Girsan MC P35 OPS Custom Hi-Power - Worth it or hot mess? 

I purchased a Girsan MC P-35 today without the sight at my local store for $649. You are probably correct.

@@kevinallies1014 was it the ops version?

Yup..I wonder why my case has a cut out for a second magazine but there is only on in the gun

I have chatted with an owner who said EAA customer service was terrible. Inhave the Girsan Match version which I habe yet to fire but the fiber optic coming loose is apparently common. He never spoke to how the gun shoots. How does one review a forearm and not mention that?😊

I've learned from experience that EAA is a pretty trash importer. They get their hands on great guns, sell them and offer little support/parts. They'll probably stop importing this one in a year.

I have the same exact gun. Have not yet fired. But, reviews and feedback from owners state the same. One reputable reviewer said the trigger got better after 200 or 300 rounds. He stated that he generally has not had that experience with most guns even when other swear it is so. Also suggested to heat the ends of the fiber optic so they don't fall out. I have a suggestion given to me regarding a trigger job. Owner said it was amazing. Curious if you feel the green is a better color for sighting?

@@leelazarus5529 Yes, the green one has been much better for me.

I have the non Optic MCP35 and love it. I would have loved to have gotten the Optic one but it wasn't out at the time. I paid less than $600.00 for the non Optic and find it well worth the money. It's a tack driver and so far has done well with no issues. The trigger is nice smooth with a clean break. People that have been in competition shooting sports know the fiber optic don't last long when used a lot so for me it's no big deal, I wouldn't like it if it fell off in less than a 100 rounds.

I grabbed an Escort slugger 12 gauge pump for $200 because I figured why not and it’s been pretty solid with no issues. Though it is the only Turkish shotgun I’ve shot

Hates on Turkish shotguns not cycling 1250fps or slower 12ga loads.... Without having an example to point at that actually can. Saiga. Ar conversion uppers. Any semi-auto mag fed shotgun will have issues cycling low speed rounds, and tuned this can be mitigated. It's dummy hate for dummies and a couple smarties that want the price driven ever-lower on clearance guns in an effort to stock up. All mag auto shotties have this issue regardless of Russian or American or Turkish origin. It's a false notion.

I've had good luck with a Tri-Star side by side 12 gauge and with a VR80 12 gauge semi-auto although I did need to get a missing O ring for the VR80 and break it in w/100 -150 1400+ fps rounds.

Dam I picked up a belgium made 1971 hi power for 600$ bux made a couple hundred bux on my sks so i got 400$ in it made me a happy old man lol 😆

Turkish pistols aren't junks. Turkish rifles and shotguns are... eh, unless they are made for reputable companies...

My first gun was the original Belgian hi power, no other gun has fit my hand better. I like to get a Girsan to use that more and keep the original in the safe.

Never choose, by both!

Wish I had kept mine

What does “need” have to do with it?

Yeah, it's grear until it starts ejecting parts.

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I just want Springfield to make one with a beavertail that doesn’t look like hot garbage. Something along the lines of Jim Garthwaite, Robar, or Wilson Combat (yes, they used to customize Hi Powers!) beavertail, as opposed to some weird nearly straight spike sticking out behind the frame. Even the nighthawk one is a little wonky. I’ll gladly let them scan my Ted Yost Heirloom Precision Hi Power to get an idea of what a proportionally flattering beavertail looks like. Or the hi ride thumb safety that was custom made to approximately the feel and positive detent by llike a 1911.

You have a very desirable gun. The .40 S&W has a heavier slide and stronger frame than the 9 mm. Novak used to use the .40 as a basis for their beautiful custom Hi Powers. The beaver tail was an option. Too bad they no longer customize guns. Love my Novak Para Ordnance P-13 Custom! Cylinder and Slide will put a beaver tail on for you. Plus lots of other cool mods and parts. I put their larger thumb safeties plus sears and trigger on also Cheers

Look into the no optics Girsan Match model. No magazine safety stock. Shoots really well by all accounts.

In my experience EAA are absolute jerks about everything. You caused the front sight fiber optic to fall out by actually shooting your gun, and you expect them to fix it? The nerve of some people…. Remember when everyone needed a Witness 10mm but some models cracked the slide and frame on a regular basis with standard pressure rounds? EAA were total dickheads about it. Luckily Tanfoglio was awesome about getting those back into service. On a serious note, did the fiber optic tube have any indication it would be fragile before you shot it? Was the “balled up”portion melted at the front or the rear was too small for the opening in the sight? Was the replacement fiber optic filament a good fit to the sight? Some filaments are very brittle and if its undersized the shock of firing tends to break them. I’ve replaced enough FO filament that I had a whole box with nothing but different colors and sizes. The filament sold by Dawson Precision isn’t the cheapest but it is flexible. Bullseye out of New Hampshire is pretty good too and supposedly US made. Using a tapered Diamond needle file to minutely break the sharp edge of fiber optic tunnel in the sight can help too, since the sharp edges can act as stress risers break the filament.

I'm hoping someone will release an alloy version like the old FN Aluminum ones.

@@tylerwilliams6022 those had problems with durability. They tried alloy framed DEs too. Same issue.

@@tylerwilliams6022 now, a heavily sprung, alloy framed 3.8" carry model would be titties. Big, firm ones. ❤ I have a Star PD that was wild and unpleasant until I put a heavier spring in it. Now its a pussycat.

@@guymansonjr4780 That's why I would practice with a regular HP and use the alloy one for carry.

FEG made a stainless copy Hi-Power. FN made the silver/chrome model, two different runs. One made in Belgium around 1984, one made in Belgium assembled in Portugal in very early 90's. There were very small differences between them.

I don't know, I must have the only unmodified BHP with an out of the box awesome trigger. It's a Belgian made MKII that I bought decades ago back at Navy Arms in NJ. In fact it was Val Forgett who took it out of the case and showed it to me. He was trying to push me that day toward a SIG 225 police trade in, but I was a young man who until then bought second hand and wanted to buy my first brand new pistol. Over 40 years later I still have that gun. Even with the magazine disconnect the trigger still breaks like a Canik or Walther PPQ. One day I will pass it on to my son.

If you have problems finding a new fibre element , Red monofilament large diameter .6 .65 .7mm .8mm depending on the diameter required are all available from local tackle shops and work pretty well, just warm the end into a blob with a soldering iron and push the unburned end through the slot then cut of the excess and heat that down to a size that holds it securely in the sight . It worked fine on My air rifle so it should work ok on powder burners too .

Get the Girsan Match. Closest to what you desire.

Still looking for an SA-35. When I do it will get Novak sights installed and the extractor replaced. Along with a C&S ring hammer and thumb safety. Also on the list would be to have MK3 do one of their awesome trigger jobs. Unsure as to keeping the stock trigger pad or going flat faced. May just split the baby and do a Garthwaite style trigger.

Don't get a sa35. Bh springs found that the girsan used better stronger steel

@@tylerwilliams6022 Bud's has them. I just had a friend buy a new one and after trying multiple different types of ammo, it would not group. He is in the process of trading it off and he hasn't even owned it for more than 2 weeks.

@@jason200912 Really? I figured the Girsan would be the more inferior of the two.

@@tylerwilliams6022 croatian springfield isn't the best manufacturer of quality guns. They got a neat name by purchasing it way back. garand thumb did a vid on the sa 35 for infamously jamming everytime once you got past the 800 round mark

New for that? Mine was over $700 new locally. G10 grips

@@leelazarus5529 yes new, no optic cut on mine and I'm okay with it. Black Friday deal

Garand thumb also found that after 800 rounds. The sa35 would stop extracting the rim of brass at least once per mag.

it depends were you are in my area they have not gone up much the girsans are a better deal saw the 92 version of the beretta preformance model 526 wow beat paying 1500 or more for a beretta PS I own 2

Yes the cz is the modernized version of the hi power and is better in every way. The only weak point is that cz has a poorly designed firing pin that breaks. But it can be fixed with aftermarket firing pins from Cajun. The double action option on the cz specifically changes it to being able to conceal carry well.

the CZ is a single double action it not like other if you look careful they added a decocker that only brings it to a type of half cock I know I owned one but you right its the BHP upgrade@@jason200912

In the early to mid-90's, the Hi Power was still considered a popular choice in a carry gun. The first thing we did back then when we got a Hi Power was to take out that magazine safety, especially because that materially improved the factory trigger pull. I think if I were going to spend $800 on one today, I'd probably buy the Springfield Armory, since it has modern improvements that we used to have to pay for after purchase, and getting service on it from a US company is probably going to be easier.

You need to stake it. Had to do that on my Girsan Match Elite 1911. Dawson fiber optic sight would not stay in the dovetail.

a lot of gun the disconnect usally directly effects the path of the trigger bar will take that why when its removed big difference

yes you can carry it but I think most people buy one because the want a classic even if its a clone

@@bernardconeghen Agreed. It could be carried, anything can I guess, but its hardly ideal in today's world when you can get the same capacity at half the size and weight...

Have you ever seen the 1911 beaver

My SA-35 was just meh. Reset in loooong and can't feel it. Notice how slow Mac shoots it