I've had several good experiences from Tisas so far. I think it's an artifact of the 1911 market being so heavily flooded, that in order to get any sort of attention they have to make a good product at a solid price.
How does this compare to some of the other Tisas 1911s? Is this just one of their regular run of the mill 1911s with a tan paint job for an extra $100?
The entire gun market is flooded. But not many companies offer budget m1911s. Ria and tisas are the top 2 for a reason. Even if they produced on American soil they would still be those prices
My son was fascinated by the 1911 so I bought him a Tisas .45 in black. Broke it in for him with 250 rounds and a couple cleanings and I was impressed! I immediately purchased myself a WWII clone TISAS. I was a USMC MP from 1985-1989 that fielded those WWII .45’s until the Beretta took over. These TISAS .45’s are solid handguns. I think I’ll pick one of these up!!
I used the beretta as an MP … glad they upgraded .. the 1911 higher capacity is an amazing product … I don’t like having single stack … the grip of a double stack mag feels much better & it’s nice insurance having a few more rounds
Wish my dad bought me a m1911. Lol he did buy me a single shot shotgun. I did recently buy my first handgun earlier this year at the Age of 22. I bought the RIA m1911 a1 gi Midsize in .45 auto. The tisas was the other brand I was looking at however when I went into the store and saw the ria I fell in love and felt it calling to me. Here's to many years of your boy with his m1911. I know I don't ever plan on selling mine
@@russiachinanorthkoreastatetvthat's where I'm opposite I don't like double stack. But that's why we have single stacks and double stacks of m1911s, Glocks, sigs, FNs, walters. All brands you know. I also don't like 9mm don't Hate it I just prefer how 45 acp feels and shoots
@@russiachinanorthkoreastatetv I was a Marine Corps MP from 1985-1989. I carried the .45 and IIRC the Beretta was adopted just as I was leaving active duty. I drove old jeeps when in Korea and Okinawa, but transitioned to the Humvee when I returned stateside to Pendleton.
No complaints with the Tisas 1911’s from my end. Picked up the US Army WWII GI clone. Great quality for the money and absolutely no fear of jeopardizing collector values that’ll likely never inflate (I assume).
Getting a Tisas .45 Tanker today. Great quality for the price. My second pistol was a Mk IV Series 70. Always liked a 1911 and for the price Tisas can't be beat. Good overview of the Raider
Yeah thats the same reaction I had when the Girsan P35 Hi-Power clone came out. Its a really nice pistol for half the cost of the current reproductions.
This gun is made in Turkey and I have some reservations about buying it. While I don’t have a problem with the Turkish people themselves, I do have a problem with their leadership and government. Turkey is supposed to be a NATO member and US ally but they have some very strange attitudes when it comes to the US, utilization of their war materials and territory in support of NATO’s causes, and it seems like they’re favoring Russia in certain things. There’s even some speculation that Turkey might actually leave NATO. I don’t want to spend money with nations that are unfriendly to the US. Saudi Arabia is a perfect example. The US gave Saudi Arabia so much in military aid (fighter jets, weapons systems, joint training, money), yet they’re conspiring with Russia and China right now to build a new currency to replace the Petrodollar, which would ruin the American economy. My point is this, stop trading with foreign companies and countries that obviously hate the US. You’d only be enriching our enemies. As much as I don’t like Springfield Armory, I’d buy one of their 1911’s before I buy a Tisas.
I inherited my grandfathers 1944 production US Army 1911a1 that was also carried by my father in Vietnam. Needless to say that while I love shooting that pistol, it is becoming too valuable to be a carry much less a regular shooter. I picked up a TISAS WWII clone and it’s great. Fun to shoot, it’s virtually identical to the actual Colt, and seems very well built. I’m totally happy with my purchase.
I purchased a Tisas 5" stainless steel model a year ago. Currently at about the 400 round count. I performed my own, correctly executed trigger work, at 4 pounds. Currently, I have five Mec-Gar 8 round magazines, flawless. The quality, fitment, accuracy, and function of this pistol have been flawless.
The relationship with TISAS started in 2010 when Interstate Arms out of Billerica, Mass contracted TISAS to built the Regent. It was difficult early on to get the dealers through out the US to purchase the Regent so the right's were sold. I told the owner he was making a really bad mistake, but it happened and here we are now...
Mac, I bought my Tisas last year. Mine is the Duty model. It costs almost half as much as my Springfield Garrison. I think it's a tremendous amount of VALUE for little money. I still love my Springfield pistols!
I’d love to know why the Marines were even interested in the Colt. There’s plenty of guns that are cheaper and more reliable and basically just better in every way. Whoever decided to order the M45a1 was an idiot
@@usnchief1339 literally nobody uses the 1911 anymore. Its literally only glock and sig. The 1911 is outdated and has no place on the modern battlefield.
@@DUTYGRADE I don't know about the battlefield but I don't knock anyone who uses the 1911 for self-defense. It is still very viable handgun. To each his own. I don't consider myself a fudd, if you don't want a 1911 cool. But it's still a great little gun.
I just got a Tisas 1911 A1, clone. It looks just like the original...which I have. The Tisas clone, didn't parkarize the gun, instead they used Cerakote, probably to keep cost down. But it shoots well. I got it for $380 out the door. My brother like it so much, he got one. And ordered 4 more for his FFL store.
I have the EAA Girsan fullsize 1911. I got the dual-tone black/silver coloring. Quality made and b e a utiful! I've found mine to be highly accurate, I noticed right out of the gate at the range, too. Best of all, I was under $500 last year. You'll enjoy one. Just have your local shop order one for you.
I have one of the cheaper tisas m1911a1 service model handguns and I have to say I'm IN LOVE with it. I'm very happy with what handguns come out of tisas and really like how tisas is filling the market with cheap, quality 1911s for the romance of the 1911.
I remember the first time I fired a WW2 production Colt .45. Ergonomic, accurate, pleasant to shoot. They really took craftsmanship seriously back then, even as they were frantically making guns as fast as possible. Same with the M1 carbine I tried.
I'm so glad you got around to reviewing this because I've been eyeing it up for a bit now. I couldn't believe the prices of the of the real ones so it's good to know these are great - not only for the price, but overall.
My Tisas m45 carry won’t cycle in any of my higher end 1911 mags and a half dozen different types of ammo. The grip safety is catching on something in the grip. It’s total trash.
I think it was The Honest Outlaw that commended that guns at the cheaper end of the market can be characterised by patchy QC . Is what the two comments above illustrate ?
The Girsan 1911's are decent too. I'm pretty sure those and the Tisas are made on the same line. I like the optics ready models from Girsan, I have their MC1911 with a red dot on it chambered in 9MM. Pretty cool for the price point.
I have a Tisas 45 Carry and a fullsize. A buddy has this same 45. They are VERY well made. Reliable, Accurate. I am deeply impressed with them. I used to be Colt or nothing (well, the Ruger SR 1911's are awesome too), but SDS/Tisas hit a home run with their 1911's.
@@peterreily1490 No, it only needs a simple grip safety adjustment. Only takes a few minutes. Also check the sear spring. Often they come bent and cause avery heavy trigger pull. KnifeMaker
It looks like Raider uses those nicer magazines. Colt has never updated their 1911 mags with the competition. Anyway, very cool that you have that rare Colt M45 with the USMC marking. I’m a bit jealous.
Bull! Colt hasn't made their own mags for ages. The past few decades they've outsourced mags from Metalform and Checkmate. They will have an M or C respectively stamped on the upper righthand corner of the baseplate. They have modern feed lips for HP and SWC bullets.
*I just bought one!!! My biggest problem is that you can't put a fully loaded mag into it. Other than that, I love it so far especially that FDE finish, grips, rail, etc. Also surprised to learn that TISAS has been in business for 30 years!! 1993-2023!!*
We’ve received numerous Tisas pistols in our shop and overall the fit and finish is very good. I’ve considered buying one of their HiPower clones due to the low cost. But you are absolutely correct about the Turkish shotguns. Absolute trash. We’ve had nothing but problems with them.
It depends. My CZ Bobwhite is made in Turkey and is a wonderful shotgun for the price. Functions perfectly, excellent fit and finish. Very hard to beat for a side by side at $700 out the door. I can't speak to the Turkish semi autos because I only have 1970's Model 1100s.
Got a tisas "tanker" model... basically a commander size 45. Bought to build into a clone of my colt lightweight commander so I could blast away and not wreck my expensive vintage colt. So far after 400 or so rounds it's been perfect and actually a great gun. Highly recommend if you want a cheap but good gun for carry or range fun
Bought a Raider this morning for a truck gun. Very impressed by the fit and finish. No overbite kr underwater in the slide to frame fit. No extra material in the extractor. Perfectly flush. No movement in the barrel or sloppy bushing fit. Gave it a complete strip down, clean, oil, and lube. Reassembled. Swapped out the recoil spring for an extra power Wilson 17 pound flat wire spring, replaced the long trigger with a short trigger, replaced the grips with all black rubber grips, and replaced the grip screws with stainless steel hex screws. Fits my Streamlight weapon light and all my 1911 railed holsters. Fits all my 1911 Wilson Combat magazines. Double checked the trigger with my trigger scale after a thorough clean and lube. 4.5 pounds. Very acceptable with very little creep that is not even noticeable. The hammer felt a little gritty when I git it out of the box, but disassembled the main spring housing, greased the tunnel a bit, and reassembled. No grit anymore. The grips are VZ G10 so no cheap replacements. 2 magazines made by MecGar. Not quite like Wilson's but perfectly usable. So no off brand junk. I haven't shot it yet but I am fully confident it will not fail.
To put the 1911 back together, pull the unspung slide all the way to the rear and the toggle will line up, then move slide, insert take down lever and pull slide forward to complete assembly. Geoff Who was a US Army Small Arms Repairman 1972.
Good review! I have a Tisas "Duty" in .45ACP, which, except for the finish color and lack of the accessory rail on the dustcover, is pretty much the same pistol. Love mine. I did replace the plunger tube spring because my safety was very mushy. As I carry cocked and locked, a safety with a propensity to come out of the safe position is unacceptable. I purchased a new plunger tube spring from Wolff Gunsprings, and when I removed the stock spring it appeared to be about two coils shorter than the Wolff spring. By the way, I picked up a little trick that I saw on a Larry Vickers video to avoid the "dummy scratch" on reassembly. He takes a thin pointy object (he used a BIC-type ballpoint pen) to reach in through the ejector port to push the slide stop detent plunger into the plunger tube to easily insert the slibe stop. I tried it and it worked great! I actually took a short piece of wooden dowel, sharpened it a pencil sharpener then slightly rounded the point, and now I keep it in my pistol cleaning kit.
I recently bought a Metro Arms American Classic .45, lightly used for $325.00. Made in the Philippines. Surprisingly accurate and well-made 1911, tighter and with more features than a lot of Colts I've owned at over twice the price. Unbelievably good trigger pull. There are a lot of good 1911 clones out there.
I remember when the Remington R1's came out(I think they were called?) They had an were selling for/had an MSRP of like $1100. Very soon after you could get them for under $500. And it's my understanding that they were pretty good guns, especially for the price. Not something I'd buy(maybe if I could get a $1200 Springfield for that price...), but still a good deal, assuming they did in fact run well.
The only weakness is the takedown pin its a MIM part so he careful and dont tap it if its tight. Ive has several break. But youre right very tight fitting solid 1911 frim Metro Arms
I still miss my Charles Daily 1911-A1 I got as the first gun I ever bought over 20 years ago... shot so well and never malfunctioned... I let a buddy borrow it before COVID and ended up having a falling out... well my loss is his gain...
Very nice review. I picked up a Tisas Model 1911A1 US ARMY in 9x19mm on Friday. Except for the caliber and markings it could be a new production model of the very worn WW2 production M1911A1s that I carried for 16 years on active duty in the Army before the government betrayed* us with the Beretta M9A1. The only difference I found internally is the ramped barrel. The magazines are MecGar and are, of course, top quality. Mine came with two sets of grip panels: one set being nicely figured walnut "double diamond," and the other being plain brown plastic fully checkered military style. The gun is more accurate than I am with the military sights, but I'm not anticipating changing them. I may paint the front sight with Neon Pop Traffic Cone fingernail polish from Salon Perfect just to help out my old eyes. (I use this same product on my older revolvers with fixed sights for the same reason.) *(The Beretta wasn't a "bad" gun; it was just bigger than was needed for the caliber. The reasons we were given included "The 9x19mm is easier for females to shoot." I never saw a female soldier shoot the M9A1 without hand-cocking the hammer in order to reach the trigger. To be fair, I often saw male soldiers doing the same thing.)
Nobody is really out here paying 5k for a metal 1911 45. Even in the 1920’s, 30’s and 40’s those built during that time didn’t cost that to build so it’s basically unwarranted pricing. Tisas makes high quality 1911’s at Glock prices. With multiple makers producing 1911 style pistols using quality steel and CNC machines no one in my opinion can justify high prices on a milspec pattern.
Tisas, if you're listening. Colt/Springfield MEU-SOC M-45 clone with Pachmayr grips. All you need to do is make a down swept beaver-tail to fit a Commander-style hammer and you're in business. No one else does it for cheaper than $5k!
IMO a .45 ACP isn't needed anymore for self-defense purposes. Bullet design, technology, and effectiveness have improved drastically over the past 20 years whereas a 9mm can perform just as well as a .45. The mere idea that "bigger caliber" is better, well.... that's a farse!
I have Tisas's Beretta 84 clone (.380 ACP), which is made on licensed tools. It's got a great fit & finish, I've only shot about ~110rnds through it, so it might still be breaking in, as my only gripe with it, is that it's picky about feeding some ammo.
I had their BDA/84 clone and it was pretty nice. I always sand the feed ramp with wet 600 grit paper and polish it with Flitz and a Dremel polish tip. It REALLY helps feeding ammo.
@@stonefree1911 I've looked at the feed ramp, & it looks fine, it seems to be grumpy about feeding a lot of different ammo types. ...This past Monday I tested some Ammo Inc 100g FN cartridges that all fed w/out issue! Other than that ammo, it only fed Barnes 80g TAC-XP defensive ammo which is around a $1.25/rnd. My guess is that the brass' sharp (non-polished) cartridge lip is getting snagged on the feed ramp. As ammo that has the brass lip smoothed down (like the Barnes ammo) feed like butter!
I eat alot of ramen ,my budget is super tight. any colt is just a dream to me. the tisas may actually find itself in my care especially if I see it sub $500 on sale on PSA or Classic I don't like Turkish 12 gauges but I have Shot a few Turkish pistols that are what I would call excellent values Don't tell anyone but my first gun was a 8mm Turkish Mauser ,I got it when I was 13 for $60 it came with a bayonet and a bandolier of 75rounds on stripper clips I miss those days so much
A few years ago any video with Turkish guns would include a lot of comments related to the government of Turkey and how people were unwilling to support that government. The regime in Turkey hasn't improved during the last few years, so what happened with American gun buyers?
Lots of misinformation in this video. The issued Colts never cracked. Those cracked versions were essentially cerakoted colt "rail guns" the updates to beef up the frame and change the serrations were done in testing BEFORE they were issued. The cerakote is a whole other topic. All safeties and are fit by a gunsmith at colt. Its the only part that needs to be hand fit at the factory.
Great review. I purchased a Tisas 1911 A1 a few months back and it’s an outstanding gun, once broken it has worked flawlessly. I think it’s a great value for what you get.
Great timing on this video. I was wondering about these 1911's. I wasn't sure if they would be worth the buy. Now I'm thinking about adding a 1911 to the collection.
I like it. I sold all of my 1911's but they still have a special place in my heart. Some of these budget 1911 pistols are a very good alternative to the real deal.
So with mine I tried shooting Speer gold dot 200gr +p and with 8 round sig mags it fed flawlessly, but had issues with 10 rounders from both WC and McCormick. But I also feel the shape of the bullet might’ve had something to do with it as well so I wanna try some different hollow point loads with the 10 rounders. But the gun completely and reliably ate FMJ ball ammo no matter what magazine I used..
So with mine I tried shooting Speer gold dot 200gr +p and with 8 round sig mags it fed flawlessly, but had issues with 10 rounders from both WC and McCormick. But I also feel the shape of the bullet might’ve had something to do with it as well so I wanna try some different hollow point loads with the 10 rounders. But the gun completely and reliably ate FMJ ball ammo no matter what magazine I used..
@@shook0002 I agree, I just got a few days ago. And love it. And it only cost me $380 out the door. The A1 isn't parkarized, it's ceracoted. But doesn't matter to me. It looks like an original and shoots well. For the price you can't beat it.
Interesting info on the USMC marking. I own a couple of .22 training/target rifles stamped with the USMC marking. My favorite is a Remington 40X so marked - one of a reported thousand so made and marked.
The last quality 1911 Colt produced was the Series 70. The 1911 clones from the Philippines ATI are a superior product. I own seven 1911s the gun I use the most is a Norinco I used in CASS wild bunch shoots. I'm sure this pistol from Turkey will be a great gun. The 1911 is the best combat hand gun ever made in my view.
I have the M45A1 custom shop version with front strap checkering, it’s a very good shooting pistol with an excellent trigger for a series 80. It’s a step below my Wilson combat and nighthawk custom but not by much.
I picked up a Girsan mc1911 reserve (Turkish made if I remember correctly) chambered in 45 acp. Awesome gun. Dead on accurate. Very reliable. Only issue I ever had with it was the magazine it came with. Feed jams, failure to feed, and lock open. Switched to Wilson Combat mags and never had another problem since.
Funny, I just commented on your bad kimber 1911 video that you can't go wrong with a tisas and a tiny bit of gunsmithing. I bought a tisas .45 4¼" and a 9mm 4¼" and liked them so much I just bought another of the 9mm ones for myself. If a guy is willing to spend an hour of his life dropping some wilson combat parts into it and putting it back together, you've got an absolute excellent weapon for dirt dirt dirt cheap. 600 dollars or less for a damn decent range clunker
I have a Colt rail gun,I absolutely love that 1911.I even had Copper Custom cerakote it in OD green.I would give Tisas a try.Why not?It's about what I paid for my RIA Rock 1911,haven't had an issue with that one.
I’ve got the Tisas 1911 US Army and the Bantam, both in .45 ACP. I am very impressed by both and that’s not even factoring in their comparatively low prices. Fit, finish, reliability, and accuracy are incredible. I will be getting the Raider. Of note, I also have a 1911s by Colt, Springfield, and Kimber so this is not a case of Tisas being all that I know.
I’ve got the Tisas Duty, very nice pistol for the money, I own several different Turkish firearms, and they all have pretty decent quality for the price.
I have a Tisas 1911 45 Carry model. And I love it. I have well put over 2000rd through it and never a feed or ejection problem. Yes it is my everyday carry.
I bought a brand new Colt Gold Cup .45 probably 18 years ago. I was impressed with shooting it but the fit and finish was not there. There were burrs where the bushing goes in the slide. The bushing wouldn’t turn because of them. It scratched and dug in on the back side of the flat part of the bushing. I had to use a stone to get rid of them. That wasn’t so bad to deal with. The safety was and still is to some degree atrocious. The safety lever was bead blasted by Colt. The round head on the spring detent rubs on that bead blasting felt like a gravel parking lot. I stoned and polished it as best as you can get in there and still feels like crap. It had burrs on the slide rails too. I had to stone them off. Overall it is very disappointing for a high end pistol like that. I have bought 2 STIs since and yea I know those are different categories of pistols but I will never buy another Colt pistol. Besides, after having a double stack 1911 why would you want to go back. LOL
Not for me.... I'm sure Tisas makes a fine handgun and is on par with others in its price range. Personally speaking I just don't want my 1911 made outside the US. I've always felt like a 1911 made overseas is like an American flag made in China.... Yeah, it will work, but there's more to it than that. Just my personal peeve.... If you own a Tisas or RIA and love it, good for you.
I have had mixed experiences with Tisas. The first one was terrible, almost nothing worked right. Fast forward about five years and I purchased a Tisas Bantum. It is an excellent handgun at any price. I shoot it more often than my Colt, Dan Wesson and Springfield.
I have a Tisas 1911 a1 and a Girsan High Power 9mm and the fit, finish and function have been spot on. No hesitation buying hand gun from Turkey for me.
I carry a Tisas 1911-A1 tanker as an EDC. That thing lives up it it's namesake. I ran 500 rounds of mixed brass, aluminum, and steel cased ammo without cleaning it. At the 500 round mark, a few extra drops of CLP, ran another 50 before it got finiky. For defensive ammo, it likes federal premium 230gr Hydra-shoks.
I have a Zenith Turkish 1911 as well as a Tisas GI series 1911. Both are phenominal for me. The Zenith now has about 3K rounds through it since I bought it about a decade ago. Functions flawlessly for me. Wish they were still on the market but they aren't. I will say thogh with the Zenith, the main leaf spring was really messed up when I bought it. Was a simple and cheap replacement part and it has been perfect since. The Tisas I have is significantly newer. However, the tolerances on it are so tight there is literally no slop. I have only put a single box of 50 through it though. Don't have the time I used to have to go to the range all the time. Still for the 50 rounds it was an absolute pleasure to shoot. For comparison, here is my other 1911s that I have that I can compare them to. RIA 1911 tac ultra, Springfield prodigy, Sig Scorpion, and Remington 1911 R1. I don't own a colt 1911, but oh well. Love all the ones I have. The Turkish were both significantly cheaper and are just as good as anything else I own. Seriously the Tisas GI series for $300 was is so crazy for the price.
I would be sold if I was in a buying phase! Good video. If I didn't have my Kimber I would definitely get this Tisas. I own a SAR9 and it is a great shooting pistol. So the Turk pistol is fine with me.
Except for the rails,. the Tisas M45A1 looks like several of the models sold by Armscor for around five hundred dollars. I guess this could be made cheaper than the MSRP of 649 but they have to consider if it is worth the effort. Great video MAC!
I plan on picking up a Tisas WW2 so I don’t have to shoot my Remington Rand. From what I’ve seen everyone has been happy with them and I haven’t seen any bad reviews. I would be interested in the Raider as well, so thank you for telling us about it.
I actually have 2 1911’s one is a original Colt and I have a Rock Island made in the Philippines. To be honest I really don’t think there is much difference between the two. But my Rock Island for some reason doesn’t like to chamber the second round of hollow points from a magazine. Standard FMJ never a problem.
