The russian bots are here in droves. Also, people who say other countrys have this kind of bill: Only Russia has this vague kind of bill and the georgian politician copied it. It can be abused by those in power, while other countrys just need know the who and what. If you still question the severity, ask yourself this: Can any "NGO" not backed by Russia actually work in Russia?
"this vague kind of bill" How vague, exactly? It's not like anyone shows the vague part, or any part of it. Do you even know what's written in that law?
Finally! Someone who did say why the law is problematic! I’d also add that the law enables the Government to launch an investigation on a pretext that anonymous source informed them that the NGO is not disclosing all of their income and costs. Under the investigation they can take all the equipment including private phones of the employees indefinitely. So when they don’t like a critical NGO they can bring them to a standstill.
Well, yeah... All the NGOs should disclose their incomes and costs then! You are literally saying that it's problematic to actually show transparency. Transparency is a good thing. :D
@@BatCountryAdventures Both donors and NGOs are already transparent. Our Ministries, City halls, politicians and judges are not Transparent though. They have massive incomes that come out of nowhere. Something tells me that this law is not about transparency and you are a Russian bot.
She explained that: 1. Just trust me bro, I used to be part of an NGO and I am just a harmless Karen. 2. It hurts our feels to get a label identifying us. 3. It hurts our feels if you don’t think about us as allies. 4. What about Russia?
I am confused here. Here people are raging against the law requiring transparency on foreign financial support to NGOs. All these protestors and this entire report is about being concerned about European values. What? Is it not good to know such a thing? In case some media receives financial support from say China, is it not going to be worth knowing. I mean, come on, let Georgians decide for themselves. What is this sanctions threatening if the law is passed? Is it not an oppression on country who decides for itself? BTW, how are the EU accession processes are going with Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia. I guess the hype is over...
I don't know man, they keep throwing out patriotic slogans that sound good on video, but no one has managed to explain why this law needs to be stopped. Guess you have to be Georgian to understand. Good thing I'm not.
Because the media manipulates and scares people, European politicians are also threatening to cancel visa-free travel. It is not clear why foreign organizations are so worried if there is nothing to hide. On the contrary, they should want everyone to hear about their good deeds. They just know that when they call the law Russian, they will easily persuade people.
DW, I have been part of these protests since DAY 1 and let me tell you, it is not only the youth of Goergia who are protesting, persons as old as 90y.o have been part of demonstrations. The issue of the law is such that it truly transcends generation gap, every Georgian with shred of dignity and perception opposes this abismal clearly Russian law.
Because suddenly the people see that most of their media is sponsored by the West. This german expert in Georgia is also funded by the west and is directly affected by the new law - and of course she doesn't like it.
>What’s the problem with registering media with significant foreign fundings? Imaging all these "As a Georgian I support this " comments or cool media's stories about Georgia while authors marked as "foreign agent"? 😆 And you - "Oh I trust you sooo much, my dear 30-silver-pieces-Georgian"
Many of them, probably. Many of them appear to be outright brainwashed, treating foreign influence and funding as some kind of identity issue. You know, the 'whatever EU says is good and whatever Russians do should be countered' logic. Imagine a couple of kids start terrorizing the streets, telling your elected officials to "do whatever Borrell and Michel are telling you to do, or else", all while trying to escalate further unnecessary Saakashvili style hostilities with Russia, as if it wasn't costly enough for the first time?
Its the naming... Foreign Agent .. its sounds bad and opens people to prosecution and negative opinion... its psychology. NGOs observe elections and report fraud ... they want them gone for the next election to stay in power using whatever means. why not call it Foreign workers ... because it sounds normal.
usa has a similar law but if Georgia makes one it is a big problem?? . European parliament members holding speeches of support for the demonstrators there smells like a 2014 maidan. How would the west react if Russian parliamentarians would come to support western anti-government demonstrations and hold speeches of support there?
To the people who say other countrys have this kind of bill: Only Russia has this vague kind of bill and the georgian politician copied it. It can be abused by those in power, while other countrys just need know the who and what. If you still question the severity, ask yourself this: Can any "NGO" not backed by Russia actually work in Russia?
It looks like Georgians will be heading to another dictatorship like Russia. It also seems that the inmense majority of the people in Georgia want to be part of the EU but Russia is doing all it can to stop the will of Georgians.
Only Russia has this vague kind of bill and the georgian politician copied it. It can be abused by those in power, while other countrys just need know the who and what. If you still question the severity, ask yourself this: Can any "NGO" not backed by Russia actually work in Russia?
The NGOs of Georgia have done a Great job creating this movement ,its their job. Divide and conquer. What is disturbing how so many people don't see their true role in their lives. Did they not learned anything from their work in Ukraine 10 years ago? Do they wish the same thing to happen to them? JUst asking.
The real issue is they name you as an "Agent of Foreign Influence". Then they can sneak in laws that limit freedom of the press by using that terminology.
This is how Russia removed every foreign news agency. To controll the narrative. This is only step one. Unlike the Russian population the Georgians are not pushovers.
How is it that knowing who is from outside Georgia financing political actors with in Georgia become anti democratic act. If there is definition of Schizophrenia this is it. I stand with 90% of mentally healthy people of Georgia , you have right to know who is financing whom from outside your country may it be from Russia, EU, Amerika or somebody else. Information is empowering you and does who want to deny it to you (in this case EU)is not your friend. Qui bono (who benefit) from denying that information to you.
I don’t see the problem with knowing who’s funding your news. If, for example, funding is coming from Russia, that’s something you would think would be a cause for concern . Unless you want to be aligned with them.
The issues is not with the disclosing part, the issue here is that if you get brand an enemy of the state (because you are getting money from another state) then the government can take measures against you(mostly of the violent/non pleasurable kind). So if you are not singing their song, you are the enemy.
Its the naming... Foreign Agent .. its sounds bad and opens people to prosecution and negative opinion... its psychology. NGOs observe elections and report fraud ... they want them gone for the next election to stay in power using whatever means. why not call it Foreign workers ... because it sounds normal.
@@georgikrustev3737 I agree with not necessarily labelling someone an enemy unless they outright advocate for something that would destabilize the state but I think it would be good to still list them as a foreign influence
The funny thing is USA has the same law , for close to 100 years, but yet again nobody tells the Georgians the truth. Georgians dont be used as the ukrainians.
EU r not happy cause then they know who are interfering in the affairs eg EU US it’s a good law cause it’s the NGOs funded by EU and US probably causing all that unrest
All those "Totally not the CIA, trust me bro"-NGOs would have to out themselves as such. We, as in the West, don't want that since it would essentially cut us off from influencing local politics and are now using exactly those NGOs to incite paid protests and even a nice regime change. Basically exactly what this law sought to curtail.
It’s not really about that. Even if NGO isn’t receiving any funding from overseas at all, government is able to initiate a process of inspection of that org. According to this law they are allowed to collect any type of data, including personal information. And they can do this once in every 6 months. There is no specific reason they need to start an inspection. In short it’s a tool to suppress orgs they don’t like.
@@nikolozbuligini9646 How is it opression? If a inspection comes to your house, you show them your 2-5 rooms, your car, etc. and that‘s it. US social media and digital banking system knows much more of every single citizen than that. And if they want to collect all data, they have to prioritize their collection concentrating on only 3-10 people at the same time. Their collecting of data is more like once or never to happen. If someone puts himself on the list of receivers of foreign money, he has nothing to fear, except the lost support of the people,… which by the way would be democratically correct. Why on earth should it be allowed for George Sorosh with his money to manipulate foreign countries into a war against any other country? I wish all countries would have that law. Why not, if the USA and GB already have it too?! They had it before Russia.
@@nikolozbuligini9646 what can they do with the collected data? Why this is suppressed ngo? Are they able to arrest members or shutting down org with this law? Isn’t government already able to collect personal data including all financial data for tax? Probably also social media data by just asking Facebook?
Only Russia has this vague kind of bill and the georgian politician copied it. It can be abused by those in power, while other countrys just need know the who and what. If you still question the severity, ask yourself this: Can any "NGO" not backed by Russia actually work in Russia?
DW should support Georgian democratically elected institutions and rule of law, by law, and not the mob rule. Btw, it's very sad to see these young people manipulated by empty promises of EU future - Georgia will not join the EU in their lifetime....
isn't that lady from The German Marshall Fund of the United States (GMF) a foreign agent from the German perspective? Or is the DW itself a foreign agent?
Because the government will selectively investigate random pro-western youtubers while turning a blind eye towards Russia Today and similar media. The law does mention EU and US as potentially dangerous foreign influences, but conveniently forgets Russia, which is occupying parts of Georgia. The whole law is a desparate ploy by the government to stay in power, turning towards authoritarianism and Russia rather than losing the elections and joining the EU.
@@DSAK55Russia play blame game with all minorities since 200 years to control more territories. Russia created the hate between Turk ,azeris and Armenians. At the end russia will be a part GOD WELLING . God will crash putins communism
Well the youth are ripe for conscription I supposed, when the west would destroy the Georgian state. They should be taking cue not align with wrong side.
If you're being funded by someone, it 100% means you're carrying out their interests. To think otherwise is increadibly naive. Seems like good legislation.
LOL! This is the Vice President of the German Marshal Fund! The German Marshal Fund FFS!!! Does DW not even care about journalistic integrity or fair reporting anymore? :D I am literally watching this very video with the "DW is a German public broadcast service". How is this at all problematic? Transparency is good!
If these lawmakers believe in the law, walk out into the streets and have a conversation about it with the people you represent. Easy to be bold behind a fence in your ivory tower.
I am sure there are enough donation from India for orphans to get a decent life, human trafficking issues, poverty, tribal rights issue, wild life issues etc etc. not everything is interference, if a foreign power wants to interfere in the age of technology and global market they can find a way. Some times people just want to help and do some thing good. When will we stop seeing children in the street begging or working? It’s been more than 70 years the present gov already had 2 continuous terms that’s a significant time in a child’s life. So put it simple India still gets donation from abroad including from lot from Indian diaspora. Unless the money is used against national interest gov should not interfere on NGO life. There r people who have dedicated to do good if foreign funds help then what’s the problem, just because some one will misuse donation doesn’t mean good people and NGO should be affected.
This october georgians will give their vote again for their lawmakers if georgian dream win or able to form a government coalition just like now its means the will of people
Be careful Georgia. EU = Investment opportunities = Protect those investments = NATO. Learn from Ukraine. I understand that young people would love to work in all those EU countries but there is a high risk. Negotiate a security agreement with the EU and Russia and you will get your investments.
BS. There is no law in the US that requires people to declare to the government foreign investment in a private company, to declare it as interference from a foreign power. Total nonsense, we see foreign investment as a good thing, it's called FDI, foreign direct investment. Even human rights watch agencies are speaking out about this. Get real and get a clue.
@@RazorMouth It is explicitly said in FARA that you should disclose foreign investment and connections. The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) is a United States law that imposes public disclosure obligations on persons representing foreign interests.[1][2] It requires "foreign agents"-defined as individuals or entities engaged in domestic lobbying or advocacy for foreign governments, organizations, or persons ("foreign principals")-to register with the Department of Justice (DOJ) and disclose their relationship, activities, and related financial compensation.
Our law isn't based on Russia's and isn't used to lock up anyone you don't like without having to prove anything, comrade. You'd know the difference if you weren't in Russia.
How many? When you say georgian youths are this and that then that mean german youths are drugs addicted. Why this criminal generalisation when is not the case? Dw is becoming low and low in information.
I just don't understand what the problem with this law is. Why wouldn't you want to know if a news org in your country is funded from outside entities??
Bcs it's just an excuse to control the media, they're not being honest. I mean, the official name of North Korea is the democratic people's Republic of Korea. But you don't actually believe it's a democracy I hope.
The problem is that the government wants to use this law as a tool to suppress orgs they don’t like. It’s not about transparency, it never was. If the government was caring about it, they would have started making themselves transparent.
The problem with this law is that it is very similar to Russia's "foreign influence laws". It can be used as a cover-up to close any NGO's the government doesn't agree with, like LGBTQ+ organisations. It's not about transparency, it's about control.
The law includes parts that say that if the government has any suspicion of espionage or some other b"bad actovory" they can seize all equipment the news agency posses and effectively shut them down. While if used in the right cases it may sound good, generally this is the same way dictatorships shut down the media
After the Global Fiasco in Afghanistan American led west does it again... As Russians are in their way to inflict a STRATEGIC DEFEAT and Global Humiliation on those who thought they could win over nuclear armed Russia on the battlefield! 😂😂😂😂😂
This law is quite reasonable to protect sovereignty of any country. As whole world know west and powerful countries invest to unsettle countries when its not friendly to west. So this this a good bill to protect Georgia's sovereignty long term.
Do you know what the abbreviation NGO stands for? If so, you should understand that they are not controlled by governments. Name a few such organizations that you consider problematic.
Legitimate government doing legitimate things. Wait for the elections (where there will be no EU or USA interference🤭) then do what people voted you for.
Georgian people's dreams will become closer to reality when also Armenians, Azerbaijani, Kazakhstan etc people also want to distance from Putin's sadistic ambitions.
isn't that lady from The German Marshall Fund of the United States (GMF) a foreign agent from the German perspective? Or is the DW itself a foreign agent?
says the one dismissing every civilian protesting and sucking up to a couple of politician instead. Sure the millions protestic are the payed ones, not the few bought politicians that act in putlers favor.