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Getting the 4.3 Chevy Van Engine Together: The Movie! 

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In this movie, which is probably better than most of the stuff at the movie theaters this week, we are putting the Van back together to include installing the camshaft, lifters, cylinder heads, timing chains, updating the rocker arm trunnions and getting it running. @AdeptApe on Venmo or AdeptApe@yahoo.com on PayPal for donations, thank you so much for supporting the channel!
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@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
The Van saga is finally done. Did you enjoy the change of content? It will be back to Diesel Engines after this for hopefully a long time. @AdeptApe on Venmo or AdeptApe@yahoo.com on PayPal for donations, thank you so much for supporting the channel! Amazon Affiliate Links to recommended tools: Fuel Pressure Gauge, Compucheck 0-300 psi: amzn.to/3YeBldu Airlift Cooling System Vacuum Filling System: amzn.to/3D9AlPu Radiator Pressure Tester Kit: amzn.to/3QGBumn Milwaukee 3/8" Right Angle Impact Wrench: amzn.to/3D2CvAk Adjustable Height Parts Tray 100 lbs: amzn.to/3CBusZB Engine Oil and Fuel Dye UV: amzn.to/3z34zkv UV Professional Grade Light: amzn.to/3gzxPc0
@jasonstinson1767
@jasonstinson1767 Месяц назад
Awesome seeing your approach to more common light duty applications. Hopefully common = relatable to a new demographic for you.
@stevehovey70
@stevehovey70 Месяц назад
You bought all the right parts. Glad to see you took all my advice. when you get that far into the motor... the money spent is well worth preventing future issues. Let us know though... on the affected cylinder.. were the trunions falling apart on those rockers for the failed cam lobe?
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable Месяц назад
@@stevehovey70cam failed because the high pressure fuel pump adds extra stresses to that area
@adco
@adco Месяц назад
I thought after this project you might be building ships in bottle. 😉
@goutvols103
@goutvols103 Месяц назад
One (1) of your best videos Josh. Just a rough guess, if someone would have brought that van into a shop, what would have been the rough estimate on the final bill?
@needsaride15126
@needsaride15126 Месяц назад
Josh. People don't mind hour long videos like this when they are in depth and instructive. Your video was in-depth and informative. WINNER. Someone will see what you did with the rockers and other situations and it will help them immensely. Thank you for sharing this video and congratulations on successfully getting your van up and running again. Be careful be safe and safe travels ahead.
@rcpilot1565
@rcpilot1565 Месяц назад
Josh! I’ve been following you for at least 4yrs. That screaming goat cracks me up every time.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable Месяц назад
That’s because he’s the goat
@peterhand4418
@peterhand4418 Месяц назад
Too be a mechanic you need the patience of a saint .
@somebodyelse836
@somebodyelse836 Месяц назад
Chicken bones, tea leafs and a ouija board help as well
@needsaride15126
@needsaride15126 Месяц назад
or torches and a sledgehammer.
@someguy4476
@someguy4476 Месяц назад
Truck mechanic doing an in frame on a van. LOL!
@craigadair128
@craigadair128 Месяц назад
You're definitely a trooper Most people would have hauled it to the junkyard.
@chainarmor448
@chainarmor448 Месяц назад
Well he’s a mechanic. Why would he do that
@craigadair128
@craigadair128 Месяц назад
@@chainarmor448 I guess it makes good content for the channel if nothing else
@rockwithme5346
@rockwithme5346 Месяц назад
​@craigadair128 most people wouldnt have cared about the noise that sent him down this road.
@derrickpettit86
@derrickpettit86 Месяц назад
Most people don't have the money to buy all the parts an fix it them selves or pay a mechanic, he's got the knowledge an the van is in great shape, an now it will run for years
@summerforever6736
@summerforever6736 Месяц назад
Would have been. WASTE take it to the junkjard
@Rx7man
@Rx7man Месяц назад
I missed the other videos.. thanks for the tips on figuring out that Cat 325 exacavator hard start... she starts like a charm now.. it took 4 mechanics 4 years and a entire parts cannon thrown at it.. just to be remote oil filter O rings that were leaking down the lube oil and starving the HPOP on a cold start
@at_3831
@at_3831 Месяц назад
Thank you for posting this I will save it for future use
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Glad you found it, what a hard one to find.
@gabe1254
@gabe1254 Месяц назад
@Rx7man good stuff 👍
@somebodyelse836
@somebodyelse836 Месяц назад
CB634 rollers had the same problem
@raymondbradley6788
@raymondbradley6788 Месяц назад
Good job Josh. I admire your patience that look like a big pita.👍👍👍
@jeriwollmann7366
@jeriwollmann7366 Месяц назад
So great to watch Josh. I enjoyed all the minutes. Pretty great to learn new with you. Will be awesome to see van on road hearing the engine roar. Lots of love man. Cheers Josh. 🔧🔩👊👍💪❤
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Thanks Jeri
@OpaqueWindow
@OpaqueWindow Месяц назад
Ahhh!!! kt3406 and you on the same day. This is a good birthday that isn't mine. But I'm enjoying it as such.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
I thought mine was a long video, his is over 2 hours!
@OpaqueWindow
@OpaqueWindow Месяц назад
​@@AdeptApeI'm one who enjoys those long videos of people who know what they're doing. And you always put such good detail into everything!
@johnwaby4321
@johnwaby4321 Месяц назад
Well you had to wait for all your new parts .Well worth the wait . All back together and up and running . I bet you are well pleased now . Well done 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Ratkill9000
@Ratkill9000 Месяц назад
I love it when a plan comes together.
@giggiddy
@giggiddy Месяц назад
Been waiting with baited breath for the conclusion hoping it would be long and detailed. You did not disappoint! Thank you sir. LOVE your LONG vIdeos!!!
@johnwesner3935
@johnwesner3935 Месяц назад
Hey Josh, why is it that a fellow mechanic finds humor in anothers struggles.😅 Been in the same situation. Well I i guess you can give your wife back her car . Glad you got it back together. Thanks
@TheTulerie
@TheTulerie Месяц назад
We all have been there at least once & if you haven't yet, just give it time. So what else can you do, other than offer to help if you can & just laugh knowing that might be you 😂
@justinyates4467
@justinyates4467 Месяц назад
Because we got messed with when we started lol
@lnpipeline3306
@lnpipeline3306 Месяц назад
@@TheTulerie I just changed a fan clutch on a Ram 3500, and poked a hole in the radiator while trying to get it out. You probably would have had a good laugh at the conniption fit that I threw.
@TheTulerie
@TheTulerie Месяц назад
@@lnpipeline3306 I screwed up a brand new aluminum radiator that I was putting in my f250 by doing exactly that. Not a fun time lol Now I'll cover it with cardboard until I get everything put together
@tetedur377
@tetedur377 Месяц назад
So Josh, in my nearly 30 years as a mechanic, I did a couple of vans similar to that, only older. I probably did more than that, but at least a couple where there were heads and stuff coming off. After that, the grill came off, the radiator and all the things in order to have relatively unimpeded access to the engine. If I didn't mention it: I hated working on vans, and always charged extra whenever I had a say in the pricing. I told more than one customer: don't like the price, do it yourself. Strange, but they never did.
@gutsngorrrr
@gutsngorrrr Месяц назад
Congratulations on getting this van finally fixed. Hope it now gives you a few years of fault free service, so you can get back to your normal work.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Getting 23 miles per gallon now, just filled up. Pretty happy with it 😁
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 Месяц назад
Considering that it’s the first Chevy work van you’ve tangled with you did a great job 👍
@mayhemsmaster5050
@mayhemsmaster5050 Месяц назад
Brian Tooley Racing products are fantastic. They are American made, made by Americans! I didnt realize that they made parts for everday production vehicles. I use there parts for a vintage classic and show car... its a bit challenging finding certain oem parts for my baby. I truly enjoy your longer videos, all of them actually. Thank you for anotjer wonderful video.🙏💜
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
I was pretty impressed with it, I wish they made a V6 kit, I had to use the V8 kit so I have a few extras now.
@johngibson3837
@johngibson3837 Месяц назад
​@@AdeptApeat roughly 10 bux each that's very good value especially compared to the GM o-rings
@larrytalley117
@larrytalley117 Месяц назад
Oh boy a movie! Let me get my popcorn 🍿
@imtimrich
@imtimrich Месяц назад
Good oil pressure 🎉 great job 👍🇺🇸
@stevenlatham4397
@stevenlatham4397 Месяц назад
I loved the longer videos. Fantastic series.
@funkacalafragilisticexplod5236
@funkacalafragilisticexplod5236 Месяц назад
Working on anything smaller that 7 liters feels like I’m fixing a Swiss watch
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 Месяц назад
Excellent work, and some people think mechanics just unbolt and bolt stuff together with power tools. Thanks for sharing.
@blackmarkettrucking5821
@blackmarkettrucking5821 Месяц назад
Now that was some good quality documentive style television right there boy i tell ya
@michaeltrinkle4197
@michaeltrinkle4197 Месяц назад
Thank You Sir for another good video.a real mechanic will step out of his normal work and do as you have done.fixing problems no matter what and not just because it's your problem.awsome details and explaining.
@giggiddy
@giggiddy Месяц назад
That cam looks gorgeous for some reason. Looks flawless
@brettwalkom948
@brettwalkom948 Месяц назад
Probably because it's new
@user-uw9wl6my3s
@user-uw9wl6my3s Месяц назад
Well done Josh very much enjoyed watching you working on your van love watching you working on all vehicles. Best wishes Mikey Edinburgh
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat Месяц назад
You have more patience than me! I usually go until there’s nothing but growls and animal noises coming out of me then I know it’s time to stop for awhile and go have a doobie! 🤣
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Well it took me about a week to get it back together, I would get frustrated or find I was missing a part and would stop for the day. Kept my sanity though.
@Dinoxt12
@Dinoxt12 Месяц назад
Lot of Work, for sure. Well Done.
@EddieTheGrouch
@EddieTheGrouch Месяц назад
Stiff lifters in the carrier for ease of assembly on the line. Not stiff enough to hinder function and the softer material will simple wear into spec.
@steveg8337
@steveg8337 Месяц назад
I believe your about the only mechanic on you tube that uses a torque wrench religiously.
@IHVA-ir9gp
@IHVA-ir9gp Месяц назад
Nice job. I really enjoyed the whole series especially how relatively calm you stay when dealing with the challenges of todays engines. I always encourage my son, who is completing his apprenticeship with Disney as a diesel/attractions mechanic, to watch your videos. Always learning. Keep them coming and again nice job.
@summerforever6736
@summerforever6736 Месяц назад
Funny ending for sure!! Comedian!!!
@michaeldunagan8268
@michaeldunagan8268 Месяц назад
Congratulations! I always like watching you working. I learn so much from you. I am my own motorcycle, car, van, and semi-truck mechanics mostly due to financial reasons. I have a 1997 Chevrolet 1599 5.7L I must change intake gaskets on at minimum to get rid of a vacuum and coolant leak.
@paulswank2695
@paulswank2695 Месяц назад
I love the Title Josh... hope it's Epic... sitting down to watch it now!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Hope you like it. I think it's pretty entertaining.
@jefftheaussie2225
@jefftheaussie2225 Месяц назад
I watched it all Josh, good job. Glad I didn’t have to do it. I just did the timing belt on my Landcruiser and the water pump while I was there as well. It took a lot longer than I thought it would too. Your motor is high mileage but it looked nice and clean inside, it probably didn’t do a lot of cold starts and not much short running which is what they like. It will go forever now. Jeff
@adambauman8044
@adambauman8044 Месяц назад
I like watching you work on all kinds of stuff. I work on a variety of stuff too. I'm glad you're not one of those guys with the attitude "I'm a diesel tech so I only work on diesel engines"
@Dave_9547
@Dave_9547 Месяц назад
Just a thought, seeing how the old cam gear fit, but it was probably long gone. Always like to watch your skills and narrative.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
It was the same. Still have the cam sitting right here
@paulpatenaude3208
@paulpatenaude3208 Месяц назад
Excellent workmanship, congratulations on your new truck and business
@jordantobins681
@jordantobins681 Месяц назад
This must seem so small after working on the big CAT diesels. Great job working your way through each step. Goes to show that a great tech can figure anything out!
@dozerman53111
@dozerman53111 Месяц назад
Amazing job Josh. Not an easy job in frame. Sounds good also. I was right there with you brother !
@1320pass
@1320pass Месяц назад
Saved yourself thousands man. Good ol resourcefulness. Complicated little booger tho. Wow😮
@blackmarkettrucking5821
@blackmarkettrucking5821 Месяц назад
Nice movie
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Get the popcorn.
@zayin123
@zayin123 Месяц назад
Very well done Josh.
@billhowe4863
@billhowe4863 Месяц назад
Great job, those vans and diesel pushers are always so clostraphobic
@billdennis2993
@billdennis2993 Месяц назад
Thx AA for an informative and entertaining video with excellent content. Congrats on getten rrr done
@robertpowell2998
@robertpowell2998 Месяц назад
👍 good job. Pat yourself on the back
@jamesbeckwith780
@jamesbeckwith780 Месяц назад
Good video series, I was an auto tech for 30+ yrs things are easier to diagnose now days tougher to work on. How about a short update on how’s the van. Running, leaks, etc..
@371508129
@371508129 Месяц назад
Congratulations on a job well done!!!
@uncle_moose
@uncle_moose Месяц назад
Good job.
@vadmalski
@vadmalski Месяц назад
These nerves of steel yoy have... 👏👏👏
@Joker75113
@Joker75113 Месяц назад
Nice job old boy 😊👍 let the adventures begin.
@trevlanes
@trevlanes Месяц назад
Nice work!!
@LukeLong-oi4uc
@LukeLong-oi4uc Месяц назад
Nice job
@douglasmayherjr.5733
@douglasmayherjr.5733 Месяц назад
Hopefully you get years of service from the van engine. It didn’t look like much fun, especially in the van chassis. Thanks for the Video.
@arthurcitron9774
@arthurcitron9774 Месяц назад
Spot on!👊🏻🇺🇸
@rangervapes571
@rangervapes571 Месяц назад
Hell yeah!! What a saga. So now we want to know exactly how many days it took
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
That's a hard answer. The Van was down for about 20 days, but there was teardown initially, then looking up and waiting on parts for about a week, then about a week of putting the engine together, but that's because I would work on it in the afternoons and wasn't really as motivated as on an engine I'm getting paid to work on.
@snoopdogie187
@snoopdogie187 Месяц назад
I've been working on my E450 V10. I've learned you have to pull the air cleaner out if you want to see the top of the engine. No way around that, you can barely see past the filter housing.
@daveA2024
@daveA2024 Месяц назад
Hi Josh, It tickles me when I see people using these fancy turn gauges to calculate degrees, especially in tight places, use your torque pen to mark the socket at the bolt end and a second mark at the required degrees around the socket from the first, make a mark adjacent to the first socket mark on the component and then tighten until the second mark on the socket reaches the component mark.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
That's what I did with the head bolts and most fasteners. That torque angle meter is the most frustrating tool ever
@daveA2024
@daveA2024 Месяц назад
@@AdeptApe Hi Josh, Greetings from the UK, I ought to have realised that someone as savvy as you would know that old trick, but you were obviously out of your comfort zone and I felt a little sympathy towards you. I am retired now, but I only ever used torque turn gauges when I absolutely had to, I'm not too fond of the things, too much faffing about, too much time wasted, keep up the good work.
@persistentwind
@persistentwind Месяц назад
After watching kt3406e doing an inframe and saying it's the wrong way to do it... I hope this engine lasts you a long time!
@transmitterguy478
@transmitterguy478 Месяц назад
Great job Josh!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
I did and it was the same, must just be the design.
@robpeters5204
@robpeters5204 Месяц назад
You definitely earned that one!!! Let’s get back to heavy engine work!
@brownwrench
@brownwrench Месяц назад
Satisfaction
@jamesbruno5896
@jamesbruno5896 Месяц назад
Nice job brother!
@woody95124
@woody95124 Месяц назад
Good job J...Enjoy ur way.....
@tjlqk3
@tjlqk3 Месяц назад
Glad I'm not the only one that hates GM engineering
@miked9104
@miked9104 Месяц назад
We need a funny car mechanic to review this video 😂😂😂
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 Месяц назад
Start to finish tutorial outstanding video. I love it 👍 PERCEPTIVE, Adept Ape Take care,enjoy your evening with all your family around you ,Adept Ape From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 20:15PM Good Evening
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Thank you Nick for sticking through every style video!
@tomcarrigan902
@tomcarrigan902 Месяц назад
Great job brother
@birdofpoo
@birdofpoo Месяц назад
I work at a Cummins shop and we are a fccc dealer, recently ups has put the v8 version of your engine in their box trucks. Now fccc has a diesel shop doing warranty on Chevy engines. Thanks for some insight into the insides of your engine. I’ve had some struggles with that engine platform to.
@kingjames8283
@kingjames8283 Месяц назад
Well it started, eventually, after the fuel primed. Now I'm waiting for the update video after the 500 mile break-in period to see if it gets any quieter and smoother. These Vortec engines are notorious for being so quiet that it's hard to tell if they are running unlike the GM 8.1L monster truck engine that gets maybe 4 mpg if you're lucky, which is expected for an engine of that size paired with an Allison transmission which can move mountains. The only real downside to the 8.1L is they like oil, lots of oil because they leak like the old 2 cycle Detroit Diesels which would eat up 1-2 gallons per work day. The 8.1L with Allison can be found in all GMC 6500 26'ft trucks at Uhaul.
@dalechapman2649
@dalechapman2649 Месяц назад
1flat or 1 point of the bolt = 60 degrees.
@user-rp3uh4qy5t
@user-rp3uh4qy5t Месяц назад
sacré travail sur ce moteur,félicitations
@davidwells9342
@davidwells9342 Месяц назад
I’m glad you got it fixed now. I hope you’re able to bow back up at work and catch up. Don’t kill yourself, but I know what it’s like having to chase the dollar.
@TORAH-613
@TORAH-613 Месяц назад
you look sooo funny as a diesel mechanic working on a gas engine. this was funny as hell
@kmcca08
@kmcca08 Месяц назад
Great job, definitely not an easy one. Great outcome. Greetings from Ireland 👍
@MatthewNorthern-fy1qz
@MatthewNorthern-fy1qz Месяц назад
I would have replaced that oil pump.
@CTX50
@CTX50 Месяц назад
I was thinking the same thing
@brettwalkom948
@brettwalkom948 Месяц назад
Why the old one works fine
@MatthewNorthern-fy1qz
@MatthewNorthern-fy1qz Месяц назад
​@brettwalkom948 the gm oil pumps not good to reuse
@mikek5298
@mikek5298 Месяц назад
@@MatthewNorthern-fy1qz They are FINE to reuse. Have reused nearly two dozen; never had any problems whatsoever over 125,000+ miles. You do what you want, I’ll do what I want.
@truracer20
@truracer20 Месяц назад
@@mikek5298 yeah oil pumps love eating hardened lifter flakes. Did it, or didn't it? It's not fun going back in if you guess wrong.
@josephbusby4625
@josephbusby4625 Месяц назад
those alignment tools for the oil pump are for the LS7 with a dry sump pump.
@GhettoWagon
@GhettoWagon Месяц назад
Ahh nice showing the bearings in the LS style rocker arms. Never knew you could service those. I should check them on a near 200k mile 5.3
@highspeedrc1734
@highspeedrc1734 Месяц назад
Very nice!!! Good job!
@goldpan12345
@goldpan12345 Месяц назад
Awesome job! Don't have the patience for that anymore.
@kristercarlson2635
@kristercarlson2635 Месяц назад
I think you’re supposed to shim the oil pump drive gear in 3 places with 0.0015” shims to center the gear before you torque the pump body to the block. It may cause premature oil pump failure if you don’t. That’s the way all LS based engines are.
@at_3831
@at_3831 Месяц назад
The feelz of success!!!! Good work
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf Месяц назад
Josh what a fantastic result 👍🏻 Love your videos and this one was awesome 🙌🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat Месяц назад
I get all sweaty crabby when I gotta work on Chevys too 🤣
@salo1808
@salo1808 Месяц назад
My last engine swap at the last shop I worked at, was a ford van chassy box truck. Straight up not a good time
@unwired1281
@unwired1281 Месяц назад
Well done Josh. Hopefully you won’t be back in there for many many miles ‼️
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Me too!!! Drove it about 400 miles since the repair and it's been good, like I said in the video, it ran great, just was making that tapping noise. Glad I did it though, as it would have gotten worse and possibly damaged the block if the cam completely failed.
@CamelGarage
@CamelGarage Месяц назад
Hell yeah a longer style video! It was awesome man!
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat Месяц назад
Hopefully there’s not a sequel to this movie! 🤣 I’d hate to see you have to do this job again, while not getting paid to do it.
@willmarotta4525
@willmarotta4525 Месяц назад
Well, hell. You beat this one.
@Railtech_63.
@Railtech_63. Месяц назад
Great job
@jeremymardlin5381
@jeremymardlin5381 Месяц назад
Josh those alignment guides are really only for reusing a used oil pump. After the pump is used they develop a wear pattern. If it isn't aligned the same way the pump can wear very fast and cause a loss of oil pressure.
@ianatkinson8464
@ianatkinson8464 Месяц назад
😎👍
@giggiddy
@giggiddy Месяц назад
The noise that prompted you to tear the engine down in the first place likely came from the valve train. And that awesom trunion set-up looks super clean, tight and an upgrade from OEM. Love it and should outlast everything else. Thanks for showing the details on that!
@seabrookmx
@seabrookmx Месяц назад
If you watch the prior videos in the series he shows the issue. Dead lifter wiped out a cam lobe.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable Месяц назад
Technically the cam failed from harmonics of the high pressure fuel pump. Which he did not upgrade or change anything about. So the camshaft should last slightly less than it did last time. Who knows maybe this happened from something causing excessive force on the high pressure fuel pump or injectors. The reality is with newer vehicles you are never ‘all set’ Because there’s just no many parts it’s always just barely working exactly how the engineers designed it to be. Which means 40,000 mile warranty. This ain’t a old 😮diesel truck.
@coadybarnum
@coadybarnum Месяц назад
Well done Sir
@blackmarkettrucking5821
@blackmarkettrucking5821 Месяц назад
Thanks!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Месяц назад
Thank you so much!
@blackmarkettrucking5821
@blackmarkettrucking5821 Месяц назад
@@AdeptApe it's hard out here for a wrench pimp, ya heard me!!
@timf6916
@timf6916 Месяц назад
Good job
@truckladders4104
@truckladders4104 Месяц назад
Two washers or straps the OD of the seal with a center bolt to draw them together Washers|discs would be preferred for even pull light assembly greas on outer edge of seal would help Dont want that seal to leak!
@denniskennedy6579
@denniskennedy6579 Месяц назад
Very interesting to see a Basic Diesel mechanic working on a Gas vehicle. It's so frustrating for me as a small engine mechanic working on my own Modern vehicles.
@edt689
@edt689 Месяц назад
If I were you, I think it would probably be the same price or just a tad more if you just get the reman engine instead of just doing cam and lifters. If you count your hourly labor for doing diesel work instead of working on ur gasser van ,you will be making more money than saving or, if not you may break even. Plus, a good reman is more of a guarantee it will run longer and warranty . Some of the metal shaving could have got into oil ports and possibly got into ur crank and main bearing. Have to consider how much mileage it has as well, and most gas engines need major work after 200k miles. But I admire ur work ethic and ur willing to tackle any job . I know alot heavy diesel mechanic are not willing to touch small gasser especially vans .
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