Gliders are gliders and you should treat them as gliders, not as raceplanes. Their long wingspan are not designed for acrobatics. WTF were you thinking?
Yup....I agree with you, you see these kind of shenanigans, with RC sailplanes fitted with turbine up and goes! Why these folks don’t just get jets is beyond me.
@@s9523pink Exactly. Now wait and see how many shenanigans will come here and attack you with 'it's a plane not a glider, propeller or motor, jet or not jet'. They like to contest their ignorance, and why? Well, how about if I said that they are poorly educated, 'no spikka da inglisha' dunces who seem to know that gliders are planes and that they HAVE to have an engine to be airborne, while the other intelligent and proper educated group will be aware that a glider is an aircraft designed for one purpose, to glide or soar into the uplift current and wind, and only towed by a powered aircraft to a certain height. But, the problem between the two groups is that, the uneducated group always seem to fight with the educated group to get them to accept that they are right - gliders are planes with motors, while the educated group know that they aren't planes, but gliders because they glide effortlessly into the air currents without motors, otherwise they aren't glider, nor called gliders. Glider = 1. a light aircraft that is designed to fly without using an engine. 2. a person or thing that glides. "the flying lemur is an efficient glider as well as climber" If an aircraft is flown with the help of engine under power, prop or jet, like an airplane, then that is no glider, that is an airplane, regardless of how long the wings are. Wait and see this debacle continuing to fire up between ignorant, 'no spikka da inglisha' illiterate group and a more sensible, intelligent and educated group. Here we go again.
Laugh emoji needed. Who couldn’t see that coming? This guy is likely really good with aerobatic planes. Glider wing configs, otoh, weren’t exactly designed to pull hard loops and snap rolls.
Viel schön flugzuegs. Es tut mir lit für mir deuscth. It a shame the comments don’t think so. But this the most beautiful plane I ever seen like the red bull jet gliders. the sound, the dives and rolls is so much fun to watch. Its a shame the wings failed but I think using similar construction to a dynamic soaring gilder might fix that issue.
More like Va. Wiki: Design maneuvering speed. This is the speed above which it is unwise to make full application of any single flight control (or "pull to the stops") as it may generate a force greater than the aircraft's structural limitations.
Not sure if Vne was exceeded, or he just exceeded the G limits when pulling up. Either way it was predictable given the style of aircraft (essentially a glider) and the speed he was flying it.
Well, at least we found VNe. Hope it got repaired quickly. One learns quickly that if you aren't willing to risk breaking something, then this isn't the hobby for you.
Andreas Ehlert es ist trotzdem absolut schade um das model. müsste diese belastungen eigentlich aushalten... ist mir selbst übrigens auch schon passiert bei einem etwas stärker motorisierten speeder. genau das gleiche, fläche durchgebrochen an den holmen... da hilft nur eins doppelt oder 3 fach kastenprofile rein aus carbon.
Andreas Ehlert wenn man ein opus v gesehen hat glaubt man dass alles möglich ist. Naja aber dieses modell war wirklich etwas größer und muss demnach noch mehr g aushalten und har noch mehr hebelwirkung. Kann man nichts machen außer das nächste modell ein bisschen ruhiger fliegen
Kann ja leider immer schon eine Vorbeschädigung vorhanden gewesen sein. ( Haarriss reicht ) Bei Extremspeed kleinste HR Ausschläge bei großen und schweren Modellen und sensibel den Knüppel bewegen.
auch ein Opus macht das nicht auf Dauer mit - konnte dies an einem Großflugtag heuer im Juli aus nächster Nähe miterleben, der extrem eckige & z.T: sehr brutale Flugstil ließ schon Schlimmes befürchten, es war der 1. Start am Samstag morgen, als Moderator wollte ich schon "beruhigen" - allein zu spät! Das Turbinenteil kam aus dem Sturz nicht mehr heraus & knallte einer Bombe gleich hinterm Platz ins angrenzende Feld - die Wucht war spürbar enorm, Teile der Tragflächen wurden nochmal zigmeter nach oben geschleudert....
No surprise there. No way that high aspect ratio wing could hold up to those g loads for long. Would have been fine if he would have used the throttle.
Großsegler mit Turbine sind echt genial anzusehen! hab ich schon genug Modelle gesehen die das standhalten. da reicht oft leider eine winzige Schwachstelle.. ein paar kleine Verstärkungen an den richtigen Stellen dann hält der nächste durch
Well, at least the fuselage landed gently, ish. So the REALLY expensive stuff probably survived... I was thinking putting an engine like that on a glider could make things tricky handling wise.
And failed to realize that it's a fkn glider, not an airplane. Gliders with engines are no longer called gliders but airplanes, regardless of wing span. Some people.
Sowas ist absolut unkontrollierbar, da auch viele Hersteller vorgeben ihre Flugmodelle sind Vollgas fest. Mir ging es mal mit einem Salto und Schübler Impeller ähnlich, dann im Tiefflug und bei 258 KM/H hat dann das Höhenruder aufegeben obwohl es ein voll CFK Flieger war. Das war dann auch nur noch ein Splitterhaufen in den Acker auf 50m verteilt. Schade aber immer posivtiv denken und dem Piloten weiterhin immer eine Handbreit Wind und der Tragfäche
Naja, "vollgasfest" und "sturzflugfest" sind schon zwei verschieden Paar Stiefel. Und "vollgassturzflugfest" wäre ein drittes ... Mich würde ja interessieren, ob der plötzliche "Haken" nach oben schon unvermeidbar war und bereits Ruderversagen am Werk war, oder ob der Pilot das erst durch eigenes brutales, pardon, unangemessenes Ziehen verursacht hat ...
Seems utter lunacy to me strapping a jet turbine ona glider to then do powered aerobatics. Just so unreal, shame about the destruction but lesson learnt perhaps?
Gliders are designed for efficient SLOW flight. Even the real ones can barely do 130 knots. This is like trying to break the land speed record in a shopping trolley. It's nuts.
How frikkin lazy and stupid are you mate. 30 seconds of online research will yield the evidence from reputable sources. Like for example that a JS full size glider can comfortably fly 180mph or that the world speed record for an rc plane is 548mph held by a dynamic soaring glider. I fly rc jets and gliders and regularly exceed 200mph. Yes I make no attempt not to be offensive because I have no time for keyboard experts who post crap online without knowing wtf they're talking about
@@francoisviljoen6239Be careful not to get your units mixed up Francois or you'll look like an angry fool. 180 mph is only 150 knots and that's about what I quoted. A JS has a VNE of 154 knots but most other sailplanes are down at 135 or 119kts. Once you have googled a few basics, you will find that in the world of aviation, 150kts is walking pace. How many knots does a Concorde or F14 do and what shape are they? They do not have high aspect ratio wings in high speed flight. Why not? I'm just saying that pushing a model glider at real glider speeds is pretty inefficient. If you want to go fast, use a fast design. Don't reply unless you have a polite comment.
I think there is nothing more beautiful than a turbine glider. If nobody tested borderlines in forces we wouldn't be flying today. Just look at history. Only, we should not do this when people on the ground even children are in danger. The max g-force should have been known and not put to the test here. Also pitty for the glider (speed-thermal-bird)
Zu stark hochgezogen und dann knallts hab ich selber gehabt 240kmh mit brushie erst platze der prop dann strief er ne Baum Krone wobei 50cm von 2m abgerissen sind und tschüss xD das ist das schönste am hobby wenn man Fehler macht und lernt deshalb mein lebens hobby :)
If it has a MOTOR then it is not a glider, otherwise anything with a motor that might glide, would be a glider. That includes an F4 on a 'bad' day. Designing, building, and flying with NO motor is TOTALLY different, and should be deemed, "Glider". Else, its a plane with good lift. And that's Cool....yet still a powered airplane. Power "off" is not the same as never designed for anything but silent LIFT.
Not quite. You can get powered gliders that are designed with a motor purely to take off and to maintain height when no thermals about. All aircraft can glide power off but only gliders and power gliders can stay up without an engine (on).
Too much power and weight, so obvious, and it's not elegant either. Why do this to a glider..?...just use a proper airframe for the job, ie NOT a Glider. Alternately, a considerably smaller engine. More money than brains.
würde der Pilot die sogenannte "feine Klinge" fliegen, den Segler hättz nie & nimmer zerrissen, aber bei dem Speed unter Vollast auch noch am Ruder reißen - also nee....
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Kein Wunder, dass es den zerrissen hat... was für ein Unsinn, auf einem Segler ein Jetantrieb zu schnallen und damit Mehrzeitenrollen zu fliegen! Dafür gibts wahrlich bessere Modelle. Das hier ist ungefähr so, wie mit einer F-104 in der Thermik fliegen zu wollen.
To me, this isn't really a glider. It just looks like one. I wonder if they did some serious test flying out in the middle of nowhere? With that, they could have established limits to stay within. Of course, that might not help if a control linkage failed or something. But if the problem was excess speed, test flying and staying within operating limits would have prevented it. I'm sure this kind of performance could be quite safe if enough care was taken with design, testing, maintenance, and operation. At least, as far as I can tell, it didn't fly towards the spectators at any point.
That would just have resulted in loss of the glider without the spectactle. What would you rather have? This is a strange "business", and spectacular failures are part of the buzz.
Aucune surprise ... ce pilote n'est qu'un plaisantin !!! vu la taille des ailes d'un planeur, y mettre une turbine est vraiment du n'importe quoi !!! normal que les ailes ne résistent pas à ,cette pression, pauvre idiot !!!
Viele Kommentare sind witzig. "Ich wusste das es passiert" oder "Segler sind nicht dafür ausgelegt" Es gibt da einen guten Spruch. "Wenn man keine Ahnung hat, einfach mal die Fresse halten".
