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Ghostbusters Frozen Empire Deleted Scenes | So Much Was Cut Out | Extended Cut? 

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(Note - director Gil Kenan recently commented: “There’s only a couple of deleted scenes. Unfortunately, they’re great scenes, so it’s really hard to do, but they were really necessary to cut for shape and flow. They were fantastic scenes that came sort of too late in the film, when you really wanted to watch the preparations for the final siege on the firehouse come together. I’m definitely including them in whatever extra materials come out later on because I’m proud of the scenes.“ “I’m not really an extended-cut kind of guy. I believe that the film that comes out for audiences is forged by fire. The process of finishing the film is what makes the product.”)
There's so much footage shown in Ghostbusters Frozen Empire trailers and TV spots that were not included in the theatrical release, it makes you wonder why. It's not uncommon for this to happen with a scene or two, but what they have taken out of this film is quite a lot and might have messed with the pacing. Take a look at many scenes that were expected to be there but were not. If you caught any more, add them to the comments below. Hopefully we can get an extended cut at some point.

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@The1MrPickle
@The1MrPickle Месяц назад
There REALLY needs to be an extended cut for this one. I feel if they release an extended cut I think it would actually help the story a lot more
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I think so too, who knows what else was cut out.
@MetGrad
@MetGrad Месяц назад
Yeah it might actually make the movie good! We needed more Peter Venkman and actually busting some ghosts. OH, and some humor would be nice too!
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@MetGrad I can't believe anything with Venkman was cut. The one with him and Gary is a really bad omission as it could have been a great passing of the torch moment and also relationship/character building which this movie desperately needed! There's also one recently found of him in the sunglasses and it seems like they are busting ghosts in the firehouse, hard to tell but yet another scene cut.
@MetGrad
@MetGrad Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys I totally agree with you. He’s their original leader. The passing of the torch would’ve been great!
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@MetGrad They needed more character building. Like what's up with Lucky and Trevor, are they just friends, how did Lucky keep it secret she was working in the lab, why was Trevor not more upset about this? How could Podcast keep the lab a secret from Phoebe!? How could Janine keep it a secret from the team who kept on using the old containment unit which was falling apart? How could Winston keep letting them use all the old equipment? How could they not build any connection from Callie to Janine (as a mother figure) and from Phoebe to Callie so there was a good generational story. The characters just seem to occupy the same space.
@SparkyMarkyMark23
@SparkyMarkyMark23 Месяц назад
We really need an extended version of GhostBusters IV: Frozen Empire. On Physical Media🙏🏻.
@paulod27
@paulod27 Месяц назад
Janine not saying her iconic line: 'Ghostbustas, whadda ya want?' And a scene cut of Bill Murray is sacrilegious.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I know!! How do you cut those two things out. A lot of people feel they were made just for the trailer but I really don't think so.
@neuesachlichkeit6919
@neuesachlichkeit6919 29 дней назад
This. I will watch Bill Murray wandering around the set being Bill Murray for six hours, why would you cut ANY of his bits?
@fearfulclan2007
@fearfulclan2007 22 дня назад
Agreed, and they gave Slimer and the library ghost super short scenes, which I really hate, and I know those ghosts are fan favorites.
@mattdearmer3347
@mattdearmer3347 Месяц назад
Ghost girl wasn't featured anywhere in the trailers. It wasn't a great storyline/secret. I still want the film they advertised. Because the final cut was not it.
@fearfulclan2007
@fearfulclan2007 22 дня назад
Agreed, and we didn't even get any sort of ghost empire like the movie title suggests.
@bigboiiii883
@bigboiiii883 19 дней назад
​@@fearfulclan2007 Exactly such a let down, the movie was all about a ghost girl when we wanted more ghost busting scenes instead. These 2 directors n writers dont know what fans really want
@fearfulclan2007
@fearfulclan2007 19 дней назад
@@bigboiiii883 It also was titled Frozen Empire, and guess what we DID NOT GET A FUCKING FROZEN EMPIRE LF GHOSTS. This movie definitely was not as good as Kung Fu Panda 4 or Ghostbusters: Afterlife
@ronaldpaterni5081
@ronaldpaterni5081 10 дней назад
Exactly! My interpretation of the trailers was that this was going to be part 1 of an awesome story…nope…
@lo_fye
@lo_fye Месяц назад
I would gladly watch a 3 hour GB movie!
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
🙌 any day!
@ronaldpaterni5081
@ronaldpaterni5081 10 дней назад
…or…2 2.5-3 hour Ghostbusters movies? I really had the impression from the trailers that this was 2 movies worth of story…
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys 8 дней назад
@@ronaldpaterni5081 I didn't expect it to be a three hour movie but I did think it would be a little longer. It was entertaining enough that I think more of that footage would have been good.
@PixPete
@PixPete 29 дней назад
Something went seriously wrong here. I don’t know if you’ve seen, but the guy who plays the truck driver in the mid credits scene actually released a video recently explaining how he got the role and in it he said that this was part of weeks of reshoots happening in November! That’s very late given the film had wrapped and the trailers were out.
@sirdropbeartv
@sirdropbeartv Месяц назад
the trailer gave a specific mood. The movie took it away with the cuts and edits.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Right!! I wasn't thinking that these cuts might change the whole feel of the movie but seeing how much was taken out and not knowing there's more to the ending I think that could be the case.
@sirdropbeartv
@sirdropbeartv Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys it makes the film feel messy too. Which is a shame because it had potential to be a new favorite
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@sirdropbeartv I really had high hopes. I was very excited for this movie.
@sirdropbeartv
@sirdropbeartv Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys same. it had so much potential. it had interesting lore, some good ideas but for me too many ideas and too many re shoots and edits
@stevemartell8834
@stevemartell8834 Месяц назад
I was watching the film waiting for Janine to answer the phone and knew it it had been been cut but I never realised how much more was missing from the trailers. That’s false advertising isn’t it??
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Right. It sounds almost dramatic but how do you cut a scene that you push so heavily in marking and know will be missed. They did that a lot.
@stevemartell8834
@stevemartell8834 Месяц назад
Yeh exactly. It doesn’t help that they showed too much in the trailers in the first place yet alone show scenes they never used! It will be a shame if they only turn up as deleted scenes instead of an extended cut.
@ronaldpaterni5081
@ronaldpaterni5081 8 дней назад
It is, but since it’s done with so many movies, I don’t know what can be done about it. What hurts is that, in this case, these weren’t throwaway scenes, or alternate takes. These scenes would have mattered to audiences.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys 7 дней назад
@@ronaldpaterni5081 I didn't know this was happening so often. I must be old and not seeing many current films. It's not knocking the movie, it's that I genuinely would like to see more of it, especially if it's part of the promotion.
@jalladude4284
@jalladude4284 Месяц назад
This is so annoying! It definitely felt like a lot was missing. I especially felt like the "Frozen Empire" part was way too short, but who knows if that would've been fixed with the extra scenes
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
That could be true, who knows what was taken out. Several of the trailers talks about "every ghost they ever caught" was coming to get them. Winston even said the line. It could have just been added for effect, but that definitely didn't happen in the movie. Garraka cracked open the containment unit and just flew all over the city (and are still out there). So we never saw them attacked by tons of ghosts which seemed like the main plot decive.
@shadowdragongames3569
@shadowdragongames3569 Месяц назад
I did felt that a lot of ghost escaping was missing, i was hoping like an invasion of them, like in gb 2
@omegafire6253
@omegafire6253 Месяц назад
I was expecting something like the day after tomorrow type of world building only with ghosts.
@shadowdragongames3569
@shadowdragongames3569 Месяц назад
@@omegafire6253 they could have done that, but they went for the known formula, it is a good idea tough,
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@omegafire6253 Right, which is implied from some of the early posters - all the GB's out in the frozen city.
@keepdreamin
@keepdreamin Месяц назад
The movie would've been better if all this stuff was in the movie
@odoibhilin9
@odoibhilin9 Месяц назад
The trailers had me so excited for the movie for so many reasons. The theatrical release left me really disappointed - and I love the other 3 movies religiously! 😞
@odoibhilin9
@odoibhilin9 Месяц назад
I mean, all 4 of them on the rooftop in the red parkas is basically the theatrical poster!!
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@odoibhilin9 Right, I was shocked that scene wasn't in there because it went viral for the red jackets, and people were intrigued what the scene could be.
@JosephBernal82
@JosephBernal82 Месяц назад
Companies that put these trailers together for the movie studios are the ones that take the footage and cut a trailer together. This doesn't mean that the scenes in the trailer were cut out of the movie. It just means that some of the scenes that the trailer company used to put the trailer together, the studios didn't put in the movie. This is common and happens a lot.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I know it happens but not sure if it ever happened to this degree, with this many scenes cut out. Someone should have told the marketing company making the trailer that so much had been cut.
@BOND19951
@BOND19951 Месяц назад
I like to know why they cut out so many scenes. Its like Ghsotbusters 2 all over again.
@jedarsena3001
@jedarsena3001 Месяц назад
It's crazy, these are just the scenes we know we're cut out. There had to be LOTS more cut for such an impact on the scenes we know about. I really hope there's a substantial director's edition release of this movie.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Right, lots of these 2 second clips have to be part of a bigger scene so who knows how much more there really is.
@creativeguy1138
@creativeguy1138 Месяц назад
The ONLY way we will see an extended cut is for fans to contact SONY and ask for it. Gil Kenan has already said he isn't interested in doing one.
@tonycasson5675
@tonycasson5675 Месяц назад
It’s a absolute joke! I just hope they add it to the Blu-ray release
@imranbecks
@imranbecks Месяц назад
I'm looking forward to the extended cut.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I hope we get one, with all of this in there!!
@kevin_vincent
@kevin_vincent Месяц назад
They should have cut the ghostly gal pal scenes down quite a bit.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
It was strange in that it was a ghost interest. Way too many questions there. Also, Phoebe does not seem the type to have romance on her mind at all, her passion was to be a Ghostbuster and was kicked off the team. All relationships suffered in this movie. What's up with Lucky and Trevor? What's up with Gary and Callie, I did NOT get a relationship feel from them at all. What's the relationship between the OG's and the New Team? How about Callie being an actual mom? It felt like characters were randomly put together on screen.
@kevinfisher5492
@kevinfisher5492 Месяц назад
They cut the other stuff to make ROOM for it, from the looks of it.
@okcoconuts
@okcoconuts Месяц назад
what's even more surprising is how many scenes from the released promo material that wasn't actually in the movie.
@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings_97
@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings_97 Месяц назад
This is where everyone needs to start tweeting at Sony asking for a Directors Cut on the dvd release. It only means more money for them anyway.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
#FrozenEmpireExtendedCut
@tubbyt6318
@tubbyt6318 28 дней назад
They gone have to put it back in theaters with the deleted scenes. I’m ready 🍿
@bigboiiii883
@bigboiiii883 18 дней назад
N get rid of the ghost girl for more ghostbusting scenes. The trailers were misleading
@tubbyt6318
@tubbyt6318 15 дней назад
@@bigboiiii883 yeah I think they only busted one ghost. And gave the librarian one scene
@VideosSmokin
@VideosSmokin Месяц назад
Man, imagine if those scenes were in the movie, I think the movie would have felt more complete. Even if there were an hour worth of scenes cut out, I would have still see the movie in theaters if it makes the movie better.
@fearfulclan2007
@fearfulclan2007 22 дня назад
Agreed
@void5613
@void5613 Месяц назад
I absolutely need the janine sitting on the edge figure, what is it, and where can I find one?
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
That's one of my faves. That was part of the Mattel Retro-Action Real Ghostbusters line that came out around 2011. There was a set released with Janine, Samhain, Slimer and the Firehouse. I plan to review that whole series at some point. Not everyone liked that line but I loved them. Only place to find them now is eBay.
@TheMichaelBeck
@TheMichaelBeck 17 дней назад
I hate when executives mess up movies. I'm not even sure if I want to see it now.
@AdamCampettiVideo
@AdamCampettiVideo 16 дней назад
Reitman made the same mistake he made in the last one. Not enough original cast in it. All the cast are old, but they're still very spry and capable of "busting ghost" scenes.
@mve1360
@mve1360 Месяц назад
It spent the whole movie building up the villain to have it arrive for 20 minutes and pose no issue.
@Schwift3D
@Schwift3D 23 дня назад
I also noticed that the movie felt heavily trimmed when watching in the theater
@thedrumman2019
@thedrumman2019 Месяц назад
I definitely think this was more of a studio call than director call. No way they would go that much into detail and willingly cut it themselves. The movie is just under 2 hours and adding those scenes probably wouldve gone close to 2 hours 15 minutes maybe 30. Definitely hope to see an extended cut version. And dan Aykroyd himself even said in an interview that he has ideas for 2 other movies after this one
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
That's exactly what I think, and now knowing that the ending had more to it from what the director said I think this was close to 2hrs and 30mins and the studio felt it was too long wanted it to be under 2 hours. That makes sense why even littler scenes got cut too, they took out everything possible to come in just under 2 hours.
@thedrumman2019
@thedrumman2019 29 дней назад
@ThereBeToys my only gripe is I feel they could've gone away with the melody diner scene tbh... and added in one of those deleted scenes like either the one of Venkman talking with grooberson at the containment unit or the longer ending. That melody diner scene imo was not needed. Nor was the scene with slimer. Yeah it was cool to see slimer back but that scene he got for himself was not needed for the story imo
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys 29 дней назад
@@thedrumman2019 I thought the Melody diner scene was going to play into it more. I expected Podcast and Phoebe to be at odds with each other after that and strain their friendship, which seemed nonexistent by that point. Phoebe being now friendly to ghosts and Podcast believing they need to be trapped, so therefore adding tension between them.
@supermetroid009
@supermetroid009 Месяц назад
I just saw the movie yesterday and yeah, there were plenty of things cut out that were in the trailer. Hopefully will get an extended Blu-ray cut.
@ReelFilm2016
@ReelFilm2016 Месяц назад
Nice Video Sir. Nicely put together.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Thank you.
@BigFunnyGiant
@BigFunnyGiant Месяц назад
I heard it may have been closer to 30 minutes that was trimmed out. Which probably is why to me, it felt incomplete. As far as there being scenes in the trailers that weren’t in the movie, every movie does that.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I originally thought 15 minutes but I think you are right.
@dansimon1100
@dansimon1100 Месяц назад
I have a feeling when they release it on blu-ray 4K. There's gonna be a lot of more content that we did not see in the movie. Plus how did they come from Summerville to New York City. I feel like that should have been explained in the movie.
@blackswanpersonal
@blackswanpersonal Месяц назад
Apparently that story is in the comic book that came out recently, but I agree there should have been more sense of continuity to make it feel like all these people are the same characters from the previous films
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I'm not sure. The director discussed it, only saying there were "a few" deleted scenes but mainly to the end battle. He said he hoped people could see it somehow, and didn't mention the upcoming DVD.
@dang9059
@dang9059 23 дня назад
Love these points, I had seen them in the trailer and completely forgot when I saw it at the cinema
@TechInTheCar
@TechInTheCar Месяц назад
Don’t forget the slim from GB2. They have the slime pack on in one of the cut scenes and we can see that they made the slime in the Adam Savage behind the scenes videos.
@Lickthestars
@Lickthestars Месяц назад
Nathan Orloff and Shane Reid! 🎞✂️ or was it Gil! Sony?! I'm currently compiling all the footage lost from the theatrical cut via TV spots, International ads, and the whole deal
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Awesome. There's so much I cannot find it all. Seriously I was looking forward to most of those cut scenes!! Who knows what else might have actually been cut that we didn't see at all. If it was the directors choice, then who decided to show all that in commercials knowing it wouldn't be there? I don't know if any other movie has had this happen with this much.
@RockmanX82
@RockmanX82 Месяц назад
Sounds like an extended or director’s cut is in order
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I want an extended theatrical release LOL But I really hope we get to see it in full somehow.
@RockmanX82
@RockmanX82 Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys I saw the movie for the first time yesterday. I kind of like afterlife more. And I understand the flaws Of the movie. All those seasons not in the movie, it’s not uncommon for trailer to be different. My guess with the rewrites the conflict was probably suppose to show up in the second act of the movie vs the last. I’m pretty sure the script was rewritten for that. I’m betting a previous draft was better. For this movie I think it would have better if they encountered this entity earlier in the movie, lost, regrouped, then saved the day in the end. I just think the movie was too character driven vs story driven. The originals were always more story driven and the ghostbusters were just along for the ride. The city itself was a character much like the car was. Ghostbusting isn’t easy, looks like a scary and dangerous job, and the current characters makes it seem like it’s no sweat. Don’t get me wrong you can’t compare the originals to the new ones. The styles of both Ivan and his son are just different, his son is struggling with filling 30yrs with having no additions to the franchise. So he’s stuck developing characters and rebuilding the world. It’s not his fault it’s a Sony issue. If we got any Ghostbusters movies over the last two decades he would have a better use of his resources. I really would have liked to see the city really being hit hard from the beginning, having a failure before the 3rd act only to safe the day. Woulda been a much more compelling story. All the building blocks were there. Overall still a great addition to the franchise, good movie. Just not the best only because so much film time was spent helping rebuild the foundation. I would see it again but I think someone had him rewrite it
@cherokee43v6
@cherokee43v6 Месяц назад
Actually, the two you mention about Lucky ARE in the film. She does shout 'get away from her' just before firing her proton pack when Garaka is puppeting Phoebe's ghost. And you do see Lucky freezing in the same scene just after Garaka freezes the proton stream. What I found missing were a lot of the set-ups for what happened later in the film. There needed to be more build-up to Phoebe's almost suicidal talk with Ray about 'ever wondering what it would be like to be a ghost' and then later, when she suddenly decides to become one, it is like there was a scene cut from the earlier tour of the research facility where that should have been explained. (ie Chekov's Gun was missing).
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Lucky actually shouts "Hey a$$hole" which I found surprising, but didn't shout "Get away from her. Someone actually uploaded footage on here but I'll bet it has been taken down now. Lucky begins freezing, but the it did not show the closeup of her eye freezing, the frozen beams fall and break on the floor and then we see Lucky looking almost thawed. I agree about Phoebe but it almost took it out of being a comedy or GB movie to be implying what she did. When she is in the lab earlier there is a throw-away line about if the spirit extraction chamber could be used on a possesses person. I guess she got the idea from that but it seemed way too careless of her to use that machine on herself for being the smartest one. Although I suppose then did mention Egon doing experiments on himself in the original movie.
@fearfulclan2007
@fearfulclan2007 22 дня назад
Garaka had a lot of potential and he ended up being the most boring Ghostbusters villain along with Vigo
@bigboiiii883
@bigboiiii883 18 дней назад
She didnt shout get away from her, i noticed that in the movie. And if he freezes lucky in that scene how did she unfreeeze herself????
@fearfulclan2007
@fearfulclan2007 18 дней назад
@@bigboiiii883 She didn't say get away from her but instead said hey asshole, and it was the fire master who unfroze everyone.
@bigboiiii883
@bigboiiii883 18 дней назад
@@fearfulclan2007 thats what i said she DIDN'T shout get away from her. And were talking about the scene with lucky and garraka alone at the new reserach centre there was no firemaster there to unfreeze her coz he wasn't in that scene so how did she unfreeze herself? They obviously changed their mind coz her eyes freeze up in the trailer n they cut that out realising they'd have to kill her character off then
@SextonKing
@SextonKing 15 дней назад
We got pretty robbed. There was no real character development, everything was too crammed and shoved to keep moving. Smaller cast and more depth to the dialogue and characters, like in the original, that’s what we needed.
@FatGuyGolf
@FatGuyGolf Месяц назад
Studios have this weird idea that we can't sit for 2.25 hours - but can for 2 hours. It's just wild how lost studios are with this stuff.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
How do they explain Avatar lol I think they wanted to push this as a kids movie, which are normally shorter.
@jedarsena3001
@jedarsena3001 Месяц назад
I think it also affects how many screenings can be shown. If a movie is really long they loose money because of fewer showings.
@FatGuyGolf
@FatGuyGolf Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToysavatar had James Cameron who will never let a studio tell him what he can and can’t do. 20th century Fox was the company on that. They don’t have a reputation for screwing with story / art - planet of the apes / Martian / alien franchise with Prometheus
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@FatGuyGolf Between everything with Warner Brothers and Coyote Vs Acme, and now this GB movie being cut so drastically, it's crazy what is being done to these films.
@FatGuyGolf
@FatGuyGolf Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys it's just wild - these suits sitting in their offices making well over 6 figures telling a director or writer to chop up their story.
@thesargonas
@thesargonas 26 дней назад
FYI it's a very common marketing tactic these days to film scenes that are only meant for trailers to sell the "tone" of the movie if the movie has a high enough marketing budget. Often these will be asides and quick cuts of already planned scenes that they film at the same time with no strong plan to actually include in the final cut, and are scripted with a trailer in mind, or are B-roll/second unit type footage filmed exclusively as a "mood setter" for the trailer. There are definitely scenes in the trailer that are from cut scenes, but there are also a LOT, and I do mean a LOT, that to the trained eye look like they were simply shot specifically for the trailer.
@keepdreamin
@keepdreamin Месяц назад
You're right so much was cut in trailers and tv spots. And Bill Murray's YEAH HA was replaced with LOOKING SPORTY
@keepdreamin
@keepdreamin Месяц назад
2 SCENES from Bill Murray cut out. Including the yeah that's some talent scene with Bill Murray
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Right, that one I caught right before editing. The thing is those clips are maybe 1 or 2 seconds but they would have to accompany a longer scene, so how much are we missing?
@keepdreamin
@keepdreamin Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys Missing probably a lot. I think Bill Murray should've been in the movie from the beginning with a story that's developed. I think Dana should have reunited with Peter and their grown up son Oscar. What do you think?
@Thedogdad84
@Thedogdad84 Месяц назад
@@keepdreaminI missed Dana
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@keepdreamin It would have been great to have Oscar sort of be the Firemaster person, since paranormal activity seems to follow him and Dana. Dana could have worked at the Library and helped Ray figure out the orb and understand the ancient carvings since she had some knowledge of art in GB2.
@RealHectorCanales
@RealHectorCanales Месяц назад
Man!!! It all makes sense now. After watching your video, THIS IS MY SPECULATION, I think the gay/lesbian ghost character was shoehorned into the movie due to DEI mandates, deleting pivotal movie scenes that helped shape the mood & story. Look back, EVERY SCENE with the gay/lesbian ghost can be taken out and the story of the film will still flow. That story of the ghost was absolutely unnecessary for the story they were aiming to tell. Yeah, she was at the end of the movie to help defeat Baracka, but then why did Phoebe make a special proton pack (for it only to fail)? It was probably not meant to combine with the fire masters powers in order to defeat Baracka. I don’t know man, but I would have rather had that movie.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Since Garraka can possess ghosts, why didn't he control Melody at the end? I can also understand if he had been controlling her all along, to make it seem that Melody liked Phoebe, and if so they didn't state that. That's pretty mean but it's dramatic and might have gotten the audience to sympathize with Phoebe. Also, there's been people discussing did Phoebe not want to be living. I did get that feeling too a little, and that's sort of heavy for a GB story. Afterlife addressed this best, with Egon's newer ghost and then seeing him move on. Having a human ghost like Melody brought about too many questions. The ghost's should be sort of silly or scary. If you replaced Melody with say Slimer, you'd have a more entertaining movie. Slimer sort of becomes a pet to Phoebe, she can communicate with him in some way and does't want to trap him, but Trevor does, causing tension between them, further alienating herself from her family. Slimer is later controlled by Garraka and tricks Phoebe, so we later feel sympathy for them both. They also kept Mckenna Grace from seeming older, meanwhile they made such a huge deal about Trevor being 18. Phoebe needed to grow. I don't have any issue if Phoebe is lesbian, but they never developed her at all and I'd find it hard to believe this character was interested in anything more than being a Ghostbuster.
@AdamCampettiVideo
@AdamCampettiVideo 16 дней назад
They must be showing different versions in this digital era. The version I saw shows lucky's eyes freezing because I thought, "Well if there's a part 5 she's not returning" thinking she bought the farm. And the verrsion I watched had Murray in the containment room with Rudd.
@douglasallord
@douglasallord 14 дней назад
Yes! Watching it in the cinema, I felt several times like, “wait. Something has been cut” #awkwardediting
@stevenmichaels2422
@stevenmichaels2422 Месяц назад
Sounds like Ghostbusters: Afterlife 2 had some of the same issues as the original GB2
@TKTriesit
@TKTriesit Месяц назад
This movie was all over the place, we had some things we didnt like but if they do make an extended cut we will definitely check it out.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I really think an extended cut would make this movie so much better.
@social2973
@social2973 19 дней назад
I am sure it will be added to the DVD release. This is why I stopped going to theaters when you are just getting part of the movie..
@MLJ7956
@MLJ7956 Месяц назад
I sure hope they come out with an extended cut on DVD/Blu-Ray
@superplaysminecraft3923
@superplaysminecraft3923 9 дней назад
Jurassic world dominion had this problem. Then we got extended version when it came to Peacock. Hopefully the same happens here
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys 8 дней назад
I really hope so.
@jayj84
@jayj84 Месяц назад
Apparently the run time changed by 20 mins just 2 weeks before release.
@mikeadams7904
@mikeadams7904 Месяц назад
It felt it. It felt disjointed and butchered
@blackswanpersonal
@blackswanpersonal Месяц назад
Wow. We’ve been Dune 1984-d. As if anyone at Sony thinks we couldn’t sit through an additional 20 mins of movie after waiting 30 years to see it. Wild
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I absolutely believe this. I felt the movie could be closer to 2hrs 30 mins now that the director said the end battle had a lot more to it. It feels like they took an ax to it to get it to just under 2 hrs. You don't put all that stuff in trailers and tv and social media spots if they were taken out long before. The edit had to happen down to the wire and rushed.
@jayj84
@jayj84 Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys definitely feels rushed, shame as I actually really like the film and my 10 y/o daughter loved it.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@jayj84 That's good though, I'm glad the younger generation is liking it. We need Ghostbusters to continue!!
@SJCMARK
@SJCMARK Месяц назад
We really should get an extended cut.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
The director said he's not into that. So I'm really nervous that we will not see that happen.
@InsidetheBoothTV
@InsidetheBoothTV Месяц назад
i hope we get a directors cut
@mve1360
@mve1360 Месяц назад
Up until the week before it came out all the commercials said film not yet rated. I think they were having issues getting a pg13 rating and that caused all the cuts.
@michwashington
@michwashington Месяц назад
I subscribed because of this video GH❤STBUSTERS‼️👍
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
🤍👻
@michwashington
@michwashington 29 дней назад
@@ThereBeToys The white heart 🤍 is awesome. 👏
@realsuperdoctor5260
@realsuperdoctor5260 Месяц назад
Them chopping down the movie made a discredit to the people who made and worked on the film, their editing messed how better this could have actually had been if scenes were added with Janine and Peter Venkman, I think they will learn from their mistakes.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
So much of Janine and Peter were cut, but it appears many things with most of the characters has been cut altogether.
@adrianvanleeuwen
@adrianvanleeuwen 13 дней назад
Sometimes the studio wants a shorter movie so they can get more screenings per night at a theater. A film makes most of its money the first 2 weeks shown, so more viewings helps box office.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys 12 дней назад
A few people have mentioned this which I can understand the reasoning but it seems crazy if it is at the expense of the movie to cut it up like that. Can only hope they released all the scenes at some point.
@wullie823
@wullie823 Месяц назад
ok, maybe no extended cut, but as has happened before, many a time, there's always hope for a leak of the workprint(which usually are extended)
@benjalockridge6247
@benjalockridge6247 Месяц назад
It happens all the time. Why is anyone's guess. A lot of times though, it's for pacing reasons. I've read/heard many big directors says if you want to make movies, be prepared to be crushed when you find it necessary to cut your favorite scene. But if it is studio meddling, I hope it gets an extended release. If not, there was a creative reason and usually it was a disruption of flow when looking at the movie as a whole.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Right, it definitely happens but I'm not sure if it happened at this level, with so much shown in the trailers and the many tv spots they had. If they knew these weren't in the film why keep them in. How late in the game was the movie finally edited?
@benjalockridge6247
@benjalockridge6247 Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys I hear you, but you also have to consider that more often than not, the people editing the feature are not the same folks editing trailers and working on promotional material. I disagree with this approach. But it’s like that.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@benjalockridge6247 True the marketing team probably didn't know about all these edits, but were they given a full cut of the movie with the studio never informing them of this huge change? And if marketing had all these scenes then an extended movie has to exist somewhere.
@benjalockridge6247
@benjalockridge6247 Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys Maybe but not always. Trailers are often cut long before a film is in its finished form. But at the end of the day, I know nothing. Could be a longer cut out there somewhere
@RichieAustinMagician
@RichieAustinMagician Месяц назад
think they where really pushed to make the film 2 hours or less
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Exactly. Why is the question? It's kind of a mess without all those pieces in it.
@theprimestonecollection295
@theprimestonecollection295 Месяц назад
Extended cut for more money when it comes to online stores and home releases?
@jamesstafford1514
@jamesstafford1514 13 дней назад
So what you are saying is they mercifully saved us from having to endure another few minutes of the Phantom Menace of the Ghostbusters franchise?
@23RedTechno
@23RedTechno Месяц назад
There was a scene between Phoebe and Melody where they chatting in the subway train that got cut out of the movie as well .
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
It makes you wonder how much else was cut. There was no real character development.
@ComicgeddonTV
@ComicgeddonTV Месяц назад
If the studio was concerned about run time, they should have done what the 80's movies did, have a montage that combines a lot of action scenes with some music over top, then they could have more scenes with dialogue... I really think that's what Afterlife and Frozen Empire were missing along with the opening jump scare followed by the theme and intro. They're really trying to reinvent the wheel with these films, and while they aren't bad by any means, they removing a lot of the stuff that made the franchise so beloved in the first place.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Very true, there was no GB style montage like the first two movies. The movie was fun, I was just expecting all these scenes, and knowing even more was deleted to the end makes me wonder why, even if wanting it shorter, cut it so drastically. It really hurt the film.
@meikfehlig6142
@meikfehlig6142 Месяц назад
If there would be an direktors cut that that would be like wit star wars Episode IV
@Thedogdad84
@Thedogdad84 Месяц назад
Gil said that the deleted scenes will be released but there won’t be an extended cut. I am sure fans will edit it themselves.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I saw. Really a let down. He's saying their were only a few deleted scenes to the end, so I'm doubting they will release all of this footage.
@Vincent-ly2ik
@Vincent-ly2ik Месяц назад
My guess is that there’s several versions because some of the scenes you mentioned were in the movie I watched. Also trailers are often made using scraps from the editing process.
@steelstreet79
@steelstreet79 Месяц назад
Afterlife was special but this was good. I wanted to see one the O'G drive the etco 1. 😢
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Me too but I'm glad we got the scene of possessed Ecto-1 going after them, that was a cool scene.
@pulse4503
@pulse4503 13 дней назад
Very glad to see em back, but, a missed chance! They should have spent the 2nd half of the flick showing the freezing of ny, and I envisioned the battle with Giarraki on the frozen ocean, with the demon the size of the enpire state, a grey sky on the backdrop, something spectacular, they did the opposite! Pity, it has been the last chance to seen the 3 in action and they wasted
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys 12 дней назад
The director mentioned the ending was different so I'm really curious to see what was changed. I also thought they were going to walk around frozen NY based on those first posters.
@pulse4503
@pulse4503 12 дней назад
@@ThereBeToys the trailer is a humbug
@AC3handle
@AC3handle Месяц назад
okay, glad I wasn't the only one who felt something was off on this movie. It really felt like it should have been longer. That ending felt...rushed.
@deeg8182
@deeg8182 23 дня назад
I get what youre saying but I liked that there werent any real spoliers. It wasnt one of those movies where the trailer was the best bits of the film. It left a lot of surprise. Either way I loved Frozen Empire
@benpearce4313
@benpearce4313 29 дней назад
The trailer “Melnitz in uniform, yeah” changed to “Melnitz in uniform, looking sporty” in the movie!
@grantdole
@grantdole Месяц назад
Well at least the trailers didn't spoil the film.. 🤣 ... and I'm hoping for extended cut
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
😆
@jasonethridge4506
@jasonethridge4506 Месяц назад
I'm not entirely sure why Sony did it, but from what I can tell, they're just trying to make us wait until the DVD comes out. They should redo the movie and include the scenes that was missing, but I don't think that it's going to happen.​@@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@jasonethridge4506 I wish they would, but the director is now saying he doesn't do extended cuts, but said maybe some deleted scenes from the end battle will be shown sometime as deleted scenes.
@jasonethridge4506
@jasonethridge4506 Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys That's what I thought. Well, either way. I'm going to watch it later this weekend.
@hollywoodmkx
@hollywoodmkx Месяц назад
The problem is that they wanted to please everyone and the product showed. It was a good movie, I feel, but I think when the studio made the call to make cuts it watered the movie down a tad. Again I think the movie was good. I also think Ghostbusters II had the same problem where loads of scenes were deleted and the product showed. Even though I love GB2.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
It keeps looking more and more like a lot was cut out of GB FE. This was such a bad call by the studio and I'm betting the director can't speak out in his own defense just yet.
@andyl8u
@andyl8u 24 дня назад
So the editor for the trailer would get all footage that was shot and they would grab what’s good to show people before the movie is done with their editing. Final editing would always be a bit different than the trailer a lot of the time.
@greywolf7583
@greywolf7583 17 дней назад
I 🤔 they cut stuff outI they need a director cut of Ghostbusters Frozen Empire
@toxicbigot
@toxicbigot Месяц назад
Yup I noticed all of this as well
@halfdemonhero1472
@halfdemonhero1472 Месяц назад
*Spoilers follow* Overall I'm really disappointed. It felt so much was shoehorned in for the sake of having it in there for marketing or nostalgia. I completely hated the Phoebe and Mercy story thread. It felt disingenuous to her character. It made no sense that Winston would keep the GB engineers a secret but allow the Spenglers to carry on busting with old proton packs. And why have Lucky who isn't a Scientist rather than Phoebe as an intern??? There was no explanation of Janine's new equipment and it wasn't really used. It would have made more sense that Lucky & Podcast were coming to visit them for the Summer and got caught up in events. Rather than them being part of the OG's team. The Fire master guy although funny I hated the fact they made him a magical hero who helped save the day. It should be science and busters not some ancient bloodline prophecy. The sex dungeon jokes weren't needed and for younger audiences not appropriate. They could have easily alluded to that so the grown ups got the jokes but it would go over kids heads (Like Ray's zipper dream in GB1. As a kid I didn't understand but thought it was funny as grown up it is still funny but not in the same way) Ray should've been the go-to guy for ancient languages not have a side quest to Patton Oswalt at the library. And Phoebe asking him if he believes in ghosts when he is friends with an OG ghostbuster was just stupid and wasn't consistent with her character. The library ghost although great to see was just for nostalgia. Had it been AFTER the containment unit breach it would have made more sense. The film feels like it's been chopped up and changed and they lost the flow of the film. There were alot of great ideas but they just weren't executed well. Too many characters. Too many concepts. The whole less is more would have worked so much better. I wanted it to be as good as Afterlife but feel this has damaged the franchise. I can't help but feel that Ivan's advice and influence was lost for this film. I want it to do well so we have more Ghostbusters films but if it's going to be of this same quality then I'm happy to stop here and just be happy with GB, GB2 & Afterlife.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
It was sad to watch it and not have all this stuff I looked forward to in it. I enjoyed it but I really need an extended cut. Phoebe and Melody was a touchy story (although you call her Mercy that would have been a better name for her given the circumstances around the character) We dealt with human ghosts in Afterlife. It felt like repeating those elements. You're right. The lab didn't make sense. Phoebe is supposed to be the smartest and most passionate of them, why would she not be made aware of the lab. Why would Janine and Winston keep letting them use the old equipment and highly unstable containment unit? I was really looking forward to Janine's compact thrower, we barely get to see Lucky using it, much less her. Lucky and Podcast did not seem to be real close with Trevor and Phoebe. They did not build on these relationships at all. The Firemaster was hit and miss. Possession and evil spirts work, but the magic fire bending didn't seem to. There had to be a way to introduce maybe good spirits or something that fell more in line with GB lore. The jokes were weird. There was a lot of double entendre with Peter and Dana but it was so funny and well done, not blatant. The pantz unzipping sort of stands alone and was supposed to be a real scene but they probably thought they went to far and made it a dream. It was also part of a much longer scene. Ray totally should have know how to find out about the ancient language. He should have met up with that original library guy and was shown to the books that would lead them to discover the carvings of the orb and Garraka. Patton's character was not needed at all. The definitely chopped this movie to pieces. It's really upsetting they did this and who know's what it could be like in full.
@Raad187KO
@Raad187KO Месяц назад
I watched the film last night, and i am completely agree with your opinion, it was a decent enough fun film overall, but the pacing got worse as the film progressed. The final act felt really choppy, the edit room floor must have looked a mess! I think turning the franchise into a mini series might be the way to go in the future???
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I would LOVE a GB series!! Like how X-Files was in the beginning. Episodic; a new ghost each episode.
@Raad187KO
@Raad187KO Месяц назад
​@ThereBeToys they can take influence from The Real Ghostbusters, even Extreme had great episodes! It can be done and I think the franchise would be better for it!
@ronaldpaterni5081
@ronaldpaterni5081 10 дней назад
I really thought this movie was setting up something…maybe a sequel? So, I was patient to let it play out, but in the final, I’m like “that was it?” I suppose even a series would have been more acceptable than what we got.
@vanmicah
@vanmicah Месяц назад
I hope we do get some kind of directors cut of this film. I was disappointed when I watched it and all these scenes had been cut.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Thank you, same here. When I saw so much was not there it seemed strange they'd take so much out and I had a feeling the pace of the movie would suffer.
@jmcnear22
@jmcnear22 Месяц назад
the simple explaination for this is alternate takes, studio notes, and cutdowns to fit under the 2 hour run time. All of that is going to be on Sony and Columbia and are outside of the director's control even probably outside of Jason Reitman's control as well. I'm sure they will probably have them as extras on the digital release and physical Blu-ray release. Hopefully enough demand can get an extended cut because it does seem like a lot of extra footage is available. This does happen a lot if you go back and look at movie trailers it's common to have things in the trailers that aren't in the films or alternate angles/takes. I liked the movie but felt the movie had some editing problems for sure.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I agree that it was the studio too, wanting it to be under 2 hours. True that some deleted scenes get into a trailer, especially with older movies when trailers weren't a big thing and usually just seen in the theater or on TV shortened down. But the amount of stuff here is pretty high. And again I mention the director has confirmed much was deleted from the end of the movie, so we know for sure clips we see from the end were supposed to be there at some point.
@alexdesuys5712
@alexdesuys5712 Месяц назад
The trailers made me want to see it, but I found it hugely disappointing.
@Wollaston123
@Wollaston123 Месяц назад
The scene with the guy from evil dead in rays occult wasn't in there either
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
What!? What scene is this?
@ceeece
@ceeece Месяц назад
It showed.
@This-country-sucks-4
@This-country-sucks-4 Месяц назад
Also a shortage of ghost being busted
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I was expecting an army of ghosts!!
@mattgrisham9058
@mattgrisham9058 Месяц назад
Theyve always done this type of thing. Most the time they put all the good parts in the trailers
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Are there other examples you can give at this same level of cut scenes? I am very curious to know. They certainly put in a lot of good parts in the trailer, but often they are also in the movie too.
@trekguy66
@trekguy66 Месяц назад
What’s going to happen is that if there is another movie, no one is going to have much faith in the trailers released beforehand. I certainly won’t. It’s basically a bait and switch operation.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I would be really hesitant too.
@entertainmentwizard2703
@entertainmentwizard2703 Месяц назад
Unfortunately the director did not seem interested in a extended cut but hopefully we get most of the cut material as deleted scenes!
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Yeah that worried me. He said only some scenes were cut and in fact there are many.
@mfa8086
@mfa8086 Месяц назад
I enjoyed this film.
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258 Месяц назад
So bizarre. Why cut so much. Feels like it would have been a better movie.
@flippeee5
@flippeee5 25 дней назад
i dont understand why they cut this movie down, there wasnt enough time to tell the story they wanted to tell.
@LosAngelesCatfish
@LosAngelesCatfish Месяц назад
Agreed
@TroyUlysses
@TroyUlysses Месяц назад
It felt like they filmed a lot of scenes and thought "fix it in the edit bay"
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
It did feel like some scenes were just random or like different pieces that didn't quite fit at times, but if they add a lot of these cut scenes back in I think it would be a lot better.
@JasonDeline
@JasonDeline Месяц назад
Pretty sure the first two scenes were shot exclusively for promotional material.
@ghostengineer
@ghostengineer Месяц назад
I loved the movie overall but I was upset that so many scenes were cut. They certainly diverted our expectations.
@kwaichangcaine-xu4jh
@kwaichangcaine-xu4jh Месяц назад
How could they Cut-"Ghostbusters, Whadaya Want ?!"
@ThePonderer
@ThePonderer Месяц назад
Honestly makes me glad I didn’t see the trailer before the movie
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
Push for an extended cut lol It wasn't awful but I could tell they chopped it up so bad. It deserves better.
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258 Месяц назад
How could they cut her on the phone.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I was SO upset. I love Janine. I could tell right away it was cut when I saw her in a different outfit, and I was like, did they seriously cut that. From there on I could tell things were missing.
@vladimirimp
@vladimirimp Месяц назад
There’s an alternative - that like Rogue One they changed the story in places which made scenes redundant.
@jointhemasquerade
@jointhemasquerade Месяц назад
Completely agree. Thought there were some really poor and very noticeble, continunity edits in there too. Personally, I wouldn't have an extended version, I'd just cut all the scenes out with Melody and put the trailer scenes back in. Length would probably be the same.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
I think we saw enough with a human ghost helping save the day with Egon. That made it special, it was emotional and gave closure to the Gozer storyline. It answered questions about people who recently departed, rather than old or ancient spirits. I think the Melody character should have been Slimer instead, to feature him better. It would have also still make sense that Phoebe would befriend him.
@jointhemasquerade
@jointhemasquerade Месяц назад
@@ThereBeToys I'm not sure Slimer has the mental capacity to befriend/betray/help anyone tbh.
@ThereBeToys
@ThereBeToys Месяц назад
@@jointhemasquerade Garraka was supposed to be able to control and possess ghosts though, at least that's how I understood it.
@dawnmccarthy9741
@dawnmccarthy9741 13 дней назад
In My Opinion I Think The Studio Was Already Worried That The Movie Storyline Was Failing😮 So They Cut Some Scene's From The Movie And Especially From All The Trailers Because They Knew The Audience Would Be Looking For Them!👀 So Now The Studio Will Do The Directors Cut... 🙄 To Basically Make All Of Us (The Audience) Pay To See What Remains Hidden By The Studio😳 As Usual... It's All About The Money To Be Made!🤬
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