Roman Battle Tactics 

There are old sell-swords and bold sell-swords, but there are no old, bold sell-swords. -Brown Ben Plumb

+Bazuzeus sam fisher lol

+Bazuzeus they had better moral better training and the best equipment

+Anarchist o war They had because they were veterans of battles where they had worse equipment

they were hardly ever used,and were given top of line stuff. and if it got destroyed they would replace it.

A shameful display!!!

+Danny Phan THIS IS A SHAMEFUL DISPLAY

+Danny Phan OUR MEN FLEE THE FIELD OF BATTLE!!!!!1!!!111!!

LOL the TW guys are here again

+Danny Phan That's because all TW battles are mosh pits. In reality, those situations almost always led to confusion and panic. Apparently CA doesn't understand discipline and formation. Whether or not a unit runs away is based on casualties and the status of the general, according to CA.

But the Marian Reforms mad baller ass troopies.

Facts

you can keep recruiting them as long as you haven't researched Cohort Organisation

@@5ynthesizerpatel In Rome 1, when any of the Roman factions builds Imperial Palace, Marian Reforms begins and you can't recruit old school anymore.

It has to be an imperial palace IN ITALY aswell

it was when Rome invaded Carthage

+Supreme Onii-Chan it was actually when Carthage invaded Rome (well Roman territory)

Close enough xD never knew much roman stuff but im still learnin

It was when the forces of House Arryn rescued the Romans from the genius military Commander: Ramsay Bolton

He was there, his father was a triarrii god damnit

So the romans were the first to make it to space

@@pqbdwmnu *Nazi Vikings

* send the Spartans II

I prefer to Winly translate, thank you.

For the Emporer brother

nah, for that game just put skirmishers up front and infantry behind them

yep

Matt Pask Rome 2 actually

Well, Total War in general but yes.

Matt Pask I play Attila: Total War. The air was filled with smoke and blood.

Those damn Roman squares! They destroyed Carthage.

Brand recognition, Historia Civillis does it well

​@@Zarafin Hanno II and his greed destroyed Carthage 😂 Rome should have erected golden statues of the carthaginian aristocrat throughout the city

Lol

Hannabal was a genius who was betrayed by his own senate. History was almost nearly completely different.

me too

yeessss

Did you find it

Did you find it

Italy and Greece are the best thing that could ever happen

@@berghesein Would replace Italy with Rome but sure that'll do.

he said the phalanx was the first system Rome adopted, not that they were the first to use it.

@@Aloysius2113 yes I know, although I see how the way I wrote it is a little up in the air.

@@Aloysius2113 "they first used it" not "they were first to use it"

Cynoscephalae?

​@@RamdomViewYep, his name is lost to history, so lets just call him Chadus Maximus 🎉

Lol, and the war dogs

+Dweliq and the screeching women?

don't forget the druids!

Roman ninja Arcanii

what game u talking about?

Spam light cavalry.

Good thing I had pikemen to counter

Patrick Mcgowan Horse archers bruh.

Inebolu Balikcisi good thing i brought skirmishers

Patrick Mcgowan Mangonels for the win.

Spoiler alert: Guess what happened to Rome next.

Marius happened~~

More like Mister C and his crossing of the Rubicon.

Yeah thats why the praetorians later became the king makers.

You’re assuming essentially instant communications. When it took a week to get a message to or from your army, you can’t effectively control your army anyway.

He said the ROMANS were more virtuous than the famously austere Spartans...

Dave Cöen .

@@lucasblaise11 The Spartans have nothing on the Romans.

@@CThyran That's why he's comparing them

@@jackattack9118 ya, the Spartans were far more brutal and crazy than Rome ever thought of being and that's saying something.

+Duesal Bladesinger Unless the unit marches towards an un-organized enemy unit.

Riley The Flaming Wookie Cookie True, but even then it's rather slow, so even unorganized units would be able to get out of the way or around the phalanx.

Duesal Bladesinger True, not very effective unless you're protecting a narrow path or the phalanx can stretch across the entire battlefield. Although the Roman's managed to improve upon the Phalanx with their "Testudo".

+Duesal Bladesinger Alexander the Great saw this weakness and made some changes to the traditional phalanx. He made the phalanx a tight, slow moving unit that lumbered towards the front line as his other units moved about. He had mercenaries stationed in front and behind the blocks to shoot arrows and throw spears. He made the sarissas longer so they could deflect missiles. Alexander also established a second line of mercenaries behind his phalanxes to avoid flanking. He also had cavalry from Theassaly to guard his left flank (he was on the right himself). When he entered eastern Persia he integrated elephants into his army, so the phalanx groups had to be smaller.

MrNotadream You forgot the "Jon Snow" at the end.

things never have only one cause. Both are true.

@@manuelmigoya2109 Tell that to House...

@@navy2af lmao

@@manuelmigoya2109 When the cohort came into being, it was after (most of) the traditional 'civilised' enemies were already defeated and Rome faced another round of fresh menace from Gaul and Germany in the west and Parthia in the east. Protracted service lead to professional armies and that lead to cohorts.

Rome's first armed forces were civilians turned soldiers to defend their own territory - or capture the neighbouring one. The different soldier classes mirrored the different classes in their society. Velites - lightly armed skirmishers were recruited from the poor citizens who still could afford to buy the gear required Hastati - the younger citizens with enough cash to buy a helmet, breastplate, sword, shield and javelins. Principes - the more mature citizens with more money to buy better equipment Triarii - combat veterans who had seen many battles and had enough money to buy the most expensive gear Now I wonder myself, what if you were a mature citizen but rather poor? Would you still have fight with the Hastati? Probably. Roman logic about serving to defend Rome: if you had a stake in the Roman state, however small, you were obliged to invest in military gear, do the training and go on campaign. The poorest class, who had no money, didn't have any obligation to fight because they couldn't afford the gear. And the state was not going to provide it for them at time in history. *Main reasons for the Marian Reforms IMO:* *1.* Roman citizens were mostly farmers who had to return to their farms for the harvest - prolonged campaigns caused these farmers to lose their property because it was neglected, not producing any income because little farming was done and many of poor farmers were bought out by the big corporations/ wealthy Roman citizens who were also of the Senatorial class and who created big superfarms out of their 'collection' of acquired estates (Latifundia); *2.* The class of disposessed poor Romans without money had become so big and was growing every day (see 1.) that the ruling class was thinking, why not give them a chance to fight and gain glory and riches, while also if they died it was no big loss to Rome - anyway with them in the army, they were removed from the streets and alleys (begging, stealing from decent Roman citizens, etc.) *3.* After serving their full 20 year term (it varied) in the legions, veterans were settled in conquered lands if land was available - this had several advantages: these former poor Romans would not be returning to Rome, by settling them in conquered territory they were accellerating the colonization efforts and if there were enemy infiltrations or rebel uprisings, militias could recruit quite a few veteran soldiers from the Roman colonists; But as many people who have read a bit of Rome's history, there never was enough conquered land to settle all veterans, a major issue for Caesar and for which he fought on the Senate floor. The wealthy Romans, most from the senatorial class, would also reserve the best land for themselves, increasing their own wealth and power even more. The rich were getting incredibly richer, the poor were forced to join the legions for a chance at a better life or remain on the streets and in the slums, relying on free bread and games to survive. All this also explains why the Roman armed forces, following the Marian Reforms, had little to no feelings of loyalty to Rome itself. Rome had a bargain with these new kind of soldiers - get rid of the poor by making them fight on a far away front and if they lost or won, most times they would never return to Rome. In my opinion, it's not that the new type of Roman soldiers were greedier, it's just that looting enemy posessions was their only opportunity to improve their own living standards. Some less informed people might think, why not get a job on one of those big superfarms or Latifundia instead of risking your life by going to war? Rome's superwealthy didn't have paid workers on their lands. On these superfarms, masses of slaves were forced to do back breaking work. Being a house slave in Rome was a super cushy job compared to the former and even a gladiator had better prospects than a slave on a superfarm.

SPQR!

Agree @Historia Civilis rocks🤘

No U “My OCD trumps human mortality “

...edgy

@@lenny_1369 dude i made this comment 4 years ago i have no fuckin idea what i was on lmao I think i mighta been quoting something

@@bukay5861 You were sharing what the freeze-frame joke is at 7:50 :)

Bump

+Daythem Kaverous Holy shit I did not notice that.

+Daythem Kaverous I was just about to say that ;p

HERMANNNNNN!!!!!!!

His videos are infested with these :D

It's an army of 5K now...but later when the battle gets hot, it's an army of 12K. How this happens is a mystery to us all.

@@tom.walderThats steam full force unlike the japanese invasion of pearl harbor in 1941.

@@tom.walder😂under appreciated comment!

Everyone works. Don't stop until it's done. You'd be surprised how much 10,000 guys can accomplish when they're following orders.

@@JohnDobak and being slaves dying of overwork

@@Dervitoxisn’t that just the story of the Ancient World?

You’d be surprised how much you can build when you’ve got 10,000 slaves working on it and “fair labor standards” are nonexistent in the time period

I think they were Greeks not Romans

Your pun gives me cancer but a pun is a pun and I respect that

Bon apple tea intensifies

That's really a feature of the recruitment system, not the organizational system. In theory, it would have been entirely possible to continue with the maniple system, let recruits work their way up from hastati to triarii while using state-provided equipment. There were iirc even times during the 2nd Punic War when that was indeed done.

If you could, could you quickly confirm something for me? I have a running theory that the audio quality of these video used to not be so poor, but some sort of RU-vid copyright system has made it so. Do you happen to remember what the audio quality was like back in the day? Thanks!

​​@@geekzombie8795 Sounds like an implausible theory, sorry to say. Even way back further in the mid 2000s we had people uploading HD content and HD audio captured using HD capable equipment. If you find those videos the audio quality is still very good due to the original bitrate being very good. It's primarily on the channel uploaders who many lacked the equipment or technical knowhow to have better audio, especially back then. Poor microphones or software capture settings for example. Also, for this video, most classical music are in the public domain, so they wouldn't be subjected to any degradation due to copyright prevention or detection if any such system DOES exist. I could be wrong though and would be surprised if what you suggested is true. But the facts so far point to your idea not being plausible.

No

Nooo

This is box country, gtfo

Grymbaldknight brilliant and helpful suggestion

Bobonono ono. No!

***** Doesn't sound like a microphone problem but a signal chain problem. It sounds like this is recorded at the same sample rate as an AM radio broadcast. Learning to record a voiceover in an audio workstation at a higher sample rate might be a better option. I don't know though, he might be recording with a gaming headset or something, and in that case, at least get a good USB mic like a Blue Yeti... You can find a good one used for sure.

***** I'm listening on quality headphones and his voice is crystal clear to me. Maybe you have a more sensitive ear than me, but I figured I'd let you know since it could also be some audio issue on your end.

Will Mountain Great points. Plus it might just as well be a problem with RU-vid. My friend and I made few tutorial videos for our students and the end result was bad. To put it mildly. After many tries we gave up and just asked students to give us pendrives and we will return them with records, since they were a lot better before RU-vid black box did something.

It was 2015 and the Channel was still growing back then.

Nice story

pawns at the front for a reason

Noobies at the front, if they survive, promote them. Veterans at the front wasn't the Roman way, but it was the Spartan way. Spartans had their best troops in the front. It's an interesting contrast considering both armies excelled in the ancient world.

Trepur349 s

+Trepur349 Also if the more experienced at front and they route or get killed in battle, that would be bad for the soldiers at the back with less experiance and just witnessed their best men being taken out by the enamy forces. Not good for moral

The only roman tactic after 200 ad was hiring barbarians while the "romans" sat in the cities having sex, wine, bread and being scared shitless.

I'm not really seeing the racism, but anyways... You guys are all wrong. The late Roman army was every bit as tough, disciplined, and effective as earlier times, and was never "all mercenaries." The early imperial army was comprised of over 50% auxiliary troops. The late army was no different. The late Roman Army was also 2-3 times larger than in earlier times, and they campaigned on multiple fronts every year. And the army of Aurelian, or Constantine was unstoppable.

Sam Davis yea

I did see that. Awesome.

yes

i am

good call

Well I guess you’re some kind of smart guy or something huh

+Shard Live Action Roleplaying god im seeing you everywhere...

What ?

The background music in this video is the 2nd Movement from Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique.

+TheusZeusDeus Shut up... You more on...

***** I disagree.

***** What are you saying ? You say stupid things: a legion had more or less 5000 / 7000 men + some few "auxilia" troops !!! 300 000 / 700 000 is a modern army !!!

Leves, Rorarii, and Accenssi in the early manipular system too

Vincent Pataray hell fucking yes

Vincent Pataray That army got wiped out? Send the 4th one in!

Or Sun Tzu

@@Em-yd9jn so basically Roman army type?

+Ineta Life floppy dongs

Ineta Life is that a reference to vsauce

do online now guys

***** Well i'm not wrong... A suicide bomb could easily kill dozens of soldiers at once...

shut the fuck of

Adityo Wahyu Nugroho You spelled "up" so wrong... Like, you didn't even get a single letter right...

***** Super effective!

+Plato I am sorry but this conversation is stupid. You guys know they didn't had explosive back then right?? It was the people in China that invented the explosive so taking that into consideration, means that they first would have to invade Asia, then learn how the explosive worked, then figure out how to use it in battle! Considering this, means that the Romans earliest could have used this tactic when they had established they're empire which would render this tactic pretty much useless to even adapt to they're army! Plus where would you find a person who would be willing to blow himself up just to take some soldiers with i mean, you would really have to be on shrooms or being very dedicated to the cause of what they had to do!

Yeah just go on...

Matthew Marden that was more of a marching stance, not a fighting one

I love the Republic