But, yes you have a point. That is why I'm in favor of preventive measures like having citizens sign contracts. If the muslim communities complain and point "the finger in the direction of racism and discrimination", we can remind them of the duties foreigners have i. The Middle-east..and what happens to for example africans who, sometimes, are expelled by the hundreds from countries like qatar, saudi-arabia etc..just because the governments want to expell them. The holding of religious ceremonies other than islam is forbidden in saudi-arabia. Isn't mecca one of the 3 most important things in the lives of muslims? The quran, their prophet and mecca.. You know our problem is that we Europeans, westerners want to discuss about and analyze everything, find answers.. This is of course a result of the evolution the Christian foundation went through and a positive evolution if I may say. But when it comes to islam it's a waste of precious time.. Muslims have a total different logic which is heavily influenced by islam. Every aspect of their lives, work, economy, household, marriage, sex, the interaction with non-muslims, it is all soaked in islam so in a sense, technically speaking, islam is 100 % not compatible with western civilization.. Islamic countries have simple, strict rules and the authorities are consequent, (although corruption is rampant in many places!). Therefore it would make life a lot more easier if the west would do the same: no ostensible religious practises, no hijabs in schools, no double nationalities meaning no appropriation of the host country's nationality. In yemen or some other gulf country foreign pregnant women are not allowed to give birth in the country but must go abroad. They are allowed to go back but their child can't get the yemeni or uae (?) nationality.. If we would be more protective about our identity, (without being racist but by being formal and through procedures legitimized by law, so the law applying to every foreign national), then Islamophobia wouldn't exist or at least to a muche lesser extent.. Muslims do respect laws when they are applied consequently with the needed judicial enforcement = a contract which must be signed. If anybody starts nagging about it, we simply can point out that a contract is a contract. Don't want to sign it: off you go.. 🛫..., thank you for visiting our country! But as I pointed out earlier, the leftist-liberal-green block, is holding us hostage by our own principles.. To counter that they must be confronted with the negative results of their decisions : grooming gangs, islamic terror attacks, the terror attacks in sub-saharan Africa (we get confronted with pictures of african babies with swollen stomachs due to malnutrition without pointing out that the african governments mismanage their own countries, corruption, tribalism, islamic radicalism, too many babies, superstition, etc...all problems for which they are responsible themselves..the colonization period is not the cause of things that have been going in for centuries.. Why not confront the public, especially the lefto baboons with the atrocities muslims commit in africa with....yes, european money acquired through EU subsidies, money given to turkey to support syrian refugees starting from 2016 but strangely enough many of those refugees had to pay rent and but food with money sent to them from family living in safe syrian zones.. What happened to the nearly 5 billion euro turkey received from the EU!?

@@wavell14 I admire your honesty. I am Christian myself and a nationalist who respects those who respect my country and all western civilization... I hope it will never happen but if Europe and the UK are threatend, our nations must stand together. Have a pleasant day.

@@wavell14 Equal means the same? Buy yourself a dictionary.

@@wavell14 depends what the words AFTER equal are assumed to be. What words would you use? I would use equal in the eyes of God, and you would agree, if you had been watching this video with curiosity, rather than venom

Of equal value.

@@wavell14 I would suggest you consult Cambridge dictionary, Merriam-Webster dictionary, Oxford Learner's dictionary, Collins dictionary or any dictionary of choice and read all of many definitions of the word 'equality' to broaden your comprehension of the term beyond the extremely limited representation of it found in your comment. It may guard you from falling into the post-modern habit (that you rightfully despise so much) of abusing language to bend reality, only for it to fit one's political leanings. As surely you are aware, only confusion ensues...

@@wavell14 Tigger wrote: "I would use equal in the eyes of God, and you would agree..." Your answer to that statement completely avoids the point she made, only to spew the very venom she mentioned. Why don't you address the subject at hand? Let go of your pride.

No, Jesus is the best. ✝

But we are occupied by international finance and the forces of open borders Globalisation

Don't wait until you get to your death bed. Your life may end before you have that chance. Repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your Lord and Messiah now before it's too late. ✝

Why wait till your death bed, when you can have a relationship with Jesus now? You don't know what you're missing out on.

@@markdonnaabbott3977 haha it' just for me mate but cheers

I see it exactly the way you see it. Not only was Christianity the mainspring, it was the only flowing-type spring in the minds of most men for at least the first five hundred years after Rome fell. And for many centuries after it continued to be the only philosophical thing on most men's minds. So where else would one possibly look for the seeds of Western civilization?

Now we're degenerating into a pagan polytheism

Not sad at all! I completely agree with you. At times, their buildings took hundreds of years to construct and many trades were passed from father to son to grandson. They would sign their work by making marks, so that they would get paid for the work done but also to show off what they had achieved. There is beauty, humour and grandeur in these churches.

I would think it sad that anyone might not hold this view.

Thoughts expressed very similar to those I found myself contemplating when visiting Fountains Abbey for the first time many years ago.

@Dave5400 Not sad at all. Read the Kingsbridge series of books by Ken Follet. You will be in heaven!

European Civilisation was built by.... Europeans.

A starkly expressed thought, but I choose to give it a positive interpretation. I would like to point out, though, that European civilization and culture -- created, of course, by Europeans -- is open to and a gift to the whole world. Anyone can join, and they don't even need to move here. It is a "club" of consciousness, a way of seeing and being in the world.

I agree with A G. I was looking forward to this series, but while it's at least refreshingly pro-West, it still seems to operate from the assumption that the West is good only insofar as it is progressive.

@@evolassunglasses4673 "I am BLACK and beautiful." - Queen of Sheba, Song of Solomon 1:5 "Moses' wife, Sephora, was ETHIOPIAN" - Numbers 12:1 "You are as the ETHIOPIANS, children of Israel." - Amos 9:7 "Taharqa, King of KUSH EMPIRE, has come to make war with Assyria, and defend Israel" - 2 Kings 19:9 "His (Jesus) feet were like BURNED BRONZE, as if they had burned in a furnace." - Revelations 1:15

@@evolassunglasses4673 Aside from Jesus and his ancestors being mostly African, Britain's transportation infrastructure was first built by an African emperor of Rome named Septimius Severus. And the Church of England was built by an African named St. Hadrian. So, European civilization was also built by Africans, Asians, even Americans after WWII.

Hi Jim, could you please explain Christian atheist? I'm intrigued yet baffled at that stance. Thank you

@@markdonnaabbott3977 Sure. I define it as someone who has no belief in God, yet tries to live his life in accordance with Christian ethics and the teachings of Jesus, such as Love thy Neighbour and turn the other cheek etc. Many of us brought up in Britain post war are very familiar with Christian doctrine and find it a good way to live our lives, without necessarily attending Church or having a belief in the spiritual. Hope this helps.

​@@jimpickard3850 u cant be a "christian atheist" its a contradiction, no such concept exist! An atheist can run on christian values becos they have being brought up that way regardless they still are no christian! U are either one or the other and not both!

@@smoothchilling64 These days I can identify as anything I want .. haven't you heard ?

Actually, Christianity is the fastest growing religion in Africa and East Asia. The religion itself is Afro-Asiatic originally. ✝

You sir are not far from the kingdom. Keep seeking and searching. In reference to your fire hose comment. I leave you with Jesus's words John 4:13-15 13 Jesus said to her(lady at a well), “Everyone who drinks of this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

Catholicism is a whole other kettle of fish.

Catholicism is what lifted the fallen Rome up. Protestantsim begun tearing of the church down ultimately resulting on secularism, agnosticism, atheism and wokeism after few centuries of fighting the Catholic church.

“Because of unrighteous dealings, injuries, and riches got by deceit, the kingdom is translated from one people to another.” - Ecclesiasticus 10:8 🙏🏾✝🕎

Babylon/Egypt is collapsing under the weight of its internal contradictions.

The very first music is Mendelssohn's Fingal's Cave/Hebrides Overture. It was also the very beginning of the first episode, giving way in both episodes, of course, to Beethoven. I believe that the Mendelssohn is somewhat more lengthy in the first episode. This episode was replaying in the background as I typed, and the Mendelssohn comes in again at about 9:03. "Haunting" is exactly the word, imo, too! (I am no great student of music. I happened to know this little bit, because sixty years ago, my father, who had very little interest in music, subscribed us to a Time-Life series of boxed sets, each on a separate period of classical music. Mendelssohn was part of the Romantic period. I loved this piece and, well, it "haunted" me. So glad that someone else noticed!)

The music is amazing, love it.

@@edcottingham1 Thank you Ed for this info.

A big howdy-do to you from another "secular Christian."

“Hard to be a Christian when you believe in evidence-based science, rather than blind faith” Not really only thing that makes it hard to be a Christian is love of one’s sin. This can be seen in great thinkers in this movement by Tom Holland and Douglas Murray. They may claim science or something else, but deep down it is truly the love of the sin of perversion and lust.

@@Shevytruck6 Sin is in all of us, Faith as a virtue , i e piety and running our way as St Paul did his requires saying No to sin I agree. However, there is another thing here, our education at home and at school should explain a few things in a very detailed manner about science, history, Christian theology. Otherwise it does not sink in to most people. On science Vs faith my favourite is for instance, Mr Polkinghorne, For a detailed presentation, one good example is: BTW God exists, Luca the first cell.

I see what you mean, but allow me to draw your attention to talks on science Vs faith by Mr Polkinghorne. Plenty of other good ones: Swinburne, Trent Horn,.... Or the archeolog Paul Maier , the real Jesus. Animations by "reasonable faith", William Lane Craig is also a good start for an assessment. Atheist claims are more difficult to believe in even if someone is agnostic, because they reject meaning and purpose of the Universe and it's beings. Furthermore, leading atheists also admit the primacy of information over substance, when they claim their personality is the result of a computation and could be translated to a machine in principle. In this sense materialism is dead, if it was ever living.

No, the first such faith was and is Judaism. The Old Testament, the Five Books of Torah

Mendelssohn, From Hebrides Overture

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