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GEPRC MK5D O3 Review (vs. iFlight Nazgul/Evoque) Best 5 inch FPV Drone Frame for DJI O3 Air Unit? 

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In my search for the best 5" FPV Drone frame designed specifically for the DJI O3 Air Unit I considered the iFlight Nazgul, Nazgul Evoque, Speedy Bee MK5, Flyfish Volador, and the GEPRC MK5D (Mark 5 Deadcat).
I think I made the right choice but I would love to hear your opinions if you think I missed something or if there is a better 5" deadcat frame out there...
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@bam8208
@bam8208 10 месяцев назад
Love your channel. Such a clean build. You deserve way more followers, so keep it up! I’m using this as inspiration for my build. Mine is very similar only major difference is I’m using the apex evo dc frame.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 10 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot for that, I really appreciate it! I'm not familiar with that frame so I'll have a look at it. How do you like it?
@ruebenfilmz
@ruebenfilmz 8 месяцев назад
Thanks, some info needed at this time. Im a fan Geprc. Stellar. Cheers
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 8 месяцев назад
Awesome, that's good to know. Thanks a lot for watching!
@djaseniro
@djaseniro 5 месяцев назад
I just finished my mark 4 build with a caddx nebula pro vista set up it turned out pretty clean 🥰
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 5 месяцев назад
Nice, I love the Mark4 frame, super simplistic with sexy lines. GepRC was clearing out those frames a few months ago but I missed their sale, did you grab that frame during their fire sale?
@MattysDroneWorld
@MattysDroneWorld Год назад
Nice content! new sub here...As a Nazgul Evoque owner, I love it, but I do wish it would fit an o3 air unit...they make a newer version, but its a 6 inch..See ya on the next one!
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Hey Matty, thanks a lot for that! I see you have some awesome drone content over on your channel so I'll see you over there too! The Evoque looks pretty friggin' awesome the way iFlight build it, that one in the video I got from the RaceDay Quads clearance section last Black Friday, couldn't pass it up on that sale, but I haven't even had a chance to fly it! So many drones, so little time...I think there is a V2 of the 5" Evoque frame designed for the O3... shop.iflight-rc.com/drone-frame-cat346/Evoque-F5-V2-Frame-Kit-Pro1887 I'm also interested in the 5" Chimera frame. It's way cheaper and way lighter, probably not as durable and definitely not as pretty, but for a filming platform I bet it would be a great option, and with a GoPro Bones and efficient motors it would fly forever...
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
MK5D BNF 👉 bit.ly/MK5DC MK5D Frame 👉 bit.ly/MK5DCF 5% off coupon at GEPRC 👉 fpv5
@fabiangraf5381
@fabiangraf5381 2 месяца назад
Hey, awesome video. Do you think there is a way to fit the old DJI Air Unit in this frame? It seams like there is no space in the back due to the XT60 connector. Maybe it is possible to mount the Air Unit above the FC in the front and move the ESC back to where the o3 vtx belongs?
@DronePsyche
@DronePsyche 5 месяцев назад
Mark 5 Pro frame X or DC is one of the best frames to work with regardless if you’re installing OG vista or an O3. Between the Mark5 and Speedybee stack, you get absolutely everything you need to build.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 5 месяцев назад
I totally agree, even with all the competition out there this is still one of the best frames you can get, and the DC version has loads of space to work with 👍
@michelguerrerostudios
@michelguerrerostudios Год назад
It will be amazing with the headtracking system!
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Which head tracking system do you mean?
@hombredelfuturo_888
@hombredelfuturo_888 Год назад
Just got mine 2 days ago, this baby is sweet 😈
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
I totally agree, it's the best quad I've ever flown so far...I'm getting amazing footage with that O3 air unit! My favorite quad for many years was a GEPRC MK4 (analog) and that's what made me go for the MK5 and I'm glad I did 🤘
@stratometer
@stratometer Год назад
Just a thought, ditch the finder beeper and put in a gpsmate with a shielded cable then you don't have to power up and wait for satellites, you just turn on the gps first for the required time
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
That's a great idea, its exactly the setup I have on my 7" Foxeer Aurora, and I guess if you're going to install a powered buzzer it might as well be a GPS mate. I do get stats super quickly where I fly because I live in the mountains with no interference and that GEPRC GPS module is awesome.
@ireshekanayake4844
@ireshekanayake4844 Год назад
I am about to buy my first fpv and was choosing between mark5 and mark5D and I think your explanation close the deal for 5D. Question though, geprc site does not say if it can carry a gopro8 (it says yes for naked gopro8)but 9 and10. Can it hold a full gopro8? Also, how much is gps unit and TPU ?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Hi Iresh, thanks for watching! You can't go wrong with the GEPRC MK5D! As far as the weight of the GOPro, with a powerful 5" quad like this it can handle the weight of a full GoPro just fine. Of course it will be a little more agile and have a little longer flights without a GoPro or with a naked GoPro or GoPro Bones, but this quad can handle with weight no problem. I fly mine with a GoPro Mini and it does great. The TPU mount is $3 and the GPS Unit is about $20. Here's the link and if you order from GEPRC you can use code "fpv5" to save 5% 👍 bit.ly/GEPM10
@lopesdev
@lopesdev 11 месяцев назад
Hey thanks for your video. Im with a problem, i can only get that orange Mark5 for now in europe without gps, all gps out of stock. Nagul f5d is available with gps. Wich one would you recomment for me getting? Also can you tell if you recomend 6s 1300 or 1500mha and how much flight time do you get? Thank you
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
Hey there, just saw your comment! My opinion: if you want to build up your own, go with GEPRC, the frame is nicer and easier to work with, and you can add a GPS pretty easily and it is only $20 and the GPS mount is $3. If you do go GEPRC please use code "fpv5" for 5% off! if you want to buy a pre-built drone, the iFlight Nazgul is also a great option. I am partial to GEPRC but the Nazgul is a solid, proven platform with loads of people flying it...you can check out there Facebook group, loads of dedicated iflight flier out there! Basically they are both top notch, and are both arguably some of the top 5" FPV drones so there is no bad choice here. As for batteries, both of those will work. I would go with 63 1300mah, but 1500mah will give you a bit more flight time. You might get 4-5 minutes on the 1300, 6-7 minutes on the 1500, a bit less if you are really hammering the throttle. If you really can't decide, just get 2 of each, and use the 1300mah if you ever carry a GoPro. I recommend CNHL, they are cheap, they have good sales with coupon codes, and they have an EU warehouse. Good luck with it!
@robovsesvit
@robovsesvit 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your video. Is it version GEPRC GEP-MK5X O3 Squashed X Or This GEPRC GEP-MK5D O3 Frame DC which better to choose? Is it huge difference between them?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
The "X" frame is optimized for freestyle and you will see props in view, while the Deadcat or "DC" is optimized for filming and you will not see props in view. Honestly, the real world flight characteristics are so subtle that hobby pilots like myself would never be able to tell the difference.... go DC is my opinion! Here is the BNF Drone bit.ly/MK5DC and here is the Frame bit.ly/MK5DCF Thanks for your comment, really appreciate it!
@robovsesvit
@robovsesvit 11 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv Thank you so much for your recomendation. Tell me please which diametr of tube nylon protection did you use?
@Lil_rem
@Lil_rem 11 месяцев назад
Hi! Good video 😊 I was about to order the Volador but you made me doubt about it, especially on its weight ahaha I went back on the site and the weight of the Volador VD5 is 186.4 grams (TPU included) The GEP-MK5D frame is 168 grams (in standard version) and 197 grams in pro version (with all the TPU) So the volador is still a bit lighter
@Lil_rem
@Lil_rem 11 месяцев назад
And the Volador is a bit less expensive 😅
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
You make some good points - Flyfish released a V2 of the volador frame just a few days after I made this video, and I was comparing to the V1. Note that the frame you are looking at says "II", and the original volador is now in the clearance section. The OG volador came in at 205.3g. You can't go wrong with either one, but I love my MK5D!
@ajjamil1627
@ajjamil1627 5 месяцев назад
Was planning to build one with SpeedyBee F405 V4 BLS 55A 30x30-Stack. Any thoughts or advice in comparison?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 5 месяцев назад
I've heard great things about that stack and of course 55s is more than enough for a 5inch so you should be good! I like to add GPS but that's just me...
@omar_alami
@omar_alami 11 месяцев назад
what props are you using in this build. love the video.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot! I'm using GepRC's 4.3 pitch, they're called 5x4.3x3. I've tried others but these are my favorite, smooth and not too noisy and good flight times. Worth mentioning that I live at high altitude so your mileage may vary... I tend to favor more aggressive pitch props and I like faster cruise speed. If you live at sea level you might or might not prefer a lower pitch prop, but these are a great starting point and they're 50% off so you can't go wrong. You can use code "fpv5" for 5% off if you want to buy anything on GepRc's site. My fav props 👉 bit.ly/43prop
@omar_alami
@omar_alami 10 месяцев назад
thanks @@colibrifpv
@shingoburg
@shingoburg 7 месяцев назад
Hi, I love your video. I had a prebuilt Nazgul that I lost and I now want to build my first FPV drone. I want to use the exact same parts as you showed in the video, but as I‘m new to building FPV-Drones I have a few questions: 1) Can you recommend a building tutorial which works with the components you showed in the video? 2) What props can you recommend? 3) What do you mean by changing the ESC to 48khz? How and why can I do that?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 7 месяцев назад
Hey, thanks for the kind words! Too bad you lost your Nazgul, I've been there, and it sucks, but it's part of the hobby... Sure thing, get right back to you when I'm in front of a computer!
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 7 месяцев назад
Hey! 1)For your first build, you might want to consider Joshua Bardwell's kit that comes with everything you need, he also has an amazing build series of videos on RU-vid directed at beginners... you might save a few bucks buying the parts separately, but it will be SOOOO much easier to walk through the steps in that build series, no other RU-vid videos will come close! You can get either the Analog or HD-Ready kit (you will have to buy your own DJI O3) bit.ly/JB_Digital bit.ly/JB_Analog 2) Props depend on your style and preference but you will want 5 inch, around 3.5 pitch, and 3 bladed, which are pretty standard, something like 5x3.5x3 3) That's ESC firmware, only necessary to update that setting if you run the DJI O3 Air Unit. You need to download BLHeli configurator and then you plug your ESC/stack in via usb. Like I said, you will avoid loads of pitfalls by following JB's videos. Good luck!
@shingoburg
@shingoburg 7 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv Thank you for your advice! I like the look of the drone that you built much more than the JB one. Do you think that its possible to build your drone with the video tutorial from JB? Also can you recommend a youtube tutorial for the ESC-change?
@Ryan-Tv-Show
@Ryan-Tv-Show 6 месяцев назад
In this frame, is there room for the nano rx ? And is there a tpu gps support delivered with the frame ?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely, there is plenty of room for just about any rx, and it even comes with a 3d printed mount! The GPS mount is not included with the frame kit, you have to but it separately and it costs $3. Look at the replacement parts and you'll find it in the drop down list.
@Ryan-Tv-Show
@Ryan-Tv-Show 6 месяцев назад
Hello my friend ! You said at one point in your video that this frame was made of carbon ? Wouldn't it be more of an aluminum alloy ?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 6 месяцев назад
Hey Ryan! FPV drones are pretty much always made out of carbon fiber, except smaller micros, which may be made out of plastic. It has to do with weight versus strength and cost. There are reasons why they are not made out of aluminum but I don't remember....people have tried it in the past and it has never stuck... weight or strength I suppose. Thanks for watching!
@aarondodson1261
@aarondodson1261 8 месяцев назад
I went with the evoque
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 8 месяцев назад
If you are going for a BNF the Evoque is not a bad option, if you are a builder I think the GEPRC Mk5 is hard to beat. Both are awesome drones. Enjoy it!
@ireshekanayake4844
@ireshekanayake4844 Год назад
I already got a Dji controller 2 because I thought it will be compatible with dji 03. Can I use crossfire with it? Sorry I am very new so it maybe a dumb question. Thanks for your detailed video yo
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
No worries about the questions, to be honest, FPV has a really steep learning curve and there are a lot of things that are illogical or not obvious at first, such as the fact that many DJI products are incompatible with each other, but if you have the Remote 2 (the grey joystick style one, not the huge black one, that WILL work with the O3 air unit, and you should start with that just to keep things simple[article linked below] No, it will not work with crossfire, that will require a crossfire radio module or a crossfire-specific radio like the Tango 2. As your fleet grows you will probably want to adopt either crossfire or ELRS, crossfire is super reliable but not the cheapest and often out of stock. ELRS is open source and is quickly becoming the market leader so it may be more future-proof. I would recommend starting off with DJI remote because you already have it, then adopting ELRS down the road. Here's an article on DJI compatibility: oscarliang.com/dji-o3-air-unit-fpv-goggles-2/#:~:text=The%20O3%20Air%20Unit%20includes,receiver%20like%20Crossfire%20or%20ExpressLRS.
@ireshekanayake4844
@ireshekanayake4844 Год назад
@@colibrifpv you are amazing mate. I am already a huge fan. Much love
@stratometer
@stratometer Год назад
I built up the nazgul, geprc and the speedybee hd. I agree iflight electronics suck, not enough gold on their pads so very hard to get solder to stick. Don't be put off by the Speedybee soft mount, it absolutely rocks with an o3 and speedybee f4 fc. The speedybee and geprc mk5 pro are different but such beautiful builds
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
That's good to know about the Speedybee, I'll give it a second look, and it looks like they just came out with a V2. I love my iFlight motors and frames, but I also pass on their electronics. Hit up Diatone when they're having a sale and you can't go wrong!
@stratometer
@stratometer Год назад
@@colibrifpv agree the mamba boards are very reliable .. have you tried setting up a gpsmate wiring harness? Its a game change for me, i get to our quarry spot flick on all my gpsmate models sitting in a flat rock, they can sit there for the first 5 minutes getting sats while i warm up with a basher. Nothing at risk of overheating
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@stratometer I do have a GPS Mate on my Foxeer 7" build, and it works super well, but I had space in the back so it was convenient. On this build it had to go up front, so not quite as convenient for the wiring. I shielded the wires with copper foil and it gets sats pretty fast, but I live in the Andes Mountains at really high elevation. Next time I probably will use a GPS mate just because if you go to the hassle of wiring up a powered buzzer might as well do it right!
@andifu1630
@andifu1630 Год назад
Hello, i buy the component same like yours. The fc f7 app mamba cant turnon the gps only plugin with pc, must use battery. Is it same condition same like your?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Hi there Andi, yes that is pretty common that the GPS will only power up when a lipo is connected. You might want to look into the Vifly GPS mate, which will power the GPS from an external battery. This allows you to get a GPS lock before you connect your lipo so your VTX doesn't over heat, and also provides a safety measure in case your battery is disconnected in a crash it will keep the GPS working. I hope you get yours setup correctly, let me know how it goes!
@kazudrone1098
@kazudrone1098 Год назад
congratualations my friend........nice video and content. i have a cinelog25 with DJI O3 system. i very like. i new sud here. see you in the next vídeo.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Hey there Kazu, thanks a lot for watching, I appreciate your support! I really like the cinelog25, the 2.5 inch size is small enough to fly indoors and big enough to carry a GoPro Bones when you need it! How was the build? Do you get jello in the 03 footage? Cheers!
@harry8156
@harry8156 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! Which GPS module was compatible with the Geprc GPS mount? I would love to get one
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
I used the M8U GPS module, which was a perfect fit. Now that the M10 module are out, you might want to opt for an M10 unit. I checked the product page and the standard M10 Module, i.e., the one on this page the one that is $19.99 (bit.ly/GEPM10) is the exact same size at 22mm x 22mm x 8mm, so it should also fit the GEPRC GPS mount no problems. Good luck!
@harry8156
@harry8156 11 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv thank you so much for the reply! I’ll definitely have to grab one either way! The peace of mind of a GPS fail safe offers is pretty exciting
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
@@harry8156 Yeah, GPS is a must for any expensive quad nowadays, and for $20 it's a no-brainer!
@LAMB_SAUCE
@LAMB_SAUCE Год назад
Just ordered one myself ( I come from DJI FPV Combo ) so I will use same goggles v2 and remote controller 2 🙃 can’t wait so hard, DJI FPV is absolutely amazing until you fly real freestyle drone - still I would recommend it to everyone as a first drone. It’s extremely rookie friendly, forgiving and ret4rd proof.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
It sounds like you took a pretty good path into FPV by going DJI -> full freestyle drone. There is a pretty steep learning curve and I lost my first drone while I was learning (outran the analog VTX, rookie mistake that is easy to do). You should install a GPS unit, it's the best $20 you'll ever spend, mine has saved me already when I lost video feed by flying behind a mountain! Hope. you like your MK5, I am loving mine!
@LAMB_SAUCE
@LAMB_SAUCE Год назад
@@colibrifpv can’t wait for some proper hang time and peaceful inverted yaw spins
@LAMB_SAUCE
@LAMB_SAUCE Год назад
@@colibrifpv all I’m worried about is settings it all up and setting up rates in some softwares I think it’s called beta flight not in the goggles settings
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@LAMB_SAUCE There is a lot to learn at the beginning, but just take it one step at a time and it will all make sense soon. It sounds like you bought the BNF from GEPRC, right? If so, DO NOT update Betaflight, GepRC has already tuned it perfectly for you, all you should do is activate the DJI Air Unit, bind your goggles to the AU, bind your radio, and you are good to go! What radio system are you using, DJI, ELRS, or crossfire?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@LAMB_SAUCE The MK5 flies super well, arguably the best freestyle quad you can get right now, you will love it!
@cuh_cuh7975
@cuh_cuh7975 Год назад
Great video, thinking about ordering one. I crashed my DJI FPV, but I still have the googles and the v2 remote. Can you please tell what I need to hook everything up please
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Sure, no problem! I'm assuming you have the goggles V2, right? The good news is that both those goggles and the V2 remote are compatible with the O3 Air Unit. On the GEPRC Page, select "PNP" and either 4s or 6s, according to which batteries you prefer [bit.ly/MK5DC]. When you get the drone, you will just need to bind the goggles and the transmitter to the air unit. You will need to upgrade the firmware on the goggles, but that's no big deal. Here's a handy chart from Oscar Liang showing compatibility between DJI products: [oscarliang.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/dji-compatibility-goggles-2-v1-v2-O3-Air-Unit-vista-link-remote-controller-avata-drone-update-feb-2023.jpg ] You will love this drone. it's awesome!
@cuh_cuh7975
@cuh_cuh7975 Год назад
@@colibrifpv they have it on sale for $479
@cuh_cuh7975
@cuh_cuh7975 Год назад
@@colibrifpv yes sir thank you I’m getting it from rc-wing…I didn’t see the pnp all it said by the NO then Frsky RX (+$18)(LA0083)Radiolink RX (+$15)(LA0041)ELRS(+$15)(LA0261)
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@cuh_cuh7975 If it's $479 you're looking at something else...if you have the V2 goggles, feel free to choose the Vista system or the O3. The Vista will be cheaper, the O3 will be better quality and more future proof. On this page bit.ly/MK5DC, you can select color and under "options" you can select 46 or 6s and you preferred receiver. "PNP" is the cheapest because it means no receiver, i.e., you will use the DJI system. All there drones have the PNP option I think, unless the other options happen to be sold out...
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@cuh_cuh7975 If its $479 then it's not the O3 version, but the Vista version will still work fine with your V2 Goggles and V2 remote. You can use code "fpv5" at checkout for 5% off 👍
@Reverb1233
@Reverb1233 11 месяцев назад
Hello sir can you make a build video of geprc mark 5 or please can you recommend any video related to building this drone?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
Hi, well the frame goes together pretty easily according to the instructions, and any build video will apply in general, such as any of Joshua Bardwell's build videos. A few tips: 1, if you are new to soldering, get a practice board sand practice practice practice before you solder on an expensive flight controller. 2, study your Flight Controller documentation and map out all your wiring on paper before you actually start. It will really help with soldering and wire management 3, take your time, your first build comes with a HUGE learning curve, so just take it slowwww...
@Reverb1233
@Reverb1233 11 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv Thank you sir. ❤️
@KanchaFPV
@KanchaFPV Год назад
One of the underdog quad in fpv world
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
I totally agree, I am absolutely loving the quad I built up with this frame, it's my current favorite of my fleet to fly...
@pottyputter05
@pottyputter05 Год назад
It's definitely superior to the iflight evoque in digital
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@pottyputter05 My experience has been that GEPRC is SUPER solid...there BNF's comes tuned to perfection, never had a problem with there electronics, etc. iFlight is also very, very good, but the Evoque specifically is placed more as a consumer drone with all that extra bling. It's beautiful, but maybe a half a star lower than the MK5 in pure performance due to the unnecessary weight. That Evoque I was holding in the video came from the RaceDay Quads Black Friday sale last year... screamin' deal with an OG DJI cam/Vista that I couldn't pass on 🤘
@philipjamesricafort
@philipjamesricafort 8 месяцев назад
How about the range sir? Is mark5 better than evoque f5d with 2 antenna?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 7 месяцев назад
Yes, I think the Mark5 with the original DHI antenna will have better range than an Evoque which uses LHCP antennas, assuming you are using the Goggles Integra or the Goggles 2. The reason is that the iFlight BNF comes with LHCP antennas which will not perform ideally, the antennas designed specifically for the O3, which are dual polarized, will give better results...
@Benzin0
@Benzin0 5 месяцев назад
In the end what was your solution for mounting the O3 antenna?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 5 месяцев назад
Hey! I'm still using the stock antenna mount, I actually started to like it because it allows me to remove the antenna quickly and fold it down so I can throw the drone into a bag. Another solution would be to use a mount designed for an SMA antenna (plenty on thingiverse) , then use that adapter that came with the Caddix Vista to mount the antenna.... you can print one if you don't have one...diameter might be slightly different but a zip tie will fix that... www.thingiverse.com/thing:4859441
@Benzin0
@Benzin0 5 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv awesome, thanks!
@daesyk
@daesyk 11 месяцев назад
My friend, i got a questioj. I want the best drone i can buy for fpv freestyling and make beautiful shots. I want a jack of all trades. A beast that can do both. I never flew a drone before. But im ready to spend 1500 to 2000 to dive ride in to this hobby and make some money with it eventualy. Can you help me? I want the howl set. Controller goggles drone and batteries. What can you say is the best.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
Good question, thanks for asking! Well, even though you have a big budget, since you mentioned that you have never flown an FPV drone before, you may want to start off with something smaller, or at least start off in a simulator first. When someone learns to FPV, there is a natural process of crashing a lot since it is very difficult, and it's better that those crashes happen on a smaller, lightweight drone that will not break, or even on a computer screen. I recommend you buy a good radio first, like a Radiomaster Boxer, with ELRS. You can use that with a simulator on your computer for a while to learn to fly. Then, once you have decided that FPV is for you, you can buy some DJI Integra goggles [ amzn.to/3Lrdd2U ] and a small drone with the DJI O3 system like the Pavo Pico [bit.ly/pavo03]. The digital image is sooo much better than analog! Trust me, you will have no problem spending that 2k budget eventually, but it would be wiser to end up at something like this GEPRC MK5, not starting off with it. Good luck and let me know if you have any more questions!
@krisgleave
@krisgleave 10 месяцев назад
Which battery do you recommend for the 6S version please? 1300?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 10 месяцев назад
Yes, I would go with 6s 1300mah for best trade-off between performance vs. flight times. You could go slightly larger, as in 1500mah and get longer flight times, but the quad will be heavier and will not fly quite as well. The difference is not huge, but it is there. I use CNHL Black batteries and they are great, and you can usually find a coupon or promo that makes them pretty cheap. Sign up for their email list, they have sales all the time.
@krisgleave
@krisgleave 10 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv that’s awesome and will do thanks for the quick reply. I’ll sign up now.
@dafterlow_
@dafterlow_ 7 месяцев назад
Better geprc mk5d or speedybee master 5 v2 please answer
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 7 месяцев назад
If it were me I would go for the Mk5, it's a great frame and the soft mounted stack on the Speedy Bee makes it harder to tune. MK5 for the win!
@MRdeLaat
@MRdeLaat 4 месяца назад
wil an air unit fit inside the same tpu holder?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 4 месяца назад
It is made for a DJI O3 Air Unit. DO you mean the older, original Air Unit? If so then no, that one is much larger and so you will have to find another mounting solution, like another 3d print or double sided tape and zip ties...
@chrispannerz4084
@chrispannerz4084 9 месяцев назад
Have you come up with a solution for the antenna ?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 9 месяцев назад
Hi Chris, I've been using the stock one, and I pop the antenna out to put it in my bag, them pop it back in to fly. Hasn't been a problem with loads of flying time, but I would prefer something more secure, though in that case I wouldn't be able to remove it so easily. I checked thingiverse and the only ones I found are for sma connectors. Could use one of those with the DJI O3 antenna, with that little adapter that came with the Caddix vistas if you had one of those. I just asked in the GEP Facebook page and will report back here if anything comes up...
@reptinoxgaming5319
@reptinoxgaming5319 Год назад
I was thinking of going with the Volador and you claim that you chose this one because of the weight, but looking at both sites it shows that the Volador is 20 grams lighter. The geprc site claims this frame is 197 grams, is that correct or what is the weight you found on this frame, thanks :)
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Let me check on that and get back to you, but I thought the volador was heavier by about 10g (not a lot I know) but what really makes a difference is whether all the TPU parts are included, and that you're looking at the deadcat and not X frame in GepRC's website, the X frame is quite a bit lighter...
@reptinoxgaming5319
@reptinoxgaming5319 Год назад
@@colibrifpv I was accidentally looking at the volador x frame, but looking at it again the volador 5 inch deadcat seems to be 10 grams lighter. The 6 inch however is 200 grams compared to the 197 of the geprc, so I believe you may have been looking at that. Both pictures include all the tpu parts. Both seem to be heavy frames, but for cinematics shouldn't hurt it too bad. This is going to be my first quad so if you have any suggestions they would be appreciated. I'm going to be mainly do cinematics, but would also just like to fly for fun and maybe do a little bit of freestyle. I am going to get the o3 unit and that will be my source of video so I need to make sure the props are out of frame which is why I'm going towards a deadcat frame.
@reptinoxgaming5319
@reptinoxgaming5319 Год назад
Also I would like to hopefully have a pretty long range, so I was wondering if there was a specific receiver you would recommend. I was leaning towards crossfire.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
I figured out where the discrepancy is coming from... Flyfish literally JUST released a V2 of that frame, since I recorded this video a few days ago, and it's 20g lighter than the V1 Volador frame. Basically the V1 is 10g heavier but the V2 is 10g lighter than the GEPRC MK5D. However, based on the fact you mentioned you plan to do mostly cinematic flying, you might consider a different frame like the iFlight Chimera 5. They just released a V2 of that frame, which is made for the DJI Air unit, it is a deadcat, and its way cheaper and way lighter in weight at $43 and 135g. If you're not going to be flying hard you don't need an ultra durable frame and it may be a good fit! I have the chimera 5, chimera 6, and the chimera 7 Pro (7.5), all V1's designed for the original DJI Vista systems and they are super nice, durable frames. shop.iflight-rc.com/Chimera5-Pro-V2-Frame-Kit-Pro1978
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
As far as your radio link, you are definitely on the right track by considering crossfire over the DJI radio. Crossfire is a totally solid choice, as is ELRS. Yes, crossfire is expensive, but who cares about a few bucks when it comes to the safety/security of your $400-$500 DJI O3 quad?? Many years ago, I jumped from FRSKY to crossfire, and the upgrade was huge. I literally went from failsafing as a part of flying to never failsafing again, and since a failsafe can cause you to break or lose expensive gear, the cost was totally justified. However, nowadays we have ELRS, which is basically just as good as crossfire (opens source = advantages and disadvantages) at a modestly lower price point. If you like crossfire, consider going with the ELRS 868mhz system... the antennas are bigger but the range is insane. Here is a module for $40, so pretty reasonable [amzn.to/42lUVVV]. In my insane fleet of 30+ quads, about half are crossfire and about half are ELRS 2.4ghz, but I use the 2.4ghz for whoops up to 3", or anything analog. 90% of people will never need more than 2.4 ghz ELRS, especially on anything small or anything short of long range (which I define as at least 1km+ out) with the right settings, but since you mentioned cinematic flying, a long range system would probably suit you best. Do your research, but you will want crossfire or ELRS. Also plan to install GPS modules in your quads. They are not very expensive and will save your bacon when you outrun your video, which WILL happen. Good luck, let me know what you end up with!
@SRH1991
@SRH1991 16 дней назад
Did you have a link for the motors you used on your build?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 4 дня назад
Hey! I just saw this, sorry I never responded! Sure, here are the motors I used, they are the T-motor F60 Pro V's, in 1750 KV on 6s they have tons of thrust and are still very efficient... bit.ly/F60ProV
@SRH1991
@SRH1991 4 дня назад
Awesome!!! Really appreciate you taking the time. I understand comments can get lost at times with how much comment smtraffic comes through. Thanks again 😊
@zombizh4191
@zombizh4191 9 месяцев назад
Is there a diffence in flying deathcat or x version for freestyle
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 9 месяцев назад
Yes there is, a true X is going to be more responsive and better for freestyle, but to be honest the difference is subtle and only very experienced pilots and racers will notice, whereas having props in view is very noticeable, which is why I prefer the deadcat frame since I'm mostly interested in cinematic FPV.
@user-gn3dd6pd5l
@user-gn3dd6pd5l Год назад
I got mk5 pro frame and dji o3 system. Now i need upgrade it… is tail part on deadcat longer? I cant just buy an O3 upgrade for it?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Sure, you can do that! Here's the link 👉bit.ly/MK5DCF. If you have the original MK5 frame and you just want to use O3 with it, buy the "upgrade kit". If you have the X frame and you want to upgrade it to the Deadcat frame, buy the "conversion kit". Good luck, let me know how it works out for you!
@user-gn3dd6pd5l
@user-gn3dd6pd5l Год назад
@@colibrifpv i se that is other shape, and tail is much longer than original mk5;(
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@user-gn3dd6pd5l Yes, the deadcat design is intended to move the arms further back, in order to keep them out of view of the camera, but this requires making the entire body section longer. If you are mainly interested in the best flying characteristics, you should keep the X frame, and if you are mainly interested in filmin HD footage, you should consider the deadcat frame.
@user-gn3dd6pd5l
@user-gn3dd6pd5l Год назад
@@colibrifpv at first I’m interested to mount O3 system on regular mk5 pro frame 🥲
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@user-gn3dd6pd5l Great idea, there is nothing wrong with that frame, it's more optimized for freestyle flying and its lighter weight. Just get the upgrade kit from GEPRC and it has all the parts you will need!
@derek.bodner
@derek.bodner Год назад
Wondering what size batteries you have used on this, and what kind of flight times you have gotten ?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
I've used everything between 1100-1800 6s , ideal is 1300 for best performance, 1500 for longer flight times. That 1500 6s gives me 4-7 minutes, depending on if Im carrying an external GoPro
@derek.bodner
@derek.bodner Год назад
@@colibrifpv cheers. ty. I don't have any great mountains around or anything like that to do true longrange mountain surfing with, so I've been looking for a midrange cruiser, that could also fly nimble enough to double as a backup freestyle quad for when my main 5" rig is down for repair. So I've been thinking of going for a 5" or 6" deadcat, using just the o3 for recording, then putting the weight savings of not having a gopro into a bigger (~2000mah lipo), and seeing if I can get 7-10 minutes of cruising. This frame seemed liked it has a pretty long top plate, so might give it a shot. Appreciate the info.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@derek.bodner That is what I love about deadcat frames, you end up with loads of space for batteries, way more than the X version. For what you're looking for, you may want to go 6", like an evoque or Diatone F6. I built up a Diatone Fs and it's a fun cruiser, it can still freestyle but it's more efficient than a 5" with those bigger props. For what it's worth, I found that my Mark5 did better with 1500 than 1800 batteries, the law of diminishing returns with weight vs. flight times kicks in around that point, then again, I was also running a GoPro Mini which is ~150g, so maybe you would be oky up to 2000mah 6s, but definitely not over that...
@derek.bodner
@derek.bodner Год назад
@@colibrifpv ty sir. appreciate your time.
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@derek.bodner No problem, good luck with it!
@jasonchavis6414
@jasonchavis6414 3 дня назад
I just bought one but the top plate does not have a spot for the xt 60
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv День назад
Really? Maybe you ordered the true X model? I think only the deadcat version has that feature because the layout of the arms creates more space in the body/topplate.... but you can still route your battery lead out the rear, right?
@evil.hamster-fpv
@evil.hamster-fpv 5 месяцев назад
Please help 🙏 me. I need to know what the distance between bolts of antenna+gps mount is? Thanks
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 5 месяцев назад
Hey, the distance between those standoffs is 25mm. Did you fina a better antenna/gps mount print? I was never 100% happy with the antenna mount because the antenna is a bit loose, but I've kept it because I actually got used to popping it in and out as it goes in and out of my bag!
@evil.hamster-fpv
@evil.hamster-fpv 5 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv I lookin for something with sma... as iflight making
@vivek1991
@vivek1991 4 месяца назад
What gps fits in that gpu bracket?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 4 месяца назад
I'm using the GEPRC M10 GPS (22mmx22mm) and it fits perfectly. There is also a nano version (15mmx15mm) which you could make work but would be very small for this mount.
@tycoontrading9352
@tycoontrading9352 Год назад
What googles will give you the best experience with this drone?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
The goggles you choose will depend on your VTX (video transmission system), so assuming that you are using the DJI O3 AIr Unit, you should buy the iDJI Integra goggles. I have a video on the Integr goggles here if you want to learn more : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VKX-1AKa9sw.html
@tycoontrading9352
@tycoontrading9352 Год назад
@@colibrifpv Great video. I was looking for that. So Googles 2 are new version of V2 right? (confusing).
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@tycoontrading9352 Tell me about it, it's super confusing. It goes DJI Goggles -> Goggle V2 -> Goggles 2 -> Goggles Integra.
@tycoontrading9352
@tycoontrading9352 Год назад
Can you fly this with TX16s?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Yes you can. You just need to match up your tx (transmitter) module with the rx (receiver). I recommending using ELRS or crossfire. Buy ELRS version of the drone, then make sure your TX16 has an ELRS module. There are different versions so I can't say for sure. Here's the link to the GEPRC Mark5. Just choose the ELRS version 👉 bit.ly/MK5DC *The links I provide are affiliate links - it doesn't cost you anything but I get a small commission so if you're going to buy something anyway I would appreciate it you used them👍 Does your TX16 already have ELRS? If not, you will need a module, but they are cheap.
@guyrandom6151
@guyrandom6151 8 месяцев назад
why is T cross unit mounted up front is better for long range ?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 8 месяцев назад
For long range flying, it's generally better to mount your antenna up front, although in the back it may be better protected, and with crossfire the range is so good that it will be the video link that limits you. For this build I used the included TPU mount, which mounts it in the back, which is a great solution for this medium-range build.
@guyrandom6151
@guyrandom6151 8 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv im looking into getting into fpv . gonna get a controller first and run a sim all winter long then get goggles and drones . Im leaning to tbs over elrs is it in your opinion better to get the tango 2 pro v3 controller or the radiomaster boxer with a tbs module
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 8 месяцев назад
Those are both good radios, I would recommend the Boxer with ELRS, and just use the ELRS protocol. Crossfire used to be the clear winner, but now ELRS is taking over and crossfire doesn't get many updates, so if you are just getting into it I recommend ELRS...@@guyrandom6151
@moto-maniac-NL
@moto-maniac-NL 2 месяца назад
That mount for the copasitor is the buzzer mount😂
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 2 месяца назад
Really? Are you sure 🤔I think I've seen the product photos of the BNF MarkV with the buzzer mounted with that 3d print... then again I did build this myself so anything is possible 😂
@tycoontrading9352
@tycoontrading9352 Год назад
How far you can go with this drone in normal conditions with this exact setup?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Technically you can go out 10km with the DJI O3 system, but realistically it gets pretty sketchy after a few kilometers out. The TBS Crossfire radio system that I am using is capable of going even further than that, and of course I am using a GPS module for GPS Rescue just in case I lose my connection with the drone, but realistically, battery is usually a limitation and I prefer not to risk my expensive gear (especially when carrying an external GoPro 11), so the farthest I ever go is 1-2km, which is plenty to get the shots I want 👍
@tycoontrading9352
@tycoontrading9352 Год назад
@@colibrifpv Got it. So this drone have PGS rescue or you added this later? If you added later how you did it?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@tycoontrading9352 It does not come with a GPS module. You can get one from the GEPRC website. Also buy the TPU GPS mount which is $3. Then you need to wire it to your flight controller and set it up in Betaflight. It is not hard to do and there are many RU-vid videos showing you how. Here is best GPS Unit for this quad and it's less than $20: bit.ly/GEPM10
@tycoontrading9352
@tycoontrading9352 Год назад
@@colibrifpv I clicked your link and they have 4 different models. Which model is good for MK5D 03?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@tycoontrading9352 That depends on your battery preference and radio system. I prefer TBS (crossfire) and 6s batteries. You can select either 4s or 6s (depending on your batteries) and then select your radio system, either ELRS, TBS (crossfire), or PNP... "PNP" comes with no external receiver, it assumes that you will be using the DJI remote. Did you decide on ELRS or crossfire for your system? If you are after maximum range, I recommend TBS crossfire!
@AZ-FPV
@AZ-FPV 11 месяцев назад
@ 6:20 .. what about PWM of 96 KHz?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 11 месяцев назад
I haven't tried 96khz yet because I liked how the quad flies at 48khz, but the ESC in this Mamba stack will do up to 128 khz so I don't see why not, although I think of 48khz as a good balance between smoothness and responsiveness. When I get a chance to try it I will respond here to let you know how it goes!
@AZ-FPV
@AZ-FPV 11 месяцев назад
@@colibrifpv - thank you for the reply. I have a Flywoo Explorer 4 LR and switched from 48 kHz after talking to their customer support but there are some people here on youtube that went to 96 kHz and said it's smoother. I am pretty new to all this and did not see a difference so i left it at the recommended value. BUT .. I have a GepRC Mark 5 with an M10 GPS pre-installed coming, after watching several reviews on YoutTube.
@antoineozaneaux6881
@antoineozaneaux6881 Год назад
how difficult would it be to add a gps to one that came without ?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Not too difficult at all. Get the $3 GPS holder from GepRC (or 3d print one). You will need to look at the wiring diagram that came with your Flight Controller (or the product page of you bought one pre-built). Solder to an available UART, tx to rx, and rx to tx. Then activate it in Betaflight, and setup GPS rescue according to your preference. It's a lot the first time you do it, but it's actually not bad, and there are many tutorials available on RU-vid.
@antoineozaneaux6881
@antoineozaneaux6881 Год назад
@@colibrifpv I cant find anything on thingyverse for GPS mounts . might you have a link for the file . in case it takes long to get the part from GEP RC .thank you what a sick build .
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@antoineozaneaux6881 Unfortunately I don't, I bought mine with the frame kit, but the stock one isn't that great anyway, the antennas comes loose and I was already thinking of printing up another if we can find a good one. I did see one on thigiverse but it was for the 220. Best place to ask is the GEP RC Group on Facebook, it's very active with loads of helpful people: facebook.com/groups/566794893526546
@antoineozaneaux6881
@antoineozaneaux6881 Год назад
@@colibrifpv thank you .today for work will be driving, through the collegiate peaks in COLORADO. fpv dreaming . yesterday i went and did a range / rc confidence test . 1.6 k on 500 mw vtx and 100 mw crossfire . i fly perpetually scared . getting used to trusting the home arrow . . if i purchase a new bnf to go with my new dji V2 goggles is it imperative to get 03 air unit vs caddx for may be 3 k range in my dreams . ?? i am still on 4s analog , but looking for a digital 5 inch with gps .is it worth flying an 03 unit with 4s , or should i comit to 6s ?? thank you .
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@antoineozaneaux6881 You're in Colorado? Awesome, so jealous of these peaks and the weather. I'm in the Andes of Ecuador, beautiful mountains but cold and foggy! Re: O3, personally, if buying a BNF in 2023, I would spend the extra $$ to buy into the new system, it gets you very good onboard footage and better range/image quality, though you will mostly appreciate that range/quality with the new gen goggles (G2 or Integras). DEFINITELY get GPS for GPS rescue, it has saved me many times! Re batteries, either 4s or 6s is fine. 6s has a slight performance advantage, 4s is easier to deal with and slightly cheaper. If you already own loads of 4s, stick with that. If you only have a few 4s, or if they are old and need to be upgraded, you may want to jump to 6s. I recommend CNHL, they are cheap and very good. Tip: if you end up with 6s batteries, you can set a motor output limit in Betaflight in order to run a 4s quad on 6s. Technically you can run a 6s quad on 4s (people do that when learning) but it will be underpowered.
@tycoontrading9352
@tycoontrading9352 Год назад
4s or 6s is better?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
Short version = it doesn't really matter that much, either one will work. Long version: most experienced pilots prefer 6s but most people start with 4s. 6s has a small performance/flight time advantage but 4s is slightly easier to deal with (charge/discharge/balance 4 cells instead of 6) and 4s is slightly cheaper. You might get 4 equivalent 4s batteries or 3 6s batteries for the same price. If you are serious about the FPV hobby, and If you don't already have batteries, just start off by buying 6s. but either one will work!
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
if you have never flown FPV, you might want to start off with something small like a Tiny Whoop... they are cheap, you won't hurt anybody when you crash, and flying FPV is very difficult at first! I just reviewed the BetaFPV Meteor 75pro, which is great for beginners, includes two batteries and a simple charger, and the ELRS version is like $110 -> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P6UDOajLE8E.html. Good luck, and feel free to ask any questions you have!
@tycoontrading9352
@tycoontrading9352 Год назад
@@colibrifpv You are correct. I never flown FPV only in simulator approx. 12h so far in acro mode with my TX16S MKII MAX EdgeTX RC Transmitter w/ AG01 Hall Gimbals (ELRS). You told me "feel free to ask any questions" here you go: You know my radio. HOTA D6 Pro AC 200W DC 650W 15A is my charger. I'm missing only drone and googles right? I really like this drone GEPRC MK5D O3 (6s). What googles will give me the best picture quality? Goggles 2? Please correct me if I'm wrong. After all that shopping is done do I have to configure something? If yes do you have a guide from start to finish what to do?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@tycoontrading9352 That charger will handle 6s batteries no problem. I recommend CNHL for batteries. They have good sales (coupon codes) and are not too expensive and the quality is good. GEPRC also has batteries which are better quality, but more expensive. If you want the best image quality and range, go DJI. I recommend buying the Goggles 2 or the Goggles integra. The Integra are a little cheaper at $500 and the Goggles 2 are a little more and have a few more features, which you may never use. I recommend the Integras's, but unfortunately that are out of stock on Amazon so you might have to get them directly from DJI amzn.to/433VJiI
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
@@tycoontrading9352 And yes, I will have to configure a few things. It can be confusing at first, bit it gets much, much easier after you have done it a few times and there are lots of RU-vid videos to guide you. But you must have patience. When you receive your gear, you will not just go out and fly like with a DJI drone. Basically you need to bind your radio to the receiver (already installed on the drone from the factory). First, get the rx and tx on the same firmware. Bardwell has a great video on this, but basically you will put the receiver in wifi mode (happens automatically after 30 seconds), then connect with your computer to the "ELRS" wifi, i.e., the rx. then dag and drop a firmware file you have created with the ELRS configurator. Then bind. It's a lot your first time, but it gets easier! Here's that video from Bardwell: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MFFUsN9ZHSU.html
@breckfreeride
@breckfreeride 9 месяцев назад
600 bucks?!?
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv 9 месяцев назад
If that includes the DJI O3 system, yeah that's about what they cost. There are cheaper options available, and you can build it yourself, that's what I did!
@pottyputter05
@pottyputter05 Год назад
20mm is annoying and fragile, agree on 30mm
@colibrifpv
@colibrifpv Год назад
100%, when it comes to a heavy 5" freestyle quad... the trade-offs of a 20x20 stack just don't make sense...
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