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GG166: What Is the Future Of Consoles?: A Grinds My Gears Story 

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@GamingGrindhouse
@GamingGrindhouse 3 месяца назад
Thank you Grinders!! Join the VIPS and Subscribe to the Gaming Grindhouse!! Timestamps: Begin 0:00 Start 3:30 Booty Launch Exclusives 5:25 Euro Consoles sales 24:32 PS3 Emulation 38:52 Avowed is SCOPED 45:53 DF Question Perfect Dark: 1:18:00 Broken Windows ARM 1:37:00 GMG Where Are the Consoles in the Future Pachter Interview: 1:54:00 Pachter SMH 2:04:00 Recap 3:10:00
@thejimd
@thejimd 3 месяца назад
Xbox went from "Power your dreams" to "manage your expectations" godddddddamn 😭
@aaronwalsh8469
@aaronwalsh8469 3 месяца назад
Funny talking about ketchup for spaghetti sauce. I used to live in Iceland. One time back in the 80’s I was watching Icelandic news . They were showing some Icelandic family making spaghetti for dinner. They literally poured a bottle of ketchup onto the ground beef for spaghetti sauce. My mom was like wtf.
@TheHatsuma
@TheHatsuma 3 месяца назад
Great GrindHouse. I have so many thoughts to list, so long response incoming. Buckle up. First the PS3 rumor, I'm honestly 50/50. I could see them doing PS3 classics. At the same time, I don't think they would because they’d more realistically remaster or remake certain classics to resell. I definitely agree they need to improve on the ps2/ps1 classics. And They need up frequency of trials for game sales’ second wind. And what’s funny, they can remarket the game like a greatest hits promotion to reignite awareness. As for Avowed, I think it gets delayed. Indi stands a chance because it’s a known IP, but I think this holiday it gets wrecked. Avowed would likely get worse. Just individuals seem uninterested in it. And honestly it looks ruff bruh. The combat looks blah, visuals look blah, and there isn’t enough RPG to overlook those weaknesses. As for EU sales and Hellblade, yeesh and yikes. Microsoft was already impatient with Tango. It appears that not only did Hifi sell better. It seems it scored better, and legitimately had a more dedicated cult fanbase. Maybe Microsoft gives Ninja Theory more grace but man do I fear for Ninja Theory. As for the little summit, ironically, the shift in price variation is one component I think will certainly pan out better and needs to be embraced by more of the industry at large. Sony having $40 games that potentially has prolonged revenue streams and small teams really boosts big returns. Then we have Astrobot which has a $60 price tag. And today's news is especially promising about Astrobot because it is incredibly aesthetically pleasing, technologically innovative, charming for everyone, and seemingly extremely well designed. All of this done in 3 years and such a small team. What may end up happening is that Sony does more $60 mascot games to compliment their tentpole safer bets. Ironically, creating a “Experimental” category gives their developers reprieve from burn out from big projects. I don’t think it’s just for games like Lego Horizon. Cory Balrog and Neil Druckman were both lamenting not having many big AAAs left in them. Maybe this category also can suit them 🤔. As for the stagnant ceiling, I think maybe I've looked at it wrong. Budgets are gonna balloon because 3rd parties even compete for the same users’ dollars and attention. And considering Playstation is the home of such popular 3rd party games, they also have to compete for the same users and dollars as well on their own platform. So they can't afford not to be one of the top dogs. Then the main Playstation Studios games are prestigious and a huge draw to the platform. So they would likely not want to stop producing them and thus are stuck. What also is affecting the ROI on these projects for the industry is Xbox. They groomed a significant portion of their player base not to buy games on top of their install base shuffling onto other Platforms and Xbox’s shrinking is compounded with the fact that everyone is contending against Evergreen F2Ps. Another conundrum for the industry is that while younger audiences still trend more towards consoles, Playstation doesn’t have enough family centric, “Everyone titles” from third party or from their platform currently Enter Lego Horizon and Astrobot. Lego Horizon especially can introduce Aloy and the universe to kids and perhaps mature them into Zero Dawn and Forbidden West. I believe Sony is leaning on the Lego brand and their relationship since Lego already has “Everyone” popularity, because they already have a Lego set, and potential into Lego Movies. And I believe it bleeds over to the parents. Because from the FTC leaks, Sony already estimated that about 50% of Playstation households own a Switch: metro.co.uk/2023/06/28/1-million-ps5-owners-only-play-call-of-duty-but-50-have-a-switch-19033894/ So what if the parent never owned Horizon, but becomes interested in it through playing Lego Horizon with their kids? Then you could have new Horizon customers. Another element to spur growth are adaptations. We already saw the potential boon it has for game sales. We have big examples of game adaptations spur game sales and possibly even console sales. TLOU HBO spurred a lot of game sales and possible console sales. Same has happened with the Fallout show. Same happened with the Mario movie. I think the pie grows from those as well. Because you possibly bring in new gaming households into the fold. And ironically, gaming helps cinema get butts in seats and viewers on Streaming/video platforms. Now come to the fun part, the Michael Pachter thoughts. He is a goofball that likely has stocks in Microsoft. Because subs are stagnating. Cloud is going nowhere. Even as large as mobile phones are, that slice has stagnated. Console grew YoY nearly 4x over PC for 2023 from 2022. And that is before Switch 2, before Playstation’s 2nd wave, and GTA 6. 2025 could likely be a massive year for console gaming. I think Michael Pachter’s perspective of the gaming industry is boneheaded as usual. Long response over
@Cosmic_Hero_270
@Cosmic_Hero_270 3 месяца назад
Hey jez great show man. Couldn’t make it last night and caught the replay. But honest question what makes Microsoft think that this windows on arm tech is going to work out for them ? They are getting skipped left and right for games and physical releases, devs constantly come out and say that the Xbox series consoles are a pain in the ass to work with and they have optimization issues all the time and they think that if they put a windows handheld out there it’s going to help HA don’t make me laugh 😂. Again the company is getting over inflated in the head like they always do and Playstation and Nintendo always come back to burst their bubble. They don’t learn they seem incapable of understanding their own problems and mistakes and continue to trip over their two feet. They bought Bethesda ( didn’t work ) they bought Activision ( fired a shit ton of people ) they shut down studios, they gave bots a 2 hr smoke and mirrors show and now to come and find out those games are not even ready is just the icing on the crap cake.
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R 3 месяца назад
The only thing that will make a game "launch exclusive" is if the team doesn't have the resources to launch on all platforms day 1. Case by case is the exact same thing. In some cases (Bethesda, Activision) the teams are set up to launch on all platforms. Some of their developers it might take a little extra time to get us the PlayStation version. I think they will be striving to have all their teams launch day and date by some point
@compostsmurf5519
@compostsmurf5519 3 месяца назад
They just trying to stick to their "1st, better or best" bs slogan... and it'll be 1st as they aren't selling the game to gamepass players and why put the effort in when the real launch comes to ps and Nintendo later
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R 3 месяца назад
@@compostsmurf5519 I think even that will fade over time. COD, Doom, Elder Scrolls, things like that will be day one anyway. Not all their teams are that big though, and ports aren't free, so some might come early to gamepass, then once they are all polished up they'll start porting them. I'd start looking for ports from their older titles, any of the bigger games are coming
@Maecmpo
@Maecmpo 3 месяца назад
Spaceballs 2 is in development 😮😢
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 3 месяца назад
Technically it's already been made and is already out before the movie has even come out 🤣
@compostsmurf5519
@compostsmurf5519 3 месяца назад
Disney beat them to it already with their version of star wars
@michaelmooradian4513
@michaelmooradian4513 3 месяца назад
I rewatched the segment about ARM and I see what you were saying. This is why no developer will make a special version for the windows store and gamepass. They will make the PC version of their games for Steam and Epic and call it a day. They will skip Xbox.
@joefilozof8380
@joefilozof8380 3 месяца назад
Perfect dark not hitting 60FPS.
@devilshooter126m8
@devilshooter126m8 3 месяца назад
44:15- too this day I use R1 and L1 for aiming and shooting.....
@compostsmurf5519
@compostsmurf5519 3 месяца назад
That's obviously bugged jez for a long time u could tell😂
@GamingGrindhouse
@GamingGrindhouse 3 месяца назад
Wow. I could never grasp it and play that way 😅
@dante19890
@dante19890 3 месяца назад
Everything will be streaming eventually. But we will see 2 or 3 more console generations before that
@Kushking_Kraven
@Kushking_Kraven 3 месяца назад
Yeah Phil paid Packer off or blew on his philute b4 the show 😂😂😂 talking about mobile & handhelds wit subscription services everything Xbox is
@Maecmpo
@Maecmpo 3 месяца назад
cloud is platform agnostic, so we need interface agnostic system for user input in games. pc, console, mobile should have the same input interface, if it's platform specific, we cannot have similar experience. Mobile gamers can't compete with pc or console players etc. The other solution is to dumb down game design to a level of Hellblade 2. Imagine elden ring, sekiro, nioh, gow like that. GTA V, cod, Fortnite, Roblox, blizzard, marvel games, sony and nintendo etc attracted as much different players as possible, for the most part, it's not about money and prices, it's about input devices. People still have problems with mouse and keyboard or controllers. For Pachter candy crush is a game and god of war is a game, but they're require different inputs and timings, hint, that's why we have different types of games. When you hear driving simulator or strategy, or slasher you understand what type of controls you will need etc.
@geraldonunez1183
@geraldonunez1183 3 месяца назад
i don't think that showcase will increase their console sales. The only game worth a dam during that showcase is gears of war to be honest and maybe perfect dark. Xbox simply lack bangers. They don't make good quality games period. Nothing but cartonny low budget games.
@RBFR01
@RBFR01 3 месяца назад
Microsofts last console will be coming out in 2026 but console is going to die completely and Limited Edition Xbox 360's will be worth a good chunk of money.
@RBFR01
@RBFR01 3 месяца назад
Consoles do not have a future. The new Xbox series X is the last console Microsoft are going to produce ever so collect limited edition consoles because they're going to be worth a good chunk of money.
@geraldonunez1183
@geraldonunez1183 3 месяца назад
This is xbox in a nutshell. Scoping, low quality budget gaming, games missing features, mediocre cartony graphics, missing content, and only 5 hours long. When i see anything xbox the first thing that comes to my mind is low quality, trash games missing features 🤣🤣🤣🤣. To be an xbox fan you need to have low expectation for their dog shit first party games. This is why i will never buy an xbox ever again or subscribe to their dog shit services.
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