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Blackfish does work, Jamie took riverrun in the books, that's when blackfish dies in the show, he escaped in the books, some things from season 6 has already happened in the books remember
@@jonoc3729 Yeah Barristan's is mostly just a secondary character to Dany. The only reason he was a POV was to have eyes of what's going on in Meereen. He's probably either going to die in the Battle of Fire, or just lose POV status when his purpose is over and Dany has returned
@Rahat Uddin Mohammad why would we worry about the final book? We haven't even got this one yet? I mean isn't that like putting the cart before the horse or something ? doesn't make a lot of sense
I actually expect it to release this year. I heard he couldn't release the books because the show was still running and the showrunners wouldn't let him. Now that the show has ended, there won't be any problem.
George is a GOAT. He’s had a tough life, and I respect him in all different levels. Give this man a break he may not be the most productive author, but he’s in the middle of making history if he needs ten years for the next book then.... well if it finishes better then the show then why hate.
Because he has taken so long someone else will have to finish it for him, and we'll never know what the full story would have been like if he wrote it all himself.
@@nameless458 Exactly, and Georges said "they killed a character that i have not killed", Catelyn Stark was definitely killed in the books just like in the show, the difference in the books is that she was revived afterward.
@@sandisithebe673 You do have a point... But at the same time, while he somehow escaped the battle of blackwater, he still got horribly scared for life.
Name one. Just finished reading dance. I can’t think of a single character that lived in the show but died in the book. Dondarion trading his life for stoneheart is net neutral since Kat is dead in the show.
About the character that's alive in the books, but dead in the show: i've read many comments, but everyone keeps forgetting Mago. He specifically advised them not to kill that guy in season 1, as he had plans for him. Small character, but still, he went out of his way to try and keep him alive in the show. So there might be a slight chance it's him.
I feel like the ultra condensed Danny v Dothraki 2.0 storyline we got in the show would've been the same regardless of whether they kept Mago around or not, as far as they were concerned, so much was merged together, and so many stories altered and cut that they just needed a vague horse lord stand in . . . I also feel like Its not going to be THAT huge of an unexpected story progression in the book other than a more fleshed out story of self re-discovery for Danny, for which Mago ain't all that important but a means to an ends?
I hate how the self proclaimed "diehard" fans of the show justify Stannis's character development. "He was always a bad man, greedy for power, that's why he burned his own daughter" never ever was it stated that he pursued the crown for power. He always said it was his duty, and he never asked for it. Gtfo with your bs interpretations. The showrunners basically admitted it when they said they never liked Stannis. That's why they got rid of him so cheaply
@What ? Where do u got that idea that George was planning to kill Stannis in the battle of Winterfell? Afaik book 6 isn't out yet and I haven't read about any statements of George about it. And sry it IS their fault, how come two writers with a huge budget can't write shit on their own? Good writers would make their own logical story, with help of other people. But they aren't good writers, as we all know since season 8
@What ? Season 1 to 4 where the best. And that's because they faithfully followed GRRM's work. Starting in S5 D&D began making their own story mixed in with A Dance with Dragons. Season 6 to 8 are just terrible. Each one worse than the one before ending in the pile of dog shit that was S8
@What ? ok buddy...S5 is faithful to the books? Haha So Jon Snow in S5 goes to hardhome himself to save the wildlings, that happened in the books? It does not. He only gets a letter describing the massacre that took place there. But the show needed the scene right? Big hero fighting the big baddy. Jon is more a of a general than a soldier in ADWD, spending more time planning than fighting. Fighting the battles in his head rather than with his sword. Clearly I did not read the books, yeah... Another one, Brienne. So she goes straight to Winterfell to save Sansa, who in the books is not even sansa, they don't even THINK is sansa, they think it's arya and in reality is Jeyne Poole. What happened to all of brienne's and pod's story against the brotherhood in S5? I guess I missed that episode then... Stannis burns his daughter in S5... if I remember correctly by the end of ADWD his army wants to burn asha, not his daughter, and he is AGAINST burning and does not go through with it, he might in TWOW but that book is not out yet, so yeah clearly that's not a faithful representation on Stannis in S5 where he burns his fucking DAUGHTER. In the books he actually leaves a statement saying that should he die his daughter MUST get the Iron throne. Yeah, I did not read the books... Let' talk about Tyrion's story now. Jorah is the one that contracts Grey Scale in S5, i must have read the name Griff as Jorah in ADWD then, how stupid of me. In reality Jorah in S5 is actually a mix of Sir Connington and Jorah and after S5 he basically becomes Ser Baristan. Tyrion's whole plot of ADWD is underwhelming in the show because they nicked Young Griff, the false dragon. You know, the one that Varys wants in power in the books. But in S5 Varys wants Daenerys...yeah I clearly did not read the books. And there is more, SO much more to say but man I'm tired of writting. But please...do tell me how I have not read the books again.
@What ? Your words dude: "S5 and 6 were following very closely" I gave you FACTS about how S5 did not follow "very closely" (those are your words, see them in the comment YOU made). So good on you to try to twist the meaning of what you said from very closely to not at all. You did a whole 180° just to call me a dumbass. You sir, are the perfect example of a You Tube comment section. Go ahead and live your life thinking you won an internet argument if it makes you happy, but next time try to not twist your words to fit your insults and narrative. So long.
And now the real fans can go back to nerding on the real story. Unlike the show, at least it'll be well written and a real joy... Unless Euron gets a tentacle up every bum across Westeros. I can't wait to read more about Rickon in Skagos.
Why is he your favorite? I think he's a real interesting character but I don't get why he has so many fans, specially considering how he's disliked by most other characters in the books. Tyrion literally says "no one likes Stannis".
@Matt I'm around book two of the series and Rickon is pretty feral, he' s as grumpy and vicious as Shagydog. It would be interesting if he does something with that.
mr illis well....mostly no but somewhat yes. According to the pink letter stannis is dead but obviously that’s not legitimate. Winds of winter sample chapters seem to be building up to a surprise stannis win though, despite their poor odds
@@ronnietornado396 well, actually all the odds are with Stannis, thats what makes it really weird... he has the numbers, he is defending, he has a lot of surprises for the Bolton scum.
lordcommander that was a joke. But 9 years is a long time. If he takes 9 years for the last book, you might as well believe that it isn’t coming out unless it is posthumously. I don’t think 2 books is enough to finish the story. The endgame isn’t there yet. All of the pieces are strewn across the map. Daenerys will probably make it to Westeros or be on the way at the end of Winds of Winter. Aegon will be king 🤴in the next book.
Oven Mitts I’ll be so disappointed. I could see him and Victorian facing off which might be a good match. I feel like all of the later POVS are bound for death. It would be refreshing to see George maybe take someone like Baristan further into the story and not conclude his story in Meereen. I imagine he will eventually die and Dany will have no more advisors when she loses her mind, but i would like to see him and Dany at least bond for a while. The only way i see him dying is by being deceived somehow.
I so so so SO hope it's MYRCELLA. I think an arc with Tommen dying and her becoming Queen would be a fascinating arc for her. Especially if her gentle nature and genuine regard for the small folk makes her a beloved ruler. Would complicate things further for Dany, definitely.
If Tommen died then the 7 Kingdoms wouldn't want a Queen. There was a big bloody war called the dance of dragons wich was fought over if a women with a higher right over a son should become queen. When Tommen dies, then Stannis becomes King.
This is the thing I am most looking forward to... Also I think those two are much more connected in the books, it's the only rather romantic storyline of the books
I'm pretty sure that's not it. The one with stoneheart is bound to happen because it already started in the last book. But the plot they're talking about were one that he was thinking about making still.
@@Msoldier94 yeah but I mean the one with Jaime... When he leaves to meet her. I don't remember the details since it's been a while but if I remember correctly that was in the last book. After ignoring the message of Cersei.
@@kamelzyadeh490 Lady Stoneheart is 'dead' for all intents and purposes. Using GRRM's own words she - like Beric - would be something of a 'fire wight'. That's why I feel he wouldn't use that word choice if he were trying to dance around it being LSH. GRRM dances around things, but he doesn't necessarily mislead in that way.
Would've made that joke as early as late 2019 - now though it looks like he's on his big 'pre-release' touring circuit and spinning things up for a release sometime in 2020.
@@azsultan_ yeah cd pr would be cool too , and there are a lot of legendary heroes like ser duncan the tall, brandon of the bloody blade or lann the clever explaining how he took casterly Rock.
Ok, but that exact sentence has to be banned from writing Put on the throne who you want to, idc, but don't reason it with Bran having the best story, especially not if he doesn't do anything for two seasons. (I assume he will not do nothing in the books)
IkilledAGhostOnce If only. Lady Stoneheart, all the people who died yet live in the books, the Dire wolf Nymeria.. they really screwed the pooch and butchered this story and made it Hollywood..
@@IkilledAGhostOnce Welp, I think Bran is relatively boring to read, at least in the first two books. But what I meant is that Bran would need to do more than what he did in the show for the last two books. Otherwise it feels even more jarring. In season 7 and 8 he exclusively cringed out the other characters which made the statement ridiculous.
I actually think it might be Barristan, because if I remember correctly, when he died in Season 5 there was a lot of controversy surrounding that decision and even the actor disagreed with his death because the character is still alive in the books. And since Winds of Winter is supposedly going to open up with the Siege of Meereen taking the main focus at the beginning, I can see some kind of plot twist being intertwined during the chaos of that whole affair. But Margaery as well would be another candidate for the plot twist. If anything she may not die like in the show and may survive the Green Trial and have the full force of Highgarden and the Reach rally for her to take down Cersei.
Could be, if Barristan believes Faegon is legit he could switch sides especially if Daeny starts to go mad. The "Treason for gold" could be Barristan joining up with the Golden Company (GRRM has said before prophecy shouldn't be literal so probably won't be a treason for actual financial gain)
@@ViolentMessiah666 Idk, that sounds really out of character for Barristan. If anything if Barristan suspects she could turn sour I think he would be more determined to help her.
@@bebos1262 Mayhaps, his biggest regret with Aerys was he didn't try to do anything when he started going mad. If he tries to help her & she doesn't listen or crosses a line he might think fAegon is a better option to support & technically he has a better claim than hers (the sons of the first son come before the second son or daughter in the line of succession)
@@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive Exactly, plus Varys & Illyrio are trying to pass him off as Rhaegar's son so surrounding him with some of the same people could add to his legitimacy in the eyes of the Westerosi nobles (Jon Connigton as Hand, Barristan as LC of his Kings Guard, mayhaps Gerald Dayne also on his Kings Guard)
@@ViolentMessiah666 Indeed. If Ser Gerold Dayne steals Dawn from Starfall before Joining Aegon VI's Kingsguard, the smallfolk will believe that they have seen Rhaegar and Ser Arthur Dayne reborn. Varys' multiple quotes of illusion, people seeing what they want to see and the power of perception feeds into this possibility.
My guess would be Ser Barristan, who might get the Varys traitor role from the show. He may end up seriously hurting Dany, by leaving her camp for Jon Snow, who's humanity reminds him of his real father, Rhaegar.
Hey its Ryan Condal before HOTD. They were always good friends hearing how they first met and they were probably in talks around this time about a HOTD spin off show.
Everyone's saying character names but he said there's a twist. I don't think the twist is that a character that dies in the show lives in the books. I think there will actually be a twist, meaning something you think will happen doesn't.
Just think, If GRRM hadn't split Feast and Dance I to seperate books, he'd be working on DOS (ironic initials considering George works on a DOS machine) and we'd have ths WOW right now. I just really wanna see if the new book is gonna be published and on book shelves as the massive 1,500 page tome he said it will be.
I had to look up old articles from each season of the show to see which characters were killed off, and here is the list of people the show killed off in seasons 1-5 who are verifiably alive in the text (as opposed to fan theories) of the books: Pyat Pree Xaro Xhoan Daxos Mance Rayder Barristan Selmy Shireen Baratheon Hizdahr zo Loraq Selyse Baratheon Stannis Baratheon Meryn Trant Myrcella Baratheon I don't know if that helps, but it certainly narrows things down. Note: I didn't include Lady Stoneheart, because Catelyn was definitely killed, and as many have noted here, seems to be a different entity. Not to mention that she was left off the show altogether.
@Maester Gryphon yeah I think petyr convinced merillion to take the fall, for gold or for who knows what. But rereading those sansa chapters with a critical eye I'm pretty sure he is a double agent
Marillion is alive. He wore bandages, so you couldn't see his wounds from torture, but in truth, he wore them because he wasn't tortured. He's unharmed and he and Littlefinger had a deal. But Marillion isn't really dead in the show, just missing in action, so idk if George refered to him.
My guess is Littlefinger revealing his lengths of debt collection actually swaying members of even Northern Houses like the Manderlys, getting in the way of the Northern Conspiracy would be an amazing twist to involve the Vale in re-taking the North in a way that makes WAY more sense instead of "Sansa sent a letter and they saved them at the last second in the Battle of the Bastards." Stannis is the reason why Littlefinger has no interest in the North at present, he has the key to Winterfell in Sansa, so it's MARKETEDLY in his interest to ruin BOTH the Boltons and Stannis, so two birds in one fell swoop, using his swathes of debts owed to him from houses, especially the Manderlys, make me think Davvos is going to be betrayed, AGAIN, by House Manderly. (oh they played double agent sure, but it's all posturing to rescue the heir from the Lannisters). Honesty, I can't WAIT to see Stoneheart TEAR through all of House Fray. Black Walder is a character I want to see in my mind's eye dangling from a tree with his toes kicking out.
If I remember it right on the show, when Baelish put Sansa with the Boltons, he said to Sansa that Stannis must be there shortly and then he went to King's Landing to ask Cersei if she would support his attack on Winterfell. So I think he planned to do what he did during the Battle of the Bastards but with the war between Stannis and the Boltons, like wait till they are exausted and attack. Only this time, attack back camps. And bring Sansa with him to place her at Winterfell.
Ledger88 I don’t think that was the ending anyways. Bran might be king of something but I don’t think it’s king of Westeros. He’ll probably be the weirwood King
Surprised to see no one mentioned Aegon.. my intuition somewhy tells me it has to do with him. People also tend to forget he exists in the show too, just that he died way before S1. GRRM might have guessed people would forget he existed. That, of course, if he is actually Aegon. Maybe that's what the twist is about..
I always wondered if a crazy plot twist would be for the Mad King Aerys to be some sort of Night King style figure. Maybe when his body was discarded it was somehow captured and turned into one of the Others. I'm not sure how well that would work with the books as I've seen the show but only read the beginning of AGOT. I personally really like the idea of Aerys being both the ice and fire as well as him being the true big baddie of the story. He would also be the one already dead character George is talking about. Likely is just a wacky fan theory I came up with but it would be awesome
He mentions that one of the characters will go through this twist and it involves couple of other characters which one of them is dead in the show in that period. Almost all the comments I read here are certain that the allegedly dead character is the one who will have this twist, but I think the way George mentioned, actually it is one of the other characters he mentions here.
My guess is that it's about the High Sparrow. He's killed in Season 6 of the show but is still alive in the books and is a rather important character. Nothing is known about his true name or identity, there's quite a bit of mystery surrounding him.
Another old/new video. But part an interview that I haven't seen before. Why not also put the original date into the description? I think that would be interesting, and can't any reason not to.
I think Preston is definitely right, but I don't think that's the 'twist' he's referring to here - he says that the twist involves a handful of characters. The sci-fi twist would involved the entire world. I think the twist he's talking about here involves Mance/glamour/northern conspiracy.
