Getting gubbed, restricted or banned by bookies, casinos etc. happens to all systematic / successful bettors sooner or later. But can you do anything about it? Find out here! Part 2 here: • The ONLY Solution to G...
THIS. This is the logical conclusion. Thank you. I've spent a week looking into this heavily and absorbing approaches and viewpoints from various RU-vidrs. I'd even started to build myself a system for "priming" accounts to influence the risk level assignment on new accounts before getting going. But actually, you're totally right. You're not going to beat them so simply exploit it fast and hard and then move on. Job done.
For me that's the best solution, except for the actual solution (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-19uEkIdMRvc.html) but I'm not sharing that publicly right now. If you know, you know!
I am gubbed not on sportsbook, but in gaming promotion as I seldom sit and play, except on a few low stake live casino bonus. Any chance of getting ungubbed? Play as normal?
I haven’t even added money on my account yet & I’m already restricted.I tried to pay with Apple Pay but, it started tripping, & all I’ve been doing is watching RU-vid tutorials.
I only stake 40£-90£ I’ve never staked anything above 90£. Ofcourse every month is different but on average my month profit is usaully around 200£/400£. I don’t do arbitrage betting or +EV I tend to bet on spreads ofcourse im looking for some value and good odds on my bets I use 3 different bookies 2 get the best odds but i still wouldn’t class it as +EV the way I bet, it’s more just deeply researched picks. but my question is do u think I could stay under the radar for a long time as I’m not taking large amounts from the bookies ?
Don't think amount matters, any systematic betting activity will be spotted eventually. I can't say how long that will take, all bookies are different, hence my motto is make money and move on. You must do what you feel comfortable with.
I understand your rationale of "just take the profit and move on". But you'll run out of books eventually, and it still ticks me off that the bookies are allowed to do this. Most bettors are going to lose money... the books make plenty of money off of those folks. An ethical business model would be that the small fraction of winning bettors would constitute part of the "cost of doing business" for the bookmaker. It should either be regulated to prevent them from dropping people like you just for being good, or if not, there should be more pushback from bettors against the books that do this. Videos like this one... so that new potential customers learn up front that they will either lose or get banned! I'm thinking the sports betting industry wouldn't be so successful right now if that message got promoted more. (BTW, have you been banned by Pinnacle? I understand they are supposed to be more open to winners, but I am wondering if that's true or not...)
Don't necessarily have to run out of bookies to bet with, as touched on in these vids: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-19uEkIdMRvc.html, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pdfqFfKdvv4.html. Bookies will never be ethical, best we can do is continue to beat them!
Getting grubbed is only main problem for bettors that can make consistent profit, I've been looking for solution to this problem but I didn't find one yet, maybe it doesn't exist or its too complicated.
Use friends and family you trust. Just ensure they don’t actually live with you and have relevant ID and proof of address. I’ve been going through Manchester for years. Lol
I agree you should take what you can from a bookie & move on. However, there are deffinately books that you can get away with more of one thing than another, they all seem to have different things they tollerate longer than others. For example, coral & ladbrokes won't let you boost midweek hourse racing for more than a few days, whereas unibet are fairly tolerant. 365 accounts can go years on 2ups in some cases but your lucky to get a month going after EPs in the same way. It would be useful to have a resource where this is all laid out. I'm figuring it out as I go along but I'll have no accounts left by the time I've cracked it 😂
There are so many personal variables that I don't think one person's data would be particularly useful to all. For me it's not worth the hassle, I just rinse and repeat, since I have the solution to gubbing anyway!
I can't comment on the policy of every bookmaker. Don't leave money in the accounts to be frozen in the first place. Make your money, withdraw in, repeat.
I can't comment on every company policy, but generally they may refuse to pay out if you break terms. Should get your deposits back but even that can be troublesome. Most people withdraw regularly to avoid funds getting 'trapped'.
@@smartmoneyguy If you are using mobile internet the vpn isn’t static. It changes every time you change website. A tip i have if you’re an iPhone user is go to settings > safari > clear history and website data. This is by fair the best method to disguise yourself. You could even do it every time you log out of your bookies account so they can never track you. Maybe add this to your next video. : )
Impossible to say but the whole point of this video (and part 2 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-19uEkIdMRvc.html) is to explore a solution.
Depends what you get banned for. Bookies reserve the right to 'freeze' your account if they think something dodgy is going on. They can't take away your deposits but if you're worried about profits just withdraw them frequently.
Sure, I just take the best bets, wherever I can get 'em. Sometimes that's in multiple places. They will all cotton on eventually though. See Part 2 video for more.
If your account gets locked so do the funds inside it and you will have a battle to access them. Smart thing to do is withdraw your winnings and deposit again when you want to make a bet.
@@smartmoneyguy thanks for you reply, really appreciate it, I also wanted to ask, I’ve put in around 200 and lost and won many bets over the last month but I now see myself on around 1100, without matched betting or doing arbitrary bets. Can they still ban me? Would they have any grounds to do so? Thanks
@@vkjaiswal9822 I can't answer that for you. Comply with their demands if you feel they are legitimate and worth doing to retrieve the funds. Otherwise, learn your lesson. That's all I can say.
@@bullythebooks This guys have software that can detect similar betting patterns and at the slightest doubt your account is blocked and you will need verification and that's it you will never be able to withdraw any money in the account so I don't see any need to open any account
I've not had funds withheld. Not something you really need to worry about if you just get gubbed / restricted. If you get permanently banned for something major they might freeze funds depending on the bookie, but again, I don't think it's something you need to worry about.
So basically I had my account restricted so can’t log in but I still have funds in my account but this has been going on for 5 weeks now but I’ve also been a loyal customer for like over 10 years so I’m confused please help
Don't you completely solve the problem by just going to the track in person? The bets are anonymous, at least in the states. Or you can just pay people to place all the bets for you. How is the bookie going to stop you?
Sure, just go to every track, for every event, every day, in person 😄 Can work with someone else but it will still happen to them as well. Got another video on this coming soon.
@@smartmoneyguy I mean it's guaranteed money. It'd be worth setting up a network of people so bets can be placed at every track. And you could pool your money for bigger profits. Which means there are for sure groups doing this already.
@@eddiebrock8154 Sure, you can try doing all that and getting to the front of the queue before the odds change. I prefer the ease of doing it online and accept what comes with it. I'll have another vid soon, which I think you'll be very interested in.
Exchanges support matched betting to some extent - they want you to lay selections on their sites because they profit from commission whether you win or lose. Companies like Matchbook are even active on matched betting forums, creating markets for us and encouraging people to take part. It's not impossible to get pulled up if you're doing something really dodgy, but they're not like the bookies in this respect, so I wouldn't worry about it.
@@waritthornkaewmuang4608 bookies also don’t bear risk when you gamble against them unless you’re getting better value than SP. they sell off all bets.
