Getting Started with Headshot 2.0 | Headshot 2.0 Plug-in Tutorial 

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Your points are solid. YET! The issue with Reallusion products is the incomprehensible amounts of shortcomings that never get adressed in any "tutorial" or featurette. Headshot 1 was an abysmal product by any standard, really. Like having to re-align your viewport to your reference image every.single.time you change perspective in the slightest way - which is quite the necessary thing, rotating around your mesh to see what's what. Afaik there's still no quad or even dual view. The texture projection methods in HS sucked beyond belief. It's such an unripe mess of a product that only looks good in demos. So instead of upping their game and fixing the tons of workflow problems the people have been having, they release a "new" version that presumably still (!) suffers from the same lackluster approach. People are rightfully upset about this nonsense.

@@thenout Yeah, I wasn't wholly satisfied with Headshot 1. Overall I look at Reallusion's portfolio of products and how vastly easier it makes pipeline work, and how less efficient (and borderline impossible) it would be for me without them. I also wholly appreciate that they aren't subscription-based. For reference, I've bought 2 plugins of theirs that I didn't "adore" -- one being Headshot 1, and the other being the iRay renderer. The latter actually works just fine (and looks great), but I wasn't finding it as fast or friendly as other GPU renderers. These days if I need ultra-quality stills, I typically use the Path Tracer in Unreal -- but that didn't exist when the iRay plugin was released. Other GPU renderers have their own oddities as well (Octane, Redshift)...and are sadly subscription based now. :( As far as Headshot 1, well...I've seen users post some AMAZING things that they've done with it. It requires some time after the initial model to look good (SkinGen helps a lot) -- but that's always true of software...there's levels to gaining quality! That I hadn't taken the time to get there...well, that's on me. ;)

I wholeheartedly agree that it's worth the extra price. I just wish Reallusion were a little more transparent about their pricing. Nowhere in their videos do they say this is basically a new product rather than an update. In the description there's a link to the "free download", heavily implying it's free. And when I open Character Creator, there's a fairly large update, which you could be forgiven for thinking is Headshot 2. Great products, and well worth what they're charging. But boy is the cost of everything a nightmare to navigate.

@@JamieDunbar Yeah, I had actually thought to myself, "You know...they could have likely avoided people being upset if they hadn't called it Headshot 2.0 and broke the 'new' features out into a new product," but then I immediately afterward thought to myself, "...but, it makes 100% sense to call it Headshot 2.0 -- it'd be confusing to have another head-based plugin called something else...." Since we all see new features added to products pretty often for other companies, for branding purposes it makes sense to iterate. I hadn't run into the confusion on the upgrade price (I had seen the announcement in my email), but I can understand how that would be odd to run into.

@@johnb4467 Yeah, Reallusion stuff does have a lot going for it. I still use CC4/iclone every one in a while for some of their features. Nevertheless, I have run into so many workflow issues which eventually cost me more time than just doing it "the old way" directly in Blender. My biggest quarrel is not only how opaque their sale structure is, but that their "tutorials" are oftentimes willfully misleading. It's not that their ways won't work, but essential steps in the workflow are just left out. For example, I had a scene where I had a character sit down on a swivel chair, as she sits the chair spins around, and she types something on a keyboard. I used mocap data as a starting point, which had to be adjusted for hand placement etc. Only after a full day of fumbling around I had to acknowledge that there's just some steps you cannot go back to and re-iterate. This renders the whole thing super unflexible, which is a nightmare when a client demands "just a bit of extra animation here... and maybe slower..." etc. This truthfully blew my mind! Their featurettes are always straight forward gigs, but it's never discussed what's under the hood and why and when certain functions do have limitations. In regards to HS1, for all the pomp how great and straight forward it is etc, I was blown away again, for several reasons. Biggest no-no: There's no reference photo side view projection, which leaves the user to manually paint masks and blend the photo projection with some skin shader (I do own SkinGen). I'm not a beginner in 3D, i can do that no problem, but it's a total nightmare to do via CC. Also i cannot store my views, i.e. front view/side view etc with the reference overlay positioned in place as well. So you work on the sides, you need to double check how it looks from the front, go back to the side... and you have to re-align the overlay. This is such a tedious bullshit "workflow", it left me literally speechless. From what I gather, Reallusion makes software that look amazingly intuitive on the front, but once you actively work with it in a somewhat professional manner, the whole thing falls apart. And it's not that I haven't spent enormous amounts of time learning the software. I mean, i paid good bucks for practically their entire product line. Now i'm left with products that are good enough for one or two things, but as a main pipeline / character tool, the whole thing is just ludicrous. Nevertheless, I'm aware there's people out there who find ways to work with it well enough and produce respectable results. I guess i'm expecting it to cater to advanced 3D artists as well. I mean: there's not even a quad view. In a character modeller!! That fact alone keeps blowing my mind...

Typical Reallusion quality, I feel you man. Looks bombastic in trailers, but for professional workflows... naah.

also you can upgrade iclone g3 g5 g6 in iclone to come to cc3pus with this headshot just did a test

No, because these tools/features didn't exist before so you're not buying "again".

@@SkintSNIPER262 No I completely understand now. No big deal. I already bought it.

Yeah they are tripping asking us to pay for an update to addon plugin. I'm pulling the plug here, I don't want to support practices like this when we have Blender and other amazing 3D software options. (which offer more free and paid character generators too)

@@sierrafoxtrot1331 It's not an "update". It's a completely different tool. Some of you guys are spoiled with Blender and think everything should be free. Blender doesn't offer anything that Realillusion is doing. If you want to spend months or years creating characters for a project, be my guest.

@@sierrafoxtrot1331 the crazy part is headshot two doesn’t even do what it says. There are no full body scans available and headshot 1 creates way better characters. I bought a scanner and everything. I’m back to using the old version. Less work and better results.

Yep they want us to pay again, what a rip smh. This is the final straw for me they are just trying to bleed us dry, they must think we wipe our butts with cash lol.

$99 bucks.

i feel the same way. at first when I saw this I was amazed, then quickly realized it didn't make my HS1 experience better. if Kai doesn't make a deeper tutorial or show us we can create Digital Double easier then I'm Not Buying it...even though I want it lol

doesn't Mesh to Metahuman basically do the same thing?

Yes, we need third party apps to scan the model and then import them into CC.

You need to multi-select the mesh in the Scene panel and then go to the Modify panel to find the Merge Mesh button and click it to merge it into one mesh.

They already have that. Youc an use your iphone to record facial animations. Unreal Engine copied this from Iclone

@@TheLuisberg the latest one with ue5.2 is insane, are you saying that iclone + livelink with the ue plugin is just as good? i haven't tried it yet cause I need to get a cheap iphone, but I do own the plugin. just want to know where I need to spend most of my time, as i am doing a project with a lot of up close facial/dialogue.

Facts Reallusion has come a long way.

You must be new. There is a reason for the hate.

@@Cola-42 no I’ve been using their software for a long time. Though this new release was needed. I know that headshot 2.1 (the free upgrade)would fix most of the concerns. But it’s a business First. In order to have these updates you need money.

Facts! Like honestly how do people expect reallusion to keep going? By paying once and getting everything for free? That’s not the way it goes. By giving us free updates everytime they are losing money. They need to make a living too. I’m happy about this! While I can’t get it right a way, when I can I’m snagging this and I’m going to continue to support reallusion every step of the way. IF you hate realllusion people then just don’t buy from them. Stick to blender, it’s a wonder product and it’s free. 😅

​@hcameron90 First, I wasn't talking to you as I've never tagged you. Second, a long time is subjective. How many years is that? Did you not notice what was going on with Reallusion during that time? I agree with you regarding this particular update, but that is usually not the case, and thus the hate exists. They usually don't add any new useful features for free and basically do bug fixes. They create features, but don't add them to their softwares until a big paid update. It's called the Korean grinder for a reason. They also continue to discountinue paid products, the latest being Iray is now officially discountinued with lots of features that needed fixing. Reallusion should not be compared with the likes of Daz and should be thought of as a software for professionals who need it for particular things. It is not a software for hobbyists, not with those prices. If you can live with that, you'll be good. As you continue to pay for Reallusion products, you'll understand what I'm saying. I have paid more than $7,000 over the years for their products. This is easily equivalent to the top products used by professionals.

Just be aware when they decide to do headshot v3 you'll probably have to pay for it for a 3rd time :(

​@@JumboTTVI'm glad that you think they work for charity. Do programmers not get paid? Because I'm pretty sure they're a business with staff, staff that do the work to get these features implemented.

​@@JumboTTVAlso, your argument is flawed. They do not owe you these features. When you bought Headshot v1, you did not buy it with the hopes of getting these features implemented. It's basically a new tool now, either use and buy it for convenience, or learn how to do it with existing tools. This IS possible without Headshot v2, you just want it for convenience.

better to use other software going forward , headshot was shit and this should have being a free upgrade

​@@erniemey5432Why though? It's a complete rewrite. 😂 The first one still functions as normal? I don't get why everyone is getting so upset?

You can report the issue of the model crashing when imported into C4D to RL's feedback tracker.

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Yeah they are tripping asking us to pay for an update to addon plugin. I'm pulling the plug here, I don't want to support practices like this when we have Blender and other amazing 3D software options.

So you can use all the iClone features (puppets, morphs, lip syncing, wrinkles, etc.) that depend on it being a CC3+ character.

There isnt seem to be, this is reallusion

@@ThePrapanch123 Yep, unfortunately I know their typical approach all too well. But still good to call them out when they do this, because it is pretty shitty.

it's $99 for CC/HS1 users. simply login to your member account to get the upgrade

As the original model is a high-poly model or has normal maps, when generating the character, it will automatically bake new normal maps. You can find them in the Material panel. Specular and Utility maps are also generated automatically. If needed, you can find and edit them in the Material panel.

@@aeddychau5690 In case of 3D Scan Store or VFace assets, how would you use the original textures instead of the automatically generated ones? The Headshot-generated model has a different UV layout.

Perhaps you can send the finished character and 3D Scan Store/VFace models to ZBrush and then project these textures.@@Utsab_Giri

@@Utsab_Giri I also want to know this. As usual, ZERO response from Reallusion.

nope. it’s $99 for HS1 owners. $199 for new buyers.

@@Blood-PawWerewolf OK thank you! At least we get a discount if own HS1. Thanks again!

@@Blood-PawWerewolf that is ridiculoous. As much as we have paid for this software, the fact that I paid for HS 1 and now I have to rebuy it? I am getting really tired of this....

​@@gryphonseggYou're not rebuying anything. These features are new. You still own Headshot v1. Please... Think logically. You can't rebuy something that you don't have.

@@gryphonsegg hey, I think $99 is reasonable. we want them to keep making great software, and they can't rest on their laurels for income.

meh...I gave up on that ship coming in a year ago. Iclone render sucks, and Iray render is waaay too slow. I just forced myself to learn Unreal Engine 5 cinematics. Glad I did. With DLSS/DLSA rendering, you get Blender eevee results in real time. I am on a 2080ti and I am rendering 4k at almost real time. What used to take an hour to render with movie render cue in Unreal now takes 4 minutes or less. I would give up on Iclone render if I were you and just switch to unreal. Use Iclone for the animation, CC4 for building the character, and let unreal do the rest. Hair physics also works great in DLSS/DLSA render mode.

It's fair because you got what you paid for. Headshot v1 isn't going to miraculously dissappear. If you want the new features for convenience (all these things can be done outside of CC) buy it. Otherwise, do not complain, you got what you paid for, a tool that uses AI and a photograph to make a character. This is completely different and last time I checked, developers also have to eat.

@@ShortyBlast they sure do. those vending machine late night snacks ain't gonna pay for themselves.

@@valiantshadow89 I like it better than the subscription model. And at least you are getting something way better for half price.

@@ShortyBlast the consensus in these comments are that you're wrong and people feel disenfranchised. regardless if that was the point, it is the perception and perception is king.

@@jumpieva I'm not wrong, it's just that all of you guys are complaining but not understanding. Again, the programmers working on these plugins shouldn't get paid right? Sitting weeks and weeks, working on a plugin to release it as a free update? No logic.

It could. There are iPhone apps that allow you to scan objects with your phone. You could use this for that. I think KIRI offers some free scans. That might be higher quality than headshot 1. But if headshot 1 works for you, you may want to stick with that.

@@jeremythompson1905 Thanks for the reply.

What? I have just recently got these products. They make you pay for upgrading from cc3 to 4?

@@armondtanz as a company I compare them to EA Sports, I haven't seen them trying to rainbow us yet. The just want the green xD

@@JumboTTV what have i gotten myself into?

They’re getting worse and worse with the way they treat loyal customers

​@@armondtanzYou pay $99 if you own Headshot... That's what I saw.

yeah, that's what I wanna know

We'll never find that out from their little sale featurettes around here...

It seems that there hasn't been any improvement.