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"y'all have the same forehead size" jacob: my forehead is so massive "you just have a long face not a big forehead" jacob: am i some sort of long headed freak 💀💀 i love it
Both. And I no longer question; I just live in the knowledge that there's most likely people of any gender that I will think: *hot damn* about. (Though I also know that I'm bi, but not exactly how, and it's not terribly long since I realised.)
About the Speed draw question: Yes, there is a sizeable population of people who just watch speed draws on RU-vid, and you would probably attract non-drawfee watchers who enjoy speed draws if you labeled them, because those people may not know that drawfee does speed draws occasionally, and they may just assume that all drawfee videos are the usual format. Or, those who don’t know who drawfee is but are searching for “speed draw”, those videos will then come up in the search results too.
additionally, a lot of those people search for "speedpaint" instead, and that tag's got decades of being associated with full illustrations. that might be something to consider.
I would absolutely second this. When I used to watch more RU-vid, I was watching a lot more art channels, and the speed draws would consistently be most popular, except for like sketchbook flipthroughs or whatever.
@@JeM130177 It also helps that the vibe of their speedraws are I'd say kinder? They're not mean in their normal format, but the speedraws brings out their support for one another, and a lot of people who like art, want to do art, or do other creative things, that's not a thing that people can really get enough of.
Brilliant. Makes me realize i should get a compass on the back of a hand to help when giving map directions when GMing D&D. So many times i say East and mean West or vice versa.
I do a similar thing. Every time there's an animal on screen all I can think now is "What a good girl/boy!" either that or my brain goes into kid mode making me actually say out loud "Kitty!" like a toddler learning to identify things. Largely for creatures that are supposed to be frightening though that last one.
If I had a nickel for everytime Jacob accidentally opened the Kindle app on stream, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I genuinely appreciated the call out to autistic people being a good hang. As someone who works with autistic kids, they are so much fun and have so much to give and I can see so many of them going off and doing amazing things. Also having the tism myself, it’s really nice to hear that there are people who appreciate the passionate rants and shit I go on lmao. It was just very nice and you guys are very wholesome. Thanks for being my background friends. ❤
I agree. My best friends ask follow-up questions and patiently listen to my monologues about sharks, small plastic toy collection, personalities of my various cuddly friends, and sticker collection.
Unmasking was the only way I made real friends, so, hard agree We are often good to be around. Not every autistic person is good to be around, but many of us? Excellent
@@baffledmouseI would like to see the stickers. I understand you can’t show them to me. But I would like to see them anthropologically. I bet they’re so good
"I just want to say that Julia from 15 years ago would have already beaten this level." Jacob seems to make her laugh so effortlessly even when she's talking about hard shit. It's really quite sweet.
What I really love is what this particular interaction implies: that Julia is so certain of his meaning, and so sure of his care that something that probably a while ago would have felt really bad just makes her laugh.
Chat: "The balls is wrong but idk how" Julia: "The balls is wrong." Jacob: "Me when I am trying to shave down there." Me: *has to pause cuz laughing too hard* OMG Jacob, you can't say that! xD
The house (third level) interiors are from a game they streamed in 2019, Dead Secret! It startled me when I noticed the 3 white and 1 red masks in the office, and got deja vu. The living room portraits are character profiles from that game. Only realized much later, but the recurring woodcutter character and mask is also from that game.
I initially thought maybe the Woodcutter was like a secret nod to that game, until I saw the house. It's been driving me mad that either chat didn't notice or they just didn't see it in chat lol
I was initially confused by how Julia was describing biology tbh. When I think of biology, I'm thinking more about stuff like animal behavior, evolution, ecology, etc. But I remember how biology was taught in school, and yeah, they spent way too much time on shit like organelle identification.
HS bio is so focused on cellular bio and human anatomy. It's just too wide a field to actually teach anything that would actually interest the vast range of baby biologists
For real, why did they obsess over the small (literally microscopic) picture? I literally have a biology degree and love biology but the way it was taught to me pre-college was pretty boring. If they focused more on the major ideas maybe more people would have cared and retained the information because a lot of that stuff is applicable to things you can observe in real life, versus knowing what the fucking rough endoplasmic reticulum does. I DON'T EVEN FULLY REMEMBER!
@@skystygian Totally agree! Like, biology is applicable in real life in so many ways, and sure, human anatomy is super useful too, but it's one of the driest, most dull subjects. Even people who work with it find it dry. Sometimes I think no one has sat down, like really sat down, and thought about exactly the overlap between "This is fundamental, super useful and they need to know" and "This is interesting, and will make them want to know more".
aaabsolutely, I'm a biologist, and from my experience what she's describing is what you learn in intro biology (like in high school), but that's not what biology actually IS! and it's really a shame that so many people have that experience
35:30 : It helps a lot to be able to name and differentiate between *“I hate this thing and therefore everything and everyone attached to it is a pos,”* and *“This thing just doesn’t click with me personally.”* Being able to understand that something just doesn’t click with someone (and that’s okay), and that 90% of the time this is what people mean when they talk about not liking something, takes such a weight off your shoulders when people say they don’t like something you do. And being able to voice that distinction when talking about things you don’t like helps ease that tension for others. At least in my personal experience.
So I followed Julia's mom's channel and she currently has 922 followers! I have been watching since about 2020 but decided I wanted to try and find Jacob & Julia's original twitch streams together, well the first one on the RU-vid VOD channel is from April 2019 (not technically the beginning) and in that video Julia immediately talks about how her mom would never do Twitch streaming and I thought that was such a funny coincidence!
1:48:14 i always appreciate how open julia is about stuff like this, even when she 10000000% doesn’t have to be. it’s comforting to know that other people are out there who have similar experiences to you
I thought Jacob's tall forehead haircut was super cute when he got his wedding haircut and am really pleased he's gone for a similar cut this time. Short sides and a textured top suit a thin face.
I feel like your fan base swinging over to Julia's mom's cooking stream will be a good soft encouraging cushion for her to get her sea legs with. She will have viewers which is super encouraging and I'm sure everyone will have positive vibes. It's gonna be a great environment for to learn in
Can Julia’s mom make a RU-vid vod channel for her cooking streams??? Like this one??? I am SUPER interested in her stuff - but I work the graveyard shift, in a time zone most people forget even exists, and the chances of me being able to make it to a live stream are basically zero. But I still wanna see and support! 😭
Am also bad at words; currently majoring in biology and my saving grace is things being taught in terms of processes and cause-and-effect instead of "this is what this is called, and it does x thing but we're not going to explain how that happens." I love being able to explain why systems are doing what they're doing; hate having to stare at a list of nonsense garbage words and being expected to memorize and regurgitate them without context.
For fans who cant tell Olive and Joy apart, I saw a post that helps me spot who is who so I'll spread it farther. Joy has one eye covered and is one syllable in her name, Olive has both/two eyes covered and has two syllables in her name
My teen and I have been playing Observation Duty because of SSS, and we JUST picked up Seeing Things last night. Now they're telling me I'm not allowed to watch this because of spoilers but I'M A REBEL.
Not me at work watching this and busting out laughing at the ball shaving joke. I could not find a PR friendly way to explaing the joke to my coworker.
someone needs to make a Men In Black jumpscare/intuition/empathy inspired version of these games, where a portion of the weird shit that happens is weird but not suspicious/dangerous and you have to both see the disturbances and judge wether or not to act on them.
Wild hearing my two favorite streamers don't know what a triceratops is. I mean on the one hand, I get it. Learning names for animals you will never meet is like learning monster names for games you don't play. It is kind of like trivia rather than an applicable skill. But on the other hand, triceratops is the maybe the second most well known dinosaur. You'd think people would just passively absorb it.
The two skeletons in that scene are the only two dinosaurs I know the name of. Literally those two. None other. But I wouldn't have if there hadn't been a whole thing in my family about my sister being like a specific triceratops, referenced well into her 30s.
The “my brain was suddenly completely different” re: PTSD is so freaking real. There’s pre trauma me and the me that I transformed into the moment that the trauma happened, and they’re similar but also fundamentally different. It’s an absolutely wild and unsettling feeling. Much love to Julia, we’re hanging in there
Yeah, it's weird. As someone who's technically "always" had PTSD brain, I didn't get it until I had another massive trauma a few years ago. It hurts and is terrifying, especially if you lose things, lifestyle, family, or security, but neuroplaticity and desensitisation is really actual things and to me at least, that they even are, brings a lot of hope. I guess I have an advantage in my disadvantage though, because I've never known what it's like to not be this way, with triggers and developmental setbacks and flashbacks.
I also just wanted to point out that fossil fuels are actually made of fossilized planktons, not dinosaurs. And coal is made of dead scale trees from the carboniferous, so none of our stuff is powered by dinosaurs.
@ConfusedOctopus What do you mean why? Why is the sky blue? I guess the best answer I have is that dino fossils are large bones that turned into rock over time. You can't really use that for fuel. Typically none of the flesh that contains the energy is left in animal fossils. The creatures that became oil are microscopic plants mostly, like algae for example, and there are many thousands of them, and I'm not a paleontologist but something about their molecular makeup and the way they fossilized into an energy rich sludge makes them a good fuel source. The reason coal is a good fuel source is that it's mostly carbon. Basically, back then, wood was so new that nothing had evolved yet that was able to break down wood and use it for food so all those fallen trees just stayed there until they eventually got buried and fossilized and because they weren't being broken down all that carbon wasn't returning back to the atmosphere. Now that we're burning it, it's all going back and that's what's causing the greenhouse effect warming up the planet. I imagine oil is a good fuel for much the same reason. Plants as autotrophs are much better energy sources than animals are because they get their energy directly from the sun and biomass is lost with each step up the food chain.
@@ConfusedOctopus I guess the best answer I have is that dino fossils are huge bones that eventually turned into rock. You can't really use that for fuel. The creatures that became oil were mostly microscopic plants, like algae for example. I'm not a paleontologist, but something about their molecular structure and the way they fossilized turned them into an energy rich sludge that makes a good fuel source. Coal is a good fuel source because it's mostly carbon. Basically, back then, nothing had evolved yet that was able to break down wood, and so the fallen trees just stayed there until they got buried and fossilized over time. Because they weren't being broken down, all that carbon wasn't being released back into the atmosphere. (Now we're burning it though and it's going back into the atmosphere and creating the greenhouse effect that's causing global warming.) I imagine oil is a good fuel source for much the same reason. Plants are better energy sources than animals because they get their energy directly from the sun and biomass is lost with each step up the food chain. But also, the parts of animals that contain most of their energy is in the flesh/muscles, not bone, but that's usually all that remains of them because the rest is not durable and is quickly eaten unless there is something there to preserve it, like bogs for example.
Cooking has always been really really hard for me, largely because of my autism and the fact that recipes only ever give you like half the information you need, so I’m really excited for Julia’s mom’s cooking streams.
I feel like recipes often assume you'll know to do stuff to have it prepped before you get to the step it's needed for. Ex. Step 3. Add softened butter. But they never told you to soften the butter beforehand so it's cold and solid.
@@noaccount2494Or they'll introduce a relatively niche piece of kitchen equipment halfway in, just assuming that you own one. "Now combine the ingredients over medium heat (whatever that even means) until thickened but not THAT kind of thickened, you'll need your turkey baster for this :)"
What's real fun about trauma is having no control over what your brain might find traumatizing, then having a lifelong phobia based on that trauma. Like when I was surrounded by caterpillars as a small child, and now lose my sh*t at the sight of them. I've been locked in my house for two weeks while they're in season. And every adult I tell about my phobia is on the verge of laughing in my face, if they're able to contain themselves.
I'm sorry you experience that. My phobia is spiders, which is one of the more common ones, but I understand how uncontrollable they can be regardless of their "perceived validity" on the outside. Phobias/trauma responses suck and no one should be laughed at for it. Sending you good vibes my dude. ✌️
Sorry to hear people are laughing at you. My partner is also super terrified of bugs. I think the incongruity of being terrified of something hundreds of times smaller than you throws people off. I know that probably doesn't help a ton, but you're not alone.
@@thunderscape7 Thank you. Oddly enough, I used to also have a paralyzing fear of spiders, but then it's like a switch turned off in my brain, and now I perceive them neutrally. I kind of wish I knew what changed so I could offer my experience for study.
one of my close personal friends has a very similar fear of ladybugs and he always sounds a little irritated when he mentions it and i know it’s cause he feels that same feeling of like.. “everyone is gonna mock me over having a phobia of something so seemingly harmless and dumb”, but it’s so incredibly reasonable and valid. no one can take away your own lived experience, and even if there isn’t a “valid” reason behind it, it doesn’t change the validity of you feeling that way at all. i’m an insect lover and a clown lover, so two of people’s greatest dislikes are some of my most beloved things, and yet i never feel it’s ridiculous for people to be afraid of them. sure there’s some rational fears that come from either the lizard part of the brain that just senses an inherent danger, or it just stems from some sort of fear of the unknown, but there are plenty of “unnatural” fears with no logical explanation that don’t get mocked. people should apply the common sense of just accepting that fears come in all shapes and sizes, with or without a reason behind them ❤
HUGE appreciation again for the CC. I turned on the VoD the other day and realized it was hard for me to watch without CCs, as much as I wanted to. 😭Thank you!!
you know, you KNOW, WE'RE SEEING CATS today BABY 0:18 warning three is of olive, destroyer of blankets, actively rolling 2:04 julia's getting ready to fight olive 4:11 olive does a big flop over 5:06 olive being so cute and adorable 6:02 a lick, a scratch, and a dig + bye olive 6:46 olive in the hallway 9:12 she's gone 11:21 background cat 12:00 olive making her rounds 13:00 she swaps laps 13:36 how to tell the girls apart: eye patches (olive has both, joy has one), side patches (joy has the frog eye, olive has the stripped slug pattern (this is a joke (but also you can tell them apart by that)), olive is generally on cam more since they moved 16:05 double hand petting olive 20:00 sorry olive + olive accepted the apology didn't leave 23:38 freedom from olive 24:15 background olive does a good tower jump 2:00:02 the yell of a ghost cat 2:05:15 olive descends + checking on joy (she's fine) 2:06:33 background cat + olive's back 2:08:56 bye olive 2:16:35 olive going bug catching 2:17:04 olive visits 2:18:04 olive's gotta go down 2:22:11 hi joy 2:25:07 julia comes in with the joy slide
as part of the 'speed draw in title' convo, im always interested in & click on speedpaints even from artists ive never heard of, but i am also a hobby artist so i'm biased in that way (and they tend to be the type that has no voiceover). i'm not sure 'speeddraw' is used as much though. Maybe its worth an experiment once youre further into the One Weekly Ep Era !
I really like dinosaurs, but mostly bc i like animals, esp birds and reptiles. Especially with new insights about dinosaurs they are more bird like than ever. My favorite dinosaur is microraptor, who had wings on its hind legs as well as its hand claws, glided from tree to tree and had dark, slightly irridescant feathers (based on the fact that impressions of the feathers have been preserved and shown to have the structure of irredescance, which is caused by retracting light, and I believe trace impressions of the pigment cells giving enough info to identify the color within a margin of error)
not to bring drawfee related comments here but since they spent a big section talking about youtube analytics and titling and thumbnails, i wanted to say that as a longtime drawfee viewer, i absolutely think including words like “speed draw” in the title could bring in people who don’t watch the content regularly because even before i found drawfee, i watched a lot of speed draw videos on youtube because i just found it fun and fascinating. and as a current fan, they’re some of my favorite videos so it’d be nice to see it in the title cause that will catch my attention immediately! i’ll sometimes go a month or two in between watching drawfee videos and then just sit down and catch up on a bunch, but if the concept or title catches my eye i’ll watch it right away, and i think if i know it’s gonna be a speed draw ahead of time i’d click on it ASAP!
It makes me so happy to hear that the new Drawfee schedule has helped Jacob pop off in a speed draw, and that they're having more fun recording as. group! We love it when artists get to rest and relax.
oh hell yeah! that's one thing i didn't even realize with the new schedule for drawfee, is that everyone's art is going to shine even more with more free time :D ! i'm so happy they decided to change schedule
Somone gotta tell Jacob that you can cover a hand tattoo with foundation if you ever have to hide it for some reason It's cool if he just isn't sure about having it showing in general obviously ❤
I feel like putting the main topic of the video in the title FIRST could be helpful? I loved the anime screencap episode, but if you’re using RU-vid on a small screen, the title’s gonna get cut off and just kind of look like “four artists redraw thei…” or something like that. Rephrasing it so the anime screencap redraw is at the start of the sentence could help people figure out from a glance what the episodes gonna be about. I know nothing about content strategy, like, at all, so take this with a grain of salt, those are just my thoughts
The first giant red flag about Borderlands should have been the casting. Not that Jamie Lee Curtis and Cate Blanchet aren't amazing actresses in their own right, but they're both 3x the age of the characters they're playing. That's just a giant banner saying "we're doing this because of the name recognition, not because it's in service to the movie". Also, aging up Tina and not casting Ashly Burch, her voice actress, was a huge miss, but I guess it's better for her to have not been involved in hindsight.
And Ashly has done physical acting before so its not like she can only do voice acting! I knew it'd be bad when i saw Kevin Hart would be in it, the only good thing he was in was the Jumanji movie.
Just want to say to Julia, thank you for mentioning Astrogoblin. I don’t know that I would have found them without your shout out, and they really capture the magic that Funhaus used to have for me.
Every time Jacob wears two dangly earrings it reminds me I need to get around to getting my other ear pierced (wish I could have just done them both at once but mid-90s-kid-me was too afraid of assigned gender norms and only got the one)
Go! It's so worth it to get the piercings you actually want. I waited for a decade to get helixes because I was afraid of making the choice, but I mean, a decade! I even got them retaken beause I wasn't super satisfied with the placement and it was just so nice!
It is so strange to me that you say knowing anything about dinos makes them less mysterious, because the more I learn about dinos or any other ancient species, the more mysterious they are. There's still so much we don't know about them and the more you learn, the more you come to realize how different they are from anything we've seen in our lifetime and how many questions we have about them may never be answered. Dinosaurs are so much stranger than popular media will ever tell you about. There was once a dino that had both feathers and wings made of thin skin like a bat called Yi qi. There were some that had four wings, one on each limb they could glide through the trees with. Modern day birds are the only living relatives of this once extremely diverse group. Their closest living relatives are the crocodiles. It blew my mind when I learned that birds are technically reptiles. Other animals from long ago I find even more fascinating. There was once a crocodile with hooves. The plains of north America spawned hooved apex predators similar to a pig, the first camelids, and giant horse relatives that walked on their knuckles like gorillas with hands that ended in huge claws used for pulling in tree branches to eat from. The ancestors of whales were tiny hooved creatures kinda like deers. Anyway, I feel like if you're into mystery, paleontology is one of the best fields to look into. There's tons of mysteries you wouldn't even know about otherwise. They say the more you know the less you know and it's absolutely true in my experience, because your knowledge of what you don't know increases.
I completely agree with you, my obsession with natural history has only grown since I was a kid, but I kinda get where they’re coming from. Most pop-paleontology is made for kids, which means they keep things pretty surface-level, and it feels more like memorizing trivia than actually learning. Until recently (thank you PBS Eons), there hasn’t really been any accessible content for adults about dinosaurs and other extinct creatures. You either had to accept watching children’s TV or try to parse dense academic articles yourself. I thought I was “over” natural history for years because I hit this gap. It felt like there was nothing else to learn except for the minutiae academics argue about. Now thanks to content creators, I’ve rediscovered my love for the subject and learned there are many mysteries left to be solved.
I feel like Jacob was talking more generally, about what gets his imagination running, and that being the gap in information and the "there is *something* here", whilst once you get to know stuff about something, your imagination can't be as free because there will be *some* framework. But yeah, some things, the more you know, the weirder stuff is.
I feel like the pop culture phenomenon of the freeze-dried skin & bone dino really does a disservice to potential prehistoric animal fans like myself where like I find all the junk you just said FASCINATING but I feel like media exploring that stuff is just barely crawling into the understanding of dinos as colourful & feathered. Like I'll never forget the time I saw a buncha artists draw imagined versions of modern day animals from their skeletons using the same sorta philosophy as traditional recreations of dinos & realizing just how much fundamental structure & details about those animals have been previously totally lost on folks. Emaciated & corpselike those depictions truly are lacking lips, fatty tissue, fluff, & life because all we had been working with for the longest time is the bones
The little bit about autistic people was so sweet :,) I usually only see autistic positivity from other autistic people, so it was just really nice to hear
1:49:35 I have a similar problem as Julia. Had a traumatic experience about 10 years ago and I still have a panic attack every time I see a large dog and a small dog around each other. There’s also other things I can’t be around or talk about it because of an ex, even though they’re small things that you encounter almost every day.
Was feeling really overwhelmed so I put this VOD on and built a blanket fort. Things are much more manageable inside this soft and happy cocoon. This is a reminder to do things that you love and that make you feel safe for no other reason than because you deserve it. ❤️❤️❤️
Lot of good topics touched on in this stream and I have to second Jacob saying autistic people are interesting. It's so funny as an autistic person to accidentally get caught in an infodump loop cause you both are fascinated by a topic the other knows a lot about so you just circle for hours
Julia describing what she thinks biology is hurts my soul... If it was only ever memorization then your teachers didn't do a good job and that's very sad Also I give dinosaur tours at a natural History museum and would love to try to convert both of them into dinosaur fans, haha
I saw a young woman a couple weeks ago who only had two visible tattoos: an infinity feather thing on her wrist, and a really blurry Pikachu on her hand.
