German Tank Wedge  

I really don’t want to be the guy in the Pz II during Kursk

Panzerkeil- Tank wedge/Flying wedge of ancient cavalry

Think I could convince my team on War Thunder to try it?

The PanzerKyle was powered by Mountain Dew and was used to punch through defensive drywall.

Average German main driving forward completely unangled

Its nice they named a Star System after a German General-Oberst.

Attack the D Point!

"Panzer II Medium tank"💀

Finally something about herman hoth. Hes so overlooked

It's called advancing in echelon and basically everyone did it. The 'wedge' is so the tanks can fire ahead and also to either the left or right of them

Swedes meanwhile: Tank wedge? I will take that seriously. Hold my beer.

I found it amusing how the auto captions translated it as "Panzer Kyle". Like, the most average sounding name given to a deadly armor formation. What next, the "Panzer Steve"? 😆

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The noise levels at the battle of Kursk must have been horrendously high. If you managed to survive, you must at least have been partially deaf.

We used the same formation during the 73 Easting battle in the Iraq war. It reminds me of the old flying wedge play in American football.

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Can draw parallels with Alexander the great's cavalry formation. He would form a similar wedge with himself at the tip when charging....

my regiment used this tactic in Foxhole to push through a region full of enemy tanks, artillery, and bases, and we swept through that region super easily. would recommend.

That’s real funny looking Panzer IV.

Operation citadel. The OKH were really high when they said let us attack this big salient jutting into our lines.

Panther Kone.

Ah yes the “panzer Kyle”

Lol that tiger 1 looked like the one from saving private ryan

We dropping a fab 5000 on this one 🗣️

Also in support, 400yds behind, was the FLAK 88mm's.

Just like the simulations😂 This is actually how I deploy my armoured forces in RTSs like Sudden Strike 4. It seemed the most effective, so I'm glad to it has historical precedence.

Time to try this out on war thunder

making the enemy readjust their sights and angle of attack every single time is the best fucking point ive ever heard in a tank offensive formation the one in the middle, being the closest and the other four following up at a degree, very interesting

😮😮😮 we have different passion..i didn't expect to see somth like this on a Channel....keep up to good work..i just subscribe

Keil infantry too❤

Walter Model's photographer had surely failed him

Thank you, i'm gonna try this in ww2 game.

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Given the questionable mechanical reliability of the Tigers and Panthers, I would not be surprised if the Panzer IVs ended up overtaking the Tigers and Panthers to the front of the _Panzerkeil._

keil is german for wedge (english) or cheveron (french). its basically a two sided formation, where the middle takes the lead (v shaped). its a modernisation of the phalanx (anchient greek) wich had a one sided line, wich was diagonal, to support the shield and spear right-hand fighting style of the spartans. on a top down view, it was a from left to right degrading line, to support shield and spear. the romans took this idea and supported it with their tower shields into a more straight line. later on came the V shaped fromation, inspired by the flightpattern of migrating birds. the phalanx is nowadays the most used style of modern infrantery formation, while the wedge is nowadays called a delta. because its an upside down V

So, this is the Keil they were yelling at everyone to seek.

Although they didn’t have the chance to do this towards the end because of supply issues

Yeah my tip has pretty heavy armor too

I've heard of this tank formation. But that's it. Glad I know now.

Loon out! It's Panzer Kyle!

Too bad we didn’t have drones with shaped charges back then.

Fascinating

Just to confirm did he said the Panzer 2 are medium tanks? I don't know much about tank so can someone explain if that is correct cause I though a Panzer 2 is a light tank.

Similar to the English boarsnout to break through a shieldwall.

One key reason why the German armour spearhead wasn't as effective as that the soviets stopped putting their artillery in a single line across the Frontline. Instead, they were grouped together in squadrons of 10-20 anti-tank guns, forming a wedge. This allowed the soviets to attack the side flanks of the German tanks. In addition, they also procured higher calibre gun pieces and shells, which made every advance and partial breakthrough very costly.

that was look cool but will be the last in my choice i will like to conventionally separate the unit between pincer support n flank seem nice to have heavy armor in front n big gun on back with maneuverable medium on side

Im pretty sure they didnt use Panzer 2's at Kursk. But otherwise very historical

Yas Panzer Jagd-Panzer!

Tried this one is men of war, a single AT gun sniped the main tank then as the formation came into sight only two had enough range to fight back whilst the others just sat there exactly 2m short of 150m

It works in steel division for sure

Nice to see ww2 tactics here

Thought put light tanks up front to clear the mines

I didnt choose the stug life stug life chose me

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so true, more vids on battle of kurk please suck a large tank battle

Imagine the soviets spammed armor at the germans so hard, that even The Deathheads could barely advance 10 km

Just like last year they were stopped by a billion land mines

I wonder if militaries still practice these maneuvers today

Your telling me the tigers didn't angle? 😢

Ahh the first, second reicch, then this. Altho the spearhead would be sacrificed for this to break formations.

Putting the Panthers behind the Tigers was a mistake if the point was to put your most heavily armored tanks forward. The Panther had far more frontal armor than a Tiger 1 by any metric. The base thickness of the frontal plate may have only been 80mm to the Tiger 1's 102mm but the Panther's 80mm plate was sloped to an effectiveness of 140mm while the Tiger 1's 102mm was completely flat offering no additional defense. Edit: However perhaps it was because the Panther severely lacked in side armor? The Tiger 1 still had 80mm of flat side armor on the sides enough to resist a fair amount of weaker anti-tank guns especially at an angle. Meanwhile Panthers had side armor so thin that without their skirts they could be threatened by things as meager as 12.7mm and 14.5mm rounds.

The Panzer II wasn't a medium tank

You really can't include a video link?

Thanks share this tactical. How it feels soviet spam anti-tank to you non stop

I use this on rts

what about the PanzerJosh or the PanzerCarl formation?

A lot of people here are PanzerGeil

Most tank formations are based on Roman infantry formations.

Hmm sounds like the making of a Sabaton song 😅

Narcissists trying to imitate Alexander the Greats diamond wedge formation for cavalry.

Cavallery Charge stays the Same No Matter If in horses or on Tanks 😅

The tip

And what is what you should tell people when they say "why didnt the germans build 10.000 stugs instead of tigers". All the heavy tanks were considered to act as Durchbruchswagen - brakethrough vehicles to spearheading for the rest.

Soviets eventually overcame this with their own PanzerChad formations.

That's no wedge, it's a Delta Heavy Left.

Percy Hobart

But people forget that the allies adjusted to this and won the war.

What happens if the front heavy tanks were knocked out? Wouldn't it slow down the formation and make the other tanks vulnerable to attacks.

That's a good theory but in World of Tanks no one follows it haha... damn team!

The tanks in the rear, how would they fire without hitting the other tanks in front of them?

Apparently we stopped using it after WW2.

Is that the sdkfz 250/8 or /9??

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Sounds like waste of Panthers, it is a medium in name only. When Germany had so many Panzer IIIs still in use, more wedges with Panthers rather than placing them behind Tigers would’ve better played better to what they had rather than simply using all of your best heavies in one spot. The Panzer III/IVs should’ve been in the middle using the big cats to reach enemy infantry lines.

Called a lead tank formation

Kursk wins the all time Prize for “Telegraphing your Punch “

This formation was never used in combat. As soon as the fighting started or an enemy encounter was expected, the tank platoons moved more or less independent to take effective use of terrain and available cover. The Germans trained this formation mostly to create an awareness for the right amount of space between elements.

Don’t you mean panzer III medium tank because the panzer II was a light tank

How general was said bugs me 😂

That Tiger E not H1 they different

If the Germans used the Panzerkeil, the Soviet countered it with the Panzercartman

isn't this same formation as the battle of 73 easting in the gulf war?

Didn’t they use this during the blitzkrieg

Wouldn't it be a easy target for artillery I mean they are packed in one place

Not panzer kyle he'""punch holes in anything now

Dont see this formation nowadays especially in Ukraine war. I just see long lines of Russian AFVs in column formation. I guess land mines have negated the effectives of this tactic?

Panzer 2 in 1943?

Panzer 2?! Are you fucking kidding me?

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I don’t think any tds would be in that formation lol,also poor Germany could barely afford to mechanize just some of its infantry most where on foot or used horses for equipment transport