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Geraint Thomas and Tao Geoghegan Hart reveal the NEW Pinarello Dogma F | INEOS Grenadiers BTS 

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The brand new Pinarello Dogma F is finally here😍. Geraint Thomas and Tao Geoghegan Hart give us their verdict on this beautiful bike.

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@A-Kuo
@A-Kuo 3 года назад
May the rim brake be with you!!
@fredramorim
@fredramorim 3 года назад
Rim brakes gives the team the priviledge of simplicity.
@Montrealcycling
@Montrealcycling 3 года назад
RIM BRAKE FOR THE WIN!!!👌🏻💪🏻🚴🏻‍♂️
@najibnajmudin512
@najibnajmudin512 3 года назад
Tradition be preserved, rim brake for life!
@robertl376
@robertl376 3 года назад
I am very happy getting one soon. It will be on Rim Brakes. Thank you.
@m4rc10
@m4rc10 3 года назад
Rim brakes!! Yeah!! Rim brakes for ever!! 💪🚲👍
@joeenglert
@joeenglert 3 года назад
that gives the team advantage over the clunkyass disk brake teams
@insung9
@insung9 3 года назад
Long live the rim brake
@guytucker7767
@guytucker7767 3 года назад
🙏🙏
@yannickokpara4861
@yannickokpara4861 3 года назад
Makes no sense that they'd ride rim brakes when disc version is 6.8kg without fancy wheels
@maxafc4695
@maxafc4695 3 года назад
@@yannickokpara4861 because you can run deeper section wheels that are more aero and still make 6.8kg on larger frame sizes
@yannickokpara4861
@yannickokpara4861 3 года назад
​@Pablo Morales Rim brakes are not more aero. The disc brake sits in disturbed air behind the tyre, the front wheel and the spokes. The front rim brake disturbs the aerodynamics of the design of the whole bike. It makes modelling the bike to be aerodynamic less accurate and predictable and thus leads to a less aerodynamic bike. It simply disturbs the entire aerodynamics of the bike and makes it more costly to produce aerodynamic gains, because you have to go to the windtunnel more often to make sure the airflow behaves as expected. At racing speeds the yaw angles are relatively low so the spherical shape of the disc isn't as much of a problem as it might otherwise be. It is partially shielded by other things such as its own brake, forks, aforementioned tyre, wheel and spokes. This means the amount of extra drag it can create is limited. Furthermore that drag can be limited ex. by disc brake covers and/or fork flaps to manage the air around the disc. Wheel changes then. I think we've seen several times now that disc brake wheel changes do not have to be finicky. It is a matter of preparedness, intelligent design of the thru axle and possibly using an electrical device to unscrew the bolt. Your claim that lighter and more aero wheels is both partially untrue and unsubstantiated. Firstly nothing constitutes that a rim brake wheel in itself - that is when you discount the disc rotor, which you have to in this argument, because you are obviously discounting the impact of the rim brake on the frame aerodynamics - is more aerodynamic. If anything it should be less aerodynamic compared to a wheel rim designed for use with disc brakes, because there is no same restriction on the surface material, roughness or integrity. You can engineer a surface that is more aerodynamic, because it does not have to be a certain material with properties to combat braking forces and temperature. This also means you can in theory use less material in that specific area, because there is no increased load from braking forces. To go a bit backwards through your claims I can also inform you of something which you, with your fairly backwards train of thought, should know. This is that rim brakes do rub. Comfortable bikes flex more. Lighter bikes flex more, because there is less material to preserve the integrity of the components. Riding out of the saddle your rim brake can rub - most commonly on the rear wheel. That is quite costly as the rear wheel is the place at which propulsion is generated via the crank-chainring-cassette system. I'm sorry that you are too backwards to see that the industry is delivering products made for winning and meant for riding and not ment for some 19xx hardman exhibition with 2kg of tubular spares across your chest like a woman's shoulderbag, because you don't have tubeless. Discs are winning and discs are not struggling up hills as evidenced by the near entire peloton. Discs barely have to be changed, because riders barely puncture on wider, stronger(technological advancements, my man) tyres at lower pressures of also the tubeless or clincher variations, Adios, neanderthal.
@mennonl5733
@mennonl5733 3 года назад
@@yannickokpara4861 mate, no one is reading such paragrafs
@johnevans6399
@johnevans6399 3 года назад
Watch out Froomey will pinch one for its rim brakes! 🚲🏃‍♂️
@marcof2810
@marcof2810 3 года назад
Wow it’s such a nice looking bike!!
@wanderalmeida9584
@wanderalmeida9584 3 года назад
What a machine! Pinarello 😍😍
@danpinho
@danpinho 3 года назад
Rim brakes 😍
@eliteharrington7377
@eliteharrington7377 3 года назад
Pinarello bikes have grown on me over the years. Sorry that I can't afford one though 😥🥴
@danevansdesigner
@danevansdesigner 3 года назад
Get a vintage one the you can say you have one. I've got two.
@colostomybag9367
@colostomybag9367 3 года назад
Rim brake cartel is alive and well 👍🏻
@PhiyackYuh
@PhiyackYuh 3 года назад
At the expense of what? An arm and leg? 😂😂😂
@iansutton8802
@iansutton8802 3 года назад
Didn’t know there was a Halfords in Tenerife. Don’t forget to claim your free service in 6 weeks time.
@durianriders
@durianriders 3 года назад
Imagine Roglic being on the last climb of the day on his Cervelo CX bike with 25mm tubs and The Rim Brake Cartel swap to the front and shred away up the road on their 1100g Meilenstein's
@RoaldvandenBerghen
@RoaldvandenBerghen 3 года назад
Than Roglic answers and wins, because he has blue tires now ;-)
@vascoamaralgrilo
@vascoamaralgrilo 3 года назад
Ahaha, rim for the win! Just one note, I think Ineos switched from Meilenstein to Princeton Carbonworks: www.cyclingnews.com/news/ineos-grenadiers-switch-to-sponsor-incorrect-princeton-carbonworks-wheels-at-tour-de-france/
@JSC131
@JSC131 3 года назад
Up the welshman on the rim brake dropping them all hopefully!!!.
@doughxdough-exquisitehand-4781
@doughxdough-exquisitehand-4781 3 года назад
Of course it feels familiar, it never change !
@sarathguttikonda4065
@sarathguttikonda4065 3 года назад
Come on Ineos 🔥🤝 Good luck for TDF
@JulianAllen13
@JulianAllen13 3 года назад
Let’s hope G can stay upright on it.
@alaingattelet7833
@alaingattelet7833 3 года назад
They also should design a specific helmet for Tao head 🙂
@jasoncdebussy
@jasoncdebussy 3 года назад
Noooo! I can recognise him instantly in the peloton 🤣
@alaingattelet7833
@alaingattelet7833 3 года назад
@@jasoncdebussy well Seen 😄
@antoniop3352
@antoniop3352 3 года назад
A wheel is only a disc, so rim brakes are the biggest disc brakes your bike can fit.
@SA-em1lv
@SA-em1lv 3 года назад
Amazing..
@iminc5498
@iminc5498 3 года назад
Rim brake always 😍
@durianriders
@durianriders 3 года назад
Have a guess which team this year has the least frustrated and stressed mechanics. 😆. I had one of the first disc road bikes in Oz. I soon regretted it as the heavier Zipp 202's and rubbing rotors just kill off how a lighter road bike should ride.
@jdokk9
@jdokk9 3 года назад
Shit argument, cant compare one of the first disc road bikes in Oz with disc road bikes now. Its like saying Di2 is shit because your dura ace 7900 Di2 was bad. Not that I disagree with you on which is better
@otaviopaiva2274
@otaviopaiva2274 3 года назад
Pretty Happy with my F8!!!!!
@otaviopaiva2274
@otaviopaiva2274 3 года назад
@John Wayne For sure!!! In the end, all about our legs!! Nice rides bro!!
@fernandocalva6527
@fernandocalva6527 3 года назад
1st!! Como Ineos en el 2021!! 🔥
@INEOSGrenadiers
@INEOSGrenadiers 3 года назад
First again Fernando! 😅👏
@fernandocalva6527
@fernandocalva6527 3 года назад
@@INEOSGrenadiers , and I will continue like this throughout the TDF! 🔥
@INEOSGrenadiers
@INEOSGrenadiers 3 года назад
@@fernandocalva6527 Ha love it - thanks for your support! 🔥
@davesamsung4545
@davesamsung4545 3 года назад
Did we all notice the mechanic working on a disc brake version?
@francescozanella5522
@francescozanella5522 3 года назад
Bellissima 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
@klx250s8
@klx250s8 3 года назад
rim brake 👍
@JSC131
@JSC131 3 года назад
Now that's what I call a racing bike a rim brake missile!!!!.
@valtembergpinheiro6273
@valtembergpinheiro6273 3 года назад
🔥🔥🔥🔥
@bikerjk1205
@bikerjk1205 3 года назад
FYI, Bernal's 53cm rim brake Pinarello F12 and Yates' 53cm disc-brake Bianchi both weigh 7.1kg with the same groupset and wheelset.
@edmundmagner8493
@edmundmagner8493 3 года назад
Pretty sure Yates rides a smaller frame than that! I read it was a 48 or 49cm. The bianchis are lovely but rim is still the lighter option vs disc on a comparable frame
@TheMASDrummer
@TheMASDrummer 3 года назад
Ineos wins the team classification
@kwacker45
@kwacker45 3 года назад
So I'm guessing no disc brakes for ineos this year
@drewbuffington
@drewbuffington 3 года назад
@durianrider rim brakes!
@stevedivine7290
@stevedivine7290 3 года назад
You guys should use the big island of Hawaii I think that is a better place to train than tenerife.
@revenone1077
@revenone1077 3 года назад
A long way from base for the team!
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 3 года назад
9000 miles away and 10(?) time zones.
@robertnaaz1697
@robertnaaz1697 3 года назад
How can I get one? I can wash dishes and bikes quite well.my cube attain is very heavy.
@MilanSmore
@MilanSmore 3 года назад
Cube attain is more than good enough lol unless you are a doing serious races
@ginabaconi2468
@ginabaconi2468 3 года назад
New Pinarello looks lovely. What happens to all the old F12's? Happy to take one off your hands if you have a 54cm one going...
@lukeorrin9809
@lukeorrin9809 3 года назад
Which hotel is it the grenadiers stay at in Tenerife??
@norbertosanz3895
@norbertosanz3895 3 года назад
El equipo se alojó en El Parador Nacional del Teide. Allí suelen alojarse los equipos profesionales de ciclismo.
@PhilipNee
@PhilipNee 3 года назад
have to say it looks (almost) the same as my F10....
@RiceKingDeep
@RiceKingDeep 3 года назад
...very familiar, another marketing metrics. Yeah! Back to The Future.
@CFCMahomet
@CFCMahomet 3 года назад
Still on rim brakes!
@PuNkOiScA
@PuNkOiScA 3 года назад
price
@bjornbaron5940
@bjornbaron5940 3 года назад
Rim brake version not available until 2022 for us mere mortals.
@iMadrid11
@iMadrid11 3 года назад
I’m guessing the supply chain partner. Shimano can’t produce rim brakes at scale big enough to meet Pinarello’s order. Caused by the pandemic bike boom.
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 3 года назад
Gives you chance to save up
@bjornbaron5940
@bjornbaron5940 3 года назад
@@markrushton1516 I’m not worthy of such a bike! I spend my money on nordic ski racing.
@JulianAllen13
@JulianAllen13 3 года назад
Good luck getting hold of any version this year.
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 3 года назад
@@bjornbaron5940 Only about 10,000 calories burnt there
@ozgurinsan
@ozgurinsan 3 года назад
And rim brakes :)))))
@QuanNguyen-ck9zw
@QuanNguyen-ck9zw 3 года назад
Didn't Pinarello give G a script?
@videosuchen
@videosuchen 3 года назад
Why rim brakes?
@11-inch
@11-inch 3 года назад
lol this guy doesnt get it
@SamCarstairs
@SamCarstairs 3 года назад
Who do I send my shipping address too?
@ehyouman
@ehyouman 3 года назад
RIM BRAKES GANGGGGGGGSHITT BOYS
@andressuarezp
@andressuarezp 3 года назад
#longliverimbrakes
@Wildschwein_Jaeger
@Wildschwein_Jaeger 3 года назад
Rims4theWin
@Buckwheatrider
@Buckwheatrider 3 года назад
#safetherimbrake
@danielritchie3656
@danielritchie3656 3 года назад
Disc breaks for the Tour ? (2:42)
@NathanCruzel
@NathanCruzel 3 года назад
they could use both like uae did in 2020
@iminc5498
@iminc5498 3 года назад
No. Just promotion for the sponsor. Sir Dave Brailsford won’t let the boys carry around 500g of dead weight around France for 3 weeks
@MarkRiddellRacing
@MarkRiddellRacing 3 года назад
@@iminc5498 maybe they need to eat their Wheatabix... might be strong enough to carry 500g then.
@iminc5498
@iminc5498 3 года назад
@@MarkRiddellRacing Makes a big difference at that level. You have guys starving themselves to lose an extra 1kg for a race & then the sponsors slap disc rotors on the bike 😂
@MarkRiddellRacing
@MarkRiddellRacing 3 года назад
@@iminc5498 correct, at that level. But the arguments over disc vs rim for us average roadies is a waste of Internet bandwidth. None of us are competing for the Yellow Jersey, so the weight doesn't mean a thing.
@davidh2881
@davidh2881 3 года назад
i was really hoping they stayed on rim brake. my riding mates all have disc and its really annoying ... no offence but all offence. Rim is better for what i do
@miggyalcazar9082
@miggyalcazar9082 3 года назад
can i have one?
@ComeListenyo
@ComeListenyo 3 года назад
Now tell us how you REALLY feel.
@Maiktallica666
@Maiktallica666 3 года назад
Well, you don't need the F12 anymore. Do you give me one?
@vincentkrause7097
@vincentkrause7097 3 года назад
Wait a minute: Did I just see a Team Ineos Pinarello with disc brakes??
@pete_biggs
@pete_biggs 2 года назад
Ride F to pay respects
@justaletdown
@justaletdown 3 года назад
Please dont force your riders to ride the disc's for the sales. Rimbrakes for the WIN!
@ITsupportian
@ITsupportian 3 года назад
go go Rim Brake
@U20101954
@U20101954 3 года назад
geraint thomas looks like a young matt stephens
@Jonislol
@Jonislol 3 года назад
Rim brakes, lel
@joeenglert
@joeenglert 3 года назад
lighter dont mean much for pros cuz they have a weight limit anyways...but for us,it means alot
@octaviakf
@octaviakf 2 года назад
Down hill is never my problem
@Mikekhoh
@Mikekhoh 3 года назад
Should train Uphill not downhill 🤣
@EABdesigns01
@EABdesigns01 3 года назад
F
@fkoerner75
@fkoerner75 3 года назад
Now every World Tour Team is on Disc
@iminc5498
@iminc5498 3 года назад
Apart from the richest team in the peloton....Ineos
@lucarusso7915
@lucarusso7915 3 года назад
What else should they say 🤦🏻‍♂️
@vincentkrause7097
@vincentkrause7097 3 года назад
Dont like it because of the old rim brakes
@Phaidrus
@Phaidrus 3 года назад
Is this the rim brake cult video? Ahahah, so pathetic.
@razaninaufal
@razaninaufal 3 года назад
Oh no... Disc brake??? please dont...
@ryansalcedo9402
@ryansalcedo9402 3 года назад
overpriced for sure
@MtbEMS
@MtbEMS 3 года назад
How much? 🤔
@angelovq
@angelovq 3 года назад
So on this bike you will lose to both Roglic and Pogacar
@malcolmhedges7346
@malcolmhedges7346 3 года назад
well done, great input
@11-inch
@11-inch 3 года назад
I will come back to you once Pogi Pog won the TDF on a Rim Brake VR3s
@SteveNinetyski
@SteveNinetyski 3 года назад
One of the most boring reviews ever. " It is nice, it is light and stiff and a bit more aero" Woweee
@durianriders
@durianriders 3 года назад
The limit was reached in 2010. That's why discs and aero faff came out by specialized etc. 100% of WT riders prefer a 6.8kg rim brake bike
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 3 года назад
Like every bike review these days. it's lighter,faster,aero,stiffer,better,more expensive. have we said it's better. GCN and their paid content. they arent going to say find a 2010 bike because it wont get any better.
@oneeleven9832
@oneeleven9832 3 года назад
Luv ya Tao but leave politics out of sport & the only time a man should kneel for anything is when he is knighted 👍
@salmiakki5638
@salmiakki5638 3 года назад
F
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