Getting Faster VS Marathon Training

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WARNING: This long run includes an implosion. My mind melts into mental breakdown a third of the way in this deal. What a pitch! In this "Go Long Run with me" - a more vloggy style video I have done on a couple of occasions, we discuss the difference between getting faster via Speed Blocks like Floberg's Summer of Speed and Marathon Training.
The idea behind this type of video is that you can add it to the queue and listen to it on your own long run or easy run. There are at least 50 shades of Yowana and this is one of them.
Brochachos - I opened up memberships on the channel. About to disclose weekly training updates and member exclusive videos along with early releases. - Stayed tuned as I get the interviews/conversations going with fellow runners like Aubrey from Aubrey Running and Joshua Hubbuard from...Joshua Hubburd.
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@nicknacks7824 Месяц назад

This is my brain on every long run. A roller-coaster of emotions mixed with nonsense thoughts and over analyzing my training. It's a wild ride 😂

@MidLifeRunner 29 дней назад

@@nicknacks7824 glad I’m not alone

@AndrewCho730 Месяц назад

nice you are looking super fit and ready for that 2:5X! The fact that you are talking and running around mid 7 min pace, that's a sign of good fitness! I am not sure if 2:55 is still within reach for me, I wasn't able to train as planned for the last 3 weeks because of some unforeseen life events. Hoping to get back to it soon.

@joshuaxruns Месяц назад

You got this! Excited to cruise in at 2:59:59 with you!

@michite7435 Месяц назад

I think this was my favorite video yet!

@troutjunkie7330 28 дней назад

Yowana style. Much more fun to watch then sitting down 30 times.

@SagasuRunning 29 дней назад

This difference took me YEARS to figure out and I think I've only recently realized it. Focusing on speed this summer has been interesting, so much so I plan on continuing it for the rest of 2024 and likely 2025 (video on this in Sept/Oct). It took me about 4 months to break the habit, as a marathoner, of stressing about volume. Once I broke that running has been much less stressful, workouts have been more focused and easy running has become much more easy. It is a process.

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

Looking forward to hearing about your progress and how things are going. Naturally, I always appreciate the shoe content - but as with many humans on the internet, I think we get invested in the journey. Rooting for you to hit your goals

@SagasuRunning 27 дней назад

@@MidLifeRunner I’ll have an update video on it all in the coming weeks… but exciting stuff ahead (at least to me). Thanks for caring!

@coreyadcock Месяц назад

At this point cardiac drift just slaps me around and says what maf in deebo's voice. 😂

@nicholas5396 Месяц назад

😂

@MidLifeRunner 19 дней назад

I drink my coffee like a shot of liquor in the morning to gird my self esteem. I only listen to Stephen Scullion and Goggins on repeat, alternating inspiration.

@nicholas5396 19 дней назад

@MidLifeRunner in Jockos whisper voice; you want to run in the heat but you can't stay in MAF? GOOOOD.

@MidLifeRunner 19 дней назад

@@nicholas5396 🤣

@ejquezad 29 дней назад

If I make the drive to DC from the Philly area to cheer for you, I am going to get as much video as I can to help your race recap video. That's IF I can go. Looking forward to it.

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

that would be incredible. I did not bring my GoPro for the PR effort so I will likely leave it at home for this one too. 27% of me wants to bring it still to capture the journey but it's an added distraction I don't need

@matthiassventoest6800 29 дней назад

great stuff.., thanks for bringing us along

@JohnBirtchetSharpe Месяц назад

As I am focusing on the half at the moment , my work is more about icreasing speed (but it is just small tweeks from the coach) but it does mean that my longest run at the moments (my steasy / top of MAF range) is 90 minutes (like Matt, Paul uses time too and not distance). Thanks for sharing your run and thoughts. Re you guys and later in life .. it is all relative .. The tet offensive was going on when I was born 🤣 . This being the case I will never fully go down the speed route being a late starter, there is not enough time in the day for an older hobby jogger to fit in the required rest and push the boat out on volume .. while maintaining a job , family etc.. happy to plod along and see small incrementle improvements.

@MidLifeRunner 19 дней назад

Thanks JBS. 90 min steasy is just mentally tough as 90 min zone 3 or MP for me....well almost. Still, it's a lot on the body. It is super challenging with family and work to get in the required rest and recovery. Speaking of which, hope the recovery is going well.

@nichole2757 29 дней назад

Nice share! Whenever I get in my head about accidental start/stops or silly interruptions on the run, I remind myself that the body always takes score, whether it’s recorded or not, you got the benefit from it. Great run, nice video

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

Facts! And thank you

@nrg_runs Месяц назад

Exciting times… the fitness is here! Just consistency and staying healthy at this point 👏🏼👏🏼

@yutheman 29 дней назад

Thanks for sharing! I recently hired a coach and realize my speed sessions weren’t speedy enough to push my VO2max up. Speed has been top of mind. I’m early in my journey in obtaining an even deeper knowledge of running with speed. Learning some new things from your video and taking some notes.

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

Litereally here to share jokes and my experience so others can perhaps get a little benefit. I will say I think hitting a variety of different paces has helped me greatly. Just slower than threshold, threshold, just faster than threshold, 5k pace, mile pace, 800m pace. It feels good

@jameschaves5723 27 дней назад

@@MidLifeRunner shifting gears is a huge benefit but damn if it doesn’t SUCK

@ALRPNW 29 дней назад

Great example of conversation pace!

@Panos_79 Месяц назад

You've been smashing it on speed, I'm very curious to see the difference that will make to your marathon training. As for fueling for the long runs, I've seen a big difference in the last few months since I've been more consistent on that, right now I'm using some cliff bloks (energy chews with caffeine) that I found at a nice deal - having said that, I'm debating if regular fruit jellies would do the trick at a fraction of the cost. This vlog style video was really nice, especially since you could do it without being out of breath, it's something I can't stand as well 🤣

@MidLifeRunner 19 дней назад

lol thanks Panos! I fueled A LOT better on today's long run, which I also took the GoPro - and it made a WORLD of difference. Swedish Fish are my go-to cheap gummy substitute but they stick to my teeth sometimes and that's just unbearable when I'm already uncomfortable running. lol

@English.runner.en.Espana 29 дней назад

Great video mate!!!

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

Thanks B.H.! I'll try to do more of these as I get closer to race day - maybe on a recovery run after a long run on a Sunday.

@akapantsusenpai181 29 дней назад

I never stop my watch. I learned it the hard way. It's better to have a record of the slower time than no record at all.

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

noted

@uMsubathi 29 дней назад

This is so refreshing 😀

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

Thank you!

@Burps___ 17 дней назад

Nice video, like hearing your stream-of-thought while running. My friend, a runner for 20+ years, admonishes all of us for turning off our watches during water and pee breaks. She says that, not only does the official clock keep going during a race, but a genuine reflection of effort is only to see the entire workout "in the raw". The next workout might be faster or slower, but *must* be compared in its totality to know if it is improved from a prior run. "If you want to impress your Strava friends, why not run quarter miles at 5:40 pace and take a five minute break between each by shutting off your watch...after 13.1 miles, your Strava followers will think you're an Olympian," she jokes to us. There's truth there though, I feel. What do you think, @MidLifeRunner??

@MidLifeRunner 17 дней назад

Brilliant! I think it’s a big jump to assume a motivation of impressing Stravians as the root cause. I could care less what others think because I know they don’t care what I run. But she absolutely nailed the first part - as you can’t really know comparative efforts unless they’re the same - if one needs to compare. I think the biggest point is that you can’t stop a watch during a race, so you shouldn’t stop the watch during a run. But that only makes sense if you’re doing a work out. For easy runs, I think it maters a lot less.

@Wings_nut Месяц назад

I'm with Aubrey; I started running in my early 50's. Now in my early 60s and six BQs later, still running...

@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 Месяц назад

Also started running late but at 58. However it wasn't until 10 yrs later that I had any desire to run a marathon, after meeting my now coach. Like you, I’m still running albeit (at 73) 😮with 6 BQ's as well! Just keep moving; it’s all about consistency, right?

@RunningDadAdventures 29 дней назад

Laughing so much. That wasn’t expected. I can relate to so much of this!

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

Glad I am not alone out there

@dustinhalfmann8861 29 дней назад

This is why I'm on team "don't stop your watch". I'd rather have a bad split than forget to the start the watch again and run "undocumented miles". Plus, i figure "The clock's not going to stop for me at aid stations or emergency bathroom breaks. It is what it is 🤷🏻‍♂️" That said, I'm also guilty of telling myself pace doesn't matter on long runs and then thinking about my pace the whole run, which might be why you stopped your watch in the first place?

@LuisBecerra79 Месяц назад

I don’t know why, but i was waiting for some ideas for the next parody movie to be mentioned 🙈🤷🏻‍♂️😁. But I’ll take all this running fast chat also 👍🏼.

@MidLifeRunner 29 дней назад

I guess 🙄 😂 one step closer to a insta360 Luis! Then we can talk about parody ideas during my 5-10k races

@jongbahoyjr Месяц назад

Just curious, what audio book app do you use? Thanks, love the videos.

@MidLifeRunner 29 дней назад

Thank you! I use audible. My wife uses it more than I do, that’s for sure. I occasionally get a running book on it with her credits 😂

@therapygrind 29 дней назад

Not to be a downer but that last stats I've seen say 3% of the drivers on the road at any given time are impaired (alcohol/drugs). Just under 10% of accidents that happen between 9am - noon involve a drunk driver. I wear a reflective vest of some kind at all times, no exceptions. If it's dark I include a headlight in front & back strapped on. A dark singlet like that with some of the shadows I see in this video & earbuds? No way....

@MidLifeRunner 29 дней назад

@@therapygrind great looking out 🙌🏼 when my wife reads this, I will be sent to the park greenways with no traffic. You may have just saved a life

@tiff7805 29 дней назад

I literally had anxiety watching this video because of the cars and I know you’re fine because I watched you edit it 😡 do what this man says or I burn your shoes. Greenways only for you.

@Joe_Souza Месяц назад

For those long runs, I always use auto pause I don’t forget to start my GPS again.

@tgibridays Месяц назад

I just never pause. If it's just a long slow run, the pace doesn't matter to me. Haha

@MidLifeRunner 29 дней назад

Brilliant ! I always forget this option exists

@MidLifeRunner 29 дней назад

Need to get on tgiBri level .

@ricHCarboCarbea 20 дней назад

Hey bro ... is the lack of sugar my friend... when you are underfueled the brain (which is the organ that demands more sugar) starts playing mind games. 10 to 15 carbs per kilo bodyweight that what i strive for. Also 3000 calories dialy.

@MidLifeRunner 19 дней назад

@@ricHCarboCarbea I carb loaded before today’s 18. I took Skratch high carb (400 Cals) along with a couple of GUs and I ate before the run. A WORLD of difference. I felt strong the entire run and sharp today

@ricHCarboCarbea 19 дней назад

@@MidLifeRunneri bet you did. Keep it up.

@InfiniteQuest86 29 дней назад

Haha, this is me on every long run and I'm not even filming.

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

glad we footage of a brain melting on a long run. glad I am not the only one

@eoincasey5461 29 дней назад

What's the name of the Garmin connect race time prediction you mentioned?

@MidLifeRunner 29 дней назад

On Connect IQ - search for the app “Tanda training value” - it’s a data field that gives you a rolling marathon prediction time

@eoincasey5461 29 дней назад

@@MidLifeRunner Thanks! 👍

@joshuaxruns Месяц назад

I just film and I go 😂

@MidLifeRunner 29 дней назад

The truth about how they make RU-vid videos 😂

@jameschaves5723 29 дней назад

Was this video “tongue and cheek”?

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

This was me getting roasted by the sun for two hours. My brain was fried. haha

@sschwen8050 28 дней назад

That is WAY too hot for a long run! Bordering on dangerous for me.

@MidLifeRunner 27 дней назад

From now on, I am waking up at 5am and starting the run before 0600 no matter what. I can't imagine this run with faster paces built in. I need to start earlier for sure!

@sschwen8050 27 дней назад

@@MidLifeRunner where are you at?

@Maim133 Месяц назад

You're talking like it is easy, but your Easy is only like 30 seconds off your marathon, which seems crazy. Marathon for me is 7:10. Easy is 8:55. I can probably run faster in zone 2, but turn off the brain, default no effort speed has never gotten faster for me in a few years of training. Did your Easy come down without noticing or are you pushing to see what's possible in zone 2?

@MidLifeRunner Месяц назад

That’s a good difference! I think they say easy pace should be about 90-120 seconds slower a mile than MP. My zone 2 HR cap is 147 but I try to land around 140-141, even if it slows me down on most my easy days. I also have zone 1 low zone 2 days at 129-130bpm, especially after hard workouts or long run days. My easy pace has come down. For the Houston marathon, pushing the easy pace was 8:00 , most days were 8:15-8:30, recovery days were 9:00. I think the speed block the last 4 1/2 months has dropped my easy pace by 30 seconds at the same efforts, therefore the target of my marathon has to shift also from a sub 3 more toward a sub 2:50 based on those paces. The solution for me is to run by effort. The HR will reflect it and the pace will be whatever it will be. I can look back at previous marathons run well to get a good gauge of where the HR should be but I also know MP effort pretty well . Once the marathon training starts at the end of this week, I will have a better idea of what I’m capable of running :)

@jameschaves5723 29 дней назад

@@MidLifeRunneryour goal is now sub 2:50?