Gil's Arena Debates If Melo Could've Been BETTER Than LeBron

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Gil's Arena Debates If Carmelo Anthony Could've Been BETTER Than LeBron James as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew dive into the greatest what if in NBA History and discuss what would have happened if the Detroit Pistons picked Melo over Darko Militic in the 2003 NBA Draft and debate if his career could have ended up being better than LeBron's if he started off on a great team and got over the hump for an NBA Championship early in his career.
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@MrDiipp 7 дней назад

Saying Melo couldn’t average 20 when Tayshaun Prince was avg 15 is blasphemy!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

@LuQaBras1 7 дней назад

I dont know where yall are a getting 15 from he avg 10 on that championship team on 9 shots and making 4, whereas melo was taking 18 shots his rookie year and shot a worse percentage than tayshuan, so it’s easy to say melo wouldn’t avg 20 when you use logic.

@tellthetruthrightnow 7 дней назад

Melo with that Detroit would have been another dynasty. All that team needed was another bucket getter

@LuQaBras1 7 дней назад

@@tellthetruthrightnow like Gil said Melo would’ve been another harden on OKC or Manu on the Spurs, because of how Larry Brown would’ve used him. Rip was taking 15 shots and Chauncey and Rasheed were taking 13 and all three still had to play defense, so to think Melo would get anywhere close to the amount of shots they got on a Larry Brown team when he prioritized team and defense is crazy.

@xavierb9061 6 дней назад

Melo makes pistons worse. Now clear defensive weakness. Dont say offense, they have clear weakness in wallace. Changes team

@Raptor77. 6 дней назад

@@LuQaBras1he would’ve been harden for okc AT THE TIME .. but in 09 when they would’ve got rid of the ogs he would be solo and avg 25+ like what happened when harden went to houston

@cap536 7 дней назад

They should’ve had this debate with K Mart there….he played on Denver with Melo so he would know best

@Geronimo410 7 дней назад

I think they gone ask it again when he comes back because his answer would probably be the most valid

@devingibson4 7 дней назад

I’m mad wasn’t there. He woulda cussed Gil out.

@CubanDollThickness 6 дней назад

And Knicks

@mackvtv456 6 дней назад

It woulda took him ten minutes for three sentences

@YouReallyDontKnow 6 дней назад

@@devingibson4and he still wouldn’t be right. Melo wasn’t doing anything to be better than lebron. He just wasn’t on his level and couldn’t get there, period.

@TylerNicely 6 дней назад

Gil forgets Billups and Mello played together for his best playoff run. This may be the only time I agree with McCants

@naujud216 День назад

That and McCants is essentially describing what happened with Kawhi in San Antonio.

@vincentcortez4816 6 дней назад

This was a moronic move of the Detroit Pistons. Melo would've continued the dynasty and made them relevant after that 04 chip.

@quentonwillis3846 3 дня назад

The 04 team would have looked entirely different if they drafted Melo in 03 though. They would'nt have gotten Sheed and Prince likely wouldn't have developed the same.

@vincentcortez4816 3 дня назад

@@quentonwillis3846 This is a good take. But Sheed was going towards the last few years of his career. Prince development might've been affected the following year since Melo would've probably been the 6th knowing Coach Brown's philosophy.

@jordananthony5882 2 дня назад

@@quentonwillis3846Sheed was well established already. As for prince he would ha been alright. More like a kawhi role when he was with the spurs

@quentonwillis3846 День назад

@vincentcortez4816 I made a typo. I meant to say they would have gotten Sheed. If they draft Melo, they probably don't draft Josh Smith who they would trade to get Sheed. It becomes a very different team.

@quentonwillis3846 День назад

@jordananthony5882 I made a typo. I meant to say they would have gotten Sheed. If they draft Melo, they probably don't draft Josh Smith who they would trade to get Sheed. It becomes a very different team.

@georgehunter3498 7 дней назад

I can see Camelo breaking through like Kawhi did in San Antonio 💯

@clarencesmith467 7 дней назад

Yeah TP would of came off the bench if he had to very humble guys and knew how to win

@georgehunter3498 7 дней назад

Camelo came in the league a champion 💯The veterans on the team would’ve been better for him and his development

@edwardnigma9037 7 дней назад

Kawhi played defense well

@georgehunter3498 7 дней назад

@@edwardnigma9037 Camelo is a good defender also

@edwardnigma9037 7 дней назад

@@georgehunter3498 when he put in effort. That was barely

@andreandrews6237 7 дней назад

Gil trying to make it seem like Melo would have had to sit on the bench for a long time is nuts. Also he didn’t just up and develop his style in the league, he was incredible in isolation at Syracuse

@CORI4NDER 7 дней назад

not because of his skill necessarily but because of that coach, he woulda been a bench player for a couple years unfortunately

@jerryfrenchy4152 7 дней назад

Faces

@jerryfrenchy4152 7 дней назад

Facts*

@IVYLOC_ 7 дней назад

315

@johnsonrosario8293 7 дней назад

🧐Melo was already 🦾Melo when he🤔🏆won NCAA tournament championship🥱

@wiiz2780able 7 дней назад

No, because LBJ is LBJ. Melo is Melo ,simple

@Cantstopfactsbruh 4 дня назад

Casuals think melons inefficient points would make every team a championship 🤣🤣

@ShawnGillespie-s5p 2 дня назад

Facts he scored that much because he was the only scorer they think he was just out here making every shot no he was TAKING every shot

@MichiganHendough 56 минут назад

you thinking you know more than a person who played in the nba is hilarious lol.

@cspill99 7 дней назад

Melo working out with Sheed, Ben and Prince everyday. He would have been one of the best to every do it!

@absalompiankhitv 5 дней назад

On God 🙏🏿🤣

@user-lt1fx2he5s 5 дней назад

Because they would’ve taught him how to be a solid defender

@karu2995 4 дня назад

It wasn't about teaching it was desire. Melo didn't defend because he didn't want to.

@cspill99 4 дня назад

@karu2995 I never mentioned anything about defense. Offensively, he would have been training daily against three of the top big defenders in the league. Imagine the elevation of that.

@paulcoleman4663 4 дня назад

A Barkley with handles & a 3

@HappyfaceSinner 7 дней назад

I like how Gil doesn’t like to engage in hypotheticals but fully predicted Melos career in this experiment 😂😂😂

@NAS9088 7 дней назад

Was he a elite defender like every other top 10 player? But offense is what makes guys better😂😂

@thechosen1860 7 дней назад

Gil right… melo would’ve been harden

@jaybowman696 7 дней назад

😂😂😂😂

@TOoLoUd89292 7 дней назад

Just because he's going with the topic doesn't mean he has to go with the LeBron haters he's telling the truth

@ItsAhk2K 7 дней назад

Are you not realizing this whole question was hypothetical??????

@YZ4hunnid 6 дней назад

Detroit had NO SUCH EQUIVALENT of KD and Russ lol

@lefearfactor20 6 дней назад

All facts

@rakeldanell 4 дня назад

That was MY team... I got a video about it, and I agree.... we had NO such equivalent.

@Call_Me_Con 7 дней назад

Melo would have taken Prince’s spot the way Kobe took Eddie Jones spot. This the first time I’ve agreed with McCants

@djgarrett5377 6 дней назад

You want to know what separates Tatum from Luka? Defense. Melo was never going to be a good defensive player. Lebron does everything good.

@waltjones6927 6 дней назад

So you cool with ROOKIE Melo guarding PRIME Kobe in the finals??

@kennedy8926 4 дня назад

@@djgarrett5377Melo was a good defender when he tried or depending on the matchup. Wasn't the best or all NBA for sure, but wasn't bad when the effort was there.

@pathmark6081 День назад

No doubt it because Larry Brown was a prick

@GHOST91141 7 дней назад

Melo playing with Sheed, Big Ben, Rip, Billups & Prince could've made Melo a better leader & damn sure a better defensive player

@JohnSmith-sw9vq 6 дней назад

Plus being coached by Larry Brown would have definitely helped his game. That team would have been great.

@CodeSwift01 6 дней назад

Some people just don’t wanna do things that nigga melo only cared about the bag and putting the ball in hoop, I doubt he’d improve on defense that’ll might make it worse tbh

@TradingGzwithG 6 дней назад

Melo only played defense against 2 players, Lebron and Kobe. If you wasnt on his iso scoring level or superstar status he didnt play defense lol. He would lock Lebron up and give him 30

@vsioljones2549 6 дней назад

They wouldn’t have had Sheed yet. Pistons didn’t get sheed until Mid year and they went on to win the chip

@jsongz201 6 дней назад

@@TradingGzwithGthat’s facts lol

@oldbabeee-4250 7 дней назад

Gil tripping... Talking about he learned to score like that in Denver.. Lets not forget he took Syracuse to the championship and won.. This dude been a scorer before he came to the league

@iamkingknight 7 дней назад

Facts I was just saying this to myself he would’ve came into the league with a team winning mind set so saying he couldn’t come to Detroit and not be a killer and team player is crazy

@jaybee6892 7 дней назад

What if Bron went to Detroit buddy what would his career look like

@Ybthadreadhead 7 дней назад

@@jaybee6892the same exact way it is now.

@vincentemireles3794 7 дней назад

@@Ybthadreadheadstfu lmao ppl like you feed into dumb ass conversations like this

@sinbad5721 7 дней назад

@@Ybthadreadhead he would have 6 chips

@dellingtonarts3487 6 дней назад

Bruh said they "disintegrated" in 07 like the team got shot with an alien gun or something

@OFFISHAL_i20 6 дней назад

Carmelo Anthony was gone average 27 regardless of his teammates Melo is still Melo

@laurenmiles3303 7 дней назад

Melo didn't have a bad career he's top ten scoring all time... He should've won a Chip with one of those Denver teams. Melo is great.

@casualgamer4898 7 дней назад

no ones saying he had a bad career just not near lebron's level

@sirnamejames1992 7 дней назад

Thank you I won’t comment any further

@shinobu37 7 дней назад

He’s good not great

@pokerNGold 7 дней назад

Well said

@MARZOSIRUS 7 дней назад

Melo could have sacrificed a little money to join a better team like Detroit. He could have made up the money through endorsements. Just think about it this way. Michael Jordan damn near played for the minimum until late in his career. MJ chose to optimize his team over the NBA contract. So his off court endorsements shined because of his winning status as the greatest.

@chamdumba5666 7 дней назад

The past is not linear once I change one thing everything else changes

@dochouse_ 7 дней назад

ok yoda

@grayson7844 6 дней назад

@@dochouse_ lmaoooooooo

@Aaron-mm4hf 6 дней назад

True, Melo winning 3 ruins Kobe and Boston big 3 legacy. That's not happening. Lebron didn't win until 11-12 all that happens. Because Melo would still be alone.

@lawrence.peoples 6 дней назад

That dude said Melo was a 6’8 PG. 😂😂😂😂😂 And that Larry Brown would’ve let him cook, when we ALL KNOW Larry Brown didn’t even wanna play Bron, Wade and Melo in the Olympics. Let’s stop this shit.

@cordellbagley2269 6 дней назад

Melo in Detroit is also Kawahi in San Antonio.

@coryvictorian7230 4 дня назад

Don’t disrespect Melo like tht

@youngguado 3 дня назад

Not with Larry brown out there… y’all trippin

@cordellbagley2269 3 дня назад

@@youngguadoLarry Brown coached like Pop. Melo would have a Kawahi role when the big 3 were there. Then Brown would have to play Melo or trade him after his rookie deal was up.

@JesusSaves33011 2 дня назад

@@coryvictorian7230 prime Kawhi > Melo

@ShawnGillespie-s5p 2 дня назад

Still wouldn’t have had a better career than bron

@BlackMoneyMusic 7 дней назад

Gil missing the point Melo played at Cuse in an offense that he fit in, but stood out

@killakam8738 6 дней назад

No your missing the point like Mccants always does lol. Melo played in an offense that he just fit it, and still choose to do nothing but score. He would have never been anything like Harden no matter what. 61pts, 0 assist, 0 rebs, 0 blks and 0 steals ilwoth no defense is Gil's whole point. He wouldnt have had the shot Mccants thinks in Detroit because he would not have been the player Mccants just magically thinks he would have morphed into

@user-lt1fx2he5s 5 дней назад

@@killakam8738Detroit players would’ve made Carmelo a better 2 way player

@killakam8738 5 дней назад

@@user-lt1fx2he5s Sure but to Gils point. He wouldnt have been the Melo Mccants keeps trying to just plug inyo the Pistons. And how long would it have taken if at all??

@shawnskillz8808 13 часов назад

First of all Melo didn't have the ball in his hands 95% of the game as LeBron and Harden so of course they have a variety of more options to be efficient

@704jizzle2 7 дней назад

Even THE PISTONS PLAYERS SAID MELO WOULD HAVE BEEN THE #1 OPTION FROM DAY 1

@michaelscott2002 7 дней назад

Maybe 2nd to rip but Chauncey and Ty is out of the question

@TyShizzle121 7 дней назад

they can say that in hindsight but we see every season how different dynamics play out in real life

@back2back379 6 дней назад

Actually, Ben Wallace said he feels they would not have ever won a Championship if they drafted Melo because Melo was already a star and the chemistry would have been affected because Melo would have wanted more playing time. There's a reason there have been reports throughout Melo's career of him causing issues due to his selfishness, including from Chauncey Billups who stated Melo was too concerned with getting scoring numbers, that scoring was often more important to Melo than even winning the game. Larry Brown had Melo on the bench during the Olympics, and Melo basically discarded his medal. That's the kind of mindset and behavior that causes issues.

@redeyespyone 6 дней назад

@@back2back379Larry Brown should've played Melo. Maybe that's why they only won the bronze.

@Racoons4Change 6 дней назад

You have no receipts or sources e and this has 45 upvotes 😂 Ben Wallace just said Melo wouldn’t have worked. So did sheed.

@leeloot6243 7 дней назад

McCants slogan “Move tf around”

@jamiehurling9544 6 дней назад

Good conversation fellas

@foshenthepanhandlechampion8189 7 дней назад

LeBron has had a larger responsibility other than scoring the ball

@_ThatOneServant 6 дней назад

And he still scored alone with having to facilitate and guard

@iunderstanphotography2780 4 дня назад

i was looking for this comment Lebron isn't all offense

@majormontega 7 дней назад

Melo with that nightmare defence around him would’ve been crazy, wonder if they still get Sheed tho 🤔

@HakeemTheDream616 7 дней назад

Exactly that whole team would've been different

@ericclatterbuck6633 7 дней назад

They would not get Rashedd

@jrelgran1on1 6 дней назад

They're still cold without Sheed Prince could've been very serviceable at the four.

@DoctorDayWalker503 6 дней назад

8:04 SOMEONE LET OFF A HUGE SNEEZE🤣🤣🤣

@mellomadeitright2802 7 дней назад

Kenyon should have been here for this topic.

@josedelacruz256 7 дней назад

I agree with McCants. Melo’s career would have been very different with some rings.

@tedlessor3887 5 дней назад

His whole game would be different because of those guys.

@TreeEl-gp2tx 7 дней назад

That Pac n Biggie shirt is 🔥

@Ran_Ryaz 7 дней назад

Michael Jackson riding backseat

@johnnguyen6469 7 дней назад

Nah those guys have long been gone from the face of this earth, led a very violent lifestyle and paid the ultimate price

@jojor2917 7 дней назад

@@johnnguyen6469shut up Chinese boy

@bigfish6742 7 дней назад

@@johnnguyen6469so should he wear a shirt with a bunch of rockstars that died of heroin overdoses

@johnnguyen6469 7 дней назад

@bigfish6742 no he should not. Wearing shirts to glorify drug use and gang violence? Why? Those men have been gone for like three decades now, it’s time to move on

@Gucci2Glocks 6 дней назад

lol the thought of Melo with the braids coming off the bench just don’t sit right with me😂

@Raptor77. 6 дней назад

Gil really disproved his own theory with the James harden example he gave😂

@NathanR2D2 7 дней назад

But he didn’t. End of discussion

@Kikibrat2 7 дней назад

☠

@nigeljohnson7919 7 дней назад

I be hating hypotheticals but then well have pod #imisstheszn

@drewland6140 7 дней назад

Lebron has no bag 😂😂😂😂

@snupedummy 7 дней назад

Your no fun at parties

@maisonmargielademon2915 7 дней назад

@@drewland61404 championships 4 MVPs for the guy with “No bag” sounds pretty amazing too me

@PhillyFan477 7 дней назад

Gil funny af. 😂😂 He know damn well he wrong.

@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 7 дней назад

Per usal

@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu 7 дней назад

No he not. It's a what if, the coach at the time is the factor.

@YouReallyDontKnow 6 дней назад

How is he wrong?? Anyone who thinks Melo would’ve been a better player than lebron is just plain stupid 😂

@stanleed.harold5457 6 дней назад

@@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yuBrown was Iverson's coach

@stanleed.harold5457 6 дней назад

@@YouReallyDontKnowjust better. LeBron is not really a part of this

@ronelldeadrick9252 6 дней назад

The 09 nuggets were deep af. I hate when they say he never played with anyone

@cornellcuffey1894 4 дня назад

Lol Gil literally answered his own question at the end… Melo would have been Kobe. Got the early rings, then when the original 04 team leaves, Melo takes off. Same career path as Kobe

@demonofpurgatory5188 7 дней назад

A ball hog vs a play that can do it all with extreme athleticism

@drewland6140 7 дней назад

Lebron has no bag and check his usage rate ….Lebron definitely a ball hog just pass when he runs out of ideas

@mjg6233 7 дней назад

@@drewland6140I checked his usage rate. It’s less than Michael Jordan. No bag ? Buddy he create moves . Bank three fades and all. and run a 4 5 at 260

@dochouse_ 7 дней назад

@@mjg6233go watch football

@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 7 дней назад

I guess Jordan a ball hog to

@lucianodadon7822 7 дней назад

That had to team up with other niggas to create super teams

@BTAKVE 7 дней назад

If he could have been he would have been. LeBrons passing, IQ, and willingness to play defense made the difference

@shawnskillz8808 2 дня назад

Don't forget that LeBron played with 10 hall of famers in his career, Melo never had that cushion

@ShawnGillespie-s5p 2 дня назад

@@shawnskillz8808that still doesn’t change the fact that Bron play style is more all around than Melo, even take away Brons accomplishments he’s still more than Melo

@CaliPaliGuy 7 дней назад

I'm going to like this barber shop talk not that the season is over. I like the stories

@josemariepacia4558 6 дней назад

Melo can unlock his skills on defense and being a team player if he was drafted in Detroit. It's like GIL is saying that he won't learn anything if he was with high IQ players. That does not make sense at all. Surrounding yourself with high IQ players make you a more dynamic player. Think about it GIL.

@user-kv5bl4db8e 7 дней назад

The Melo disrespect is crazy. Melo was averaging 25 on any team is Gil dumb or did he forget who melo is

@anthonylockhart6120 7 дней назад

Melo average more than 25 the highest he average was 28ppg

@704jizzle2 7 дней назад

GIL dumb

@TOoLoUd89292 7 дней назад

Points don't always equate to championships y'all casuals say anything like this is 2k or something 😂

@casualgamer4898 7 дней назад

out the bench and different systems require sacrifices to win a ring Hebron could've averaged 30 in his prime but didn't and won rings

@user-kv5bl4db8e 7 дней назад

@@TOoLoUd89292 no you a clown tryna overthink to sound smart. Carmelo on the pistons roster is automatically they best scorer and with that team he would of won chips. It’s very simple. I been watching basketball all my life you casual

@flexermc4333 7 дней назад

Bron got a possibly worse team than Melo and had to carry the cavs for 7 years. And still he was a 2 time MVP in that poor roster.Melo never better than Bron

@TheBilalUddin 7 дней назад

in th ecf melo made the plkayoffs EVERY YEAR IN THE WEST

@deyontaewilkerson5886 7 дней назад

Thank you!!😂 Lebron was carrying bums and still thrived

@amirmoney3221 7 дней назад

lebron left the Cavs remember that

@Steveooter 7 дней назад

How old was bron when he did that? And what they talking about rookie Melo - year 3,4 ?

@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 7 дней назад

Roster wasn't poor

@phyllisbullet 6 дней назад

why gil acting like melo didn’t play basketball before the nba🤣

@Higharcent 6 дней назад

“Tony Parker ginobli melo” got me 😂

@DonnaGarcia-ul6ke 7 дней назад

You're a natural, keep doing what you do

@CFREUp 7 дней назад

Gil is 100% wrong, and for no reason 💯

@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 7 дней назад

As always just a big goofy

@stanleed.harold5457 6 дней назад

He stay 🧢🧢🧢🧢🤡💀🤷🤦

@karletonmcbride8083 6 дней назад

@@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 you a goofy yoself

@1big30czhk 4 дня назад

Bro how y’all gone have this discussion without Kenyon and he played with him on two teams!!!! That’s crazy 😂😂

@WareWolf831 6 дней назад

It’s not real till Rashad say “Move the Fuck Around “ 😂😂😂

@NCOMBHOODIE 7 дней назад

imma say this and imma lebron fan . it would’ve been more of a debate if melo got drafted to Detroit .

@solo2778 7 дней назад

I think so to. Melo with those vets would've been different

@TOoLoUd89292 7 дней назад

You don't have to say I'm a LeBron fan the real fans don't even say that because we know basketball and how it's played. Selfish players don't go far in the league

@johnnguyen6469 7 дней назад

It’s not just about melo being selfish but the fact he didn’t work in his body enough like lebron did to really separate himself

@phatch5444 7 дней назад

Lebron winning a chip on that Denver team. He’d defer to his vets hte said so himself.

@NCOMBHOODIE 7 дней назад

@@TOoLoUd89292 your right about the fan part . i just don’t wanna come off as tho im hating wen in reality i been a lebron fan since i was 5 years old .

@christurner2684 7 дней назад

Melo had the talent to be but not the mentality, drive,and determination to be better than Bron

@mjg6233 7 дней назад

No tf he didn’t

@FrozeBone 7 дней назад

He didn't have Lebrons level of talent either.

@jmu76featuring61 7 дней назад

Thats the point tho..off the bench rookie year w those guys leading him..his mentality would of been different for sure

@anthonylockhart6120 7 дней назад

Melo was a better scorer than lebron @@FrozeBone

@Sausedeez5666 7 дней назад

That's a negative

@donmarquis08 6 дней назад

Convo would’ve been great with k mart perspective on this

@Lilbro901 2 дня назад

I'm tired of people thinking championships make you the better player. Put LeBron on the Detroit team and they'd have at least a 3 peat

@maximusbenjamin8077 7 дней назад

Gil acting like melo wasn’t always gonna be melo, all Gil gotta do is look at his career, came in not playing but did his thing in the minutes he got then eventually got to a situation where he could do him, only difference is melo on Detroit would’ve potentially made melo a champion unlike Gil with the warriors and melo development with them vets would’ve been nice

@bk2az1 7 дней назад

Good discussion!! But there’s far too many other factors to consider….like CHEMISTRY… Chemistry with the coach…and with teammates. It makes a difference

@lionface1364 6 дней назад

This is a great question regardless of which side of the debate you support.

@ricoeab2 2 дня назад

Come on yall, we can say "if"!! Thats like saying "if" my Auntie had nuts she'd be my uncle! 😂

@IsaiahEss-uq4yv 7 дней назад

McCants making some sense for once

@stanleed.harold5457 6 дней назад

He's way better than gil lately

@iamnaimtheartist 7 дней назад

Gil also not remembering that Melo had a bad relationship with Carl. With a better coach we don’t know how great he’d be

@thomaschapman6088 6 дней назад

But you’re still comparing him to Lebron. Everything you’re saying about Melo can be said about Lebron too. Melo had a better coach and players early in his career.

@PrinceDJj 6 дней назад

Why are they trying to argue which one is wrong when this whole debate is hypothetical? Nobody knows what Melo would have been with the Pistons. He could have won three titles, and by year three, he could have been the focal point of the team. Rashad has a point, and so does Gil. You are both right. There are no wrongs in a hypothetical. That's why you can't argue hypotheticals because nobody knows what would have happened.

@marcelljackson2868 6 дней назад

I'm on McCants side on this one I think Melo would have been fine coming off the bench early in his career. I think brown would have found a way to get him involved in the offense

@jaybee6892 7 дней назад

Stupid conversation, what if Lebron went to Detroit

@thetruth14444 6 дней назад

4 CHIPS EASY

@obadiahalonzo1288 6 дней назад

That would have been Crazy

@rakeldanell 4 дня назад

I cry thinking about the pick we made that year. Tears.

@mowilliams8511 4 дня назад

Detroit had a opportunity to take melo #2 in the 03 draft instead they draft a big goofy name Darko . LeBron went first so they couldn't take LeBron..

@617boston6 7 дней назад

This is a question for kenyan. I think he would have more insight

@bw6291 7 дней назад

People forget Melo was the real Rookie of the year. He definitely wouldve been a thorn in Bron side had he been drafted to the Pistons

@mr.r4910 6 дней назад

And you're on crack he would've been better than kobe

@Maja-hs5pd 6 дней назад

Agreed same thing happened a year or 2 after with Ben Gordon and emaka okafor

@tkhannibal2476 5 дней назад

McCants making sense. Has everyone shook rn 😂😂

@sylanderhopkins6665 7 дней назад

McCants just want ppl to move around 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@corpyhogan4433 7 дней назад

You have to remember the gap between LeBron and Carmelo isn't just about skill. Carmelo by all accounts is more skilled than LeBron, but LeBron has a better work ethic.

@yinkz15 7 дней назад

I disagree , melo just has a better jumper everything else id give to Bron

@raymondsims7042 6 дней назад

@@yinkz15agreed

@OGE585 5 дней назад

@@raymondsims7042agreed

@something2consider783 5 дней назад

Melo was not more skilled than LeBron. Melo's handles were weak. Definitely, he could not guard one through five like LeBron in his prime. Further, he could not go coast to coast. Melo had a half-court game.

@raymondsims7042 5 дней назад

@@something2consider783 for some reason casuals don’t count defense as a skill🤷‍♂️

@kausing_kommotion 7 дней назад

Rashad that shirt is 🔥🔥🔥

@slogrofitness5041 3 дня назад

McCants gets so animated anything against Bron lol

@HakeemTheDream616 7 дней назад

This is one of the all-time great what if's in NBA history lol

@djgarrett5377 6 дней назад

For real haha. Got me asking “what if Lebron went to the Spurs?”

@LuckyShowTime 7 дней назад

Melo in Detroit wins 2-3 rings and they would’ve built a team around him after Rip and Chillups got older.

@jaybee6892 7 дней назад

What if Bron went to Detroit buddy what would his career look like

@LuckyShowTime 7 дней назад

@@jaybee6892 😂😂😂 Gund wasn’t taking nobody but Bron in 03. I woulda took Melo first bc of what he did at Syracuse but that’s just me.

@xavierb9061 6 дней назад

0 rings, changes team hes weak defender.

@LuckyShowTime 6 дней назад

@@xavierb9061 You REALLY think Big Ben, Sheed, Rip, Chillups, Mike Curry, Lindsey Hunter, Mike James, and even Tayshaun woulda let Melo get by w/o playing defense? 😒😒😒😒😒

@xavierb9061 6 дней назад

@@LuckyShowTime why did they win defense. Now him prince splitting minutes throws off focus. Melo prob traded, this is aft4 brown left iverson

@siptang81 7 дней назад

For once I 100% agree with Rashad lmao

@damonwhitaker4696 6 дней назад

Cant believe this is a debate

@llASTROII 7 дней назад

Melo was in a better situation in denver when Bron was in Cleveland to start their career. Melo chose money over winning its that simple

@anthonylockhart6120 7 дней назад

Melo was in a tougher Western conference while lebron was in a weaker eastern conference

@jctslice 7 дней назад

@@anthonylockhart6120 when they were young, the East wasn't weak at all. In fact, in LeBron's first 6 years, an East team won the title 3 times. This narrative gets overblown with not enough facts to back it up

@OtbPrezy 7 дней назад

@@jctslicea east team won this year does that not make the East a weak conference still?

@denjiurameshi4699 7 дней назад

@@jctslice The East has been the weaker conference.You left out how the West won 7 of those titles of that decade. Even if you look at that specific time frame you used. How many MVP players was in that conference? How many players from the East were selected to all-nba teams those years compared to West players?

@jctslice 7 дней назад

@@OtbPrezy if an East team wins the title, conference strength is irrelevant because you beat both conferences

@MikeStew07 7 дней назад

You can't do hypocriticals because it's endless. Melo goes to Detroit, then the entire draft changes. Year after year.

@sportingarena6462 7 дней назад

Best comment I’ve seen so far. The butterfly effect

@BattleTruth 7 дней назад

Miami heat would have zero championships

@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu 7 дней назад

@@BattleTruth maybe

@thomaschapman6088 6 дней назад

Miami only lost to the piston in Wades 2nd year because he got injured.

@BambooAssassin День назад

Melo was always going to be melo 27 points no assist and 3 rebounds nothing was going to change that

@eatswithbearzz32 4 дня назад

Skills don't matter without stats, makes me think of the Lamar Odom conversation. All the skills with average stats

@thetarheel2010j 7 дней назад

Also not sure how Melo and Larry Brown would have mixed. Larry was oooolllldddd school… so I understand what Gil is saying… Larry would have definitely had Melo coming off the bench… I also don’t think that they understand what Gil is saying… someone is gonna have to sacrifice. James wasn’t gonna be able to dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble with KD and Russ. This a great conversation. Some consider James one of the best scorers in NBA history. Do we see that games if he’s playing with Russ and Durant??

@vincentbrown3995 4 дня назад

Melo handles never been weak lol. What do u watch. Lebron has no handle lol. He just runs through you. Yall say anything

@eamorrison859 7 дней назад

I get what Gil is saying. Melo's mindset would've changed because of the culture. He wouldn't have turned into the self player because that wasn't the culture in Detroit.

@TyShizzle121 7 дней назад

people just missing the point because we know what the finished product looks like. if he's coming into a championship contender its a completely different dynamic than him automatically getting the keys like in Denver. that team wouldn't even call for him to score 20 until a player or two is traded or let go.

@alod247 6 дней назад

@@TyShizzle121 That team needed a scorer bad. Melo would’ve been exactly what they needed. And he would’ve been the best player on the team by the end of the season

@TyShizzle121 6 дней назад

@@alod247do you really think it’d just be that easy? Between how Gil said the coach wasn’t in favor of younger players and just the stars already there having egos I promise it wouldn’t go that smoothly. We see every season how egos and stuff derail or just flat out change teams.

@DexbeGaming 6 дней назад

Both sides sound possible all I can say great debate no answer but great discussion

@bodine113 6 дней назад

@@alod247no they didn’t lol

@BIGMIKE-mk9ce 6 дней назад

What the fuck is Gilbert arenas talking about😂😂😂😂😂

@wUnknownPerson 6 дней назад

The fact that this is even a debate pisses me off, Carmelo would’ve never been better then lebron, while melo was know for primarily being a scorer, LeBRON is the best all around player of all time who can go out there and get you 30PTS 10+ REBOUNDS 10+ ASSIST on any giving night. This is blasphemy, but I’m not surprised most of the guys on this show are lebron haters as most people are😂😂

@Jukeboxster 7 дней назад

I don't understand the question. Melo had a long career, he had 100% control of his ability to be better and he wasn't. Could he have racked up some championships playing for Detroit? Sure but team accomplishments don't make a player better than another. I guess they mean could he have had a better *career*? Still no but championships for Melo would've put him in some interesting conversations.

@matheobavogui7493 6 дней назад

This right there. I don't think they even understand what they are about. Melo was not better than Bron coming into the draft. So yeah, Give him 3 rings and 3 finals MVP in Detroit and he is still not a better player.

@YR_Killem 7 дней назад

Brandon jennings sassy af lmao

@reef9084 6 дней назад

I’m not the only one that see it. His mannerisms and how he move his head when he argues. Always judging men outfits

@professorzoom4467 6 дней назад

😂😂

@coreyrees840 6 дней назад

Needed K mart for this one

@tempus6280 6 дней назад

Same could be said of Bron didn’t get drafted by Cleveland

@TOoLoUd89292 7 дней назад

Look at mccants ready to diminish LeBron 😂 Man we know what type of player Melo is as a player. He had Kmart and A.i. and didn't get it done he didn't pass the ball enough.

@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 7 дней назад

Lebron had Shaq & multiple all stars

@TOoLoUd89292 7 дней назад

@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 every star y'all try to glaze he played with besides Ad and Kyrie were past their primes and Dwade was on the decline. Y'all haters say anything

@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 7 дней назад

@@TOoLoUd89292 past his prime wade almost won mvp the year before , melo never had the star power lebron had

@TOoLoUd89292 7 дней назад

@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 man y'all casuals say anything. Can't just put players together and think it'll work. This isn't 2k and I bet you were the same one that thought KD harden and Kyrie was going to work when it clearly wasn't even Luka and Kyrie didn't work. LeBron knows how to win with guys and he's probably have more had his so called star power showed up example y'all say Kevin love but he shows up with 6 points in a game 5 SMH but that's star power y'all say Shaq when he was coming off the bench being a liability more than what he was with Kobe. C'mon y'all casuals say anything cause y'all are mad at FACTS

@user-en5er4fq2m 7 дней назад

Lebron had better teammates than everyone in a weak conference.: get off his nutssck

@Rellprice4 7 дней назад

When Rashad is making more sense then you know you’re tripping .. Hiibachi’s ego will Not let him be wrong and I respect it 😂

@djgarrett5377 6 дней назад

Depends on what you’re arguing. Yea Melo could have been a better player if drafted by the Pistons but better than Lebron? C’mon. That’s pretty much saying Melo would have been the GOAT because there’s only one player that has an argument over Lebron. Lebron has 40000 points and 10000 rebounds/assists. Melo ain’t getting that no matter who he’s drafted by. Y’all tripping just like Mcants.

@mr.r4910 6 дней назад

You know what he would've made more sense if they said Carmelo would've been better than jordan or kobe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@csouth89 2 дня назад

Gil is basing Melo not playing on Darko which is a mistake. I'm from Detroit and they would show clips of Darko in practice where he just wasn't ready for the NBA. Players pushing him out to make rotations. He was lost, that's on of the biggest reasons he didn't play. Melo might not have started, but would have played significant minutes as a rookie and made the Pistons that much better.

@chriswil5919 День назад

He probably would’ve started .. Tay probably would’ve been coming off the bench 6man .. Or Melo could’ve been that scoring 6man 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Being_Water 6 дней назад

Gil tripping. Melo would still get buckets on that Detroit team 😂. That trajectory would’ve been insane because he would’ve been a better defensive player also being around those guys.

@shottafps 7 дней назад

Gil is obviously intelligent, but I hate when he plays dumb just for the sake of engagement. Like, we’re gonna watch regardless. Stop saying “you’re doing hypotheticals” in one breath, then use hypotheticals in the next. McCants won this - get your feet in the bodybag, Gil.

@casualgamer4898 7 дней назад

never heard anyone say Melo over or close to lebron when he was still in the league now everyone in the comments picking Melo lol why do people increase your rank when you retire or die

@selfawarepotassium 7 дней назад

It’s just contrarianism. No one with any basketball knowledge ever suggested Melo was more talented than Bron through his whole career. Because it’s a ridiculous thing to say. Thats not an insult to Melo, Bron is a top 2 player of all time.

@user-ow7qv8nq6t 6 дней назад

Oh you must be young lmao Melo at 1 point was the guy 😂

@mr.r4910 6 дней назад

I know they are LITERALLY trying to crowbar kobe in the goat conversation soooooooo bad 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@selfawarepotassium 6 дней назад

@@user-ow7qv8nq6tI’m the same age as Lebron. No he wasn’t.

@stanleed.harold5457 6 дней назад

Melo had a better rookie year and 2nd year melo was a better scorer for 5 years

@yj9507 6 дней назад

See Gil arguing bout the stats the whole time 😂 when they had the skillet to adapt to whatever style lol

@MrTakeYaHxxe 8 часов назад

talk to em GIL✅✅

@LaMar34_34 7 дней назад

Melo isn’t a better player than Lebron

@raymondsims7042 6 дней назад

Not even close

@jkassh9743 6 дней назад

When Melo was drafted he went into a better situation than Bron and always had the better team ( his first stint in Cleveland ) and didn’t do anything. He had every chance to have a better career and choose not to🤷🏽

@vincentbrown3995 4 дня назад

Except he had to go through the spurs and lakers who were winning championships every year

@user-po9vs7kp3n 11 часов назад

He went to a 19 win team on the west. Hardly a better situation. Also Melo took Denver to the playoffs every year he was there. Lebron didnt.