Jewel Thief Lenny Hamilton tells Steve Wraith & Liam Galvin about how George Cornell knocked out Ronnie Kray! Footage supplied by Liam Galvin & Yvette Rowland at www.unlicensedboxing.com/
My dear old Nan worked in the blind beggar , when I stayed at her house which was quite often , she noticed I was reading a book on the Krays , she paused looked over the top of her glasses and said George Cornell was a man who most people would avoid if a fight broke out. Then she said Darren I bet that book won’t tell you that George beat Ronnie up and he made it clear that he would do the pair of them together😂 I thought my Nan was talking rubbish but now we have the internet to look stuff up I guess she was telling me the truth. Waltzing Matilda they called my Nan Hilda rip still have great memories of my east end Nan and gramps 😘
@@toppertruthio "in it" has been short for "aint it" or "isn't" it for many many years in London lol. It wasn't just roadmen in the last 20 years that started saying it...
I've worked in and out of London since the mid 80's, back then it was all the Irish lads on the sites, good fucking grafters they were and boy they could drink mind, i'm a County Durham lad and haven't been down there for around 7 years and to be honest i miss the place. I worked for a man called Kenny Smith out of Hackney the last time i was in there, he was born in Millwall, proper Cockney boy, he knew all the shady men and even took me and my lads to the old haunts where the Krays hung out, even Palici's cafe in Bethnal Green for dinners. All the East end lads always seemed to get the round in with 50 pound notes and wouldn't let you buy them one back, salt of the fucking earth they were and really looked after us. The pub called the Nelson on the Isle of Dogs i remember, we worked on the main road there, Queensferry road i think. Total shame what our proud capital looks like now, of course the government are to blame for flooding the country with millions of fucking strangers, 3rd of a million last year alone, fucking ruined!
andy mane Why, what have you said...? Been to Stamford Hill at all...? Fact is that Jews, Gypsies and Irish can have a drink doen the pub : great British pastime. And because they blended in better meant that tbe existing population in whatever area were less likely to scarper and you had more mixing. How many areas in South London changed demographics during 50s and 60s...?
@@jimbo6693 you do know this grass is well known in the area for being exactly that. He was an absolute wet wipe. He was nothing but a go for, hang around.
@@davivbrightonby all accounts, Ronnie was the more unhinged and dangerous in a street fight because he would stop at nothing, and was happy to use hammers, baseball bats, broken bottles, bike chains or anything else he could get his hands on. Reggie was the better boxer and less likely to use weapons other than his bare hands, although he was not adverse to using knives, etc, he was considered the less aggressive of the two.
yea,pull the other one len,i can just see it,george knocks ron down,and ron gets up and says oh fair enough len,see you next week and walks away, do me a favour.
Any why did he grass? Cause the brave krays threatened to shoot his kids so he thought better to grass and be safe. Watch the Fred dineage documentary on RU-vid Lennie says on there I would never of spoken to the police if the twins didn’t threaten my kids he said you don’t grass
Years ago a friend took me to the Blind Beggar; he had been a child in the Krays ‘manor’…we are the same age; 67. He informed me that if all the bullshitters who reckoned they had been present actually had been, then they would have filled Wembley Stadium…🤣
People forget that these gangsters terrorised people for a living. I've seen people say 30 years was too much for the krays sentence, but one things for sure. Had they have had less time inside, it would have been more time and opportunity to go back to a life of extorting innocent people. So good riddence to the pair of them.
YES! But which story or version of the story are you putting your belief in? About as wholly truthful as the myths written about a certain guy who spent all of his time with 12 men, was convicted of being in breach of legislation as set out at the time and sentenced to death only to reappear, then disappear?
mary poppins So the guy who happened to mention that Ron had put on some weight, and got his face slashed open for it, how was he trying to hurt the twins? Or the young lads that were threatened into becoming rent boys? Or the businessmen forced to pay protection, or suffer a beating and damage to their property? People don't inspire the level of fear achieved by the Krays by only hurting those who wanted to hurt them. They were more than willing to hurt anyone in order to get what they wanted.
when i lived in the East End in the early 90s,i knew someone who had lived just round the corner from the Krays and he said about Cornell beating Ronnie up.Interestingly he also said it was "scotch"Jack Dickson who put the idea of murder in Ronnies head.He drove Ron to the Blind Beggar.Apparently Dickson was hated in the East End as he used his connection to the Krays to terrorise ordinary people.In Tony Lambrianous book he says the same thing.But as they are all dead i dont supoose we will ever really know
They were good fighters especially reggie he could've gone professional but got in trouble with the law ie arson and ronnie got done for gbh at just 15
someone who was a lot closer to the twins than you was., has said in is book,that, that never would have happened,but it is still 2to1 in your favour because billy Webb,(running with the krays) has said the same thing i.would be interested in any more info on the subject
Great, another story about Ronnie Kray after his Death. Why are all you so called gangsters coming out with your stories now that the Kray Twins are not around. I never, ever heard any of these stories when they were still alive. So why are they all being told now that there are gone...? Mmmmmmm.
Probably due to being able to act on the information if they were still alive, as well as no doubt not having to be worried about being a "grass" now by any sensible people.
Bill Patrick Jones come up to Scotland where there's loads of men about that will always fight to the end after people know that you don't give a fuck who you are in jail you still get lads running drugs and ruling the place but even they know the real hard basterd just leave then do to there time now
From the Kray Twins site: Leonard Hamilton was a jewel thief and safe breaker. A well-known character in the East End, he is perhaps most regarded for being the man Ronnie Kray branded with red-hot pokers in 1962 after an argument regarding a Kray associate's daughter. He worked on Harry Abraham's Firm before becoming a driver for Alan Bruce Cooper and also worked as a valet and a batman for a member of a payroll team, and also an occasional jewel thief and safe breaker. A frequent critic of the twins, he appeared in many documentaries and interviews discussing the poker incident, which he claimed left him partially blind in one eye.
English gangster cheerleaders have always got ideas above their stations loooooooool Roy De Meo would have walked into Ron and Reggie's mum's house himself , sat at the table and ate the dinner off Ron and Reggie's plates and smashed the plates over their fucking heads and they wouldn't have done a thing about it . You're an absolute maniac for even comparing the two here. Any murders the Krays needed done they got Arthur Thompson from Glasgow to bring his boys to do them. In return Arthur got to muscle in on pubs and clubs .
Like comparing apples and oranges. De Meo was well protected and could do just about anything if Nino approved. The Krays on the other hand we’re street fighters who didn’t kill lots like murder machine but held their own.
Thanks for the information I thought he was someone who had said hello to the twins and knew everything we have these people in Sheffield who know someone who knows someone and it's all hear say but you certainly know your stuff
Garry C you are true my friend us British people are going to be made extinct I called my doctors today for an appointment and they told me it would be the 16th of December that's over a month to see a doctor,, if it carries on like this in about 20 years us brits will be searching around for ourselves to live and we will become imegreants even tho we made our own country and what our fathers and grandfather's and so on did so great Britain could be a good home for us British and our children has all gone we have been politicaly envaided and our own government let it happen and our children and their children will suffer so much it's not fair it really isn't
@@davidfitzgerald4683 no he wasnt. he did a few fights wen he was young, (like most gangsters) and got his arse handed to him lol! Reggie was better but still packed it in pretty early
Cornell was a hard man with a bad attitude towards enemies but I know that he was not all bad, not want to go into it but he was like what the krays were or were meant to be, he lived by the code and died by it, but whoever grassed on Ron was going against every thing he stood for
Funny how allot of people have stories about when so and so knocked 1 of the twins out when the twins ain't around anymore. They ruled the east end for a reason.
As with so many of these stories, there is probably some truth in it but Lenny liked to embellish it to make it more dramatic. I would put money on it that Cornell didn't knock Reggie out, and he probably wasn't there when Cornell called him a poof. And he probably didn't knock up 'a bird he was with' lol. That seemed like the icing on the cake for his story that he couldn't resist.
Given how protective the twins were of eachother, i doubt Reggie would have ignored the fact that Cornell had given his brother a beating especially when he saw Ron battered and bruised. Right or wrong the Krays had a reputation to uphold and having their rivals 'muscle' drop one of the Krays i doubt it would have been left to Ronnie to sort it out. Rumours would have been all over the Eastend that the Krays weren't invincible and rival criminals would have taken liberties.
Tia Smedley well said everybody was shit scared of them thats a fact, the amount of bullshit you hear now they are all getting that old they tell a different story everytime they talk about them.
Wilfred Pine who knew both the Krays and Richardson’s has confirmed this story..in that Cornell gave Ronnie a “terrible beating” during a late night in some club.
I seen I'm slap three people in the face with a a fifty pound cod daan at the fish market. Then 'e sat daan 'n ad a plate of bread n drippin' and a mug o' tea. This man's a born raconteur.
Ronnie. It's funny, I think it was Eric Mason (could be wrong) who said they came across Cliff in a pub one night and Ronnie took a shine to him, wanting to know who he was. That story ends with a claim they kept Ronnie away from him but I'm not so sure, given the fact we know Ronnie and Cliff wrote to each other when Ronnie was in prison. Like so much else to do with Cliff Richard, I reckon there is a lot of untold stuff to do with that, and we will probably never know the whole truth.
jack Walsh - he is not on about the shooting for fucks sake - on about the event previous that led to the shooting - which happened in a different pub - is it that hard to understand? 😂
