GET RID OF THE 212? | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Mike Van Wyck & Guy Cisternino | Bro Chat  

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Fouad single handedly ruining productivity for 8-5ers at least twice a week lately lol

Love having big Mike on the podcast

Mike has to be a regular I’m pumped! Dude is hilarious

It’s cool hearing Mikes laugh in the background of every joke. Like you can always count on Mike to laugh at everything

The Mike and iain dynamic is so funny man. Soon enough this’ll be a Canadian only podcast 😂

Mike is an awesome addition to the podcast.... really down to earth guy.

I have to agree, Mike being on twice now has been a nice addition, well spoken lots of knowledge!!

Mike & Jose have been two great new additions

1:31:40 Fouads face killed me here. You can tell those headphones + Guys screaming had Fouads ears in pain 😂

Mike's humility about falling is great. I'm 265 and I slipped on a concrete beam I've got on the edge of my pond. Landed half in the water- knee ribs and serratus to the concrete. Blammmo! Occasional reminders of humanity can be good for the soul, but all my compound movements say otherwise...

My pro career was short (2 years). Most memorable was my first Olympia (202 Class) and the first 2 shows I did, which I won. Next memorable would be when I was prepping for the NY Pro and chilling with Guy and Jon Delarosa during weekly check ins with Fak. That was the first time I really “felt” like I was a real pro, doing real pro stuff. I remember having fun back stage with some of the guys at the NY and Toronto Pro (Seth Feroce is a FUNNY BASTARD!). I remember being afraid of botching my posing routine, I remember a long conversation with Jose Raymond at the O while we both did cardio. But generally, it was all a blur. I can definitely relate with Mike on this one.

Love seeing the guys argue and then realizing that they agree overall just to keep arguing about the same things only realizing that they agree again, lol! You guys crack me up! Mike just sitting there with a smile on his face while the rest are getting heated. Maan, this podcast is pure gold and it’s so cool that Mike has become a part of the podcast.

Literally just finished the last podcast and now onto the next, i enjoy every one!!!

This is the crew I was looking for. Fouad you’re killin it man! 🔥

This combo, fouad, mike, ian. Guy. I’m dead! Was on the floor laughing non stop. Wanna see more of the four of you on the podcast together.

I like how Fouad asked if Mike drinks an hour in after they talked about drinking in the beginning😂

Ego is the reason we miss moments of our lives. I missed my amateur career because of the pressure, always in my head, focused on “the next” - never present. To experience anything it requires presence - state of consciousness Vs state of unconsciousness when we’re in our head stressing or always looking forward. Gotta stop to smell the roses

I understand Ian and respect the shit out of him for being real. No handouts, this is life it ain’t fair, keep fucking working.

I love Guy ❤ He acts like such an innocent kid sometimes , gets angry during debates ! But he’s genuinely a sweetheart and that reflects from his face ❤

Love having Mike on but really liked the other dynamic with Paul and Jose u and Mike all laughed and understood each other to a T

Love that Mike's on the podcast, I think he's on speaker view cause the screen flashes on his face everytime someone else talks lol. Gallery view man.

Mike has become my favorite on these podcasts. I never followed him before but after watching a few with the rest of Bro Chat, I jumped on watching him and it is crazy how much he knows about movements and exercises. Crazy how I didn't know about him prior, but glad his part of the group now... keep it going Fouad, the new crew coming in are great.

Saw Big Mike in the thumbnail and automatically thought "YESSSSSS"

Big Mike is such a great addition to the show

Fouad - give yourself a pat on the back. You are the glue that holds all these awesome people together.

Funny how in certain areas Guy and Fouad argue against catering to everybody, but when discussing bodybuilding everyone (short guys) should have their own little place to compete.

Guy yelling is single-handedly the best thing ever 😂

I like Mike, he is humble and seems he gets along with the guys. Really hope he keeps on coming to the show!

The highlight here is Fouad getting better at Excel every time :D

I love listening to you guys argue or debate. Guy and Iain got so heated this one but i know its all love at the end of the day. Thanks for not cutting it lol

When i needed the podcast the most Fouad knows! Going through some tough times and the podcast helps a bunch making me relax and get rid of the stress while i'm at work or at home after the gym

I agree 100% with Iain, because if not, than Clarida isn’t big enough sorry, and he must finish dead last…. But quality isn’t mass only, and body building and 212 have the same purpose on that

Can’t beat a bit of mike !!! Brilliant addition. Thanks again

I absolutely agree with Iain on this one. Stop filling the pro ranks with low quality bodybuilders. The best way of doing that, is making the amataur ranks more competitive to make being a pro harder and also while being a pro. If the loser bodybuilders want to give up, let them give up. In order to have winners, you need losers: otherwise the game isn't good anymore.

Mike and Iain saying like and right. Being Canadian I get it haha. Thanks for the information and entertainment 💪🏽

GET RID OF THE 212? there goes Guy´s legacy

Love that you're having Big Mike on!

WE SEE VANWYCK WE VANCLICK

I think the reason all these other classes were made is so the promoters and leaders of ifbb to make more money it was not for the competitors

It’s cool seeing big mike on the podcast, he’s a smart dude

Alright Mike is back, thank you uncle fouad and bc crew, please stay safe and always share the love brothers 🙏🇵🇭❤️

Mike is such a great addition!

We need an all Canada episode. Mike, Iain, Paul.

A f*ckin sea lion up there😂 - Big Mike 2023

I’m a cop. I have an absolutely terrible memory. It’s partly due to the fact that I try not to remember half the shit I deal with. It’s also partly due to the fact that I’m always worried about the next thing/next call the next training session. I feel like people who are goal-oriented and productivity driven, focus more on the future rather than the past So in terms of memory, it’s just discarded at times and the finer details of the more mediocre happenings

Mike is such a great guy. Love seeing him back!

Mike and Iain?! 🙏🏼Killin it Fouad

There just isn't a better podcast than this one. Fouad, you do a great job. Don't believe what topics you come up with, but your crew is great.

CBUM winning the Open Olympia this year was a bold an amazing statement by Fouad. Need to hear a debate about this.

Kick ass podcast again boys… Best in the business BY FAR!!!!!!

It feels like my world is coming together all at once. Trailer park boys is the funniest show ever

Fouad’s arguments are always so frustrating. He takes twenty minutes to understand what the other side is saying, eventually comes around, and restates their argument like it was his all along. 1:43:42

If bodybuilding is judged properly size doesn't matter. Shawn is a perfect example of this. His muscle matches his frame. So a bigger guy who's taller should be judged against him based on overall look on his frame. Taking it to a size game makes the sport more dangerous

Mike was the only one who didn't try to shout over the others when arguing.

We need a mike and fouad podcast

Big Mike giving trailer park boys references! Love it hehe

I’ve literally watched the singer 100x on replay and have cried laughing every time. Pls Fouad play random funny clips more often

Can you get Mike on again and ask him some detail questions about Antoine vaillant how they met? Work/train together? Antoine personality? Work ethic? How Antoine background might help him now? Recovery from both bicep tears? Training for Olympia? AAS/ supplement use? Thanks fouad you guys are the best!

Keep bringing mike on the podcast.

Iian is right on the 212 stuff. Sorry guys. There is genetic superiority in sports. There is a reason why most other sports have a very detailed teir system. Basic ex: high school

Brother you guys make me laugh hardcore! I look forward to these podcasts every week. Fucking hilarious!

I’m getting behind on these podcasts, but am I the only person who argues along like these guys can hear me?

I really believe that 212 if they want to compete in open they should be a weight limit to enter,example 215 to up why because is obviously Clarida is going to be shredded he’s short not fare

Middle linebackers are not no 5’8 😂

lmao! “That was the sound Mike made when he fell out of his truck.”

Mike x Iain x Fouad x Paul EH Chat

I think loser for the Arnold classic predictions should get a head tattoo like Mike. Ha, ha, ha ha, thank you for today’s podcast. Love you all.

I love that Mike experienced his first heated debate 😂

I used a log book (aka my cell phone) in the beginning to show what I was pushing my self on and where I was improving. After about 1-2 years, I dropped it and go with feel of the weight and exhaustion of the muscle

Love the 212 debate Good podcast fouad!

The singer 😂😂😂 OMG THE SINGER!!!!! Funniest moment so far

Mike is a great addition!

In reference to the 212 argument, I’m pretty sure there is an interview out there somewhere from a few years ago in which Chris Bumstead states that if the Classic category wasn’t created, he would never have competed in open so would have never pursued bodybuilding.

Hopefully we can enjoy Guy without him trying to sell us Kratom.

Please upload to Spotify! Only platform I listen too in the car

Ian is right. 212 should go away and just leave open. I feel classic and men’s physique are different and should stay separate.

I think you should do a podcast with guy, jose and clarida,and ask shawn if he would have competed if there wasn't a 212 class

I agree with Iain on this one, I loved seeing Guy get all fired up. You guys have the best podcast, makes the day better! Thanks boys

Enjoyed the discussion on 212. But saying those guys need to get to 250 to be competitive isn't true either. Shaun isn't 250 and he will be extremely competitive. He just needed time from turning pro to get competitive, but that's true of most open guys getting competitive too. What weight did Shaun turn pro at and what is he at now. Is that that much bigger of a % increase than what Iain has had to achieve to be competitive? And if shows are stopping hosting 212 classes because they aren't generating interest, then doesn't that invalidate the business argument too?

The answer to bodybuilding isn't eliminating the 212. Imop I think the IFBB should have the NPC weight divisions as pros and let each class do an overall for the title/money of the show. Doing that would have many more pros be able to compete in a weight class that they belong in. And it would be much safer health wise. You'd still get the monsters in the super heavies and those freaks can get as big as they want. But instead of all those weight classes have say a middle weight up to not 178 but 185 pounds. Have a Light heavy not up to 198 but 210. Heavy weight not up to 225 but 240. Then have anything over 240 as super-heavy. 4 divisions. Ifbb would bring in more money, there be more pros that can actually compete and it would be healthier because people would stay in a certain divisions and still possibly be able to win the overall to win the show. And the Olympia and the Arnold, no weight divisions. You have to the overall of a show to qualify for the no division Olympia.

when guy says " he was 5-7-5'8, he was tall"

Big mikeeee!!! Thanks to you my arm workouts are crazy

The arguments always add a dynamic other podcasts lack! Love hate relationships for everyone! That’s real entertainment 😂

RBP is the best thing I’ve came across.

Perfect length for this podcast title

Every podcast: 'so we are in agreement...again...'

Absolutely love this podcast, great as usual

Would love to see a solo podcast of Fouad and Iain debating all sorts of topics 🤣

Great podcast love Mike lol hes hilarious

Mike is lowkey hilarious

“They are barely breaking in, Guy” Lost it. 😂

Guy went from 0-100 so quick 😂😂love it

Seeing this lineup on Bro chat, Fouad has set himself to win a show because neither Iain nor Guy have an alliance mate on here and Fouad has Mike this show!

I love angry Guy and argument Ian lmao

Why not go back with height instead of weight ? Like the old time with 2 "Mr Olympia" and then you can compare them to have THE Mr O.

Iain is future ifbb pro Head judge💯❤️

Iain's one liners are killing me

Hopefully we’ll continue to see more of Mike!

There is no reason to eliminate the 212. Let it there for people who want to compete in it and whenever one feels ready to go for the Open he will do so.