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Girsan MC P35 1000 Round Review: The $500 Browning Hi Power 

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New for 2022, the Girsan MC P35 is one of the best guns for the money I've had on the channel.
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@briancyers6790
@briancyers6790 2 года назад
At the 2:00 mark you state "it has an aluminum frame". It is constructed of 4140 chrome-moly steel. Slide is milled from cold drawn bar stock while the frame is fully machined from a forging; both are heat-treated. Internal components are machined from high tensile steel.
@mitchelperkins6723
@mitchelperkins6723 11 месяцев назад
Bought the two tone Gray/Black this weekend very slightly used ( looked unfired). Got 2 extra Mec-Gar 15 round mags. My Lyman digital pull gauge showed a 6 pull test average of 7#. Removed the magazine disconnect and the grittyness went away and the trigger pull dropped to an average of 5#9oz. Blacked out the weird back white marked sight, and used a bright orange paint pen to mark the front sight. Zero malfunctions in 100 rounds with my son and I each taking turns shooting reloads with 125 grain Berrys Plated RN and Berrys 125 target Hollow points. Accuracy was really good, and got better while shooting. After the 100 the trigger pull had settled down to just at 5#, and got much crisper. I feel that will improve even more with more shooting. Ordered some G10 blue/black grips for it, and the precut textured pebble grained stick on grip tape kit for front and rear straps. Those pebble grained stick on panels really improve grip. I have used them on several pistols whose front strap shape isn't conducive to hand checkering like I do on 1911 builds. Might hand cut it 40 LPI later, but don't want to do that now and have to re-ceracote it. . Very impressed with it. And your First shots and 1000 round videos were why I got it. Always wanted a Browning HP, But prices hindered making that purchase. I build all my own pistols, and AR platform rifles and Bolt guns myself (30 years of experience) and there aren't readily available parts to scratch build a HP. Very pleased with this one, and my son who is another 1911 lover said he was get one next gun show. He is LEO, and carries a 1911 built in my shop daily on duty. Thanks for these videos, they helped make the decision to purchase it. Girsan Regard is next on my buy list as well. Cheers!
@redlabel69
@redlabel69 Год назад
I paid $425 NIB for my two tone MC P35 yesterday. Having owned a FEG, BHP Practical, and BHP Mk3... I can tell that I'm impressed with this gun so far. Very solid feeling, and fit&finish is flawless. Now I need to remove the mag disconnect and throw some lead downrange.
@one-metallica4156
@one-metallica4156 Год назад
Thanks for the review, I’m next to get one.
@jimdawdy6254
@jimdawdy6254 10 месяцев назад
I've got a FEG that my dad bought back in the 80s when we both did some IPSC shooting, so it had thousands of rounds through it. It's not the polished, Belgian-gnome workmanship of a FN, but I inherited the thing, with a lot of rust, cleaned it up, slapped a paint job on it, and replaced a cracked firing pin retaining plate. Goes bang just fine. If I didn't have that, I'd get a Girsan. The copies are nice, and I have no interest in paying $$$$$ for an FN.
@natlovell122
@natlovell122 14 дней назад
Any updates on the pistol?
@redlabel9294
@redlabel9294 13 дней назад
​@natlovell122 I've had it to the range several times and it's been flawless. The trigger is less than ideal, but I've found that to be true of HPs regardless of brand and era. I mainly focus on my three sizes of P365s and on my MP5s and AR pistols these days. But I like having the Girsan and it's not going anywhere.
@natlovell122
@natlovell122 13 дней назад
@@redlabel9294 those P365 XL’s feel great in the hands. Unfortunately they’re also like $600-$700 here in California.
@matthewmcallister8546
@matthewmcallister8546 Год назад
Thanks Girsan! It's nice to be able to carry a Hi Power again. I deem mine too valuable to take out of the house now. I picked up 2. Looks good, feels good too, a trip back to the early '90's !
@PatrickMalone-fj2ul
@PatrickMalone-fj2ul Год назад
Forged steel frame, not alloy, and removing the magazine safety greatly improves the trigger pull. Good review.
@Smokey_Cornbread
@Smokey_Cornbread Год назад
The HI Power was John Brownings last small arm design before he died in 1926. His protégé from FN finished it by 1929 when the patent was a approved and it was fielded in 1935, hence the P35 designation outside of the US. The oldest 9mm handgun still produced. Fact checking is welcomed.
@58allendavis
@58allendavis Год назад
You got your facts right. Something else that isn't widely known or acknowledged is that Browning had to work around the fact that he'd sold ALL his patent rights to the US government when he developed the 1911. This is the biggest reason the Hi Power doesn't have a swiveling pinned barrel link like the 1911, nor the removable barrel bushing, although Saive said Browning was determined to ditch those "features" anyway. The French Army was responsible for commissioning FN to build the pistol in the first place, and of course they rejected it out-of-hand once it was finished. I think they did so deliberately -- it gave them the chance to see Browning's design so they could copy as much of it as possible. The biggest thing that isn't widely known is that the first incarnations of the Hi Power were actually striker fired pistols that employed a breech block of some kind. The idea that Browning came up with a striker fired gun decades before the Glock blows me away. I can't remember why the striker fired design was abandoned, but it was responsible for the trigger linkage that exists today. As far as I know, the Hi Power is the only gun of its kind that has a firing mechanism that isn't operable unless the slide is present on the gun. About the Girsan, I was badly mistaken in my previous comments that it had a chrome plated barrel. It's just a highly polished piece of plain vanilla 4140 chrome moly steel. It's not a bad barrel, but I replaced mine with one of the Elite Match barrel from BHSpring Solutions, along with their dual-stage recoil spring guide assembly and their wide tactical serrated 8.4mm triggers. The only big modification I have yet to do is the installation of their SFS safety system. God, I love this Girsan pistol. Say whatever you might, but the Turks know their stuff when it comes to making high quality guns. After all, they were making museum-grade rifles 500 years before gunpowder was introduced in Europe.
@RogersGirl88
@RogersGirl88 11 месяцев назад
Your mom thirsts for vitamin D. FACT!
@jimgarvey48
@jimgarvey48 4 месяца назад
Yep, and Stoeger shotguns too, in Turkey I'm sure
@DuaneThomas1963
@DuaneThomas1963 2 года назад
The frame on the Girsan Hi-Power is not aluminum, it's steel. Though the classic Hi-Power frame is so skeletonized, I suppose I can see how someone not familiar with the design could believe it's aluminum. In any event, try sticking a magnet to it, you'll find it does, in fact, stick. It's not that you're giving up a checkered frontstrap at the price point, it's that the Hi-Power's frontstrap is literally too thin to checker without cutting through it. Barrel length on the Hi-Power is 4.65" (I suppose we could round it up to 4.7" if we really wanted to), not five inches.
@jimhovater8755
@jimhovater8755 2 года назад
FN actually made a couple of aluminum BHP frames.
@DuaneThomas1963
@DuaneThomas1963 2 года назад
@@jimhovater8755. Indeed they did. There is an entire chapter in R. Blake Stevens' excellent book, The Browning High Power Automatic Pistol, on those experimental models, which never actually went into production.
@jimhovater8755
@jimhovater8755 2 года назад
@@DuaneThomas1963 It's rumored that Novak ended up with one of them.
@charlesschenck911
@charlesschenck911 Год назад
Thus far, you are the only Reviewer who has spoken positively about the trigger. I got my MC P35 yesterday and will try it next week.
@charlesschenck911
@charlesschenck911 Год назад
I tried it. Did not do badly. The Stiff Trigger kinda disappears when you get into Single Saction Shooting. Apparently I haven't found the time, until today, to "score" my target. Then I will photograph it and shrink a copy.
@PoorMansArsenal
@PoorMansArsenal Год назад
Removing the mag disconnect will not only improve the mag drop problem, it normally improves the trigger itself also
@bettycocker2226
@bettycocker2226 Год назад
it can weaken the reset.
@chrisbonnett6783
@chrisbonnett6783 Месяц назад
Definitely. A must-do.
@marvinsamples8236
@marvinsamples8236 Месяц назад
I have a nazi hi power from ww2' 1942' and because of ww2 war production ' a magazine disconnect was ne er put in mine ' and my trigger is very nice
@PPISAFETY
@PPISAFETY Год назад
I think the reason you got that weird sight setup was, believe it or not, that is what Browning put on the MKIII "Combat" (IIRC) in the late 80's early 90's. It was a two-tone pistol with ambi oversized safety levers, more prominent sights, and spring loaded wire contraption that positively shot the mags out on a reload. I owned one briefly and instantly recognized those sights. They were miles ahead of most Hi Power sights of the time, back when we were actually carrying Hi Powers to fight with. As a combat sight, they worked okay if you applied the "Tactical Sharpie" to the rear sight.
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 Год назад
“Tactical Sharpie” :-)
@Greatflower420
@Greatflower420 6 месяцев назад
Ive had mine for 8 months and havent had a chamber jam yet. Love my handgun
@307living3
@307living3 2 года назад
Have a Charles daily hi power and absolutely love it first handgun I bought myself when I turned 21 had it 20 years now
@hughgrection9439
@hughgrection9439 2 года назад
It makes more sense than a 1911 in 9mm
@RabidPrimeape
@RabidPrimeape Год назад
1911s in 9mm are an abomination, in my opinion.
@LMFAO5001
@LMFAO5001 Год назад
​@@RabidPrimeapei love the original but the 1911 in 9mm is better in my opinion. I prefer 9mm but i love the 1911 frame. I havent gotten to shoot it much but the low recoil out of a 5 inch barrel makes it pretty accurate and fun to shoot. 9 round capacity compared to 7 is nice. I want a 45 too but i dont see why its better besides thats the original.
@CuckBalls
@CuckBalls Год назад
10mm says hi
@tacticaltoad1104
@tacticaltoad1104 Год назад
​@LMFAO5001 yeah your just not blind to the fact that 45acp isn't all that. I mean, I can see it being a great round for guns with suppresses in mind 😅
@CuckBalls
@CuckBalls Год назад
@@tacticaltoad1104 you are not wrong but .45 acp is G0dS CaLiBeR
@IronHonkey
@IronHonkey 2 года назад
You've found a good budget alternative with the Girsan's, already knocking out their 1911 and Hi-power clones have you considered reviewing their Beretta clone as well? FYI, love your videos. Will join your Patreon once I'm in the green.
@58allendavis
@58allendavis Год назад
I've been a Hi Power fanatic for ages. I carried a Series '70 Colt Government Model for twenty-four years and never thought I'd love another gun as much, but for me, the Hi Power is my all-time favorite sidearm, even though it's not a .45. With modern ammo, I don't feel that's an issue anymore. I just bought a Girsen identical to the one you review here (except mine was two-tone, another thing I'm freakish for). I paid $399 plus $16 shipping and $20 for the FFL paperwork. Like you, the sights on this thing are just friggin' weird and I'm going to see if I can't find some tritium sights that will fit this thing ASAP. I also yanked that abominable magazine disconnector and it improved my trigger pull immensely. It's still heavy, though. According to my gauge it is right at 5 pounds even. But it's crisp, clean and breaks without a hint of creep. Hi Powers are notoriously difficult to perform a trigger job on, but I think I can coax this one down to 3 pounds with some meticulous stoning and a set of Wolf springs. You erroneously stated that the gun has an aluminum frame. Not so. It is steel. One strange departure is the barrel being chrome plated. Girsan claims that they followed John M. Browning's design to the letter (hence the magazine disconnector), but I don't recall ever seeing a brightly chromed barrel from FN before. I think the bright chrome on the exterior is gaudy looking, like something I'd expect to see on a New Orleans pimp's gun. I don't know where people get the idea, but lots of folks think chrome lined barrels are more accurate, and that simply is NOT true. These folks like to point to Uncle Sam's requirement that the M16/M4 barrel be chrome plated. But that's for corrosion resistance, not accuracy. Chrome and steel have very different expansion differentials when it comes to temperature. Over time and with a lot of shooting, chrome linings don't hold up. And it's been my experience that such barrels actually shoot more accurately once the damn chrome is gone (but before the rifling itself is shot out). I put this pistol in a Ransom Rest after I'd run about 400 rounds down the tube, and I was getting sub-2-inch groups at 25 yards. In fact, a few groups approached 1.5" at that distance with good ammo. One last thing: aside from Girsan, there's another Turkish company also currently making Hi Power clones, and I can't recall the name of that firm to save my neck at the moment, but it starts with a "T." I'm sure you know the company of which I'm speaking. At any rate, I've read from two completely different sources that Springfield actually SOURCES ITS FRAMES for their SA-35 pistol from either Girsan or the other Turkish company. I wouldn't have brought this up were it not for a couple of my range buddies saying they've heard/read the same thing. Thank you for a great video. I love the way you don't fuck around and hum-haw with a lot of "uhhhs" and endlessly use the word "like" over and over while you search for words. You're extremely well-spoken and you get to the point. I'd never seen your channel before, but I'm a subscriber now and I look forward to watching more of your reviews in the future!
@surgeeclipse6323
@surgeeclipse6323 Год назад
Tisas was the other Turkish clone of the hi power.....
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 Год назад
Well said. The man doesn't use a bunch of filler words.
@justinpennington7682
@justinpennington7682 Год назад
Any evidence to Chrome lined bores not holding up ?
@58allendavis
@58allendavis Год назад
Sure. Steel melts at about 2,500° F -- depending on the exact alloy. Chromium melts at 3,465° F -- quite a difference. The expansion differential between steel and chromium is such that chrome lining will eventually begin cracking and peeling after repeatedly being heated and cooled, which is what happens when gun barrels are put to use. I've seen it. That's one of the big reasons that the Army requires the barrels of M16s and M4s be swapped out every 7,500 rounds. That is not a long barrel life.@@justinpennington7682
@SuperStar_HoboCop
@SuperStar_HoboCop 11 месяцев назад
I've also seen in online forum talk that springfield has their SA-35s had work done from Tisas. Apparently, an article stated that they have the Turkish company do as much work as possible before it's shipped to the USA, where springfield does enough work to call it "American Made." I've heard chrome lined barrels do reduce some accuracy, but significantly improve the barrels lifespan. I have no idea if this was done in the 1930s at all, though.
@marcross52-95
@marcross52-95 2 года назад
I believe the P-35 needs to have the same attention and support the CZ-75 platform has.
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 5 дней назад
The cz75 is literally a glorified hipower
@hukedonfonix1671
@hukedonfonix1671 2 года назад
I bought the girsan Mc 1911s and after around 2500 rounds for a single stack .45 this thing has been incredibly smooth trigger is unbelievably sensitive no wiggles no lose parts had no jams, some say its horrible don't know how old theirs is but mine has been awesome for $525
@hunter5502000
@hunter5502000 Год назад
People talk bad about the Turkish guns, which are built to the same standards because they're jealous they paid 1500 for a colt vs 300 like I paid for my tisas. The difference is my tisas gets shot more than most colts and gets carried every day with no issues.
@thepetersd535
@thepetersd535 Год назад
I've owned 2 tisas they shoot amazingly great for the price point but both had about 5 jams within 500 rounds so I definitely didn't trust one to carry even though it shot amazingly and I was super accurate with it
@Kingwoodish
@Kingwoodish 2 года назад
Hooray! It took awhile but 10 years ago found a nice used Argentinian High Power for $425. Put some nice Hogue wood grips on it and bought a couple Mec-Gar magazines for it. Great shooting gun and a survivor of the Falklands War.
@red9man2130
@red9man2130 2 года назад
Those Argentine Hi-powers were made under LICENSE from FN!
@817mborja
@817mborja 2 года назад
Said in a confrontational Brooklyn accent* Eh, yo William! Survivor of which Fuckin (Falkn)war? There's fuckin wars all over the place! How am I supposed to know which piece of history you're referencing?!
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 2 года назад
If it has the cuts on the slide it is a licensed FN copy....if the slide has no cuts.....like a 1911 then it was made after the licensing dropped....practically the same firearm....but that is how they defrienciate one from the other.....I like the Turkish hi power ....especially in mk 3 configuration....prefer the bigger safety....the ordinal one was useless....but I will wait a little while till they iron out any bugs it may have.....
@jamesnelson7415
@jamesnelson7415 3 месяца назад
​@@817mborja- for those who weren't around and were never taught history, he was referring to the Falklands War between Argentina and Great Britain.
@EvanEverhart911
@EvanEverhart911 2 месяца назад
I got the California model of the gun. It has their match barrel with superior fitment, and novak sights with a removable back sight panel which is cut for an optic if you so desire. The novak sights are better than the ramped sights. I switched out the factory Mark III grips for Pachmayr Signature grips which has a full wraparound of checkering and the signature bulge swoops as finger and thumb shelves on both sides. The rear panel is the separate panel of the grip. It feels excellent in the hand. I still need to take out the magazine disconnect, but am awaiting the replacement trigger/frame pin from BHSS. Seriously man, try the Pachmayr grips if youve still got the pistol. Makes the handling Supreme. Love the video. So happy to finally have a Hi Power again!
@Smarterthanasocialist
@Smarterthanasocialist 4 месяца назад
I went ahead and bought one of these weapons after watching your review Outlaw, and I couldn't be more happy.
@Zantar45
@Zantar45 10 месяцев назад
So excited that these are going to be coming to California in the near future.
@DrownInLysergic
@DrownInLysergic 3 месяца назад
Move out of California. Shit hole state.
@kenkellar2246
@kenkellar2246 3 месяца назад
available from Turner’s now in california
@mariuss.6607
@mariuss.6607 5 дней назад
Get outta there
@danielmackormack8524
@danielmackormack8524 2 года назад
I enjoyed the review. For some time I have been watching some EAA Girson pistols.Your comments on how much you like the build quality influenced me to purchase one of there 1911 clones. Thank you very much 👍
@jamesp.rogers5156
@jamesp.rogers5156 2 года назад
Holy crap Chris , I'm going to a gun show tomorrow and I'm looking for this exact gun ,it must be fate that you put out a video on this particular gun. I have always wanted one !
@sartorialdriver6528
@sartorialdriver6528 2 года назад
Let me know if you find one because I can't find any even online, let alone at a local FFL.
@jackpfister1798
@jackpfister1798 2 года назад
Just got 226 legion sao But that looks awesome
@josephesquivel4066
@josephesquivel4066 2 года назад
Good Luck, these things are ridiculous to find online. Less than a handful show up on Gunbroker and knuckleheads bid them up to about the same price as the classic Hi Powers
@garymccausland1272
@garymccausland1272 2 года назад
@@sartorialdriver6528 I can't find one either
@darrenwilson157
@darrenwilson157 Год назад
You've sold me on it! I definitely want one! I've wanted a Hi-Power for a long time now, and I got no problem with getting one of these.
@j.s.partin6107
@j.s.partin6107 Год назад
Little late, I know, but off your recommendation I acquired a P35 Match Hi Power by Girsan. It’s my first Hi Power and I love it. Thanks for the video. Now, gotta find a CZ P01!
@jwchoi9823
@jwchoi9823 2 года назад
BH Springs did a thorough review and in their opinion, the accuracy issue is related to the barrel. They replaced the barrel and the accuracy issue went away.
@matthewcaughey8898
@matthewcaughey8898 2 года назад
Who’s barrel did they use and what did it take to fit it?
@jddrafts
@jddrafts 2 года назад
@@matthewcaughey8898 Their match barrel not sure if someone makes it for them or if they make it in house. It fit in with no alteration.
@damondiehl5637
@damondiehl5637 2 года назад
@@jddrafts Unfortunately, the barrel is almost as much as the gun ($345).
@mitchelperkins6723
@mitchelperkins6723 11 месяцев назад
Had another PistolSmith tell me he has recut the crowns to 11° on a few of these and accuracy improved a good bit too. I'm going to recut mine this week and test it off bags at 25 yards before and after . I'll try to report back.
@isaudy
@isaudy 9 месяцев назад
Mitch, did it improve?
@hunter5502000
@hunter5502000 Год назад
Might have to pick one up. Put hundreds of rounds through my tisas, with the only jams being caused by super flat hollow points. Happy with the quality of these Turkish guns truly.
@vaughnkavon3993
@vaughnkavon3993 2 года назад
Great Review. Thanks for your professional take on the Getsan MC P35
@terencewoods3996
@terencewoods3996 Год назад
Glad to see the hi power coming back. Have loved it since I was a teenager. Own an FN, and a fake FN made for Iraqi police by FEG. Both work great, can't wait to get my hands on this one, see how she stacks up.
@humpy936
@humpy936 Год назад
I recently bought the ops version with the improved trigger, sights, and G10 grips, mine does not have the magazine disconnect, it’s also easy to remove it as I have done on my Browning version, I’m quite happy with it, and for the $516 price tag I paid well worth it, while it won’t have the best finish of some higher priced ones for half the price it’s a pretty good bargain.😊
@failmuffin69
@failmuffin69 2 года назад
I love my Girsan Regard MC6, every Girsan I've used so far has been amazing!
@sisleymichael
@sisleymichael 2 года назад
I had a Hi Power years ago. I was in college and needed rent money so I sold it. I want one now. I don't "need" it, just want it. The Girsan would be fun. Good review Chris.
@jimmymcclure4549
@jimmymcclure4549 2 года назад
After watching your videos I bought one of these. I have always wanted a Hi Power but never could justify the price. I paid about $550 OTD for this one and so far I am a big fan. I think the trigger is great in mine and I even like the sights. I may put some pretty wood grips on it but the ones tha came on it are fine also. If the FN's and Brownings shoot much better than this they must really be something. I am really glad I bought it.
@anon4071
@anon4071 2 года назад
Can confirm that browning hi power grips fit perfectly on this. I also have the m9 clone from girsan and m9 grips do not fit up perfectly and need a little modification to fit.
@Dadof5-4
@Dadof5-4 2 года назад
Thanks for the review. I have to look for one of these now. I have been shooting and carrying a High Power for 15 years. Get the magazine disconnect removed. It will let the mags fall free and give a better trigger pull.
@riskydabs3710
@riskydabs3710 Месяц назад
Some people hate on budget friendly firearms and I will gladly take the under dog all of my firearms are budget friendly Diamondback , FMK , Mossberg and my new Girsan I just bought I would say my ar15 and this Girsan are the most expensive guns I own and I’m damn proud cause I work hard and bought them myself
@lylealexson8680
@lylealexson8680 Год назад
I just ordered one today. I look forward to receiving it. Thank you for the review H.O.
@TheRobman139
@TheRobman139 2 года назад
I got one of these a little over a month ago as I write this. Mine was about $600 OTD, including FFL transfer fee, shipping, etc. Always wanted a Hi-Power but didn’t want to take a chance on a used or a milsurp, and new builds were just too much coin. Very happy to finally get a Hi-Power for a reasonable price. Came very heavily oiled. Needed to clean it up somewhat before taking it to the range. First range session was 70 rounds. Had one failure to eject. Second range session was 128 rounds. First 120 were without incident, and then on round #121, there was a failure to fire. Hammer went down and nothing happened. Re-chambered the round and it fired. Third range session was 100 rounds. Had three failures to eject and three failures to fire. On the latter, manually re-cocking the hammer got it to fire; “second strike”. Works most of the time; can’t accuse it of being a “jamo-matic”. A little concerned about reliability after my third range session, though. All ammo was factory ammo from reputable companies; Browning, Winchester, Belom, IMI, Federal. The IMI and Federal were hollow points that cycled perfectly. I think perhaps there was still some excess oil in the slide that was mixing with the carbon buildup and creating crud that may have been interfering a little bit with the firing pin and the extractor. Earlier today as I write this, gave it a thorough cleaning, using a non-oil based cleaner on the slide (Birchwood Casey Gun Scrubber). Hopefully it will be more solidly reliable going forward. Lots of fun to shoot and easy to shoot accurately (can’t beat the ergonomics of the Hi-Power; best 9mm pistol design ever in my opinion). I actually like the sights and the trigger is fine by me. Should be a keeper in any case, if only for a range gun. Won’t carry as a defensive weapon unless I can have a wee bit more confidence in its reliability, though.
@307living3
@307living3 2 года назад
Damn have a Charles daily hi power and have thousands of rounds thru it with only 1 failure in the first magazine thousands of rounds later never had another
@randallscott-key802
@randallscott-key802 Месяц назад
Eons ago I acquired an FM Argentine version of the Hi-Power. It was a WONDERFUL pistol that shot everything fed to it! It was light, slim, compact, and fully reliable! The Hi-Power design is the "secret sauce" so to speak. The Hi-Power design is about as close to perfect as any handgun can be. The CZ series is quite similar but the DA trigger system completely changes the characteristics of the pistol. I know it's popular to want a DA/SA trigger system, but the bottom line is a SA only system is ideal and let's be honest, semiautomatic pistols are meant for OFFENSIVE use, which means one has ample opportunity to have a round chambered, safety applied.
@Joe5561000
@Joe5561000 2 года назад
I personally really like the fact that Girsan and EAA are planning on bringing to market a HI-Power (P35) that is "modernized" with a beaver tail frame, accessory rail, and other cool features. I'm not sure if it's going to have an optic cut, but it should. I don't understand why it's taken this long. We modernized and upgraded the 1911 and the CZ-75 a long time ago. Why not do the same to the Hi-Power? You know what would be really cool? A High Powered, Hi-Power in 10MM LOL
@eclipsegst9419
@eclipsegst9419 Год назад
Yet you see a lot of people howling over FN giving it a bunch of improvements. I don't get it. Like you said, the 1911 has seen tons of changes over the years and is made by about every handgun maker across the globe, but nobody complains about that... I'm all for it, i just can't afford FN pricing!
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 Год назад
It could be done, but the grip length front to rear would be longer. Browning at one time produced a Hi Power in 40 Smith. Down side was it only held 10+1. No extended capacity mags were available, at least from FN/Browning.
@johnschiffermuller4930
@johnschiffermuller4930 Год назад
I removed the magazine disconnect and repainted the front sight right off. The gun runs great, unlike my more expensive Springfield SA-35 which is headed back to the factory for the second time for the same problem, a trigger that gets really stiff, then locks after just a couple of shots. Have to engage and then disengage the safety to release it. I really want one of the short slide models, but I understand the short slide model is finicky on ammo. And FN's new "hipower" isn't a hipower at all except for the exterior profile.
@josemiraya3930
@josemiraya3930 Год назад
I got the Ops on GunBroker. Best pistol ever. Doesn't have magazine disconnect, has a flat (not curved) very light trigger, extra long beaverton, bright sights. Very rapid trigger, almost seems like you're shooting on automatic.
@r.parker8299
@r.parker8299 2 года назад
Girsan and Canik are really producing some quality, affordable firearms. Great review as always 💯🙌👏👍🤛. You and Mrs Outlaw have a wonderful Easter Weekend 🙏🛐✝️🕊️🐰🗽🦅🇺🇸
@Zarkoth7
@Zarkoth7 2 года назад
Sar USA too.
@jonrarmey1220
@jonrarmey1220 2 года назад
@@Zarkoth7 Yep, Also Tisas!
@wigon
@wigon 2 года назад
I hope Rock Island starts making these as well. I'm a big fan of Rock Island Armory 1911's and revolvers. Inexpensive and crude parkerized finish, but super reliable and accurate. My RIA 1911A1 GI model is my absolute favorite pistol that I own. Mine is insanely accurate, has great fit and finish, is superbly reliable, and just feels soooo great in the hand. If they got the tooling for a Hi-Power, I'm sure they absolutely rock it. But until then, these Girsan Hi-Power (and M9 clone) pistols are high on my list (no pun intended) to purchase as they really do seem to be quality firearms. Now if only the dozens of cheap Turkish shotgun manufacturers would make shotguns to the same standards. :P
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 2 года назад
Great video! Love my Browning Hi Power. Practical. Bought in the mid 90's & still like new after 1000s of rounds. 100% reliable, and since I tossed the mag safety, had the trigger/hammer replaced by Cylinder and Slide consistently capable of 1 1/2'' groups at 25 yards. The gun I teach people to shoot with. Everyone that has shot it wanted to buy it. Now I need a Girsan to determine if I can make it/modify it to perform as well as my Browning
@dlife7427
@dlife7427 2 года назад
I have a Practical as well and love it. Let me save you some money, don't get the Girsan. Just trust me, pay the extra money for another Browning.
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 2 года назад
@@dlife7427 I see. I do love my BHP Practical. What problems have you found with the Girsan? Accuracy? Reliability? other?
@dlife7427
@dlife7427 2 года назад
@@frankbrowning328 Slide to Frame fit, and barrel fit. Most but not ALL hi powers seem to have a loose fit when in battery ( hammer cocked), but the Girsan developed it very quickly. These are minor things and most ppl probably wouldn't even care or notice. It goes bang and is fairly accurate. I just think if you already have the Practical your expectations might not be met with the Girsan.
@dlife7427
@dlife7427 2 года назад
@@frankbrowning328 o and 1 inch groups at 25 yards, ya no the Girsan most likely won't do that. Also with the Practical you have that barrel extension nub. The Girsan does not have that. I've heard people say that doesn't effect accuracy, well I sure believe it does. How can it not?
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 2 года назад
@@dlife7427 I see. The metal may be a little soft or the tolerances too loose causing the fit of the parts to distort after firing a limited amount of ammo. Not a good sign as when this happens it tends to continue worsen. This would also explain accuracy issues. I agree. For those of us that already have a BHP the Girsan may be disappointing. Accuracy is exceptional on my BHP Practical. It's helped by a Cylinder and Slide brand matching hammer and sear that gives a very crisp 3 1/2lb trigger. With cheap 115 gr blasting ammo it will shoot 3'' groups at 25 yards. With 124 gr high quality ammo it will shoot 1 1/2'' groups at 25 yards.
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 Год назад
I love the way a Hi Power feels in my hand. It feels like the grip of an old friend.
@leerethamel3204
@leerethamel3204 2 года назад
Just bought a Winchester model 74 and a sign p250 compact from Mr Guns, he is a great shop to deal with
@Enraged-Gecko
@Enraged-Gecko 2 года назад
I’d take the Girsan Hi-Power over the Springfield Armory. Springfield’s 1911s and M1As are imported as parts from Imbel, which is a Brazilian company. The XDs, Hellcats and Hellions are Imported HS Produkt firearms, which are Croatian. Their AR-15s are produced under license… they really don’t make anything domestically, they either have firearms imported pre-assembled or they assemble firearms from parts, some of which are substituted for 922R compliance.
@chrisbonnett6783
@chrisbonnett6783 Месяц назад
Just got one. Like it. Will be my new house gun. Had the mag safety removed at purchase. Trigger loses about a pound and is nice. Also replaced the standard grips. Thought they felt a bit bulky and not aggressive enough. I put 500 through it this morning. Worked great. No fails. I shot it beside my M&P shield (CCW). Big difference in comfort. The trigger got uncomfortably hot halfway so I started sitting it under a fan while I reloaded my only mag LOL. Found it shooting a bit low, but consistent, using the sights. Sights do suck, but I point-shoot so no worries. Mags are $40 from EAA website. I'll get 4 for the bed safe. So impressed I'll probably get their 1911 clone, just because I don't have a 1911 - yet.
@roberthicks2364
@roberthicks2364 11 месяцев назад
The first thing I did with my FN Browning Hi Power back in the day was to disable the mag disconnect. It lowered the trigger pull and made the gun much better.
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 2 года назад
I guess the reason it sells so inexpensive is that they left out the recoil on this pistol as seen at 2:06.
@PC-vq5ud
@PC-vq5ud 2 года назад
Go Hi-Power!! Thanks for the review Honest!
@redeye8526
@redeye8526 2 года назад
I have a 1990 IMI Jericho 941. Has the same sloped front sight but blacked out and a long dead tritium rear dot sight. I put some orange testors paint on the front slope and it actually is a decent sight picture like that. Thats a cheap fix so you can have contrast on white targets
@johnboyd8474
@johnboyd8474 2 года назад
I recently brought the Girsan and like it a lot! Looked at the New FN Hi Power it is different from the original. Interesting though the one I looked at the fit wasn’t as good as my original 1980 Belgian made Hi power.
@michaelpebley4049
@michaelpebley4049 Год назад
Chris , You are my go to guy when it comes time for a new firearm but I’ve got a bone to pick with you . I ran out and grabbed the MC P35 and it’s got the trigger takes 2 men and a small boy to operate? Ran 4 mags through it and sold it for 400.00.. I was pumped watching your review about the working man’s John Browning..Peace Brother and keep up the great work. Thanks Pops
@deussolinvictus
@deussolinvictus Год назад
$399 at CDNN this weekend.
@funkla65
@funkla65 2 года назад
Looks like good competition for the Springfield product. FN's new High Power is a rather different gun (although I'm definitely itching to try one of those). Controls on this look comparable to later Browning Hi Powers, and definitely upgraded over my FEG Hi Power clone. Deleting the mag safety will get rid of much of the crunch in the trigger. Black out the rear, neon pink the front, and rock on!
@AlexN2022
@AlexN2022 2 года назад
Unfortunately, any functioning gun looks like a good competition for the Springfield's SA35. A Hi Point is a good competition to SA35. That's not a particularly high bar to jump.
@georgewhitworth9742
@georgewhitworth9742 2 года назад
@@AlexN2022 What do you mean by that? Seems like most shooters I've seen with them have good things to say.
@justinedse3314
@justinedse3314 Год назад
@@AlexN2022 Why? What's going on with the SA 35?
@AlexN2022
@AlexN2022 Год назад
@@justinedse3314 many - as in very many - of the SA35 fail to extract. It isn't an easy fix. Just changing extractors to C&S or BHP III or whatever doesn't reliably fix the situation. It seems that Springfield frilled the extractor pin hole a hair too much forward in the slide. I sent mine to Springfield, they *seem* to have fixed it, but they, too, just replaced the extractor. At least that's what they said.
@bigdatapimp
@bigdatapimp Год назад
Absolutely love the hi-power. Even with the crappy old tiny blade front sight😂 crisp crazy light trigger, shoots lazer straight, and runs like a sewing machine.
@daveoneill9246
@daveoneill9246 2 года назад
I carried a BHP overseas in the 70s and 80s. Loved it. Always reliable
@aliox1941
@aliox1941 2 года назад
Have completely enjoyed these videos and appreciate them so much! I have been asking for months now for a comparison video of Honest Outlaws CZ Accushadow and the newer CZ Shadow 2 Orange. The Accushadow is the CZ Custom Shops (in the USA) customized edition and the Orange is CZ's factory customized edition. There are differences and would just find a breakdown comparison by the Outlaw so helpful in deciding which way to go! PLEASE, PLEASE, can you finally do that comparison???? A number of my friends are so interested in this comparison so I have to think others would find it extremely helpful as well.
@Highplains45
@Highplains45 2 года назад
Thanks for reviewing this pistol.
@Dietzeeeee
@Dietzeeeee Год назад
You mention aluminum frame but all the language on this I have seen claims it is a steel frame. Can you magnet test the trigger guard and confirm if it is steel or aluminum. Thanks for the review.
@brianedgett2134
@brianedgett2134 2 года назад
I like that it's on the post 62 generation. Will be looking to put one in the safe asap.
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 2 года назад
I wish someone would bring the Tisas version back.
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 5 месяцев назад
Mine runs great for sure. I wanted a "shooter" or "service" grade Hi Power, but I just couldn't justify the price for a new FN or even a decent surplus one. This one fits the bill very nice for me. It eats any 9mm I can run through it, shoots as well as I can, and has excellent build quality. I swapped out the grips for some Cocobolo ones and its a not a bad looking gat to boot. Is it the best choice if you are looking to be taticool? maybe not. But if you want a excellent example of what a older stock service grade Hi Power was 40 years ago- you cant beat this one
@himemjam
@himemjam 2 года назад
Great review as usual! You're one of the best reviewers in this space on RU-vid. You've greatly informed my thinking on a range of gun-related issues. Thank you and Mrs. Outlaw! One more thing, Jamaican Beer? Red Stripe. Just Sayin'.
@grumpyoldretiredcop8382
@grumpyoldretiredcop8382 3 месяца назад
Mine runs fine with hardball. Being a range toy, I haven't tested it with JHP. There were only two things I didn't like about it; the grips and the mushy safety detent. Grips were fixed with a set of Pachmayrs (some stretching required for good fit) and the safety with a safety plunger spring from Cylinder & Slide (the C&S safety plunger won't fit into the Girsan safety unless you're willing to do a bit of machine work). I painted the front sight stripe with a yellow paint pen and that's been good enough as I prefer 3-dot sights and the MC P35 sight picture is pretty close, albeit with square dots. Good review!
@stevenmichael558
@stevenmichael558 2 года назад
I USED TO HAVE AN FN P35 FROM WWII . IT HAD THE LUFTWAFFE EAGLE ON THE TOP OF THE GRIPS ON THE FRAME MY UNC GOT IT OFF A GERMAN PILOT WHEN HE WAS IN FRANCE .
@GolfRemoEchoGolf2
@GolfRemoEchoGolf2 2 года назад
Cylinder and slide use to do a tripple action package w removal of the mag disconnect , this was several years ago though
@PNWhashmits
@PNWhashmits 2 года назад
Was on the fence about one of these and the SDS 1911 series. With the mag ban likely to go through on July 1 in WA, I’m gonna snag one of these ASAP.
@dylanavila6318
@dylanavila6318 Год назад
So glad I found this video I believe my local gun shop has this model girsan and for $560 I believe is a steal gans try and buy it next time I get the chance if it's still there thanx for the help with the video review. Keep doing what you do man love your content
@simongeorge2505
@simongeorge2505 2 года назад
I was issued a GP35 High Power but I brought a CZ75, it was simply more accurate and eat every thing. The GP35 was fine with ball but little else.
@AMXSShirt
@AMXSShirt 7 месяцев назад
SDS / MAC has one now labeled as Inglis. Obviously Turkish made. I’m thinking very close to the Girsan and even Springfield. I’m just glad companies are keeping this Classic relevant.
@RM-dn1mi
@RM-dn1mi Год назад
Bought the Match version of this a couple of months ago...love it.
@johnjinglehimmerschmitt9802
@johnjinglehimmerschmitt9802 2 года назад
just ordered mine, now I'm stalking every video I can find to watch
@parabellum8839
@parabellum8839 2 года назад
If Mec-Gar would start making 20 round hipower mags again, we'd be in really good shape
@damondiehl5637
@damondiehl5637 2 года назад
I have a Browning Hi-Power from 1989 and I just bought a Girsan MC P35. The safety on the Girsan is a vast improvement, but I would still prefer a 1911 style safety. I contacted BH Springs Solution to see if they offer such a thing, but no response. I have a few no-name magazines and they do not feed into the gun quite as well as the Mec-Gar one that came with it does. I haven't compared them against each other to see exactly what the difference is, just practiced dropping mags and inserting new ones. So spend a little extra and get the MG-BRMP-15 mags. Other than that, I wish they hadn't been so faithful to the original with the mag safety.
@damondiehl5637
@damondiehl5637 Год назад
Sights are cut for Browning MkIII. Pushed right out, MEPRO replacements from Brownells pushed right back in.
@shanequigley7552
@shanequigley7552 2 года назад
Looks 👍, beautiful design ,the man was a genius
@TheJimminiShow
@TheJimminiShow 2 года назад
Springfields hi power does not have the Disconnect! I just filmed one. Fixes the biggest gripe I have for it
@mausercal65
@mausercal65 2 года назад
I have a pair of Girsan 92 clones and love them . As soon as my local dealer get one I’m getting at least one of these .
@woodsghost9088
@woodsghost9088 Год назад
I agree the rear is a nutty choice. Can you black out the white stripes with a black sharpie? I've done that before with guns I wanted to fix the sight picture.
@easyfiveOsink
@easyfiveOsink Год назад
Either Girsan or EAA listened to you about the sites. I just purchased a MC P35 last week and it didn't have the white painted long ramp. Mine came with the front site blade more like the one offered by Springfield Armory and the rear sight is Novak style for an improved three dot system.
@believe722
@believe722 2 года назад
Very cool! It would be nice to have a Browning high power that is relatively close to the original for half the money!
@DynoBash
@DynoBash 2 года назад
Picking one up sometime this week cant wait!
@DEValentine
@DEValentine 2 года назад
Great video. Outlaw, please review the Girsan MC9. Very curious to see if this super-cheap polymer striker-fired is as good as many are saying.
@Deucefan1976
@Deucefan1976 Год назад
Idk if you had the same problem I did, but the second time I took it to the range I noticed that the front sight was wandering back and forth, I put a little loctite on it and solved all my problems
@careystuart
@careystuart 2 года назад
As usual , a great review. I think I'm gonna grab one! Thanx , Chris.
@BlacktailShadow
@BlacktailShadow 2 года назад
I like that there's a good, budget Hi-power clone being produced. The sights are odd by today's standards, but a true reproduction of at least the Mark 3 Hi-powers produced by FN. Im not familiar with previous generations' sights. I think they were smaller and all black. This Girsan appears most like a mark 3 with it's external extractor, and ambi safety, however the Mark 3 usually didn't have the ring hammer or aluminum frame. The magazine disconnect was present on the original as requested by the French military. It is easily removed and not only aids in the magazine dropping free but somewhat improves trigger feel. It appears the Browning Hi-Power is finally starting to be regarded by mainstream USA after almost a hundred years of obscurity here.
@richardjohnson4238
@richardjohnson4238 2 года назад
Got one of these myself. Like it a lot. Good video..Oh...orange nail polish will take care of the white sights.
@mikethomas4598
@mikethomas4598 2 года назад
My 90s vintage H-P practical model has the same sights and I sharped the rear sight and it helped a lot.
@westtexas3041
@westtexas3041 2 года назад
Great video Outlaw.
@davidjakiela9553
@davidjakiela9553 Год назад
If your old school and love and carry a 1911 the hi power is a great alternative. Both guns operated the same. In a world where up is fire and down is safe both the 1911 and hi power are the opposite. This is very important. Both are single action auto's also.
@murphy4yt
@murphy4yt 3 месяца назад
That’s the way God and John Browning intended it to be.
@james-im1sj
@james-im1sj 2 года назад
Love shooting the hi power
@stever8776
@stever8776 Год назад
The Hi-Power was the Britush SAS's handgun for years. They carried it with 12 rounds in the magazine. See the 1980 Iranian Embassu hostages rescue by the SAS! The FBI HRT carried Novak Custom Browning Hi-Powers. Novak put a beaver tail on them and host of other custom work. Cylinder & Slide also make custom Hi-Powers and they will install a beaver tail for ~$400. I bought a Tisas Turkish Hi-Power. I removed the Magazine safery on mine. Plus installed a Cylinder & Slide combart thumb safety and trugger. With the C&S thumb safety the ergonomics are more like a 1911. You have a good place to rest your thumb. I also added VZ gripes. Now this Hi-Power is good to go. The trigter is now crisp. Of course Novak customs are the best Hi-Powers ever made. They used Browning .40 S&W guns as they were much stronger than the 9mm versions to handle the increased power if the .40 S&W. Then they converted them to 9mm. Unfortunately Novak's are no longer making custom guns. Custom Hi-Powers sell for up to $7k. But Cylinder & Slide still does excellent work on Hi-Powers!! And they are superb!! Cheers!
@stevenbobbybills
@stevenbobbybills 2 года назад
Since you mentioned that the Hi-Power design wasn't finished by Browning, I would like to point out that it was finished by Saive, as in, the guy behind the FN FAL.
@tidefanyankee2428
@tidefanyankee2428 2 года назад
The majority of the design was by John Moses Browning......a firearms GENIUS.
@stevenbobbybills
@stevenbobbybills 2 года назад
@@tidefanyankee2428 the video already said that, yes. I was just pointing out who finished it. Interestingly enough, parts of it were reworked by Saive, but with principles set by Browning in the first place. Patents for the M1911 expired after Browning's death, so FN were able to use mechanisms from Browning's older design that he wouldn't have been able to use had he finished it in his own lifetime.
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 2 года назад
*Anyone know if Girsan is claiming the barrel is Stainless? It seems chrome plated to me, bought one yesterday and am already making plans to replace it. The booklet does not say. 1. great shooter, accurate 2. solid construction. 3. not one ounce of difference between this and high end models. 4. recommend it to anyone wanting this classic at a budget. Turkey has been making guns for centuries, they got this one RIGHT! ///$Thank you for suggesting to donate at local homeless shelters, been there and donations can make life easier in SO MANY ways for people getting back on their feet. The FOOD BANKS need $$$ and donations of dry and canned goods too.$/// Big Love!!
@SquireSCA
@SquireSCA 2 года назад
Taking out the mag disconnect does improve the trigger pull significantly.
@caseymccormack2000
@caseymccormack2000 2 года назад
Have you reviewed the CZ SP-01 Tactical yet? Great shooting as always.
@mitchelperkins6723
@mitchelperkins6723 Год назад
Going to a fun show tomorrow. Hope to find one there. My best friend has an original HP. Freaking awesome pistol. Would love to have Novak Low profile sights installed. I understand Novak does this conversion. It does require welding the OEM dovetail and re-machining. Gonna have to check with them if I aquire one.
@codyjames1952
@codyjames1952 2 года назад
Got 2 Browning Hi Power #1 a Mark 1 Inglis Canada in 9.MM #2 a Mark 3 in 40.S&W bin my carry gun , i goy it in 1993 I LOVE IT but i'm looking at the Girsan MC P35 thank you for the video , i started shooting 1911A1 in1978 shooting Hi Power in 1985
@PatriotPaulUSA
@PatriotPaulUSA 2 года назад
Nice review and talk about the 2 other options out there as always! The new redesigned Hi power by FN is a whole new animal and 1100.00 street price. The Girsan looks like the best value for the average guy and close to the original for about $500.00. I cant wait to see it compared to an original and the new design. The Springfield isn't an option for me as I am not a fan of them and its pretty close to the original I believe. I would black that rear and orange the front sight and remove that disconnect on day 1 if I got one. Thanks Chris! Keep more of these coming !
@eclipsegst9419
@eclipsegst9419 Год назад
Yea the new FN is changed enough it ought to be an "A2" or something like that. Great update, bad price. The Girsan looks great for the price, hope to pick one up soon.
@556suppressor
@556suppressor Год назад
I wanted a SA-35 but they are not available at a reasonable cost. I ended up getting a new CZ 75B Omega for $549. I am watching your channel more this year.
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