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How to kick start a Harley

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@charleshodge1873
@charleshodge1873 9 лет назад
This woman has a lot of spirit. You have to admire her for not giving up.
@kenrutherford1109
@kenrutherford1109 11 месяцев назад
It took her about a hundred tries to start the moped
@brokenratshet9805
@brokenratshet9805 6 лет назад
If I had her energy I wouldn't be sitting on my couch watching this right now. Good for her.
@bobferkle8413
@bobferkle8413 8 лет назад
I'll admit I started to watch this for amusement but as the video went on, I found myself becoming invested in the heroic struggle and cheered with her at the end ~ :)
@tomduncan1970
@tomduncan1970 10 лет назад
That young lady is a trooper!!! Never gave up. I don't know her but.... I am sure proud of her!!! Thanks for sharing this awesome video.
@taxedtodeath3610
@taxedtodeath3610 7 лет назад
I have been kicking for many years too. The best way I have found is to put you left knee on the seat, keep the bars turned towards the kick stand (a longer kickstand would have probably helped her), and once you're on compression stroke you can put weight on the knee to raise your body up high and then get a full body kick with all the ass you got! I had a pan shovel that was printed, balanced, ported, polished and a big cam kit. It ended up being around 82 cubic in (I could be off. I can't remember for some stupid reason...oh, age!) straight piper and 4 speed with baker/timpken inerds. She was a very high compression and was a bitch...she literally had her time of the month and would severely piss me off! After the 472nd kick on a cold morning she would light up and throw flames! She had a taller 4th gear and could run about 80 without being rapped out but first gear...I was never beat, even by ricers, never beat from the line to about 40mph! Once I banged second gear that was it...my buddies would love to get me in races at the bar. Guys on their $50k baggers would laugh at my police special/ special construction, It looked like a crodd between Dennis Hopper and Henry Fonda's bikes. Very mechanical and you see all the working parts, wires, mouse trap, lines, etc. They liked the bike and would be blown away (literally) of how quick the bike was...I got many of beers from that old girl. I miss her too... Fucking wahhhhh...long ass story, My bad! I started typing and brought out some cool memories...just like this good looking woman will have for the rest of her life. cheers🍻
@teequegaming6447
@teequegaming6447 2 года назад
4 years later I'm reading this! Hell yeah man, wishing you good health and hopefully I brought you back to some cool memories 4 years later :) cheers boss
@thomasscrews7615
@thomasscrews7615 6 лет назад
Girl i use to ride an old iron head and i am proud of you for not giving up.
@redrider1940
@redrider1940 9 лет назад
My '72 XLCH was one of the hardest bikes to kick that I have ever owned. It even threw me up about over the bars a couple of times. Bless her determination.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 9 месяцев назад
I still have a buggered knee from a 74 Ironhead back in 1980
@jeromebreeding3302
@jeromebreeding3302 5 месяцев назад
I can relate brother, I had a 72 CH myself. It took a stout leg to start it, but provided it was in tune, never had problems kickn her over, of course lighter oil was required during the winter.
@seththomas9105
@seththomas9105 7 лет назад
Any woman that will kick over a iron head sportster has my respect. Get after it miss!
@isabelolague863
@isabelolague863 6 лет назад
Seth Thomas I put my knee on the seat
@F_the_T
@F_the_T 9 лет назад
This is awesome, her smile when it starts is the best
@sandros949
@sandros949 8 лет назад
you don't get to hear those "Fuck Yeah's" from electric starters...
@nateand3
@nateand3 2 года назад
She's awesome. She never gave up. I love the screen when she fired it up
@scottthomas9043
@scottthomas9043 2 года назад
I love a girl that can ride, and not just any girl can kick over a Harley. Girl you've got all my respect and nothing but wishing you bright sunny days to ride for the rest of your days! Way to go girl!🤘
@midnightmc3096
@midnightmc3096 11 месяцев назад
Not just "any Harley" -- a knee-breaker Harley: the feared Ironhead.
@johnbeckman3515
@johnbeckman3515 5 месяцев назад
Girls ride on the back
@davidhall8874
@davidhall8874 6 лет назад
Hell yeah! She's got more balls that a lot of guys trying that! I tried that thirty years ago and it broke the metal support in the bottom of my boot.
@denro0
@denro0 9 лет назад
She will get better as time goes by...she just needs to eat more cornbread.
@andrewmccarthy4144
@andrewmccarthy4144 6 лет назад
I thought she was going to give up. Glad she didn't. Back before electric starters, we used to straddle the bike (well, not every bike), jump up and then we could put our full weight into the downstroke. Of course if you didn't time it right, you could get sent for a ride.
@Johnny-df4di
@Johnny-df4di 3 года назад
Or worse sportser knee. ....but she knew how to get possible tdc.
@NismOzzy
@NismOzzy 8 лет назад
She never gave up, good for her.
@it426
@it426 8 лет назад
Pretty sure I heard that ol' ironhead laughing at her like mine used to laugh at me! Great vid!
@joshfrancis2175
@joshfrancis2175 9 лет назад
Ok so is nobody gonna tell her to throw a leg over it. Who showed her that awkward technique. Glad she got it figured out.
@AndyStapleton
@AndyStapleton 9 лет назад
you don't throw your leg over ,so you dont get that huge bruise on the inside of your thigh....
@kct9967
@kct9967 9 лет назад
Ive been using that "awkward technique" for almost 40 years.
@taxedtodeath3610
@taxedtodeath3610 7 лет назад
Its not a dirt bike, These are high compression V twin short stroke motors! They don't just kick over, you have to put your ass into it and mean it! It looks awkward but its the most effective way...there is a better way that I found but its close to this
@MrHarleyoldfart
@MrHarleyoldfart 7 лет назад
Josh, I agree, so many people have tis fascination of standing at the side of the bike, I always stand astride the bike, if you stand at the side the bike tends to want to lean with you, I did stand on the left when my Morini had a kickstart on the left, I couldn't co-ordinate my left leg to work being astride the bike, it's just so easy if your astride.
@MrHarleyoldfart
@MrHarleyoldfart 7 лет назад
taxed to death, this is definitely not the most effective way, if you stand at the side when you put your weight on the kicker the bike comes off the stand and leans towards you, this doesn't happen if you straddle the bike.
@PoliticalPuppet
@PoliticalPuppet 6 лет назад
3/17/2018 168 people have never tried to kick start anything. Nice work sticking to it. Thumbs up!
@bubblesbutterfly1235
@bubblesbutterfly1235 3 года назад
I’m crying happy tears 😭😭😭😭😭 I tried and tried to start our lawn mower..... never been able to do it. I feel like such a failure. I’m so happy for this young woman. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ that is the true spirit of an unfailing warrior😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
@craik7
@craik7 7 лет назад
never turn it off again
@mrcoltar15
@mrcoltar15 9 лет назад
the problem is the jeans were too tight, I see this happen a lot, she needs to be wearing a thong to get the full stroke and be able to follow through with the kick. please have her try it again in the appropriate starting gear and post. thanks
@gumgumgumilar9396
@gumgumgumilar9396 8 лет назад
Hell yeah....!!! Agree...!!
@davidflora1622
@davidflora1622 8 лет назад
+gumgum gumilar fuck yeah
@davidflora1622
@davidflora1622 8 лет назад
+gumgum gumilar fuck yeah
@davidflora1622
@davidflora1622 8 лет назад
fuck yeah
@richardmann800
@richardmann800 7 лет назад
why ... is that how you do it?
@williamruss9836
@williamruss9836 6 лет назад
Welcome to old school. Now I just hit the starter button. No bloody shins or trips over the handle bars. Lmfao
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn 8 лет назад
My hat is off to this young lady. I thought she was way too light for the job. She must create her own gravity.
@thomasforesman3978
@thomasforesman3978 7 лет назад
I don't think you mean creating her own gravity. Gravity is gravity. I think you mean; she sould learn how make her body into a whip with her leg as the end of the whip and using the power of the bikes compression ratio to assist in the countering force!!!! I agree with you though that she is a little on the light side and those stupid motocross boots weren't helping either. My hat is off too for her!!! If I ever run into her I will buy her a beer. Great video, Never Gave Up!!! Never Quit, Never Die, Kick Ass American Spirit!!!! God Bless and Semper Fidelis
@stephanieg422
@stephanieg422 6 лет назад
Yeah that's why both her legs are on one side, more weight.
@lvl--cp2687
@lvl--cp2687 10 лет назад
was anybody else hoping when she started to freak out and scream fuck yeah that it would have turned off lol
@MsJadenjones
@MsJadenjones 10 лет назад
WHEW HEW! Way to go girl! Im a girl about your size and Im thinking of buying an old 73 Iron head with a kick start..Pain in the ass but damn makes you feel good when you get it started!( I love a challenge!) I just hope I have the endurance to keep going! lol
@guardianobserver6593
@guardianobserver6593 3 года назад
Have you bought your moto? Are you happy?
@greyriddance64
@greyriddance64 5 лет назад
Considering that several of my friends had issues getting my 125cc kick started... she's awesome! ❤
@kurts7913
@kurts7913 4 года назад
In my younger days..all my buds and I seemed to have just kick starts...I (Army)had a cantankerous 1974 Norton 850, one bud (Navy)a 900 Kaw and the other..an old Jarhead a 1969 Iron head with Magneto...all 3 Nam Vets. We would take rides out to a lake qwe liked and sat on a Bar Deck for a sandwich and beer. The Youngsters came in with bikes that had rear tires a foot and a half wide and dragging the ground. When we got ready to leave, they would stand on the deck and watch us start our bikes. All they could do was to shake their heads as they had NO kick start on their garage beauties so no Motorcycle ZEN. The last to start was almost always the Iron Head...He worked the beer off but the sweet sound when it light... I have all the respect for this Lady...No ass to her yet she flogged it to submission. He still has the Iron Head and I still have the Norton...though we both ride other Harleys most of the time, When he feels friskie..he kick up the IH and I end up ripping the inside right leg of a pair of well worn jeans kicking the Norton.
@TheChainzzzz
@TheChainzzzz 10 лет назад
That was cool.. She never gave up.. Most guys woulda been too whooped to ride after all that.. Old School..Nothing sounds better.. When ya can get them to start..
@artmchugh5644
@artmchugh5644 5 лет назад
TheChainzzzz nothing sounds better ? When it finally started it sounded like EVERY OTHER OBNOXIOUS STRAIGHT PIPED PIECE OF SHIT. I have ever been subjected to. Only a self centered asshole would ride this wreck around .
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 4 года назад
She was using the typical rookie cross-legged kick which robs you of downward force and momentum, that's the worse way to try and kick a bike. Someone didn't tell her she had bad form. Bike sounds like shit too. Work smarter not harder. She gets no sympathy points from me. lol
@brianfairchild7819
@brianfairchild7819 3 года назад
@@artmchugh5644 you say that like its a bad thing. gonna get that on my business cards "Self Centered Asshole".......yeah, i like that
@arthurpussy
@arthurpussy 7 лет назад
nice one babe x never give up thats your bike you deserve it
@jrzyboy99
@jrzyboy99 9 лет назад
Girl has staying power! Got to be in shape to keep up with her!
@skipdow3
@skipdow3 9 лет назад
I have an old Beemer with a kick start only. It's low compression, and always starts by the third or fourth time when it's cold, and by the second, but usually the first, when it warms up. Her Harley needs tuning, or she needs to modify her procedure, slightly . I salute her. I think she is probably at the lower weight limit of what's necessary for that bike. Manual starting engines have a "routine" they seem to prefer. It's different with each engine, lawnmowers are the same way. If you learn it, it gets easier .Pay close attention to what " works" .
@jdaugustin
@jdaugustin 8 лет назад
That sad part is that nobody took the time to show her how to properly kick it. They just video taped... Probably would have started in a couple kicks if she had been taught the correct procedure.
@DaveyJonesLockerwithJazzy
@DaveyJonesLockerwithJazzy 4 года назад
I'm glad they didn't ;) .. sometimes, when I have a bad day, I return to watch this awesome vid ..
@zhukie
@zhukie 4 года назад
Same as those gun vids where the bf never shows her how to hold a gun properly lol
@TM1Alan
@TM1Alan 3 года назад
Ya know, there's one of you in every crowd. That's the sad part.
@joesurfer9754
@joesurfer9754 3 года назад
This is exactly what I said. She has a crappy teacher.
@bobbygrey5859
@bobbygrey5859 3 года назад
Exactly, well said.
@Moon-magic109
@Moon-magic109 4 года назад
Always remember Edison tried 10,000 before he succeeded. Great job. 👍
@dannymadsen5846
@dannymadsen5846 4 года назад
Don't give up.....never give up! That young lady is awesome. She absolutely wore me out....I was so tired I had to pause the video half way through so I could catch my breath. You are something.... doesn't even take a break.....just keeps kickin. I would like to meet you!!
@shellsgarage3460
@shellsgarage3460 7 лет назад
I felt her pain. Happened a lot to me on my pan. Once at a gas station a girl asked if I needed help. amused I said sure and backed away to give the little thing a try. She had it fired in two kicks. She Dryly looked at me and said put more ass into next time.
@bigmitchbaker7344
@bigmitchbaker7344 9 лет назад
thanks for unplugging the distributor so we could enjoy this little gem... next time-less clothing!
@moorshound3243
@moorshound3243 7 лет назад
couldn't care if the thing never started nice jeans ha!!
@deanomyfundsarelow4606
@deanomyfundsarelow4606 4 года назад
She's awesome...The funny thing they don't show is the stall, sonova and resulting dominoes of all the bikes in the garage...
@artemaso
@artemaso 7 лет назад
I like the kind of girl that just wont quit! Its all in the technique.
@MoonshineSazerac
@MoonshineSazerac 8 лет назад
The malicious asshole in me was waiting to see if it was in neutral.
@tyrssen1
@tyrssen1 7 лет назад
Hey, I know grown men, mechanics at shops even, that quiver in fear at the thought of trying to kick over an old ironhead. And with good reason: they're a total bitch, which is why I finally sold my '59. People used to deride Sportsters as a "girl's bike." Well, not unless the girl is a 250 pound lady wrestler. I had one, I've dealt with others, and I'm cured. All hail the god of electric starters.
@getoffmygrass6974
@getoffmygrass6974 2 года назад
Love seeing these real struggles, makes it all that much more victorious when it fires off. Of course years later now but still rad, love the scoot.
@brickit26
@brickit26 5 лет назад
Those bangs are making my nose itch.
@ajs715666
@ajs715666 8 лет назад
She looks good doing it!
@OfficialAndrewLee
@OfficialAndrewLee 8 лет назад
true dat
@gaetan458
@gaetan458 7 лет назад
Shes lucky the bike didn't kick back... it would've been broken bones.
@tubedude54
@tubedude54 6 лет назад
I have an iron head and it will toss your knee up to your chin if you let it!
@isabelolague863
@isabelolague863 6 лет назад
tubedude54 yep, over the bars
@chipper442
@chipper442 5 лет назад
Gaetan Giroux I was waiting for her to take a ride on the end of that kicker lol. Hey, she kept after it. Gotta send her out two beers short of leaving, by the time she's got it fired up, you can shoot a game of pool and knock em back.
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 5 лет назад
That's much less common than popular lore would have it. What usually causes "Sportster knee" is a worn kicker ratchet slipping under load.
@ShovelheadMatt
@ShovelheadMatt 3 года назад
It's not the kickback, but the worn out kicker gear that makes the kicker go to the floor that leaves your knee feeling like a french fry bent over Hillary Clintons leg getting the paddle for meddling in the 2016 election.
@HagsRideOrDie
@HagsRideOrDie 8 лет назад
That level of tenacity just to start a motorcycle... This is one of those people you hire for a tough job then get out their way!
@davidedwards1481
@davidedwards1481 6 месяцев назад
I feel your pain. Sometimes my old bike was so hard to start, when it finally started I was too tired to ride.
@eddiemartinez8173
@eddiemartinez8173 6 лет назад
she never gave up right on gril.
@etyrnal
@etyrnal 8 лет назад
LOVE those boots!!!
@machiavelli3839
@machiavelli3839 3 года назад
Awesome, she never gave in and eventually fired it up...however, when kicking a big old Iron like this, stand on the left hand peg while kicking over, that helps balance out the weight and prevents the bike pulling over to the right.
@DaveyJonesLockerwithJazzy
@DaveyJonesLockerwithJazzy 4 года назад
Watching those lovely kittens playing behind denim, I can watch this lovely woman all day😊
@TM1Alan
@TM1Alan 6 лет назад
My kinda girl, That's a lot of spirit.
@rebb1000
@rebb1000 9 лет назад
thumbs up and respect .. for making it and not giving up and even more for uploading.
@leibstandartejager8582
@leibstandartejager8582 4 года назад
I’ve gotta find a woman like her, never gives up ❤️
@nealmadill2986
@nealmadill2986 5 лет назад
Girl kickstarts a harley... good girl.. Loved the video from here in Corwall Ontario, Canada.
@romandybala
@romandybala 7 лет назад
Cant someone show her to quit wrenchin' on the throttle. If thats a pumper carb its way flooded.It's a lowered bike and the sidestand is too long . She needs it leaned over more as a counterweight to her kicking.
@seabuck59
@seabuck59 10 лет назад
Wow, am really impressed with the effort on kicking that beast over. Well done.
@Boreascorax
@Boreascorax 4 года назад
My first bike was a '60 XLCH, and in the intervening 44 years that I've been riding Harleys I have never seen a single person come anywhere close to getting thrown over the handle bars kick starting one. That said, I can sympathize with the young lady.
@KGRICK1
@KGRICK1 Год назад
i have seen it happen, a few broken legs also, iron head sportsters are the hardest bikes to kickstart next to a vintage triumph triple.
@MrRubenAlonzo
@MrRubenAlonzo 7 лет назад
I am so proud of you! Hell yes, nothing like perseverance!!!
@vf12497439
@vf12497439 8 лет назад
She never gave up!
@lookieimontv
@lookieimontv 6 лет назад
I could watch this aaaaalll day.
@johnlowe8418
@johnlowe8418 8 лет назад
The two things I never get tired of looking at...
@nordland2235
@nordland2235 2 года назад
I am a old dude who rode kick start twins all my life....I always straddled the bike and would push until I felt the compression build up then I come down with my weight.....if it was cold I used the choke.
@panhead55
@panhead55 9 лет назад
She won't be robbing any banks with that bike... Yikes!
@ksvproductions
@ksvproductions 7 лет назад
Frank Sells 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@carlissimo64
@carlissimo64 6 лет назад
Hilarious observation.
@alfie9876
@alfie9876 6 лет назад
Rob one that's on a hill and the police station is further up xD
@MookishofCali
@MookishofCali 8 лет назад
lmao @ Fuck Yeah! Excellent determination and perseverance! I'm a 99% er!
@carlredlin3918
@carlredlin3918 4 года назад
Love it. She is smart enough to bring it up to the compression stroke!
@coexcharlie
@coexcharlie 9 лет назад
I do know how you felt when it finally fired up! All my buddies ride electric start bikes and don't understand what it takes to get one of these old girls running.
@servicarrider
@servicarrider 8 лет назад
Sweet, sweet cheeks. She has got to be one tuff broad if she chooses a vibrator that makes her work for it.
@robertbenz
@robertbenz 8 лет назад
Awesome!! Kudos to her! My kind of girl!
@mariosousa6029
@mariosousa6029 5 лет назад
What bike is on the left side of the ironhead? cb750? looks good!
@stevo7807
@stevo7807 7 лет назад
Looks like a 50.s sporster like i had, you go girl!!!
@roninselman6772
@roninselman6772 10 лет назад
Jeeze girl, stop twisting the throttle so much, you're pumping a shot of gas in every time! Might want to consider thicker head gaskets to lighten the compression a tad, and a good tuneup of the ignition. It should start easier than that!
@byronyorks9734
@byronyorks9734 6 лет назад
she makes that look like alot o fun ; ]
@flhs81
@flhs81 6 лет назад
I love at 0:18 "Come on you fuck" I've used the same phrase many times myself when trying to start my old Shovelhead.
@miner999r
@miner999r 9 лет назад
She is showing the proper way to kick start so you don't have your knee tore up if it backfires. It is the safe way to start and also allows you to put more into it if you don't have a lot of weight.
@midnightmc3096
@midnightmc3096 11 месяцев назад
Fiiinally someone with experience to describe the predicament and concern. Many a burly guy limping around since the eighties due to XLCH-knee. From southern California ~ Ride Forever! 🦅
@mariomaldo25
@mariomaldo25 8 лет назад
great !! momma dint rais no quitter
@nynut518
@nynut518 8 лет назад
lmfao that was awesome !!!!!
@jpatt1000
@jpatt1000 7 лет назад
I think the only time I've seen a human work harder to start an internal combustion engines was the video of two guys starting Flying Heritage Collections FW-190 with the hand cranked inertia starter. After five or six failed attempts it finally fired as well.
@luciddreamz1446
@luciddreamz1446 6 лет назад
The look on her face when it happened. Like she win the lottery 😃😂
@wellygirlsluv2kickstart457
@wellygirlsluv2kickstart457 10 лет назад
Magnificent...what a gal! Pair of wellies next time please!
@joebourdeau3188
@joebourdeau3188 10 лет назад
Ew wtf?
@StarekS
@StarekS 9 лет назад
Imagine zombie apocalypse "honey, go and get our harley, i will keep them busy". 3 mins later you are propably one of zombies, already eating your girlfriend :D
@sylwer7
@sylwer7 9 лет назад
Some of us doesn't need to be zombie to eat our girlfriends...
@tomast9034
@tomast9034 6 лет назад
starts on one.....have to begin the procedure in half past eleven....
@PETROLSCENTED
@PETROLSCENTED 8 лет назад
which is harder: kickstartin a high comp single or low comp twin?
@MTB..MAD89
@MTB..MAD89 6 лет назад
Awesome.!! Definitely keep her pal.... very good looking and can kick up a old bike RESPECT 👍🏼
@dawg141
@dawg141 8 лет назад
Way to hang in there!!
@asaswingle1997
@asaswingle1997 4 года назад
My dad had a 74 shovelhead that took about 30 minutes to an hour sometimes to kick start it.
@kinster02
@kinster02 5 лет назад
Looking at all these kick start video's, brings me to the conclusion that, these vehicles won't make good get away vehicles.
@Odd_Interaction
@Odd_Interaction 5 лет назад
kinster02 I know mine certainly wasn’t even when backed in and set up before hand on the compression stroke.
@benduncan3930
@benduncan3930 4 года назад
My dad kicked a 74 iron head so much one day- every time he kicked, the kickstand would put about a half inch scuff on the shop floor. By the time it started there was a circle about the size of a basketball on the floor. Good ole stomp start...
@rgvlowriders
@rgvlowriders 9 лет назад
what year is that bike?
@ashanderson1555
@ashanderson1555 7 лет назад
Jesus the comments on here are creepy
@JohnHMercer
@JohnHMercer 8 лет назад
2:45 for you
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 4 года назад
THANKS
@sipaachannelwelcome4690
@sipaachannelwelcome4690 3 года назад
I truly appreciate what you are doing
@vibramsouls
@vibramsouls 9 лет назад
awesome. now turn it off and go have a beer
@garygullikson6349
@garygullikson6349 8 лет назад
Why do most Harley riders awkwardly kick start from the side. Why not straddle the bike and kick like you mean it.
@Johnny-df4di
@Johnny-df4di 3 года назад
It's an old iron head not a dirt bike sportser knee is a real thing your knee doesn't bend that way trust me when you jump up to kick like hell the two gears come enmeshed fucking full power to the bottom. You will know what sportser knee is like.
@MrHarleyoldfart
@MrHarleyoldfart 7 лет назад
'Girl TRYING to kick start a Harley!
@joblessalex
@joblessalex 5 лет назад
By the time you get that started, I'll be half way across town.
@danielkang7789
@danielkang7789 5 лет назад
LMAO get a bike that u can actually handle.
@thomaswilliams615
@thomaswilliams615 5 лет назад
Proper technique and boots. I’ve had bad days kickstarting my softail, too.
@miken8720
@miken8720 4 года назад
Beautiful. Plus it keeps her in shape. Nice bike
@bobsutton104
@bobsutton104 2 года назад
Worked on iron heads at a shop in Cleveland for years. Ended up needing knee surgery from the infamous bad kick bushings
@glennforsyth3539
@glennforsyth3539 4 года назад
10 points for persistance, good on ya girl
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