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Georg Muffat: the rules of violin bowing, David Wilson and Voices of Music 

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@earlystrings1
@earlystrings1 2 года назад
Great, clear exposition of Muffat. Its interesting how influential those French orchestral rules have been for baroque players of the past 50 (!) years and how little we've paid attention to what Muffat says the Germans and Italians did.
@baxter5431
@baxter5431 10 лет назад
Muffat's rules for bowing give great direction as to the articulation & accent & thereby allowing us today to recreate what the music actually did sound like as opposed to how modern orchestras have negated these aspects. It also, for me as a keyboard player, indicates the way the notes & phrases should be approached. Thanks for this video!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 10 лет назад
We are now using an updated subtitle/closed captions system. For a translation into any language, or to access the text, turn on subtitles/captions--the "cc" button, then click the settings "gear" and select any language from the menu.
@RobinHood5045
@RobinHood5045 9 лет назад
I really like this video because it can be fantastic for people learning the Violin. This is because with each piece of music being on screen while the performer plays, you can observe the bow stroke divisions for the notes. And whether to go up bow or down bow on certain notes in music may teach people about how the bow can be used to create "accents" on the strongest beats.
@sg_dan
@sg_dan 5 лет назад
It is fascinanting how Quantz and Tromlitz, decades after Muffat, would apply rules so closely related to Muffat's with regards to articulation on the flute.
@albaconejomangas9964
@albaconejomangas9964 3 года назад
Lovely! Please, join more videos like this one. I am a baroque violin player and it is really helpful.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 года назад
Thank you! Will do!
@josechrist3948
@josechrist3948 7 лет назад
This is perfect teaching!!!
@koko.hauoli
@koko.hauoli 7 месяцев назад
Thank you sooo much. Looked everywhere for this information!!!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 4 месяца назад
You are very welcome.
@DrCoyoteBanjo
@DrCoyoteBanjo 10 лет назад
What a fantastic resource--brilliant use of the medium. Well done all!
@FiddlerSteve
@FiddlerSteve 10 лет назад
Muffat's rules still work well for modern dance fiddling! Great video, and thanks for the link to IU Press! I found several books in addition to the Muffat volume that I'm interested in...
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 10 лет назад
***** How interesting~!
@StephanieHughesDesign
@StephanieHughesDesign 6 лет назад
As a Baroque music lover, Vivaldi or Bach would approve of David Wilson's excellent bowing explanation. Being a novice myself, I am starting to learn more about bowing technique and how Baroque v Classical or Romantic differ. Thank you David Wilson. Tres bon.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 4 месяца назад
Merci!
@polomokipo6000
@polomokipo6000 8 лет назад
GEORG MUFFAT { MEGEVE 1653-1704 PASSAU } THE RULES OF VIOLON BOWING - DAVID WILSON . Merci pour se cour de musique , au violon tank you.
@MaestroGosta
@MaestroGosta 2 года назад
Excellent video!
@saamalander
@saamalander 4 года назад
so informative and exactly what I was looking for, many thanks!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 4 года назад
You're very welcome.
@fancyqanun3483
@fancyqanun3483 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 года назад
Thanks for listening
@MisterKaribOfficiel
@MisterKaribOfficiel 4 года назад
This video is Gold ! Thanks !
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 4 месяца назад
:)
@javierm6234
@javierm6234 3 года назад
This videos are very useful! Thanks!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 года назад
Glad you like them!
@geiryvindeskeland7208
@geiryvindeskeland7208 6 лет назад
Sorry for my inadequate English. Do we know for sure that Bach would have supported Georg Muffat's rules? And Voices of Music, thank you so much for answer our questions!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 6 лет назад
There must have been some bowing rules for Bach and most other composers, since performers didn't write in the bowings. There's no reason to think these rules were very different for Bach, but by the end of the baroque period you start to see some comments by players wanting more freedom in the bowing. Since the bowings aren't marked in, we don't really know the exact bowings that were used. Some groups use Muffat's rules for most of the repertory, other groups do not. However, many groups add extensive markings to the music which you don't see in the baroque, and that argues in favor of some sort of system or tradition.
@martinh1277
@martinh1277 5 лет назад
Baroque music is dancing and singing. Muffat learned the bowings from Lullys orchestra, so we shold use them for all dance music in French style. More important as the bowings is the sound that came to the audience. A singer is to be imitated. How that works on baroque violin bowings you can see in the notes of any baroque composer. There is no written rules, there can't be any. It is a matter of good taste. Good taste is the taste of the auditors. They paid for it. @@VoicesofMusic
@tabbycatz
@tabbycatz 10 лет назад
Such a good explanation...thank you!!
@johdrydaniels
@johdrydaniels 8 лет назад
Really Thanks so much for this!
@swaroopn1
@swaroopn1 3 года назад
Sir, Thank you so much
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 года назад
Most welcome
@piperwalton
@piperwalton 6 лет назад
So are these rules also applicable to German and Italian music, or only French? Would, say, Corelli's sonatas or Telemann's fantasias benefit from the application of these rules?
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 6 лет назад
Some ppl use them for everything, but for sure French & German.
@alirezagolestaneh6080
@alirezagolestaneh6080 5 лет назад
Very good tnx for explains
@bgcellozone
@bgcellozone 6 лет назад
Thanks for this!!
@marcussfebruary9104
@marcussfebruary9104 6 лет назад
There should be a video of Hanneke talking about various things on the harpsichord!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 6 лет назад
Good idea!
@drzaeus5624
@drzaeus5624 4 года назад
First she needs to know how to play the instrument properly and not bore us to death
@ilynov
@ilynov 4 года назад
Thank you so much for this explanation! After desperate looking for information on the subject - so concise and short! Thank you! So how did actually German and Italian baroque players synchronize their bowings???
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 4 месяца назад
You just follow the concertmaster.
@anagenicamangana7365
@anagenicamangana7365 3 года назад
impressive ☺🤗
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 года назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@anaissa5313
@anaissa5313 4 года назад
Thanks!!!!!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 4 года назад
Welcome!
@KevOSMusic
@KevOSMusic 10 лет назад
As a none string player this has been extremely enlightening. Puts me in mind about the baroque French organ rules. Would German/Italian bowing traditions have been performed as alternate bowing (up/down/up/down) or would there be some variations?
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 10 лет назад
***** For sure there would have been all sorts of individual styles and variations.
@CruelLion7
@CruelLion7 6 лет назад
You play very well :)
@cristianoscaglioni1965
@cristianoscaglioni1965 10 лет назад
Amazing video!! Thanks so much! But could you please set up video caption?
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 10 лет назад
Cristiano Scaglioni We are working on the captions right now as well as a downloadable pdf :)
@cristianoscaglioni1965
@cristianoscaglioni1965 10 лет назад
Yeah! My english hearing is not that good yet. hehe
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 10 лет назад
Cristiano Scaglioni Captions on line and can also be automatically translated.
@cristianoscaglioni1965
@cristianoscaglioni1965 10 лет назад
Voices of Music thanks so much! Love you from voices of music!
@saeidyazdani
@saeidyazdani 4 года назад
Nice :)
@andreasvandieaarde
@andreasvandieaarde 2 года назад
So they're not really rules then? More like guidelines. Not to be semantic about it, but there's so much confusion (which I think is partly deliberate) when it comes to conversation about how to play music in the western classical sphere (anything from medieval to romantic music) with "rules" in mind. I'm personally sick of the confusion that still happens now considering this is almost 8 years old.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 2 года назад
A set of rules is a like a grammar book, you learn that, and, then, if you choose, you may make your own rules to create literature or poetry. If you are playing baroque music, learning Muffat's rules will not take long and it's valuable skill.
@bambiwaddlefeet
@bambiwaddlefeet 5 лет назад
I've never seen a violin with no chin rest.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 5 лет назад
Instruments from the time of Amati, Guarnerius, Stainer and Stradivarius never had chin rests.
@gregmonks
@gregmonks Год назад
Rule #1: There are no rules.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic Год назад
Rule #2 always follow rule #1
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